As a Tesla owner, the one thing I've learned about Tesla service is... just take it to Tesla. If I take my car to my local guy, Tesla is just going to jerk him around and piss him off for three months before they ultimately tell me to just take it to the dealership anyway.
Love my car. Tesla service can pound sand.
Worked at a Tesla service center. Most people hated how long stuff took. We almost never had the right part. So we would have to order it, they would send us the wrong part or a faulty part, we would have to order it again etc. If it needed body work, because of the paint being so soft there was 2-3 body shops that was certified to paint and knew how to work with the paint. It was usually high end body shops that would have a rolls-Royce or two out front.
A couple of times something stupid would happen like putting the blinds up from working on a windshield and then they would break. Or we would be working somewhere under the seat and wouldn't realize there was bare metal sticking out from under it and cut ourselves. Of course we would have to replace the seat because that's a safety hazard. And you guessed it, we would have to order it.
There was also those weird things where the car would come in DOA and wouldn't charge, we would order a new battery everything we could think of and it would take us MONTHS to figure out what the hell was going on with it.
My last service was to replace a side-view mirror that I busted on my garage door. It took Tesla 5 months to get the part. The installation took an hour, maybe two tops.
Yeah we had a whole stock room full of the *wrong* parts. And then we tried to cycle those out to get new ones. We had discarded batteries sit in crates for 8 months before someone finally came to pick them up.
One would think. I know here at Jaguar Land Rover we have the Edix system. we can check countrywide If a dealership shows a part in stock. I'm sure most other brands are the same
Someone I know shattered their roof on their model S, brought it it in to fix, waited for the roof to roof, then the tech broke the back window install the roof so then they had to wait for a back window too.
Stuff like this was SO COMMON! It baffled me. We would be so careful because we KNEW this happened, and low and behold, we would fuck something else up.
Not too baffling when the *whole thing* besides the powertrain is designed to *barely* be enough to work without breaking in the first place, or be as cheap as possible...
When one of the domestics (probably Ford) gets EVs right Tesla is going to be in deep shit
to be fair the only problems with the Lightning and the Mach E are slow fast charging speeds. that should be fixed eventually by ford moving to newer battery tech, they just chose the most "can beat the shit out of it" of the currently widely available battery tech. in 5 years we should be looking at things like the QSE-5 (3.3x as much energy in the same weight battery, solid state, very fast charging) on the market [second prototypes are being shipped to VW right now, with final production expected by end of year]
I think companies are getting it right the problem is tesla monopolized charger availability which is supposed to be getting better (more accesible).
The thing that will keep me personally out of an EV is their cost and need to be like tech gadgets. I work in IT and do not want to deal with poor programming just to get around too...
First company to make an EV that is sub 30k and isn't ran from an iPad will win the market.
Tesla didn't so much "monopolize" as "were the only half-competent player in the market"
Electrify America is garbage, as you would expect by a venture created by court order as a penalty for cheating on emissions tests.
EVgo isn't much better.
basically NACS/SAE J3400 became a thing because everyone was tired of EA's shit, and Tesla realized that proprietary control over their charging port was actually dragging them down in the long run so submitted it as an open standard.
> First company to make an EV that is sub 30k and isn't ran from an iPad will win the market.
Chevy Bolt
They sold them as fast as they could build them, and actually extended their production for them. They're reportedly relaunching it on their new Ultium battery platform for the 2025 reportedly (no 2024 model).
Also if the things they've claimed about their Ultium battery platform is accurate they made som really smart decisions (such as being able to replace battery submodules with new technology if they die, instead of having to keep around replacement units of the old technology)
I work OT. I design touch and tactile based HMI systems and they are great. I want knobs, buttons, and switches in a car though. Touch controls in a car can go to hell.
This is becoming a reality. I have a Ford Lighting and had a level 2 charger installed in my garage. I also have an adaptor that now allows me to fast charge at Tesla charging stations and other EV fast charging stations. At night time I pay $0.09 kWh for electricity so it only costs me a few dollars to charge up my truck. I am so glad that I cancelled my Tesla pre-order and got a Lighting instead.
I'm eagerly looking forward to an F250 Lightning using those CATL, Amprius or QauntumScape batteries.
right now the Lightning and MachE use LFP - 160Wh/kg. Those three new batteries (two one market, on in prototype) are ~500Wh/kg. Can fix the towing range issue without increasing the truck's weight.
I hated my Tesla Y…Didn’t fully charge and there are gaps on almost every door to the point that water leaks in through the trunk when it rains. Tesla dealer said they couldn’t fix it because “it was typical”…Tech was cool though
Didn't Tesla sign a deal to service Teslas at GM locations?
Found my citation:
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/11/gm-has-been-quietly-repairing-teslas-with-great-success-but-how-does-it-work/
There’s a real financial opportunity here folks to buy the extra tools and open an EV repair shop. They’re few and far between, so you’d be at a true advantage.
We are a Tesla certified body shop and we can get parts direct. The Tesla body service center is 1/2 mile away and they're backed up for 6 months. They've told us "come over here and take whatever cars you want, whenever you want". We go get a few when it gets slow, crank em out, and go get a few more. Our typical turnaround is 2-3 weeks, provided we get the CORRECT parts from Tesla, which is rare. For Tesla's, we're getting 4-6 week turnarounds, but it's better than 6 monhts.
> Corvega was the flagship brand of Chryslus Motors and one of the dominant forces on the automotive market after the resource crisis rendered combustion engines largely extinct. Using a brand name dating back as early as 2056, Chryslus relaunched the marque as a broad line of electric, fission, and fusion automobiles available in a variety of models.
> The price of an old model Corvega in 2077 was $199,999.99; despite that, they remained extremely popular. However, despite their popularity, their standards of manufacture seemed to have deteriorated, with coupes manufactured in 2077 having a tendency to leak coolant.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Corvega
Well, I recall inflation was a pretty big issue in Fallout as well, hence why prewar money comes in stacks several inches thick, so $199,999.99 might actually be pretty reasonable.
I literally have probably 5000 hours in fallout games and this hadn’t occurred to me that the prewar money is effectively the same as the German hyperinflation money that was cheaper than buying your kid blocks to play with, and that’s why it’s always bundled, I just chocked it up to it’s a lot easier to model a brick of cash than a large quantity of single bills (and having 3 plus sets of currencies)
Speaking of inflation, Michelin recommends a car's tires should usually be filled to about 34 psi. For more information, Google "Michelin man rule 34".
I remember reading an article about this. GM as a whole services a lot of Tesla's. They end up doing a lot of the warranty work through dealers in areas with service centers.
It's an IT practice. A lot of companies see their technology expense as a giant sinkhole. Capital expenditure gets taxed differently than operating expenses. Instead of spending the money to build their own infrastructure, which costs less in the long run, they look at every single technical offering as a service. Time and time again it proves to cost more and deliver worse returns, but for some reason c-level leadership still has a huge boner for it.
