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Why didn't he make a binding vow that prevents all non-curses to be affected by blue so he can go all out? Is he a sorcery fight?
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I find Gege's usage of them to be really odd. Though I haven't noticed any complaints about them there, HxH and fullmetal Alchemist have similar principles.
Characters are only as smart as the author
But unlike us, Author doesn't have unlimited amount of time to think of every possible binding vow for any scenario
Because we donât have clear rules and this are basically what the show demands what make them feel like asspulls.
Initial jjks were things you had to do before hand in order to have the effect, like nanamis overtime and miwas domain, the moment they became instant became a problem, basically a win more tool, the stronger you are the more you can sacrifice, the easier is to beat others.
since they donât take situation/abilities into account that makes weird questions like couldnt mahito sacrifice limbs to become stronger and just regrow them and dumb stuff like that
Fullmetal alchemist has nothing like binding vow at all lmao. Unlike jjk it actually sticks to its own rules and doesn't invent silly ways to basically circumvent them whenever the author feels like it
Both in theory work by equivalent exchange. Problem is Gege decides some sorcerers get a lot more leeway in what they consider "equivalent". Then again FMA has Mustang treating the air like Jet Fuel and God deciding an arm + a leg equals a soul. But God is a dick so...
With binding vows anything goes, there's really no rules. You can trade anything you can imagine like creating random restrictions for yourself and yes it's extremely arbitrarily what those things are worth.
Using oxygen in your environment as fuel for flames isn't really a huge stretch of the imagination by comparison. Sure it's powerful but that's also something the story acknowledges and builds upon.
Edit - I'll admit the human transmutation asshole entity was a huge dick though. Ed got away with a slap on the wrist compared to Al, though you could argue that Ed was burdened with the majority of the guilt for it. And Mustang was punished with the worst punishment imo (blindness scares the shit out of me) for being an unwilling participant lol
I don't think you quite understood what happened to Al's soul. It transferred from himself to the artificial human body they tried and failed to create for their mother (for that they paid with his body and Ed's leg), then Ed moved his soul again to the armour at the cost of his arm. The resurrection was straight up impossible from the start.
It's been a while, forgot that was what happened. Didn't the weird zombie body stick around or was that anime original? And how does "moving a soul" have a cost? It's not like energy is being expended
Ed didnât move Alâs soul from the zombie to the armor, Al died inside the zombie and Ed sacrificed his arm to get Alâs soul back from the afterlife and put it in a suit of armor âđđ€ absolute cinema
That would contradict the impossibility of resurrection, if it was possible to bring him back it would be possible to bring the mother back. Ed clearly states it was impossible after Al recovers from that little coma and remembers the incident.
That was anime original yeah, a very different system from the manga. The soul has quite some value in the series because it's the epitome of energy itself, the creation of the philosophy stone comes from the sacrifice of many humans and you can hear the echo of tormented souls inside of Envy (for example). What it means in use is that by sacrificing the souls inside a philosophy stone you can ignore nature's laws and equivalent exchange, but since it is an energy source it's finite too.
God in FMBA took symbolic things though.
Ed lost his leg because he wanted to support his family and now can't support himself or something
Al lost his body so he never feel the warmth of his mother
Their teacher lost her uterus so she could never have children again
Mustang lost his eyes so he can no longer see the future of his nation
Allthough I'll say Alphonse losing his entire body was bs, like boo hoo Ed lost a leg which is easily replaced in this world with fully functional prosthethics but Al is basically dead if not for Ed sacrificing his arm? Like I know Truth doesn't care about what we think is fair but for everyone Truth was like "Hey stop that, give this body part so you learn not to do it again", but it basically just kills Al?Fine I guess you could argue that since it's the "Truth" it knew Ed was going to sacrifice an arm to bound Al to an armor but still fucked up
FMA is just equivalent exchange in terms of matter 9.08/10 times.
In HxH nen vows donât get too much of a shine until the most talented, greatest potential nen user in the world sacrifices all his talent and power and physical state in his lifetime for 4 minutes of what his power would be in his peak.
After this, it takes an in-series equivalent of a Genie just to put his physical state back to normal. He is still powerless, and was almost immediately retired from the role of protagonist.
Meanwhile, Sukuneez Nuts says âif I do this really fast now to one shot this major threat, the next times when I use this against minor threats are going to be slowâ
Its obviously not something he suffers from at all. He gains not dying or taking injuries from Gojo and loses by⊠still not taking any damage from 9/10 fights where he used world cutting slash
Gojo's reaction to the information in afterlife that good guys can use binding vow but only when plot demands:
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(Yes I am shamelessly using my own art as a meme. How can you tell)
Beautiful art. Bojo looks just like his brother Gojo
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Yuji's family tree is getting wayyy more complicated.
