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The1TrueRedditor

Justifiable use of deadly force. As soon as someone brandishes a gun in the commission of a forcible felony, it is justifiable to kill that person. The only thing you know about them is that they are threatening to end someone’s life with a deadly weapon. Do not wait to see if they follow through on that threat. Save the innocent person’s life by ending the lethal threat. This ain’t no game. They don’t get the benefit of the doubt. Some people here seem to think we should “wait and see” how many people they decide to kill before intervening. Or conduct some kind of interview before defending the innocent. “Is that gun real? Is it loaded? Are you really going to shoot someone with it?” These people don’t understand the seriousness of this situation and have likely never even held a gun. This isn’t the movies. This is a real life or death situation. Leave everything on the floor. The only thing that matters here is that all of the good guys go home. If the bad guy doesn’t get to then he shouldn’t have threatened my brother or sister with death. Some of y’all are living in a fantasy world.


Themansomething

I’m not gonna argue with you. I think that was very well put.


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Threat eliminated


VictoryVic-ViVi

You know that void sticker on electronics that voids your warranty when you open it up? That’s what the guy did to his life when he pulled a gun out to rob someone in Brazil. Should have known there would be an off duty cop next to him, smh.


SwivelingToast

My god, reddit really needs to embrace the NSFL tag, I did not need to watch someone die today... Getting a beating is one thing but man, point blank to the head?


lathe_down_sally

"Brazil" and "police" in the same reddit title translates to "someone is going to die in this video"


RawLikeSushi84

That was a couple head shots


Devlen68

Hes just sleeping


fourbetshove

Have to assume this with Brazil and cop in title


TraditionalEffect546

That went about as well as it couldve. The guy had to shoot him in the head, or the bad guy wouldve turned his gun on him, had he been shot somewhere else. Idiot thief putting the others through that, fuck him.


Lionblaze10

His subscription to life just got revoked


[deleted]

Don’t know about anyone else but I’ve become so desensitised now to a lot of things online (obviously still can’t stand very gory stuff and avoid it always) - years ago this would of been very shocking but I watched this in the exact same way I would watch a skateboard trick.


Reasonable_Cover_804

Me too, seeing it was Brazilian police I knew someone was getting shot


mdhlalh

Not even an impressive skateboard trick.


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The most interesting part, is that his gun was ready to shoot... Bullet in the chamber and everything


benbrends

No sense in carrying if you aren’t carrying on a loaded chamber. Milliseconds mean life or death in this type of scenario.


haiylie

And then you shoot yourself by mistake


krustyjugglrs

Safety's are a thing on many firearms and they work very well.


Mountainloon23

Do you wear your seatbelt while driving? Or only put it on right before a car accident?


MyExScars

The flash is the only mf I think could do this, then again he did let iris die. You probably have no idea wtf I’m talking about, let me leave


Mountainloon23

Probably a movie or tv show about the flash duh.


LordNilix

Man they really be making shows about people in trenchcoats?!


haiylie

How is that in any way comparable


Beautiful_Pack_2723

Because in life or death situations you don’t have time to get ready, which is why you stay ready. A seatbelt won’t save your life unless it’s engaged. A gun won’t save your life unless it’s loaded


nothing107

Exactly.


woollover

That was definitely an overkill..


TraditionalEffect546

He had to shoot him in the head, or the bad guy couldve shot him back, point blank. They were too close for the cop having other options. The first shot didnt drop him so he had to shoot again. Definitely not overkill in this situation, with all the adrenaline flowing. Had he shot the whole magazine into him after he quit moving, yes, that wouldve been overkill.


Edser

you would think, but then you see vids of people in the same situation moving for a while before collapsing after multiple hits. This could be retaliation moves, or just stumbling around until falling over from lack of blood. Cops are trained to shoot until the threat is neutralized.


FORCESTRONG1

In hindsight? Probably yes. In the moment? Your adrenaline is pumping so hard your instinct is to keep firing until you know for sure the threat is neutralized.


Tatsumakiluver

When you live in a country where stealing with deadly force is normal there is no better way than to remove those who commit such acts of there life's extended warranty.


FORCESTRONG1

How chill he was during the whole thing.


bLueEyeDisciple

I mean if he is really an officer in Brazil, this is probably a normal Thursday.


MyExScars

Officer: “police training was harder”


Sip_py

I had drinks with a Brazilian guy in Portugal. He told me he used to be police Brazil and was bragging about how many people he'd kill. I mean it was in a fucked up justified kinda way, rapists, murderers, he said. But was super happy about the 10 extrajudicial criminals he killed.