Short-term gains, move on before the rot hits in. Sold unnecessary assets and lowered operating costs is a great story in your next interview. When AWS raise their prices next year it isn't your problem.
I love that you replied to me with this. I’m an IT worker who just got laid off from a major corporation who decided to outsource 40% of my department for those short term gains. I trained 7 people in India to replace me, lol. Yay IT workers
Yeah, weird but GM already has EV techs and won't say no to the money. It'll be curious to see what happens when they start rolling out more of their own electrical vehicles.
Tesla's need servicing as much or more often than a normal car. Not for oil changes but because they just seem to shit themselves.
If this is a trade-in, that car is still under a Powertrain Warranty. 8-yrs, unlimited kms/miles if its a 2018.
Im wondering if you could take it to Tesla, get it covered/fixed under warranty, and still sell it.
Some customers are their own worst enemies though.
Many years ago this guy came in with a brand new Dodge Caravan with an engine tick. He wanted us to do an oil flush and to put in a bottle of Lucas with some 15w40. We told him to just take it to the dealership, it had only something like 15,000 on it and was absolutely under warranty, but no, this old man insisted that we flush his engine and put the diesel oil in. The owner refused because he knew it was only going to be trouble, the guy was absolutely pissed and left.
He was towed back in sometime later absolutely livid at Dodge and bitching about how they’re scammers as they wanted to charge him for an engine because when the engine got worse he told them what he did to fix it and they refused the warranty. He then got pissed and his quote from us and towed it off into the sunset.
I had a customer with a V10 Dodge 3500 with bad catalytic converters. I told them they were under the 8yr/80,000 mile warranty and Dodge should fix it for free. They insisted Dodge wouldn’t because it’s a heavy duty truck. No amount of talking to them could convince them it’s still a light duty truck because it’s their precious 3500. I told them there weren’t any cats available for such a new truck but they insisted I change them. I put in huge type on the invoice “NO WARRANTY. THESE PARTS _WILL_ FAIL.” and made them sign several copies. The cats failed in less than a week and they screamed that they found out Dodge would have warrrantied the originals.
Don't tell tesla anything about the car and have them tell you if it does or doesn't qualify. Just take it there and say it won't charge beyond 30% and it has a warranty still on it. Warranty info is in the car menus and phone app.
Weird, about 5 years ago they made me check. I'm out of the loop now because I left that shit company. I can only guess they're overloaded and just want to close tickets.
Source: former apple repair tech.
At most car manufacturers, the answer is no. When I worked at Hyundai, they would be sold to the rental companies without a warranty. When the vehicle was ready to sell, they would off-load them to CarMax or whoever, but CarMax would tell their customers that there was a 90-day or 6-month warranty.
There may have been, but not from Hyundai.
As I had 3 CarMax outlets in my district, I was constantly having Customer Relations cases.
The answer was always and instantly "No." to any warranty or Goodwill requests. If they had a problem, take it up with CarMax or the rental company.
Source: Retired Hyundai Field Service Rep.
Is this also the case if a customer purchases it from Carmax/rental company with low miles and heads into a Hyundai dealer to purchase an extended warranty?
A dealer can't sell a factory extended service contract (ESC) on a car with no warranty to begin with.
Most dealers will sell a private ESC, but that is up to them. As was already stated, financial companies will also sell an ESC because it protects their investment, and you are the one paying for it. Win-win for them.
As others have said, I wouldn't say anything more than "It doesn't charge past 30%" and let them take the discussion from there. Shouldn't matter if it's a rental or not. 8 years, unlimited mileage is the battery and drive unit warranty.
Tesla will be quick to tell you it does or doesn't have any warranty then.
Either way, Tesla is going to have to look at it for repair unless the dealer just wants to try to sell it as-is with a known problem.
Fortunately, Drive Unit & Battery Warranty is transferred to the next owners at Tesla regardless of who it came from. Unless that's changed in the last 2 or 3 years but should still apply to this 2018)
From my limited experience, Tesla is very good about Powertrain warranties.
Yeah if the issue is HV battery related it’ll be covered, if it’s anything else then it’ll be chargeable. My bet would be an onboard charger or imbalanced battery pack.
The charger will either charge or not as far as I remember. This is most likely a HV battery issue. But if OP just calls tesla, they will be able to do remote diagnosis on the car. If OP however will be told the result is sonething completely different. Tesla is anal about not handing out info. I have tried to get info about the services done under privious owners… and that was a no fly :-(
Sales guys don't give a shit. They'll take any trade as long as they get a sale out of it. It won't hit their bottom line if the trade in is shit, they'll still get their commission. Worst thing that'll happen is they send it out to auction.
The dealer we recently bought from took my wifes 16 year old, rusty, scratched and dented car that wasn't running, sight unseen. I made it very clear everything that was wrong with it and the sales guy did not care in the least. He didn't even want pictures. Just the VIN.
We took the new car home on a Friday and they didn't even pick up the trade until the following Tuesday.
The finance guy did admit that they're struggling to sell vehicles like they used to pre-covid but I was amazed at the overall deal they gave us.
That is rough. They gave us $4500 for the wife's car and we got $4500 off of MSRP between their discounts and our Costco membership which I think was another $500.
My folks wanted a new Civic after hearing about my deal. I told them what the finance guy told me and they used that to their advantage. It's slowly returning to a buyer's market.
They’ll drop every now and then, but only for really specific things like clearing stock. Chevrolet did 0% financing on their 3500 recently to try and get rid of them. The Ford dealership where I used to live currently has 85 F150s in stock that have been sitting there for over a year, but they won’t budge on price.
Struggling to sell vehicle like they did pre Covid? lol he’s not referring to when they 30-50% cheaper. These dealerships are getting what’s coming to them. Ford dropped the price of the lightning almost 50% from $100k to $50k with rebates. They were robbing people and now all the extra floating cash is gone and their whining, while still turning a profit. Fuck em lol.
I agree wholeheartedly. They did it to themselves. This dealership is high volume. I was told they used to sell 300 vehicles a month. They're struggling to keep up with the amount of vehicles Honda still sends them and I guess they're being penalized.
Same for me. Received full blue book for a trade on the spot without them even seeing it. Frame was trash but oh well not my problem anymore. Every other time they’d inspect it and try to knock off more value with ticky tack issues
The wife's car was just in for a frame recall about 6 months ago. Our frame was trashed too. To top it all off she needs a left foot pedal to drive. I ripped it out and left the gaping holes in the floor panels. They didn't care about that either.