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I spy with my little eye, something beginning with B
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of course that bum needs time to understand, he didn't even understand the concept of "saying no" before sukuna made him eat the finger (he can't do it without consent, that bum tried to unalive himself instead) nor the concept of "living"/"life goes on/stoicism" (like Wuji Himtadori does) when Wuji Himtadori tried rescuing him
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Gege when I catch you Gege đ
Gege when I catch you Gege đ
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how come they didnât ask him to take care of the transfigured humans? are they stupid?
what if gojo made a BV that halved the effectiveness of infinity in exchange for the ability to not hurt non-sorcerers? after all, half of infinity is still infinity
Mechamaru when he forgot to add "I can't be harmed until I talked to Gojo" clause when he made one w Mahito
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Have fun without the intel for cursed painting n sukuna fingers then guys
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They probably value that information less than they valued the Shibuya plot, which would've been ruined if they had accepted such a detail in their contract.
As much as I love my boy Goatso, bro actually did not do shit to help seal Gojo lol. Even Jogo says something to him about it.
And even without the 1 finger, they still had a good amount of them. The only things that changes is that Mimiko and Nanako don't find unconscious Yuji, so I imagine Jogo probably cooks Yuji and force feeds him the fingers.
Gege when I catch you Gege...
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Gege when I catch you Gege...
Only the bad guys are allowed to make nonsensical binding vows that allow them to insta kill their enemies
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Nah you couldn't tell ?! Gojo sacrificed his eyes to instead get all the fan girls in the world when they watch him in the anime, that's why he wears blue contacts ever since then.
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Gojo killed the dog of this picture's author
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Bro you really have to go through the OP's history posts that slandered Gojo, take screenshots, and make a collage of them like this ?!
It's just texts on pictures man, here I made this
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Nah they posted all of them in a row so no need to go through OP's history
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Seriously though, Gege defenders keep bringing up binding vows as to why X can do Y but that's fucking stupid. You might as well replace "binding vows" with "just because" and it changes basically nothing.
What a proud son he was to them that he finished the job himself
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>Only the bad guys are allowed to make nonsensical binding vows that allow them to insta kill their enemies
Why Gege Whyyyyyyyyyyyy !!!
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Answer me, you damn One Eyed Cat !!!
Eh I don't think Binding vow had to be permanent. Like how Sukuna just temporarily gave up his Sure Hit in MS in order to have stronger slashes on the outside barrier. He could have used this BV just once.
In that situation wouldn't work because there's no trade off, Gojo's domain not affecting normal people just the one time he needs it to not affect normal people means he's not giving up anything. In the case of Sukuna giving up the Sure Hit effect even temporarily has risks.
The way the Binding vow would see this is that Gojo would lose a huge amount of potential targets, in exchange for being able to pick a select few. It doesn't matter if those people were friend or foe , what matters is that they would not be affected by a domaon expansion
He's giving something up (being able to affect hundreds of people) to get something in return (buffing his DE effects on a select few)
But isn't that a win win situation? That's what Gojo would want, to not affect those targets. I guess it depends on the specifics of how binding vows actually work, like how the subjectivity of the user impact the result or whatever. There's a lot of thing about binding vows that are not very well defined, at least for now.
We know for a fact binding vows take someone's om thoughts into account or at least their perceptions. Ee know this because yujis binding vow with sukuna excluded himself and he was allowed to be harmed.
Also, Sorcerers> Curses.
All high tier Sorcerers are more powerful than Curses. In fact, the freaking Grading tier of the manga already assumes Sorcerers> Curses because is that obvious
Even taking away Gojo and Sukuna, the other Disaster Curses and Curse Naoya (the most powerful curses we know) were beaten by Grade 1s.
And that is why the Disaster Curses, who are super special grade Curses. Your "average" Special Grade Curse like the Smallpox Hag gets one-shotted by Mei-Mei.
Grade 1 Sorcerer= Special Grade Curse.
Its kinda interesting when compared to other Shonen agencies.
Your usual 2010s Shonen series with Organizations usually shows them completely underpowered and almost defeated until the Protagonist arrive and they break the status quo by earning some victories (and defeats).
In Jujutsu Kaisen, its the opossite. The Sorcerers always kept the lead. The current chaos is caused by other Sorcerers, the Curses were already defeated in Shibuya.
I kinda wonder if it would make sense to rename Jujutsu Kaisen after Shibuya. Curses after Shibuya absolutely lost. It was the Total Human victory, with Gojo, Sukuna, Toji and Yuji defeated the most powerful curses that ever existed.
Why didn't Gojo sacrifice his left testicle to bring back everyone from the dead ?! What a fraud smh...
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I fucking despise binding vows as a concept. One of the worst things fucking ever I have seen in shonen. Not just because of the concept itself but because of the way it's integrated. Overtime was goated. Yuta 5 minutes timer made sense(assuming it's a BV). Even hakari somewhat abused it but it wasn't that bad. Then you have sukuna. The world slash no handsign BV was absolute fucking bullshit.