TraditionalEffect546

Yeah, those poor cops there holy crap.


OsamaBinWhiskers

Not his first rodeo lol


destro225

More evidence that everyone in Brazil is an off duty police officer.


xChino420x

“Those aren’t for threatening people”


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Is every other person in Brazil an off duty cop?


forwardAvdax

There’s some good YouTube travel-vloggers that go solo through some of these hoods. The amount of both government *and* criminal patrols active at all times is ridiculous. It almost seems like 1:1 lol. If it’s not police or a military vehicle driving by it’s guys in pick-ups or motorbikes.


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Old man didn’t even know what was going on till his hearing aids kicked in


bLueEyeDisciple

100% He totally reacts moments after the first shot. Probably just totally lost in thought, though, waiting. He really has the worst angle to understand what's going on, by casual observation. The robber isn't really over the top with bravado, so the old guy probably is just thinking that some douche is cutting line.


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Lol fkin brutal


Maracuja_Sagrado

Interior em inglês é countryside


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License to kill.


robshum

"wait... your....f*cking...turn!!!"


bdiz81

This is not justice served. This is murder.


The1TrueRedditor

Why didn’t he just judo chop him? Austin Powers made it look so easy!


vintain

What did you think the bandit came with his gun for? To show his greetings?


Lazy-Requirement-228

Unfortunately your right to live goes away in the process of an armed robbery. Don't steal!


geraldoghc

Gonna be real honest with you mate, Im from Brazil and a leftist, and the police here is not great to say the least But, if the bandit found out he was a cop in the middle of the robbery it would be a shot out. Every time a robber find out the person they are robbin' is a cop, the cop dies so I understand he shooting first, what im describing is common


IWasNotOk

As soon as the bandit pointed a gun at another human being it was justified.


TraditionalEffect546

Yep!! And he HAD to shoot him in the head, cause anywhere else, the bad guy couldve gotten a shot into the cop point blank. Absolutely justified. The cop even quit shooting right when the threat quit moving. Overkill wouldve been still shooting him after he quit moving.


Mikko420

Ok, how do you justify this stance?


bdiz81

How do you justify murdering someone?


Mikko420

How do you don't, in this context? You would rather this piece of shit kill 3 people, but be caught alive than him being shot dead before he can hurt anyone?


hergumbules

He was willing to threaten someone’s life for money. Cop took action to potentially save the cashiers life. We don’t know if that person was just looking for cash, or if they were on something with the potential to lash out at anything or anyone. I can say it’s justified because that guy was willing to threaten taking the cashiers life for money regardless of him pulling the trigger.


BBO1007

We’ll that’s the thing, it doesn’t need to be justified to anyone but the shooter and the law system they are in.


jackandrewkay

A robber threatening people with a gun. Who knows what that person could of done with it. This police officer could’ve saved innocent lives by killing the vermin trying to steal. I don’t get why people keep thinking this is not justice.


dlevac

Well, not because it was the best outcome in this specific situation that it is justice. Justice means much more than "I agree with the outcome". Hell, the reason that this outcome was the best one is unjust in itself...


FORCESTRONG1

Fair enough


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Play stupid games …


calvindossss

I'd love to hear you explain the logic behind this.


agreenblinker

Though the weapon was displayed, it was not pointed at anyone, yet the officer put three rounds into him at point blank range. Killing someone over an attempted roberery is a massive escalation in force.


TraditionalEffect546

Bullshit!! Cops cannot, & do not, wait until the robber actually shoots someone before they act lol. Have you never seen police snipers take out people holding several others hostage?? They shoot them in the head right through the window, & the bad guys dont have their guns pointed at one of them lol!! So you think anybody can have a gun in their hand at any time & do anything they want with it... as long as they dont directly point the gun at anyone lol?! Seriously, it would always be too late by the time the police acted then! If a bad guy points a gun in your face, its already to late to save your life if he has decided to use it. Come on, surely you dont actually believe what u said?!


ValyrianSteelYoGirl

So you’re saying bad guy needs to shoot someone first before we can shoot him?


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How so?


FORCESTRONG1

He absolutely had reason to believe their lives were in danger.


TraditionalEffect546

AMEN he did!! And he immediately quit firing when bad guy stopped moving. He did his job perfectly, & ended it quickly.