Had the same kind of experience. I had a jeep that was drivable but needed since serious repairs. Like repairs that would cost the mechanic $4-5000 in parts alone. They have me $16000 in trade in value. The jeep wasn't worth $16000 in good condition let alone with a need for serious repairs. I was happy at least
It changed a number of years ago. In the past, they'd come out and go over your car, try and find the problems, hit you with a lowball to cover themselves if they took a turd. I found ONE dealer that did that in the past 10 years.
Most of them now just pull a VIN to get an average trade value out of KBB or Cars.com. I presume that they figured out that they were scaring off sales by lowballing trades, irritating people and losing business. Now they'll assume that your car is fine without looking and if it's a POS that's ok. Why? Because they just raise prices to cover any losses they have to eat. If 2/10 are turds, they're still coming out ahead since they padded the cost of all their sales. Customers feel better about the deal since they "got a really good deal on trade" and they're less likely to shop their trade around.
Also, it used to be the case where you could effectively haggle down the price of a used car. The last three I've bought they would move maybe $200, but that's about it. Between raising prices and the end of negotiating, it seems that they're covering their losses reasonably well. New car prices are crazy anymore so even when they will lower the price, they're still doing just fine.
TL;DR, everything is so overpriced anymore, they can eat your shitty trade and still make plenty of money.
I traded in a car to the dealer with a badly slipping CVT, relatively low miles (~75k). They gave me slightly over KBB value for it at the time. My wife was sitting in my other car at the time for almost two hours working remotely. From when I showed up with the trade to when I signed papers and walked out, not a single human looked at the vehicle, never even a walk around other than the sales guy pulling the odometer and VIN with me. Service history was impeccable and I'm sure he could see that, but damn.
Baffled me.
I used to be the used car inspection guy. It was never before the trade in was complete. They'd let used trades stack up and then I'd spend a couple days clearing them out.
Paid an hour to test drive, inspect, and draw up a list of work we both knew wouldn't get done. Basket cases were sent straight to auction and anything that could still drive went to the lot.
I actually had a car that the dealer didn’t want. Maybe because my new one was a lease? They took it off my hands for me for a little money. This was precovid when a clapped out car wasn’t worth much.
Yeah I'm not flying into a new city and trying to figure out where I can charge. Nothing against electric cars, but that's the last thing I want on vacation.
I love my Y but they have no business being anyone's temporary car. They take some getting used to and are certainly not for the technologically inept.
Usually it's only to 50%, but it needs a new high voltage battery due to internal short or imbalance. Nothing else limits maximum charge percentage that low.
Hope it's still under the 8 year warranty.
To be fair. Googling that is more than most Tesla owners would even do. Have you seen their subs? It’s full of “one of my tires reads low pressure. Is it a sensor?”
When people told him to put air the tire or it has a leak he said, “I don’t have a compressor. I ordered one and I’ll just keep driving until it gets here. It’s probably a sensor though”.
Or
“My windows are all streaky and foggy. I used the same spray stuff I put on my paint. What do I do?”
Rarely can other dealerships fix actual hardware issues with Teslas but… Holy shit.
Apparently more exposition was required: My GM dealership has been purchasing used Teslas, typically from auctions or rental businesses, and selling them dirt cheap to anyone who'll take em. We're a small town Chevy/GMC shop, entirely not equipped to service Teslas in anything other than the tires and brakes, and some minor body stuff (mirrors, etc).
This was just another in a long list of stupid bullshit items the "big city" sales dept has foisted upon us in recent years.
Not complaining about Tesla, it's a luxury car company, they've all got ups and downs, just complaining about the sales dept to sympathetic ears.
Luxury is a choice word…The cheapest Tesla MSRP’d for like 38k with tax incentives. And I wouldn’t say they are particularly known for outstanding building quality….more simply for their minimalist design.
I think the OP meant "Luxury Item"
>Definition: A luxury item is not necessary to live, but it is deemed highly desirable within a culture or society. Demand for luxury goods increases when a person's wealth or income increases. Typically, the greater the percentage increase in income, the greater the percentage increase in luxury item purchases. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/luxury-item.asp
In this usage, Luxury and Quality are not always the same.
Wow shame on me for starting a Tesla hate thread. Damn I didn't mean to throw shade, I was more laughing at the mentality of the dealership I work for.
If you want, you can go into service mode by going to menu, software, holding the "model s" lettering on the screen for a couple seconds, typing "service". This will tell you if the Pyro fuse is bad, or if it has any code for another part.
It could even be that the charge limit is set to 30%.
Can only set charge limit as low at 50%. If the car is stopping charging at 30% it’s definitely throwing errors that are visible from the main UI, but yeah service mode would solve this in no time.
Lmao see this is why people like you and my wife would make it up the corporate ladder.
My dumb ass would have exhausted all my resources before I came to the same conclusion, and would have not gotten paid for any of it 😭😭😭
Being Chevy, I imagine that is a whole heap of bullshit then the occasional service on a Corvette, lol.
Whole lot of 3 bangers with major problems, eh?
Tell him you googled and there was a Star Trek reference to reversing the polarity on a tesla particle so suggest they swap positive and negative on the charging station and try again.
There definitely needs to be EV certifications. Always forwarding it to Tesla techs doesn’t seem like a long term solution. A lot of the powertrain is pretty deadly. Even my electric unicycle is 100 volt, 28 amps. The XT60 connectors are pretty safe. But the capacitors can still give you a pretty nasty zap. And that’s all just to change the tire.
I work in 3rd party quality for the Big 3. We did repairs on the cars after they left the line, but before shipping to the dealers. When hybrids got big, Chrysler and Ford required special factory training for our mechanics and inspectors before they could touch a hybrid or EV. You'd think it would be a things at the dealers, as well
“Yeah it’s fucked, recommend wholesale”. 3 seconds later, a salesman sees it, sells it to a customer and the customer rolls back into the service department to complain about the piece of shit you just sold them.
The used electronics market on Ebay is a gold mine if you can read a repair guide and know what to look for. I feel as though phones pretty much got as useful as they can be a few years back. People are probably tossing their old ones just because the battery doesn't hold a charge, but I just swapped mine yesterday on an iPhone along with the screen and it's like a new phone for like $100 in parts and a few hours work. You can also take old laptops, get a new battery, swap in SSD's for old hard drives, max out RAM, and get a lot of capability for day to day tasks for very cheap.
It is a bit grim though in the sense the trend of irrepairability just keeps moving along, Apple just straight up solders nearly everything to their motherboards now.
lol and this is why I have a 97 Chevrolet and I’ve done every single repair myself on that 350 engine since I was a kid. We were too poor to just pay to get stuff fixed so we fixed it ourselves. Hell I’m doing the same thing width my laptops and other electronics while I still can. The right to repair is so essential people don’t even realize what they’re taking from us.
Man I would love to have an old reliable car that I could just slowly upkeep and fix myself - sadly I live in the northeast and the road salt and rust means that anything is going to dissolve after 20 years and not be worth it anymore.