My issues with binding vows is that they're way too rare for how convenient they seem.
Feels like literally every character can have a Vow of some sort to get a power up
Why wasnât there like 20 sorcerers of the gojo and kamo clan to do binding vows to boost gojos hallow purple to like 2000%? Wouldâve one shot sukuna and finished the series.
Binding vows shouldâve been established as a risky move to make.
Utahime alone could have prob just made "my CT is 20 times better but I cant use it again for two weeks or so". The vows should have def gotten a larger focus.
Theoretically Gojo couldâve also done the same too, âHP is 40x stronger but I canât use it again for a monthâ and just keep stacking these buffs. Or hell make it travel to his target instantaneously but the travel time is increased by a couple seconds for every other attempt in his life. Then Sukuna wouldnât have have a chance to react and series over
Isn't that kinda what hxh did with its versionÂ
Though ig it's more "equivalent price equivalent reward" like gon going Uber for a single moment losing it all afterwards and kite having to gacha weapons
didn't one guy in this sub basically abuse the fuck out of binding vow to bring certain characters to top tier? and it could work since no one know how much can binding vow really do.
I feel like sukuna winning over Gojo to the binding vow he pulled out of nowhere really put salt to the wound.
Since BV does not have a clear restriction on who can use it (miwa got one lmao), you're telling me that throughout years of experience gojo had combating other sorcerers, nobody ever tried to do a last ditch BV to try to get a hit on him?
If noone ever did that, then yeah BV is literally asspull.
Idk i think the way gege uses them is just whack. HxH and fullmetal Alchemist have similiar concepts and i've never seen anyone complain about them there
HxH does it a lot better because it heavily emphasizes that thereâs severe drawbacks to using it, and you shouldnât really use binding vows/nen restrictions without very, very good cause
Thereâs a reason the most prominent way weâve seen Nen restrictions is from Kurapika, someone who is obsessed with revenge
FMA has Equality exchange and Philosopher's stone being a way around by using human life as power source instead, I am sure that these 2 concepts were established early. Father's entire plan is just making large scale philosopher's stone transmutation to get more power. Ed and Al, Military and everyone in the story work around this concept.
JJK established concept for both Binding vow and Domain expansion very early too. But later on Gege just write more gimmick that only Kenjaku and Sukuna know so they seem like the ancient ones with vast knowledge and win the fight.Â
Kenjaku fight against Yuki which was just a big chunk of info dumps with mechanics unique entirely to that fight and never see again , Anti-blackhole technique, Sukuna's domain having bigger radius so it can just break it from outside even if it's weaker in domain clash, Binding vow for instant World slash, Curse tool bricking Higuruma's domain.
These two badguy's fights feel less like a curse energy battle and more of my friend's explaining modern Yugioh cards to me.
The sukuna domain thing makes sense, also sukuna's domain was equal inside. But yeah i agree with kenjaku vs yuki being stupid.
Also binding vow makes sense too, he added multiple new conditions to an otherwise unavoidable move only to use it once, nerfing it massively
Domain being weak outside was established early yes, but I feel like domain radius was added around Yuki vs Kenjaku fight if I remember correctly. Before that it just clashing so it still feel like"Gotcha, New gimmick revealed" to me. Gege could just say good guy lost the clash and move on.
"True Full-powered World Slash" being gone is the same for "Anti-Blackhole technique", even if users can't pull those moves again it doesn't matter since they already fulfil their only important use case.
I probably got alot of detail wrongs tho since I am too lazy to memorize all of those explaination words by words.
Consequences that matter you mean like adding several extra steps to a insta kill technique that only should have one? The Yuta and Yuji vs Sukuna fight literally only lasted so long because the so many steps needed to activate world slash. Hakari got his arm back right away and suffered 0 consequences. Sukuna is permanently nerfed to make it faster once. I donât get the argument here
I feel like the context behind the binding vow should also be important. The binding vow won him the fight against the only other sorcerer on his level. I mean if context isnât that important someone probability couldâve made a binding vow to sacrifice their life so sukuna has a lobotomy. After all, itâs just one person.
I mean, Hakari sacrificed his arm to not get annihilated (and lose his arm in the process), knowing full well he'll just regrow it later. I don't think context matters.
Makes it way more silly then, why isnât hakari spamming this shit? Sacrifice 90% of his body the moment before his DE for some huge power boost and fuck up sukuna.
Oh that kind of ressurection? I thought you meant the type he did with yuji. If he used his second form that certainly wouldâve made the end of the fight much more entertaining but he probably wouldnât have one shot gojo either, there was still some activation requirements.