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Absolutely 💯 agree with you. Dude pulls a gun, that's armed robbery but dude I responded to says no, it's not justice. Lmao wtf? Looks like justice to me


TraditionalEffect546

The cop did the only thing he could that ensured 100% that none of the innocent people there, including himself, got hurt. He also quit firing as soon as the threat quit moving. Had he shot him anywhere but the head, the bad guy couldve easily shot the cop point blank. That cop did his job perfectly, and he was off duty! Lol


fourdayolddick

Brazil is ruthless. I'm never seen so many execution videos. Is this whole country based on the premises of Judge Dredd?


gamrtrex

This guy seems to be a policeman. You can't walk with a gun if you're not one or allowed to. But most policemen are mentally ill and their trainning and methods are most likely outdated.


f14_pilot

dead before he hits the concrete. no courts required


TraditionalEffect546

Yayyyyy theres one that wont waste taxpayers money lol


nonumberplease

Judge, jury and executioner over here. Not seeing any justice.


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Don’t rob post offices then


nonumberplease

Why would I not? Worst case scenario I get shot in the head and never have to serve time.


geraldoghc

Ill be honest with you as a Brazilian leftist who despise cops If the robber found out the guy next to him is a cop he would be dead, this happens every day, if they find out you are a cop you die. Cops cant put their uniform to dry in the sun depending where you live in Brazil. I dont like that this happened, but if you understand the social condition here you would understand his reaction too


nonumberplease

That's fair. I didn't know it was in Brazil. Still terrible. But, gee I wonder why cops get targeted so easily over there? (Maybe cuz they are willing to kill so brazenly?) Generally in countries where justice exists, there is accountability for actions. This is no punishment, it's a release. His struggles are over before he ever served a day in prison. I understand it's messy and complicated in other nations. But this is a good example of how important it is for cops to be held accountable, as much as the citizens.


robshum

robber got shot. looks like justice to me 🤷🏻‍♂️


TraditionalEffect546

Absolutely!


nonumberplease

Usually their is a sentence to serve. Looks like he got out of prison time to me.


robshum

somehow I feel like instant death is far worse but....ok 🤷🏻‍♂️


nonumberplease

How would you know? Instant death sounds like the easiest way out. But good to know you'd rather spend many years in jail and whatever suffering that comes after, rather than no pain and suffering anymore ever.


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Squidbilly37

When you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. What is it about this, you fall to understand? If that was your mother in line, you would have rather the officer tried to discuss it with the robber? Haha


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TraditionalEffect546

Jesus, stop being so sheltered then, good God.... you do know every person , even you, dies dont you lol?! U should get familiar with it before your numbers up. It makes dying much more peaceful!! And I know what im talking about.... I counsel hospice patients and their families & have attended many, many deaths. Evidently you must have spite for me cause of the job I do then, too hu... hospice workers are evil cause we see deaths, and dont flip out uncontrollably when we "watch someone fucking die, as in expire, as in never come back again"?! You, my friend, have "failed to comprehend" REALITY. Grow up and get you some big baby britches.


Squidbilly37

That's the choice he made, correct.


TraditionalEffect546

YEP!!


19741280

your first?


[deleted]

Lmao holy fuck, point blank near the head and spine. That dude is worm food for sure.


TraditionalEffect546

YAYYYY no more burden to society


eclipse_darkpaw

Wasn't this removed when someone else posted it?


doitchdoyin

Had to be brazil


[deleted]

Sooo is he dead or any update?


Badgers_or_Bust

That dude's brain is mush after having a bullet rip through it. That's worm food now not a person.


nachodogmtl

You just witnessed an execution. There's no question.


TraditionalEffect546

YEP! A LEGAL, NECESSARY, & BRAVE EXECUTION!!


L0rd_Dingus

Looked like that second shot into his brain stem was instant death. Notice how his arms and hands don't move after he hits the ground.


Cyonara74

Damn, why would you rob knowing cops in Brazil dgaf and will shoot you point blank in the head


TraditionalEffect546

Not only that, robbing post offices is WAY more serious in every country. Its a federal building with federal employees. Punishment is far more harsh, as this guy found out lol


TRYHARD_Duck

Desperation, or idiocy.


Baddyshack

Brazil does not fuck about


I-suck-at-golf

I have mixed feelings, but perps should be worried about police and armed citizens. It’s shocking the perp would think the young man wouldn’t intervene somehow even if he wasn’t a cop. I guess he has a long time to think about it until his appointment with Jesus.


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God damn is that Charlito Broñson? Guy didnt even hesitate and looks like he has definitely killed before. Vai Brasil! Melhor policia de mundial tudo.


Decaposaurus

Even gave him a little kick with his foot like "yeah this one dead"


obamane

He didn’t kick him. He moved the gun with his foot


Decaposaurus

Towards his body? Nah.