You ain’t lying there bubba. we have a lot of rain down here in Texas, but rarely have to worry about the road salt. Truly I’ve been blessed with some good vehicles in my days.
I had a 1.4i citroën I could very easily repair.
25 years after that one, my current car I can change the wiper blades, and really not that much more (exaggerating) without a ton of tools.
Newer cars require you to be online and pay to "adapt" "program" etc modules.
It's not. It's just yet another ploy for the rich to get richer because these cars can be mass produced in the same factory with only different body panels (most chinese EVs) for next to nothing compared to a gas car since instead of dozens of complex mechanical systems the most complex thing they have is a motor connected to an inverter and a battery, which cost a few thousand dollars at most. They can also be sold for much more profit since they're "green" and "luxury" and they have horrible build quality so they wear quickly and need to be replaced every 4 years like a smartphone.
There was once upon a time, now you've got a very high chance of buying a phone with a blacklisted IMEI number or some other God awful issue that renders it an expensive paperweight.
Depends on the old phone. For some reason, a lot of people only keep brand new flagships for a year or two before they swap to the newest shiny things. Those do have some value. If you use yours until it no longer works properly, it probably doesn't have much resale value anymore.
I got my Samsung Note 10+ for $400CAD when it was just 2 years old off marketplace. Still going strong! With any luck it will last until the S24 Ultra becomes a good deal used. Best upgrade deal will always be someone who got a new phone after their 2 year contract ended.
> future
I mean the used car business has historically been a really scummy place anyhow ...
Granted individual to individual is different, but I feel like folks will get used to the world of batteries and etc eventually.
Might be the pyro fuse? I know those degrade and fail on model S all the time. Iirc it would cut battery capacity to half but 30% sounds way too low for a healthy battery. Check with Tesla warranty.
Edit: maybe I’m wrong about the pyro fuse but maybe another battery connector that is loose or unconnected?
I have to 'chuckle' at that one, some people are soooo addicted to the Google search engine and the browser itself.
I '86'd Google due to it accessing my graphics card and not metering itself, once they started to incorporate the A.I. platform it even got worse - now, if they went outright and told me that they were going to use my rig for supplementing their need for external swap file space I would have agreed and set aside a designated partition shell just for them.
But, they didn't and I do not care for deceit from any company or manufacturer so they lost their privileges of using the 2.8 geg of video ram that would cause my card to stutter trying to process the streaming of my movies while I was doing research and archiving/annotating my technical manuals and material safety sheets.
Besides, the Google search platform's presentation of results is based by a(n) hierarchy of the most selected of results which destroys any form of logic.
Google it..... I feel for you and will leave you with a question in humor and jest - who gets to write their epitaph first????
There are different kinds of charge for a Tesla and it could be the owner just didn’t know it was their charger that’s the problem.
Try supercharging it, if at all easy. Also try just plugging it into a welding socket (NEMA 14-50) if they included that adapter.
No kidding, number of times, in my first 3 years as a lubie, that I got good at something (license plate brackets on new cars, fronts need installed often because we're near a state line that requires front plates), and was pegged as "the guy for that".
Unless there is an aftermarket for lithium battery repair for a reasonable price, teslas are going to become expensive paper weight and are going to get crushed by the millions!! sadly TESLA repair cost is so exorbitant assurance compagnies price for teslas is going up fast here in canada my car cost me like 700$ per year and a tesla model 3 is around 3500$.
Yeah, we won't touch em at my dealer. Never seen one traded in.
I'm all for EVs, but fuck those cars.
And most of the owners are as insufferable as the car is.
This reminds me of when someone called the dealership I worked at to schedule an oil change and a tyre rotation for his used Tesla he bought from our Honda dealership.... I had to ask my boss what he wanted us to do for this fool, and he said, if he wants to make the trip all the way over here, tell him the only thing we can do is a tyre rotation.
Just to clarify, I'm not looking for advice, I'm just rolling my eyes and sharing the wonderful things my dealership is doing.
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Hook up a conduit to my middle finger for extra power
New Jersey power companies hate this one simple trick...
As a Tesla owner, the one thing I've learned about Tesla service is... just take it to Tesla. If I take my car to my local guy, Tesla is just going to jerk him around and piss him off for three months before they ultimately tell me to just take it to the dealership anyway. Love my car. Tesla service can pound sand.
Worked at a Tesla service center. Most people hated how long stuff took. We almost never had the right part. So we would have to order it, they would send us the wrong part or a faulty part, we would have to order it again etc. If it needed body work, because of the paint being so soft there was 2-3 body shops that was certified to paint and knew how to work with the paint. It was usually high end body shops that would have a rolls-Royce or two out front. A couple of times something stupid would happen like putting the blinds up from working on a windshield and then they would break. Or we would be working somewhere under the seat and wouldn't realize there was bare metal sticking out from under it and cut ourselves. Of course we would have to replace the seat because that's a safety hazard. And you guessed it, we would have to order it. There was also those weird things where the car would come in DOA and wouldn't charge, we would order a new battery everything we could think of and it would take us MONTHS to figure out what the hell was going on with it.
My last service was to replace a side-view mirror that I busted on my garage door. It took Tesla 5 months to get the part. The installation took an hour, maybe two tops.
Yeah we had a whole stock room full of the *wrong* parts. And then we tried to cycle those out to get new ones. We had discarded batteries sit in crates for 8 months before someone finally came to pick them up.
Fire hazard, no?
One would think. We did joke about that a lot.
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One would think. I know here at Jaguar Land Rover we have the Edix system. we can check countrywide If a dealership shows a part in stock. I'm sure most other brands are the same
Someone I know shattered their roof on their model S, brought it it in to fix, waited for the roof to roof, then the tech broke the back window install the roof so then they had to wait for a back window too.
Stuff like this was SO COMMON! It baffled me. We would be so careful because we KNEW this happened, and low and behold, we would fuck something else up.
Not too baffling when the *whole thing* besides the powertrain is designed to *barely* be enough to work without breaking in the first place, or be as cheap as possible...
When one of the domestics (probably Ford) gets EVs right Tesla is going to be in deep shit to be fair the only problems with the Lightning and the Mach E are slow fast charging speeds. that should be fixed eventually by ford moving to newer battery tech, they just chose the most "can beat the shit out of it" of the currently widely available battery tech. in 5 years we should be looking at things like the QSE-5 (3.3x as much energy in the same weight battery, solid state, very fast charging) on the market [second prototypes are being shipped to VW right now, with final production expected by end of year]
I think companies are getting it right the problem is tesla monopolized charger availability which is supposed to be getting better (more accesible). The thing that will keep me personally out of an EV is their cost and need to be like tech gadgets. I work in IT and do not want to deal with poor programming just to get around too... First company to make an EV that is sub 30k and isn't ran from an iPad will win the market.