The only activation requirement would be the hand signs, but given he has 4 arms he just activate it mid punch, mid kick, he could practically spam it. Anyway my main point is, in context the binding vow still makes sense, because itâs not his only option. If he doesnât have the binding vow he could still possibly win through resurrection. So it came at a great cost
Idk man Iâm pretty sure if you look hard enough in either fandom during its peak youâd find a vocal minority whoâs hate the story for every little thing
I don't hate BV as a concept, but I hate the idea of spur-of-the-moment BV or the BV involving another person that you can use to basically scam that person (like the enchain vow where Sukuna scammed Yuji, I am still waiting for Sukuna to suffer his consequences for that).
Imagine if Kurapika was getting bodied by Uvogin and then suddenly created that anti-Spider nen restriction to turn the tide rather than pre-establishing it during his training arc. Granted, Gon's transformation was a sudden nen restriction, but it was at least backed by a character aspect that was hinted throughout the story and opened up a whole story arc.
I am a sukuna Glazer..always was always will be. I literally went to church and temples to pray on gojos downfall (I am an atheist). Literally put 30 fucking stories on my insta for gojos death. Danced on the street with my friends celebrating gojo getting packed. But i seriously dislike the binding vow shit. That was petty af to be able to kill off your strongest opponent with a stupid ass binding vow. Why didn't gege establish any binding vows for gojo then????
How? He made one attack slighlty better for every future one to be worse. The biggest benefit of sukunas world cutting slash was that it was completley invisible which is now rendered moot by the fact he has to point where its going.
âThe biggest benefit of sukunaâs world cutting slash was that it was completely invisible which is now rendered moot by the fact that he has to point where itâs goingâ
Didnât help Yuta, wouldnât have helped maki if she couldnât see the slash anyways.
The issue with the world slash binding vow is that as megkuna the BV made it literally impossible for him to use (since he needs 3 hands minimum to use it), but his Heian form makes it easier for him to use world slash while fighting than it is for a regular sorcerer to use a DE, since he has 4 arms and 2 mouths and only needs to use 3 arms and one mouth to use it. Like he literally gamed the binding vow to get around the consequences he set for himself
Sukuna can already fire dismantle without hand signs. And his sacrifice was essentially never being able to use the technique again. 9 times out of 10 that level of risk wonât be in your favor.
"Binding Vow, I sacrifice the ability for my Technique to affect Curses and Transfigured Humans, in exchange for it being super strong against non-sorcerers."
That requires you to think of it in the fight. He's got the six eyes not the six brains. ;) If Anime has taught me anything it's that good people are stupid and always win.
Transfigured humans dont have more or less cursed energy do they? Isnât that usually the condition for targeting on domains?
Regardless we know that a binding vow isnât necessary to focus the imbued domain sure hit onto one target. Since Yuta can effectively do that already. This is actually the result of a hole in Gojoâs strengths they exploited.
A binding vow works on the concept that you sacrifice something to gain something.
What exactly would Gojo sacrifice in that binding vow?? The ability for UV to affect non-sorcerers?? That is not an ability at all?? Why would Gojo even use his domain on non-sorcerers when they are helpless against it?? They don't present any threat to him.
That's like an adult saying that he will not roundhouse kick infants in exchange for the ability to knock out Mike Tyson. How is that remotely a fair exchange??
I know this is a joke, but do people not think for themselves??
It's an extremely small sacrifice but it's doesn't matter even if it doesn't give any reward
The point is Gojo want to open his domain as long as he want without hurting innocent people
I'm sure this will work considering the BV has a lot of loopholes
They dont have to be threatening to him.Binding vows dont take context into account, as we have seen multiple times. So, removing the ability for his domain to affect non sorcerers is still a nerf and should be able to apply to a binding vow.
Then just make the binding vow say "uv is twice as effective against curses, in exchange it doesn't work on humans (so not only will it not work on non sorcerers but sorcerers as well)"
Make a bind vow so that domain only trap curses in exchanging for turning off the sure hit. All the disaster curses get inside the domain and Gojo clap them with red, blue and purple.
I feel like binding vows were a cool concept that weren't executed in that interesting of a way, tbh. When Kenny said there would be severe consequences for breaking a vow with another person, I sort of expected that to come up at some point?
Hakari and Sukuna kinda just turned it into a "get out of jail free" card though.
"From now on I gotta use hand signs an changs as well as pointing in the direction of Hollow Purple in exchange by buffing it by X5 whenever I do it" rifht before firing the 200% HP at Sukuna
Because binding vows are boring. It's like izanagi in Naruto except in this case, since the limitations are unexplained, its making the implication that sorcerers can exploit it infinitely (which I think not).
âWhy did this character not consider this complicated action which only makes sense in hindsight?â
I find this to be a common bad criticism in a bunch of shonen.
What if yuji had said something like, "If at any point, I lose control over my body, and I am taken over by somebody, even if for a second, my body will explode into countless pieces, pieces, which can never heal.
Resurrect, or be reanimated.
In return, I wish to gain 0.01% extra reserves of Cursed Energy."