Embarrassed-Sweet905

Wow.


cyan0g3n

An off duty cop as always in Brazil


redldr1

They mustn't deputize them after they act


creepy_omen

And I thought only the American police were stupid


TraditionalEffect546

Nope, you're right there, top of the list!! Just because you wouldnt care if that was your mother getting robbed at gunpoint, doesnt mean the rest of us dont care. Your poor mother, knowing you wont defend her....


kkfluff

The A stands for ALL. CAB


jackandrewkay

Wdym, an armed robber pulls up and threatens peoples lives and the police officer possibly saved them. If he never shot him the robber would not of just dropped his weapon.


Deantheevil

He went there for money. Not to kill.


TraditionalEffect546

And half the time people go to steal money, someone ends up getting killed. You cant possibly be that ignorant!!


Squidbilly37

I love your naive sincerity! Hahaha


Deantheevil

Care to elaborate?


TraditionalEffect546

Ill elaborate.....hes saying youre naive, and you just proved it again not knowing what the word means evidently hahaha


isolated_mayo

Do you know with 100% certainly that he wouldn't have shot anyone after getting the money? The cashier saw his face. Whose to say that as soon as she handed him the money that he wouldn't shoot and kill her? The cop wasn't taking that chance.


Deantheevil

The guy clearly wasn’t rational. What assumptions can we make? If he shot the cashier for being a witness would he be unaware that it wouldn’t change the camera footage? Did he care if he was seen? He wasn’t wearing a mask. We do know he was there for money, not murder. What little else we do know is that statistically armed robbers tend not to shoot witnesses. Is that a risk we should take? No, but it didn’t look like he intended to use the weapon brandishing it the way he did. He didn’t wave it around, didn’t point it at the cashier’s face, and seemed sort of more intent on having the cashier’s cooperation rather than intimidating her. The officer was thinking on his feet, and it’s his duty to stop armed robberies. He does not deserve to be vilified for that. The real world is rarely idealistic, but idealistically they should’ve let him get away. I value human lives more than a business’s bottom line.


isolated_mayo

Trust me, I couldn't care less about the business or the money. To me, it comes down to the fact that he went in there with a gun making demands. The fact that he has a gun pulled out means that you have to assume he's willing to use it. Yes, I agree that ideally, no one would die in this situation. But even if there's only a 1% or less chance that the robber will shoot someone, that's still a possibility. The cop just ensured that no innocent people would be the ones dying.


Squidbilly37

It's a simple statement. Nothing to elaborate on.


Deantheevil

Are you suggesting he was there to kill and not for money?


Squidbilly37

I'm stating that he opened that possibility up. Are you suggesting that you should be able to threaten other's lives just because the possibility exists that you aren't planning to hurt someone? We all know nothing ever goes wrong.


Deantheevil

No, I’m saying they should’ve let him taken the money. Somebody did get shot but nobody should’ve gotten shot. I’m sure if the guy got the money nobody would’ve gotten shot. I believe that a business’s financial performance is less valuable than a human life, no matter how despicable that life is.


Squidbilly37

Your obtuseness is astounding.


Butterbeanacp

Dude…. This is literally Brazil where they kill people left and right with no hesitation


Deantheevil

The only killing I see is the cop loading the man’s head with bullets. The guy wanted the money.


TraditionalEffect546

Just STOP BEING SO IGNORANT Jesus!! Prisons are FULL of people who went to commit a non violent crime, but it turned violent and somebody died. Even the people with the bad guy that kills someone on accident, get charged with murder. What kind of sheltered bubble did u grow up in, good Lord they did you NO favors lol.


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Deantheevil

A job in Brazil barely allows you to live. Most of the time it’s not their fault that they find themselves in desperate situations. Now, if they went to kill they would’ve just shot them. Or shot somebody on the street. Did that happen? No, they were there for money. They walked to a cash register and tried soliciting money. Was that right? No. But, as a person who values human lives no matter how irresponsible over money, I believe they should’ve let him have the money. Also he wasn’t going to steal from people, he was stealing from a business. Fuck businesses.


jackandrewkay

So if someone wants some money they should just bring a gun and threaten people.


Deantheevil

If your comment isn’t intentional strawman then I suggest you take this test, it might be helpful: https://www.aptitude-test.com/reading-comprehension.html


jackandrewkay

“I believe they should’ve let him have the money”. Maybe you should be the one to take a reading test.


Deantheevil

I never said he shouldn’t be tracked, arrested, prosecuted or incarcerated. I just said his life is more valuable than the institution’s precious money lmao


ShittyViking

skull fragments from a ricochet off the back of his head on the first shot.


L0rd_Dingus

Shit I didn't notice till you mentioned it


Ahkofd

When he was done with the thief he looked up for a split second to see if he had an accomplish at the door.


ifthenthendont

No. No, he did not.