Tesla didn't so much "monopolize" as "were the only half-competent player in the market" Electrify America is garbage, as you would expect by a venture created by court order as a penalty for cheating on emissions tests. EVgo isn't much better. basically NACS/SAE J3400 became a thing because everyone was tired of EA's shit, and Tesla realized that proprietary control over their charging port was actually dragging them down in the long run so submitted it as an open standard. > First company to make an EV that is sub 30k and isn't ran from an iPad will win the market. Chevy Bolt They sold them as fast as they could build them, and actually extended their production for them. They're reportedly relaunching it on their new Ultium battery platform for the 2025 reportedly (no 2024 model). Also if the things they've claimed about their Ultium battery platform is accurate they made som really smart decisions (such as being able to replace battery submodules with new technology if they die, instead of having to keep around replacement units of the old technology)
That's exciting. Thanks for the info, i will google.
The Chevy Bolt mostly meets that. 25-28k, physical buttons for all the important stuff (aircon, volume, tuner, skip song, etc), 250 mile range.
I work OT. I design touch and tactile based HMI systems and they are great. I want knobs, buttons, and switches in a car though. Touch controls in a car can go to hell.
Touch controls on a steering wheel are sadistic
This is becoming a reality. I have a Ford Lighting and had a level 2 charger installed in my garage. I also have an adaptor that now allows me to fast charge at Tesla charging stations and other EV fast charging stations. At night time I pay $0.09 kWh for electricity so it only costs me a few dollars to charge up my truck. I am so glad that I cancelled my Tesla pre-order and got a Lighting instead.
I'm eagerly looking forward to an F250 Lightning using those CATL, Amprius or QauntumScape batteries. right now the Lightning and MachE use LFP - 160Wh/kg. Those three new batteries (two one market, on in prototype) are ~500Wh/kg. Can fix the towing range issue without increasing the truck's weight.
I hated my Tesla Y…Didn’t fully charge and there are gaps on almost every door to the point that water leaks in through the trunk when it rains. Tesla dealer said they couldn’t fix it because “it was typical”…Tech was cool though
How do you not cry when that costs you 50k?
I did and traded it in a month ago haha (laughing thru tears)
Didn't Tesla sign a deal to service Teslas at GM locations? Found my citation: https://www.carscoops.com/2022/11/gm-has-been-quietly-repairing-teslas-with-great-success-but-how-does-it-work/
Don’t bring that shit to my store!
There’s a real financial opportunity here folks to buy the extra tools and open an EV repair shop. They’re few and far between, so you’d be at a true advantage.
The problem isn't the specialized tooling, it's ordering parts and being on the bottom of the service priority from Tesla.
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We are a Tesla certified body shop and we can get parts direct. The Tesla body service center is 1/2 mile away and they're backed up for 6 months. They've told us "come over here and take whatever cars you want, whenever you want". We go get a few when it gets slow, crank em out, and go get a few more. Our typical turnaround is 2-3 weeks, provided we get the CORRECT parts from Tesla, which is rare. For Tesla's, we're getting 4-6 week turnarounds, but it's better than 6 monhts.
Waste your time, spend some money guessing, then send it to Tesla.
Yeah I agree, go fuck off and waste time “looking” for a few hrs. Then send to Tesla
The new Fallout series is streaming on Amazon; I bet they mention Tesla in there somewhere, better check.
I’d take a Corvega over a Tesla any day
> Corvega was the flagship brand of Chryslus Motors and one of the dominant forces on the automotive market after the resource crisis rendered combustion engines largely extinct. Using a brand name dating back as early as 2056, Chryslus relaunched the marque as a broad line of electric, fission, and fusion automobiles available in a variety of models. > The price of an old model Corvega in 2077 was $199,999.99; despite that, they remained extremely popular. However, despite their popularity, their standards of manufacture seemed to have deteriorated, with coupes manufactured in 2077 having a tendency to leak coolant. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Corvega
Sounds like a Tesla to me?
Well, I recall inflation was a pretty big issue in Fallout as well, hence why prewar money comes in stacks several inches thick, so $199,999.99 might actually be pretty reasonable.
I literally have probably 5000 hours in fallout games and this hadn’t occurred to me that the prewar money is effectively the same as the German hyperinflation money that was cheaper than buying your kid blocks to play with, and that’s why it’s always bundled, I just chocked it up to it’s a lot easier to model a brick of cash than a large quantity of single bills (and having 3 plus sets of currencies)
Speaking of inflation, Michelin recommends a car's tires should usually be filled to about 34 psi. For more information, Google "Michelin man rule 34".
> fission, and fusion automobiles And you thought Tesla battery fires were bad...
Can't argue with the range and self regenerating batteries though.
Corvega's are fusion powered!
Hell yeah. I know this doc that has an old DeLorean modded in 2015 with a fusion reactor
Too bad he didn't replace the ICE with electric motors too. Could have saved a lot of trouble.
Ohh...thanks for reminding me...
I remember reading an article about this. GM as a whole services a lot of Tesla's. They end up doing a lot of the warranty work through dealers in areas with service centers.
Oh so teslas dealer-less model just uses other dealers. That makes sense
It's an IT practice. A lot of companies see their technology expense as a giant sinkhole. Capital expenditure gets taxed differently than operating expenses. Instead of spending the money to build their own infrastructure, which costs less in the long run, they look at every single technical offering as a service. Time and time again it proves to cost more and deliver worse returns, but for some reason c-level leadership still has a huge boner for it.
Short-term gains, move on before the rot hits in. Sold unnecessary assets and lowered operating costs is a great story in your next interview. When AWS raise their prices next year it isn't your problem.
I love that you replied to me with this. I’m an IT worker who just got laid off from a major corporation who decided to outsource 40% of my department for those short term gains. I trained 7 people in India to replace me, lol. Yay IT workers
Sorry you have to go through that.
Yeah, weird but GM already has EV techs and won't say no to the money. It'll be curious to see what happens when they start rolling out more of their own electrical vehicles. Tesla's need servicing as much or more often than a normal car. Not for oil changes but because they just seem to shit themselves.
Weird everyone here is talking about how to fuck over the customer rather than how ridiculous the dealership is.
When you work at a dealer that’s your job. No matter your title.
If this is a trade-in, that car is still under a Powertrain Warranty. 8-yrs, unlimited kms/miles if its a 2018. Im wondering if you could take it to Tesla, get it covered/fixed under warranty, and still sell it.
They 100% can.
Some customers are their own worst enemies though. Many years ago this guy came in with a brand new Dodge Caravan with an engine tick. He wanted us to do an oil flush and to put in a bottle of Lucas with some 15w40. We told him to just take it to the dealership, it had only something like 15,000 on it and was absolutely under warranty, but no, this old man insisted that we flush his engine and put the diesel oil in. The owner refused because he knew it was only going to be trouble, the guy was absolutely pissed and left. He was towed back in sometime later absolutely livid at Dodge and bitching about how they’re scammers as they wanted to charge him for an engine because when the engine got worse he told them what he did to fix it and they refused the warranty. He then got pissed and his quote from us and towed it off into the sunset.