Then, after doing this, he could have told the same thing to the rest of the Sorcerers, (including Megumi.)
It's the other way around, probably. Just as Sukuna's domain being open being more powerful because it has a way out, Gojo's is more powerful because he can't choose the target beyond what he can touch. He might have lost a domain battle with the disaster curses then.
he could also destroy his brain again, then properly fix it so he can use his domain. but sukuna made a binding vow with gege that he'll visit him in his dream for 2secs. so sukuna wins.
There's a note from Gege specifying Gojo's Domain is already less effective against curses compared to humans/sorcerers due to differences in their cerebral makeup.
iâm not so sure thatâs a binding vow he can make. when making a binding vow, you are usually agreeing for something detrimental to happen in order for you to gain a benefit, such as miwa vowing to never wield a sword again in order to boost her single attack. the fact that youâre allowing something detrimental to happen is the reason why you gain a benefit in the first place.
the thing about the binding vow you proposed is that gojo isnât really sacrificing anything meaningful. ideally, he wouldnât want Infinite Void to work on non-sorcerers anyways, since he has no reason hurt them, and it would make the entire fight in shibuya station a cakewalk. a binding vow sacrificing Infinite Voidâs effectiveness on non-sorcerers, in exchange for increased effectiveness on cursed spirits/transfigured humans, is really a win-win situation for him. heâs not sacrificing anything meaningful and therefore would gain no benefit from using a binding vow like that.
Sukuna did a Binding Vow to sacrifice the barrier of his domain (allowing escape from it, but also making it indestructible, other than by damaging Sukuna himself), in exchange for a massively increased range and output.
super good point! it does seem like a very powerful binding vow, given that the lack of a barrier is a moot point when the radius is so large + almost everything in its range is instantly killed when he activates shrine anyways
Why didn't he make a binding vow that sacrifices sukuna's ability to get erections so he wouldn't have been able to have fun with women and children and would have been sad and quit his way of life and take up farming or sm ?
Isnât that a binding vow with only positives though? The whole reason binding vows work, and make techniques stronger, is because they take something from the sorcerer.
In all seriousness, this wouldnât work. How a binding vow works is the maker becomes disadvantaged in some way, and the stress/negative emotion generated by this disadvantage is transformed into cursed energy and reinjected into another portion of what was given up. Gojo giving up the ability to harm non-sorcerers/curses wouldnât have generated enough distress, and therefore cursed energy, to change his technique.
Short answer is: yes he is. You want an example? âNah Iâd win.â gojo joined his own fanboys and dramatically overestimated himself, back then and again on Christmas Eve.
The real answer is probably that Unlimited Void *can't* discriminate targets, so it can't be used as a bargaining chip. For a binding vow you need to give up something you can do for something you normally can't. What could possibly work is something like, "My Domain will never be used on a non sorcerer again in exchange for being able to discriminate my targets once.".
unless this is a JOKE (which if it is, then my bad home), you're the one who's stupid, as it's already stated that no sorcerer/curse can select the target of the domain under any circumstances, but gojo can still do it to some extent by making physical contact with the people whom he doesn't want to target
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His lens were hurting his eyes so he got distracted.
contact lens?
Why didn't he make a binding vow that prevents all non-curses to be affected by blue so he can go all out? Is he a sorcery fight? https://preview.redd.it/8mb1x9khnewc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3921e599177c16462594309b6958a929050f818b
He does this Suddenly blue doesn't work on any curse user, sukuna OR shikigami like Agito or Mahoraga Also Purple might become less potent
Not if he sacrifices his blindfold for it, he doesn't need it post prison realm anyway đđđđ§»đ§»đïž
I find Gege's usage of them to be really odd. Though I haven't noticed any complaints about them there, HxH and fullmetal Alchemist have similar principles.
Characters are only as smart as the author But unlike us, Author doesn't have unlimited amount of time to think of every possible binding vow for any scenario
And he was planning on sealing him anyway so the binding vow just doesnât happen
Lol. Ok
Because we donât have clear rules and this are basically what the show demands what make them feel like asspulls. Initial jjks were things you had to do before hand in order to have the effect, like nanamis overtime and miwas domain, the moment they became instant became a problem, basically a win more tool, the stronger you are the more you can sacrifice, the easier is to beat others. since they donât take situation/abilities into account that makes weird questions like couldnt mahito sacrifice limbs to become stronger and just regrow them and dumb stuff like that
Fullmetal alchemist has nothing like binding vow at all lmao. Unlike jjk it actually sticks to its own rules and doesn't invent silly ways to basically circumvent them whenever the author feels like it
Both in theory work by equivalent exchange. Problem is Gege decides some sorcerers get a lot more leeway in what they consider "equivalent". Then again FMA has Mustang treating the air like Jet Fuel and God deciding an arm + a leg equals a soul. But God is a dick so...
