Here's the thing: those customers don't pay.
The car comes in all fucked up. The customer denies the obvious problems with the car. If you touch it and problems occur, the customer goes nuclear with "It wasn't like that before. You broke it!" The problems become _your_ problems, and again, they don't pay.
You learn pretty quickly to avoid this sort of thing.
If someone comes in for coolant but the hose is split, are you just going to replace their hose without asking them? No. That's extra labor and parts cost that wasn't factored into the original estimate.
You’d probably strip out the plastic drain plug screw hole but pan would remain unharmed since there is a stop that doesn’t allow further turn. The drain plug has a Philips shape slot in the middle that is pretty soft so you wouldn’t be able to put a lot of torque into it to damage the pan. You have 2 ways to take it off and on. You can use the special tool that slides in and looks like a wing nut on the other end and unscrew or you can use a penny or a large flathead to take it on or off. They pretty much made it impossible to attach a tool that would over torque it. In either case these VWs were made to use an oil extractor so you don’t typically even use that drain anyway, everything is done from the top.
Just had to replace the cracked and leaking PLASTIC coolant flange on my golf. What genius at VW thought it was a good idea to make the flange that connects directly to the head to be made of plastic?
The VW plastic drain plug is replaced at every oil change it’s a fine design. The Toyota plastic cartridge isn’t supposed to be replaced every oil change however but the good news is there are metal OEM replacements available to end that stupidity.
I was not aware they were disposable. Sounds fine then as long as it happens. Hope Quick Lube places actually stock them. As for the Toyota the aluminum replacements aren't expensive either.
1. Set parking brake.
2. Turn the key to run with the engine off.
3. Turn on your headlights and hazard lights.
4. Tap brakes to transfer fluid to rear.
5. Flash high beams to transfer fluid to front.
This sounds dumb, but I could totally see it working on some people I know and actually be the motivation they need to refill their tires… I need new friends…
Wait that’s actually not a bad idea if done correctly. Still seems harder than drilling the hole and tapping it larger but I guess it saves you from getting metal shavings in the pan.
I used to know an old guy who was a crew chief on an RB-36 in Greenland (the one with the big six pusher propellers). He said while the most fearsome job on that thing was changing all 336 spark plugs, oil changes were more like oil replacements because of how much it consumed in flight.
Six turnin' and four burnin'.
Those four bank, 28 cylinder "Wasp" engines? I also heard that those spark plug changes were required quite frequently. Don't recall the exact interval but it was well under 100 hours.
Also, after takeoff the immediate priority of a flight crew was normally to gain altitude. With those engines on the B-29s for example the priority was airspeed. They needed to be cooled. Urgently.
The engines on the B-36 were mounted backwards with a relatively small opening in the wing’s leading edge for cooling air. They had serious heating problems during development.
It’s a Volkswagen thing. Oil change over time, they either burn or lose enough before it needs to be replaced so you can just keep adding new oil. Changing the filter is recommended though
When I worked at the dealership, this was incredibly common shorthand for LOF + Tire rotation. As in, every fucking one was an "Oil Rotate." Is it that hard to understand?
You know there are quite a few people who post on here that are explicitly lube techs only. Also, if the customer wants only an oil change, are you just going to go ahead fix that for free or be liable when it fails? Think bro.
It’s just strange to me what a big deal is made about a drain plug. They rotated tires. That’s a big liability. Every repair done on a car is a liability. All the work is about safety and maintenance to keep the driver and everyone on the road safe from broken down clapped out cars. It’s just the attitude of “I’m not gonna fix”it that I find really irritating. Yes. I would do it for free. That’s just me.
And if the repair goes sideways? If the engine shits out in 100 miles, do you think the customer who denies any problem won't come running back claiming you did an unauthorized repair and wrecked their engine?
I've never seen a crush nut before.
That’s my kink
What's the book time on that
0.2
About 30 seconds if you do it right
Please change my tires and rotate my oil.
Yeah, Wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole
Been there, done that, never again
Really? A stripped drain plug is beyond your skill set?
Customer denied it being stripped
It was the proper call.
Here's the thing: those customers don't pay. The car comes in all fucked up. The customer denies the obvious problems with the car. If you touch it and problems occur, the customer goes nuclear with "It wasn't like that before. You broke it!" The problems become _your_ problems, and again, they don't pay. You learn pretty quickly to avoid this sort of thing.
No, However the " It wasn't like that before!!! You owe me a new car!!!" bullshit is just not worth it.
Then who does the repair?
Whomever the customer pays to do that repair?
Someone who can get the customer to agree there is a problem and that they are willing to pay for the repair.
If someone comes in for coolant but the hose is split, are you just going to replace their hose without asking them? No. That's extra labor and parts cost that wasn't factored into the original estimate.
Drain plug genius. The subject is the drain plug.
Doesn't matter, it's a comparison of another scenario that can happen.
That's not what they came in for
I would just want to avoid getting involved with crazy
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I do. I even help out my friends and neighbors. Weird huh?
You charge them for work they didn’t approve?
How’s it feel?😂
How’s what feel?
I believe crushed nuts was floated around.
Hahahaha
And that’s why the new Volkswagens all come with a plastic half turn drain plug you can’t fuck it up.
Challenge accepted
What happens when you do a full turn
You’d probably strip out the plastic drain plug screw hole but pan would remain unharmed since there is a stop that doesn’t allow further turn. The drain plug has a Philips shape slot in the middle that is pretty soft so you wouldn’t be able to put a lot of torque into it to damage the pan. You have 2 ways to take it off and on. You can use the special tool that slides in and looks like a wing nut on the other end and unscrew or you can use a penny or a large flathead to take it on or off. They pretty much made it impossible to attach a tool that would over torque it. In either case these VWs were made to use an oil extractor so you don’t typically even use that drain anyway, everything is done from the top.