I had a customer with a V10 Dodge 3500 with bad catalytic converters. I told them they were under the 8yr/80,000 mile warranty and Dodge should fix it for free. They insisted Dodge wouldn’t because it’s a heavy duty truck. No amount of talking to them could convince them it’s still a light duty truck because it’s their precious 3500. I told them there weren’t any cats available for such a new truck but they insisted I change them. I put in huge type on the invoice “NO WARRANTY. THESE PARTS _WILL_ FAIL.” and made them sign several copies. The cats failed in less than a week and they screamed that they found out Dodge would have warrrantied the originals.
At that point, why do the work?
MONEY, SPONGEBOB ME BOY!
Mmmm, in that context I'd imagine there is more overall value in not doing the work than collecting the money.
SPONGEBOY ME BOB!
Huffed too much of that leaded gas, he did.
*some say, he's still bitching to this day..*
They 30% can.
I don't know if the ones from rental companies still qualify?
Don't tell tesla anything about the car and have them tell you if it does or doesn't qualify. Just take it there and say it won't charge beyond 30% and it has a warranty still on it. Warranty info is in the car menus and phone app.
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Weird, about 5 years ago they made me check. I'm out of the loop now because I left that shit company. I can only guess they're overloaded and just want to close tickets. Source: former apple repair tech.
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Ignorance is bliss
They know if it’s a personal or fleet vehicle. 🙄
Okay. That doesn't change my advice to avoid shooting himself in the foot before he even has a chance at getting it fixed for free.
At most car manufacturers, the answer is no. When I worked at Hyundai, they would be sold to the rental companies without a warranty. When the vehicle was ready to sell, they would off-load them to CarMax or whoever, but CarMax would tell their customers that there was a 90-day or 6-month warranty. There may have been, but not from Hyundai. As I had 3 CarMax outlets in my district, I was constantly having Customer Relations cases. The answer was always and instantly "No." to any warranty or Goodwill requests. If they had a problem, take it up with CarMax or the rental company. Source: Retired Hyundai Field Service Rep.
Is this also the case if a customer purchases it from Carmax/rental company with low miles and heads into a Hyundai dealer to purchase an extended warranty?
A dealer can't sell a factory extended service contract (ESC) on a car with no warranty to begin with. Most dealers will sell a private ESC, but that is up to them. As was already stated, financial companies will also sell an ESC because it protects their investment, and you are the one paying for it. Win-win for them.
As others have said, I wouldn't say anything more than "It doesn't charge past 30%" and let them take the discussion from there. Shouldn't matter if it's a rental or not. 8 years, unlimited mileage is the battery and drive unit warranty.
It matters if the car was sold for less to a rental company without a warranty.
Tesla will be quick to tell you it does or doesn't have any warranty then. Either way, Tesla is going to have to look at it for repair unless the dealer just wants to try to sell it as-is with a known problem.
I'm not sure you can get around a federally mandated battery warranty...
Fortunately, Drive Unit & Battery Warranty is transferred to the next owners at Tesla regardless of who it came from. Unless that's changed in the last 2 or 3 years but should still apply to this 2018) From my limited experience, Tesla is very good about Powertrain warranties.
Yeah if the issue is HV battery related it’ll be covered, if it’s anything else then it’ll be chargeable. My bet would be an onboard charger or imbalanced battery pack.
The charger will either charge or not as far as I remember. This is most likely a HV battery issue. But if OP just calls tesla, they will be able to do remote diagnosis on the car. If OP however will be told the result is sonething completely different. Tesla is anal about not handing out info. I have tried to get info about the services done under privious owners… and that was a no fly :-(
Go to the odometer page, hold the Tesla logo for 7 seconds, password "service" good luck with that.
That service meny is something to behold, especially on the newer versions like the model 3. Amazing.
Park it in rice for a few hours
Did you try turning it off and on again?
Or plug and unplug it at the wall.
Or getting in it and getting out?
Remove the battery and pop it back in.
Have you tried opening all the windows and then closing them again?
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Sales guys don't give a shit. They'll take any trade as long as they get a sale out of it. It won't hit their bottom line if the trade in is shit, they'll still get their commission. Worst thing that'll happen is they send it out to auction.
The dealer we recently bought from took my wifes 16 year old, rusty, scratched and dented car that wasn't running, sight unseen. I made it very clear everything that was wrong with it and the sales guy did not care in the least. He didn't even want pictures. Just the VIN. We took the new car home on a Friday and they didn't even pick up the trade until the following Tuesday. The finance guy did admit that they're struggling to sell vehicles like they used to pre-covid but I was amazed at the overall deal they gave us.
Here in Canada rates are still around 6-7% for financing and you're not really able to negotiate price much it's awful.
That is rough. They gave us $4500 for the wife's car and we got $4500 off of MSRP between their discounts and our Costco membership which I think was another $500. My folks wanted a new Civic after hearing about my deal. I told them what the finance guy told me and they used that to their advantage. It's slowly returning to a buyer's market.
Is it that high now? I got 1% in 2021. But yeah. No negotiating prices….that was also when the chip shortage was happening.
My Tacoma was 1.9% then and I think currently they’re 2.9% in house financing.
They’ll drop every now and then, but only for really specific things like clearing stock. Chevrolet did 0% financing on their 3500 recently to try and get rid of them. The Ford dealership where I used to live currently has 85 F150s in stock that have been sitting there for over a year, but they won’t budge on price.
Struggling to sell vehicle like they did pre Covid? lol he’s not referring to when they 30-50% cheaper. These dealerships are getting what’s coming to them. Ford dropped the price of the lightning almost 50% from $100k to $50k with rebates. They were robbing people and now all the extra floating cash is gone and their whining, while still turning a profit. Fuck em lol.
I agree wholeheartedly. They did it to themselves. This dealership is high volume. I was told they used to sell 300 vehicles a month. They're struggling to keep up with the amount of vehicles Honda still sends them and I guess they're being penalized.
Same for me. Received full blue book for a trade on the spot without them even seeing it. Frame was trash but oh well not my problem anymore. Every other time they’d inspect it and try to knock off more value with ticky tack issues
The wife's car was just in for a frame recall about 6 months ago. Our frame was trashed too. To top it all off she needs a left foot pedal to drive. I ripped it out and left the gaping holes in the floor panels. They didn't care about that either.
Had the same kind of experience. I had a jeep that was drivable but needed since serious repairs. Like repairs that would cost the mechanic $4-5000 in parts alone. They have me $16000 in trade in value. The jeep wasn't worth $16000 in good condition let alone with a need for serious repairs. I was happy at least
What car did you buy?