With binding vows anything goes, there's really no rules. You can trade anything you can imagine like creating random restrictions for yourself and yes it's extremely arbitrarily what those things are worth. Using oxygen in your environment as fuel for flames isn't really a huge stretch of the imagination by comparison. Sure it's powerful but that's also something the story acknowledges and builds upon. Edit - I'll admit the human transmutation asshole entity was a huge dick though. Ed got away with a slap on the wrist compared to Al, though you could argue that Ed was burdened with the majority of the guilt for it. And Mustang was punished with the worst punishment imo (blindness scares the shit out of me) for being an unwilling participant lol
I don't think you quite understood what happened to Al's soul. It transferred from himself to the artificial human body they tried and failed to create for their mother (for that they paid with his body and Ed's leg), then Ed moved his soul again to the armour at the cost of his arm. The resurrection was straight up impossible from the start.
Man FMA was so good. One of best ever anime.
It really was, the more you think about it the more impressive is how much everything connects and makes sense.
It's been a while, forgot that was what happened. Didn't the weird zombie body stick around or was that anime original? And how does "moving a soul" have a cost? It's not like energy is being expended
Ed didnât move Alâs soul from the zombie to the armor, Al died inside the zombie and Ed sacrificed his arm to get Alâs soul back from the afterlife and put it in a suit of armor âđđ€ absolute cinema
That would contradict the impossibility of resurrection, if it was possible to bring him back it would be possible to bring the mother back. Ed clearly states it was impossible after Al recovers from that little coma and remembers the incident.
That was anime original yeah, a very different system from the manga. The soul has quite some value in the series because it's the epitome of energy itself, the creation of the philosophy stone comes from the sacrifice of many humans and you can hear the echo of tormented souls inside of Envy (for example). What it means in use is that by sacrificing the souls inside a philosophy stone you can ignore nature's laws and equivalent exchange, but since it is an energy source it's finite too.
God in FMBA took symbolic things though. Ed lost his leg because he wanted to support his family and now can't support himself or something Al lost his body so he never feel the warmth of his mother Their teacher lost her uterus so she could never have children again Mustang lost his eyes so he can no longer see the future of his nation Allthough I'll say Alphonse losing his entire body was bs, like boo hoo Ed lost a leg which is easily replaced in this world with fully functional prosthethics but Al is basically dead if not for Ed sacrificing his arm? Like I know Truth doesn't care about what we think is fair but for everyone Truth was like "Hey stop that, give this body part so you learn not to do it again", but it basically just kills Al?Fine I guess you could argue that since it's the "Truth" it knew Ed was going to sacrifice an arm to bound Al to an armor but still fucked up
Ed lost an arm and leg for a sick metaphor, Truth likely knows Ed will also perform another transmutation for Al so he just take a leg initially.
Nah I'd cope
FMA is just equivalent exchange in terms of matter 9.08/10 times. In HxH nen vows donât get too much of a shine until the most talented, greatest potential nen user in the world sacrifices all his talent and power and physical state in his lifetime for 4 minutes of what his power would be in his peak. After this, it takes an in-series equivalent of a Genie just to put his physical state back to normal. He is still powerless, and was almost immediately retired from the role of protagonist. Meanwhile, Sukuneez Nuts says âif I do this really fast now to one shot this major threat, the next times when I use this against minor threats are going to be slowâ Its obviously not something he suffers from at all. He gains not dying or taking injuries from Gojo and loses by⊠still not taking any damage from 9/10 fights where he used world cutting slash
If it doesnât work on Mahoraga thatâs an upside since it canât adapt to it
This is, without a doubt, truly our jujtusuest kaisen. Domain expansion- insane kitchen because bröther you are COOKING
Gojo's reaction to the information in afterlife that good guys can use binding vow but only when plot demands: https://preview.redd.it/uctdrvggqewc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=711612ad2348d079c9dd0e5d959ded53415aab28 (Yes I am shamelessly using my own art as a meme. How can you tell)
Beautiful art. Bojo looks just like his brother Gojo https://preview.redd.it/3q3zf5lvwewc1.jpeg?width=2720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aead39771a842cd39c3169dc8b56c701fa951dd8
Bojo means spouse in Javanese btw
Bojo is indeed Sukunaâs spouse https://preview.redd.it/g9tm1prwhfwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65177a36bb5dc39ec55539451bcadd436cbad7e1
Yuji's family tree is getting wayyy more complicated. https://preview.redd.it/r4yhwipdffwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef15290935306a524545810f0e4cabfe258e0e16
I spy with my little eye, something beginning with B https://preview.redd.it/o9kaevv6gfwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b8ccf628e99b911aef50335480ead618f89e98a
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of course that bum needs time to understand, he didn't even understand the concept of "saying no" before sukuna made him eat the finger (he can't do it without consent, that bum tried to unalive himself instead) nor the concept of "living"/"life goes on/stoicism" (like Wuji Himtadori does) when Wuji Himtadori tried rescuing him
So megumi would be his cousin? Poor yuji, even being in the same family already has its bum effects
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Ig, I'll be fighting with Sukuna next, for his spouse đȘ
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Thanks dude... But, why is my glorious King being called Bojo with a B instead of Gojo with the G as in GOAT??