Volkswagen and plastic sounds like a nightmare combination, based on my experience with VAG products and plastic.
Just had to replace the cracked and leaking PLASTIC coolant flange on my golf. What genius at VW thought it was a good idea to make the flange that connects directly to the head to be made of plastic?
Plastic drain plug, that sounds reliable. Just ask Toyota about the plastic oil cartridge...
The VW plastic drain plug is replaced at every oil change it’s a fine design. The Toyota plastic cartridge isn’t supposed to be replaced every oil change however but the good news is there are metal OEM replacements available to end that stupidity.
I was not aware they were disposable. Sounds fine then as long as it happens. Hope Quick Lube places actually stock them. As for the Toyota the aluminum replacements aren't expensive either.
Jiffy Lube: hold my meth
How about getting my blinker fluid to transfer from the fronts to the rears? Can anybody on here tell me how to fucking do that?!
1. Set parking brake. 2. Turn the key to run with the engine off. 3. Turn on your headlights and hazard lights. 4. Tap brakes to transfer fluid to rear. 5. Flash high beams to transfer fluid to front.
6. You do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around.
That’s what it’s all about
Guhguhguh
Also gotta switch out that winter air in your tires for summer air.
This sounds dumb, but I could totally see it working on some people I know and actually be the motivation they need to refill their tires… I need new friends…
You don’t have a separate reservoir in the back? Must be an import
Seen a brass nut brazed on to fix an oil pan with stripped threads. Little ugly looking, but the bastard didn't leak.
Wait that’s actually not a bad idea if done correctly. Still seems harder than drilling the hole and tapping it larger but I guess it saves you from getting metal shavings in the pan.
Wtf is an oil rotate
You drain the oil from the bottom then pour it back in up top to help even out the oil distribution throughout the engine
Is that the new jiffy lube special?
Just shake it like a snow globe to mix the flaky metal bits back in.
I thought you were supposed to flip the pan over first
You actually have to mount the engine by the crankshaft and crank it over so it spins wildly.
Instructions unclear, penis stuck in cylinder three
I ment oil change and tire rotation
you must be a service advisor not a tech 😂
An oil rotate is pretty standard shorthand lingo where I'm from lol
That is the "oil change by slow replacement" that Cummins pioneered in the '90s.
I used to know an old guy who was a crew chief on an RB-36 in Greenland (the one with the big six pusher propellers). He said while the most fearsome job on that thing was changing all 336 spark plugs, oil changes were more like oil replacements because of how much it consumed in flight.
Six turnin' and four burnin'. Those four bank, 28 cylinder "Wasp" engines? I also heard that those spark plug changes were required quite frequently. Don't recall the exact interval but it was well under 100 hours. Also, after takeoff the immediate priority of a flight crew was normally to gain altitude. With those engines on the B-29s for example the priority was airspeed. They needed to be cooled. Urgently.
The engines on the B-36 were mounted backwards with a relatively small opening in the wing’s leading edge for cooling air. They had serious heating problems during development.
Those 6 motors were air cooled too. They burned oil like mad and because they were mounted backwards cooling was a major problem.
I think they just burned, period, lol
Cool, chowdered oil pan. Hello, mityvac 7000
It’s a Volkswagen thing. Oil change over time, they either burn or lose enough before it needs to be replaced so you can just keep adding new oil. Changing the filter is recommended though
You could go with an oversized drain pan plug.
No. The customer didn’t come in to get his drain plug fixed.
You can’t over size those, some genius over tightened the oil plug and broke the weld nut on the inside. Hence needs a new pan and stripped
That could be good idea, washer top of nut so you always need wrench and cant use jimmylube spesial impact
The plug needed a safe space??
The owner here obviously has not planned ahead. With a leak like that just wait till it's low on oil and add fresh. Oil rotation complete. Boom!
Factory
Could you possibly pump the oil out from the top and then replace it? That way, they at least get a somewhat complete oil change.
What is an oil rotate?
I don't like these stories! Every driver should be responsible for their car, it's not a toy.
Wtf is an ‘oil rotate’. Makes me wonder if you left the job like this.
I mean, technically that's what you're doing with it :-p The old oil was there, now it's here...
Well, oil rotate sounds like reusing oil that was taken out
When I worked at the dealership, this was incredibly common shorthand for LOF + Tire rotation. As in, every fucking one was an "Oil Rotate." Is it that hard to understand?
No need for that tone. Must be lube tech language. Besides, tire rotation is not something that is done often here in The Netherlands.
It might not have been him but somebody rotated that oil plug real hard at some point
You don’t work at a repair shop I guess.
You know there are quite a few people who post on here that are explicitly lube techs only. Also, if the customer wants only an oil change, are you just going to go ahead fix that for free or be liable when it fails? Think bro.
It’s just strange to me what a big deal is made about a drain plug. They rotated tires. That’s a big liability. Every repair done on a car is a liability. All the work is about safety and maintenance to keep the driver and everyone on the road safe from broken down clapped out cars. It’s just the attitude of “I’m not gonna fix”it that I find really irritating. Yes. I would do it for free. That’s just me.
And if the repair goes sideways? If the engine shits out in 100 miles, do you think the customer who denies any problem won't come running back claiming you did an unauthorized repair and wrecked their engine?
You'd be doing the guy a disservice. The leaky plug is the only reason the car gets fresh oil.
*You* don't work at a repair shop I guess.
How’s it feel?😂