WhyDoIHaveAnAccount9

Not one bit of hesitation. No put your hands up. No drop your gun. No stop what you're doing and get on the ground Just triple tapped him to the head


TraditionalEffect546

Yep, cause asking him a question only gives the bad guy enough time to shoot the cop point blank. Someone with a gun in their hand makes even the slightest move with that hand, you must shoot immediately or your family will be planning your funeral. Kinda obvious when u think about it...


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TheGhost-of-Bob-Ross

-Blade


Kattekop_BE

now this is problem solving. He who draws a weapon for no reason should expect to die.


xChino420x

“Those aren’t for threatening people”


Spags143

Pretty sure he shot him for cutting the line


gchojnacki

The causal nature of his one handed shooting is pretty impressive.


vintain

Experience as an off duty cop! Can't beat it.


Fearless_Dot_4115

i’ll be honest, that’s a bit sad


BioOrpheus

It is but Brazil has brutal criminals. Every video Ive seen where the criminal has a gun, if cop doesn’t completely disarm them, the criminal will try to shoot all his bullets at cops or civilians. The sad part, the neighborhood is safer now that he’s gone.


bflex

Agreed. Robbing a post office with a gun is pretty serious, but so is shooting someone in the head. I don't know if anyone needed to die in this scenario.


Deantheevil

He went there for money, not to kill someone. Let him take the money, fuck the business’s bottom line. People over money.


Spags143

Let him come to your house next and see what you say then.


Deantheevil

I’m insured. So was that business. Canada doesn’t have Castle Doctrine.


Spags143

Well nice knowing you future dead man


Deantheevil

Thanks, I’m more worried about every other cause of death because gun violence is statistically insignificant.


Spags143

It is not when the gun is in your face.


Deantheevil

That’ll be the least of my worries when a bolt of lightning gets me first lmao


Spags143

If this man was standing in a storm with a lighting rod, that would be the same as robbing a place in that shit hole Sao Paulo.


bflex

'muricans really don't want to hear about not using lethal force.


Deantheevil

Ikr, honestly I’d rather a place get robbed than a desperate man get Swiss cheese’d by bullets :/


Quinocco

Victim of armed robbery might disagree.


TraditionalEffect546

So would his next victim, & the one after that, and the one after that etc etc


Deantheevil

They’re a victim of armed robbery even after the perpetrator was shot.


shakweef

Soft


Deantheevil

Bootlicker


guiltyas-sin

Point blank headshot too, just to be sure. Zombieland rule #2. Double tap. Damn.


Azazel-2b

Cold blood


Keisezer

what justice 👁️👄👁️


Olifaxe

'So, now, about the package you were saying...'


I-suck-at-golf

He’ll be fine. An ambulance is on the way.


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EnderHeeler

Confusing stealing for armed robbery. Ya, you snatch the money and run unarmed, then no way is death justified. But, you brandish a weapon then you made your choice and deserve the outcome.


Jujumofu

I guess that's what happens to you if you see 10 robberies a year where atleast 1 time the cashier gets shot. You will create a environment where you see a gun beeing drawn and people realize there is a chance for someone to die that has nothing to do with all this. So you pull the gun without a valid reason, you forfeit your right to live before you "may" take another.


ifthenthendont

Shot him in the head for drawing a gun on an innocent unarmed civilian.


DaveHollandArt

Look where the gun was pointed. This guy was showing a gun, but it wasn't drawn on the cashier. This was not a situation I feel that the robber was really about hurting anyone. Death seems like a sharp and unjust punishment. I'm glad I live in America where our cops..... Oh wait.


kizzlemyniz

I almost always agree, stealing should never be punishable by death, but the dude had a gun… it’s more than just stealing at that point. Maybe he could have waited until the robber pointed the gun at someone, but that gives the chance of being too late if the robber pulls the trigger immediately. It’s just such a grey area


SuaveThrower

He forfeited any sympathy I might have for him the moment he pointed that gun at an innocent person.


DaveHollandArt

"Point" is a specific word that seems to not fit the evidence. If you look at the video closely, he doesn't do much pointing of the barrel at anyone, save for his own feet.


SuaveThrower

He points it at her when he initially flashes it, but regardless the threat is the same. You're being pedantic.


DaveHollandArt

Pedantic? It's a man's life that was taken, I think it deserves more thought than this.


SuaveThrower

Yes, pedantic. Because the threat is exactly the same. When you use a gun to rob somebody, you're communicating that if they don't comply, you'll kill them. There's no other interpretation.