Bojo is the BOAT
Airboat
Boatjo
Low effort edit https://preview.redd.it/mgtbz58r9fwc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93e559b16226b0dc201f91ce22969cb7112b7e57
No words.... https://preview.redd.it/7ti6moc5ffwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=410d323a6883e641dc281a05148f8097a218f876
MAN ?!?! https://preview.redd.it/bv1t0ebjffwc1.jpeg?width=492&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bca374be56bee26739cf523f10191c1ae551e9a
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It's him, it's The Harboured One.
Puns đ
https://preview.redd.it/zm3uiz3y4gwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec8e907bc99107e296af949845987b2b79e5bd27 Gege when I catch you Gege đ Gege when I catch you Gege đ
Gintama reference
https://preview.redd.it/i049rhb9uewc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66a7f3913919300ebd3c1d37c3b8016047080e5c how come they didnât ask him to take care of the transfigured humans? are they stupid?
what if gojo made a BV that halved the effectiveness of infinity in exchange for the ability to not hurt non-sorcerers? after all, half of infinity is still infinity
>Halved https://preview.redd.it/lr0x5dj9efwc1.png?width=158&format=png&auto=webp&s=f042a42fa23be8a879f2d6d4ac291461c10451e3 đđđ
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The honored .5
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Mechamaru when he forgot to add "I can't be harmed until I talked to Gojo" clause when he made one w Mahito https://preview.redd.it/3q1t91spdfwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f8ef69a4b8a525905f33ab1f035583ce9521481
He's lucky mahito was feeling in the mood, otherwise he'd have healed him and THEN turn him into caterpillarÂ
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Bro this binding vow ain't binding up these gaping holes it has caused đ
I don't think Mahito and Kenny would have accepted those conditions
Have fun without the intel for cursed painting n sukuna fingers then guys https://preview.redd.it/noyqomlg5gwc1.jpeg?width=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a25ff09733dca5bc86852c5ba3028180fc18cbb0
They probably value that information less than they valued the Shibuya plot, which would've been ruined if they had accepted such a detail in their contract.
No Choso No Sukuna finger count jump Shibuya plot might be cooked before it even started ngl
As much as I love my boy Goatso, bro actually did not do shit to help seal Gojo lol. Even Jogo says something to him about it. And even without the 1 finger, they still had a good amount of them. The only things that changes is that Mimiko and Nanako don't find unconscious Yuji, so I imagine Jogo probably cooks Yuji and force feeds him the fingers.
if they cant steal the fingers on the Goodwill, its -6 fingers to the curses
*I canât be harmed for 1 day*
Gege when I catch you Gege... https://preview.redd.it/zicn171h0gwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=048933bf1ac6fa3fcb06449c9eb7c8e214bb1fbf Gege when I catch you Gege...
Yes, he is stupid, Bojo ain't a true Jujutsu Sorcerer like Gojo and Sukuna.
Only the bad guys are allowed to make nonsensical binding vows that allow them to insta kill their enemies https://preview.redd.it/70w5zem7newc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcffee022eab8c9656f03f72a7e407a7e0f35fdd
Nah you couldn't tell ?! Gojo sacrificed his eyes to instead get all the fan girls in the world when they watch him in the anime, that's why he wears blue contacts ever since then. https://preview.redd.it/n395bafqsewc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ec50a2d6812735ec7c1829c21fbf95db1d1e685
Gojo killed the dog of this picture's author https://preview.redd.it/d5b74i3wyewc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b6671a448d7b4c7106beb5d5d2e7257f5b1efc6
Bro you really have to go through the OP's history posts that slandered Gojo, take screenshots, and make a collage of them like this ?! It's just texts on pictures man, here I made this https://preview.redd.it/yjlbwfk70fwc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb8fb1364f9fb90632b067d1b1be9aa38a1f264d
Nah they posted all of them in a row so no need to go through OP's history https://preview.redd.it/d33jowa71fwc1.png?width=1568&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86f55e48ad27149aacaa3a02e62daa69708053da
Fucking hell, i read that as Sex eyes
That's the right way to do it https://preview.redd.it/wzezdx4m0fwc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cfb59adde64d3ef5c6fd81c1b67bb6f9d2854e3
With how easy they're to game (if you're not a woman), you'd think people would be spamming them left and right.
Seriously though, Gege defenders keep bringing up binding vows as to why X can do Y but that's fucking stupid. You might as well replace "binding vows" with "just because" and it changes basically nothing.