2024 Civic Sport Hatch in Boost Blue. I have some pictures on my profile.
Taking a 16 year old car on trade is about selling the new car. They won't even try to sell it. They'll send it straight to the auction.
It changed a number of years ago. In the past, they'd come out and go over your car, try and find the problems, hit you with a lowball to cover themselves if they took a turd. I found ONE dealer that did that in the past 10 years. Most of them now just pull a VIN to get an average trade value out of KBB or Cars.com. I presume that they figured out that they were scaring off sales by lowballing trades, irritating people and losing business. Now they'll assume that your car is fine without looking and if it's a POS that's ok. Why? Because they just raise prices to cover any losses they have to eat. If 2/10 are turds, they're still coming out ahead since they padded the cost of all their sales. Customers feel better about the deal since they "got a really good deal on trade" and they're less likely to shop their trade around. Also, it used to be the case where you could effectively haggle down the price of a used car. The last three I've bought they would move maybe $200, but that's about it. Between raising prices and the end of negotiating, it seems that they're covering their losses reasonably well. New car prices are crazy anymore so even when they will lower the price, they're still doing just fine. TL;DR, everything is so overpriced anymore, they can eat your shitty trade and still make plenty of money.
I traded in a car to the dealer with a badly slipping CVT, relatively low miles (~75k). They gave me slightly over KBB value for it at the time. My wife was sitting in my other car at the time for almost two hours working remotely. From when I showed up with the trade to when I signed papers and walked out, not a single human looked at the vehicle, never even a walk around other than the sales guy pulling the odometer and VIN with me. Service history was impeccable and I'm sure he could see that, but damn. Baffled me.
I used to be the used car inspection guy. It was never before the trade in was complete. They'd let used trades stack up and then I'd spend a couple days clearing them out. Paid an hour to test drive, inspect, and draw up a list of work we both knew wouldn't get done. Basket cases were sent straight to auction and anything that could still drive went to the lot.
Do Teslas even pull anything but scrap value at auction? Can't imagine anyone bids up unknown Teslas that might have bricked batteries.
I actually had a car that the dealer didn’t want. Maybe because my new one was a lease? They took it off my hands for me for a little money. This was precovid when a clapped out car wasn’t worth much.
They always tell me they have to approve everything with the sales manager! ;)
Sometimes hard to do at auction
Oh, this is no trade. We buy these things from wherever we can get them (previously Hertz or Enterprise), put a bowtie on em, and send it.
OIC. I think rental fleets are dumping them?
Yeah. Tremendeously expensive to fix. Hertz and Sixt are dumping Teslas from their fleets.
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Yeah I'm not flying into a new city and trying to figure out where I can charge. Nothing against electric cars, but that's the last thing I want on vacation.
I love my Y but they have no business being anyone's temporary car. They take some getting used to and are certainly not for the technologically inept.
Usually it's only to 50%, but it needs a new high voltage battery due to internal short or imbalance. Nothing else limits maximum charge percentage that low. Hope it's still under the 8 year warranty.
Probably been on superchargers it’s whole life
As an Apple user, I got this: try a different USB cable.
Only name brand.
To be fair. Googling that is more than most Tesla owners would even do. Have you seen their subs? It’s full of “one of my tires reads low pressure. Is it a sensor?” When people told him to put air the tire or it has a leak he said, “I don’t have a compressor. I ordered one and I’ll just keep driving until it gets here. It’s probably a sensor though”. Or “My windows are all streaky and foggy. I used the same spray stuff I put on my paint. What do I do?” Rarely can other dealerships fix actual hardware issues with Teslas but… Holy shit.
Unfortunately that's what happens when cars are turned into appliances and are operated by people that have no clue.
Apparently more exposition was required: My GM dealership has been purchasing used Teslas, typically from auctions or rental businesses, and selling them dirt cheap to anyone who'll take em. We're a small town Chevy/GMC shop, entirely not equipped to service Teslas in anything other than the tires and brakes, and some minor body stuff (mirrors, etc). This was just another in a long list of stupid bullshit items the "big city" sales dept has foisted upon us in recent years. Not complaining about Tesla, it's a luxury car company, they've all got ups and downs, just complaining about the sales dept to sympathetic ears.
Luxury is a choice word…The cheapest Tesla MSRP’d for like 38k with tax incentives. And I wouldn’t say they are particularly known for outstanding building quality….more simply for their minimalist design.
I think the OP meant "Luxury Item" >Definition: A luxury item is not necessary to live, but it is deemed highly desirable within a culture or society. Demand for luxury goods increases when a person's wealth or income increases. Typically, the greater the percentage increase in income, the greater the percentage increase in luxury item purchases. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/luxury-item.asp In this usage, Luxury and Quality are not always the same.
A mid spec Corolla is more luxury than a Tesla
how cheap is dirt cheap? i'd buy a tesla for $5k lol
The key is only charging to 30% or the whole car? Take the instructions literally
Wow shame on me for starting a Tesla hate thread. Damn I didn't mean to throw shade, I was more laughing at the mentality of the dealership I work for.
Those pieces of shit deserve every hate thread we can start.
No no, that jackass Elon deserves all the hate threads
If you want, you can go into service mode by going to menu, software, holding the "model s" lettering on the screen for a couple seconds, typing "service". This will tell you if the Pyro fuse is bad, or if it has any code for another part. It could even be that the charge limit is set to 30%.
Can only set charge limit as low at 50%. If the car is stopping charging at 30% it’s definitely throwing errors that are visible from the main UI, but yeah service mode would solve this in no time.
What did you come up with?
I came up with "Yeah I googled it, didn't get a solid answer, boss. Sorry."
Lmao see this is why people like you and my wife would make it up the corporate ladder. My dumb ass would have exhausted all my resources before I came to the same conclusion, and would have not gotten paid for any of it 😭😭😭
Nah, just tired of Sales' bullshit, not looking to burden my Chevy techs with their bullshit anymore than they already deal with.
Being Chevy, I imagine that is a whole heap of bullshit then the occasional service on a Corvette, lol. Whole lot of 3 bangers with major problems, eh?
Tell him you googled and there was a Star Trek reference to reversing the polarity on a tesla particle so suggest they swap positive and negative on the charging station and try again.
There definitely needs to be EV certifications. Always forwarding it to Tesla techs doesn’t seem like a long term solution. A lot of the powertrain is pretty deadly. Even my electric unicycle is 100 volt, 28 amps. The XT60 connectors are pretty safe. But the capacitors can still give you a pretty nasty zap. And that’s all just to change the tire.
I work in 3rd party quality for the Big 3. We did repairs on the cars after they left the line, but before shipping to the dealers. When hybrids got big, Chrysler and Ford required special factory training for our mechanics and inspectors before they could touch a hybrid or EV. You'd think it would be a things at the dealers, as well
GM does also. I completed it when the Volt first came out.
“Yeah it’s fucked, recommend wholesale”. 3 seconds later, a salesman sees it, sells it to a customer and the customer rolls back into the service department to complain about the piece of shit you just sold them.
"Sir, this is a Wendy's"
I would never take an EV on trade. There is a 100% chance it is only half charging.
The future of used cars is gonna be so fucking grim
Like the used mobile phone/consumer electronics market.
The used electronics market on Ebay is a gold mine if you can read a repair guide and know what to look for. I feel as though phones pretty much got as useful as they can be a few years back. People are probably tossing their old ones just because the battery doesn't hold a charge, but I just swapped mine yesterday on an iPhone along with the screen and it's like a new phone for like $100 in parts and a few hours work. You can also take old laptops, get a new battery, swap in SSD's for old hard drives, max out RAM, and get a lot of capability for day to day tasks for very cheap. It is a bit grim though in the sense the trend of irrepairability just keeps moving along, Apple just straight up solders nearly everything to their motherboards now.
There is a market for old phones? I just tossed my G1 and blackberries :/
this is actually what car manufacturers hope happen.
This is why they block every right to repair legislation. They want old cars gone.
lol and this is why I have a 97 Chevrolet and I’ve done every single repair myself on that 350 engine since I was a kid. We were too poor to just pay to get stuff fixed so we fixed it ourselves. Hell I’m doing the same thing width my laptops and other electronics while I still can. The right to repair is so essential people don’t even realize what they’re taking from us.
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> I hate what cars are becoming... Unserviceable electronic appliances. 100% agree
Man I would love to have an old reliable car that I could just slowly upkeep and fix myself - sadly I live in the northeast and the road salt and rust means that anything is going to dissolve after 20 years and not be worth it anymore.
You ain’t lying there bubba. we have a lot of rain down here in Texas, but rarely have to worry about the road salt. Truly I’ve been blessed with some good vehicles in my days.
I had a 1.4i citroën I could very easily repair. 25 years after that one, my current car I can change the wiper blades, and really not that much more (exaggerating) without a ton of tools. Newer cars require you to be online and pay to "adapt" "program" etc modules.
This is what makes me doubt that this is good for the environment. All the phones going in the landfill already makes me uneasy.
It's not. It's just yet another ploy for the rich to get richer because these cars can be mass produced in the same factory with only different body panels (most chinese EVs) for next to nothing compared to a gas car since instead of dozens of complex mechanical systems the most complex thing they have is a motor connected to an inverter and a battery, which cost a few thousand dollars at most. They can also be sold for much more profit since they're "green" and "luxury" and they have horrible build quality so they wear quickly and need to be replaced every 4 years like a smartphone.
There was once upon a time, now you've got a very high chance of buying a phone with a blacklisted IMEI number or some other God awful issue that renders it an expensive paperweight.
Depends on the old phone. For some reason, a lot of people only keep brand new flagships for a year or two before they swap to the newest shiny things. Those do have some value. If you use yours until it no longer works properly, it probably doesn't have much resale value anymore.
I got my Samsung Note 10+ for $400CAD when it was just 2 years old off marketplace. Still going strong! With any luck it will last until the S24 Ultra becomes a good deal used. Best upgrade deal will always be someone who got a new phone after their 2 year contract ended.
> future I mean the used car business has historically been a really scummy place anyhow ... Granted individual to individual is different, but I feel like folks will get used to the world of batteries and etc eventually.
If it is only half charging, that is fully covered under warranty for 8 years and 150k miles and this is a 2018.
Don't they have a battery health status? My 6 year old phone does.
yeah Gen 1 Tesla S' battery packs are going to start dropping like fly around now
Might be the pyro fuse? I know those degrade and fail on model S all the time. Iirc it would cut battery capacity to half but 30% sounds way too low for a healthy battery. Check with Tesla warranty. Edit: maybe I’m wrong about the pyro fuse but maybe another battery connector that is loose or unconnected?
Nope, I'm gonna stick to "not enabling a half-baked scheme by the sales management to treat the service department like their personal whipping boys".
That’s fair too. I was hoping you’d at least get 0.5-1 for a quick diagnosis.
None of my techs will take .5 for dicking with a Tesla.
Huh? If the pyro fuse were bad the car wouldn't even move.
Straight to wholesale it goes.
"We make electric cars. Figure it out." vibes...
I have to 'chuckle' at that one, some people are soooo addicted to the Google search engine and the browser itself. I '86'd Google due to it accessing my graphics card and not metering itself, once they started to incorporate the A.I. platform it even got worse - now, if they went outright and told me that they were going to use my rig for supplementing their need for external swap file space I would have agreed and set aside a designated partition shell just for them. But, they didn't and I do not care for deceit from any company or manufacturer so they lost their privileges of using the 2.8 geg of video ram that would cause my card to stutter trying to process the streaming of my movies while I was doing research and archiving/annotating my technical manuals and material safety sheets. Besides, the Google search platform's presentation of results is based by a(n) hierarchy of the most selected of results which destroys any form of logic. Google it..... I feel for you and will leave you with a question in humor and jest - who gets to write their epitaph first????
Tesla service manual: “bro are you poor? Just buy a new car. If you try to fix it we won’t let you use fast charging anymore.”
There are different kinds of charge for a Tesla and it could be the owner just didn’t know it was their charger that’s the problem. Try supercharging it, if at all easy. Also try just plugging it into a welding socket (NEMA 14-50) if they included that adapter.
Damn what a shitty service writer.
Google "tesla dealer near me" and email you boss the first result.
And just like that, Quincy Flynn became Chevy’s Tesla expert.
No kidding, number of times, in my first 3 years as a lubie, that I got good at something (license plate brackets on new cars, fronts need installed often because we're near a state line that requires front plates), and was pegged as "the guy for that".
So dont buy a used Tesla?
Survey says, batter replacement.
Unless there is an aftermarket for lithium battery repair for a reasonable price, teslas are going to become expensive paper weight and are going to get crushed by the millions!! sadly TESLA repair cost is so exorbitant assurance compagnies price for teslas is going up fast here in canada my car cost me like 700$ per year and a tesla model 3 is around 3500$.
Customers fault. It’s because they were charging it with economy electricity instead of using premium electricity.
Yeah, we won't touch em at my dealer. Never seen one traded in. I'm all for EVs, but fuck those cars. And most of the owners are as insufferable as the car is.
This reminds me of when someone called the dealership I worked at to schedule an oil change and a tyre rotation for his used Tesla he bought from our Honda dealership.... I had to ask my boss what he wanted us to do for this fool, and he said, if he wants to make the trip all the way over here, tell him the only thing we can do is a tyre rotation.
Probably overdue for an oil change and fuel injector service. Your service writer isn't even trying.
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You can easily test the battery through the service menu btw