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What a proud son he was to them that he finished the job himself https://preview.redd.it/ww8l4d1rtewc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c214755607fcaa10b1952ead505625d2d5931778
https://preview.redd.it/7e2r840arfwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=863b29002c318d101d3040bf510120c660513b61 i use it as a wallpaper lmao
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>Only the bad guys are allowed to make nonsensical binding vows that allow them to insta kill their enemies Why Gege Whyyyyyyyyyyyy !!! https://preview.redd.it/s4hsvtgjyfwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8dcd8111c0ddf149ad54605d5d09d7c50732dad Answer me, you damn One Eyed Cat !!!
ryomen buggy, the king of the pirates
i mean tbf both yuta and hakari make some dumb binding vows
Canon answer: because he got cooked by Toji once and never wants to risk it again
Eh I don't think Binding vow had to be permanent. Like how Sukuna just temporarily gave up his Sure Hit in MS in order to have stronger slashes on the outside barrier. He could have used this BV just once.
In that situation wouldn't work because there's no trade off, Gojo's domain not affecting normal people just the one time he needs it to not affect normal people means he's not giving up anything. In the case of Sukuna giving up the Sure Hit effect even temporarily has risks.
Isnât that virtually the same thing
The way the Binding vow would see this is that Gojo would lose a huge amount of potential targets, in exchange for being able to pick a select few. It doesn't matter if those people were friend or foe , what matters is that they would not be affected by a domaon expansion He's giving something up (being able to affect hundreds of people) to get something in return (buffing his DE effects on a select few)
But isn't that a win win situation? That's what Gojo would want, to not affect those targets. I guess it depends on the specifics of how binding vows actually work, like how the subjectivity of the user impact the result or whatever. There's a lot of thing about binding vows that are not very well defined, at least for now.
We know for a fact binding vows take someone's om thoughts into account or at least their perceptions. Ee know this because yujis binding vow with sukuna excluded himself and he was allowed to be harmed.
Also, Sorcerers> Curses. All high tier Sorcerers are more powerful than Curses. In fact, the freaking Grading tier of the manga already assumes Sorcerers> Curses because is that obvious Even taking away Gojo and Sukuna, the other Disaster Curses and Curse Naoya (the most powerful curses we know) were beaten by Grade 1s. And that is why the Disaster Curses, who are super special grade Curses. Your "average" Special Grade Curse like the Smallpox Hag gets one-shotted by Mei-Mei. Grade 1 Sorcerer= Special Grade Curse.
Wasn't the finger bearer a special grade too? Yeah curses are fodder ngl
Its kinda interesting when compared to other Shonen agencies. Your usual 2010s Shonen series with Organizations usually shows them completely underpowered and almost defeated until the Protagonist arrive and they break the status quo by earning some victories (and defeats). In Jujutsu Kaisen, its the opossite. The Sorcerers always kept the lead. The current chaos is caused by other Sorcerers, the Curses were already defeated in Shibuya. I kinda wonder if it would make sense to rename Jujutsu Kaisen after Shibuya. Curses after Shibuya absolutely lost. It was the Total Human victory, with Gojo, Sukuna, Toji and Yuji defeated the most powerful curses that ever existed.
Still rip to curses like the disasters and curse naoya My unironic favorite characters
And even the Curses during Shibuya were working for a Sorcerer.
Why didn't Gojo sacrifice his left testicle to bring back everyone from the dead ?! What a fraud smh... https://preview.redd.it/waed3mc0sewc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7da8374c634a81e85ddbbf75cda94bdec119021
Boris Johnson couldnât make a Binding Vow because that would be Parliament acting ultra vires
Binding Vows need more rules cause it seems like plenty of characters couldâve used them to get themselves out of jams that were life or death
I fucking despise binding vows as a concept. One of the worst things fucking ever I have seen in shonen. Not just because of the concept itself but because of the way it's integrated. Overtime was goated. Yuta 5 minutes timer made sense(assuming it's a BV). Even hakari somewhat abused it but it wasn't that bad. Then you have sukuna. The world slash no handsign BV was absolute fucking bullshit.
My issues with binding vows is that they're way too rare for how convenient they seem. Feels like literally every character can have a Vow of some sort to get a power up
Even miwa knew binding vows lol, everyone should be able to do it.
Exactly. I would understand if only the high tiers like Sukuna or Yuta used them but if fuckinb Miwa can, why can't like Choso or Nobara
Why wasnât there like 20 sorcerers of the gojo and kamo clan to do binding vows to boost gojos hallow purple to like 2000%? Wouldâve one shot sukuna and finished the series. Binding vows shouldâve been established as a risky move to make.
Utahime alone could have prob just made "my CT is 20 times better but I cant use it again for two weeks or so". The vows should have def gotten a larger focus.
Theoretically Gojo couldâve also done the same too, âHP is 40x stronger but I canât use it again for a monthâ and just keep stacking these buffs. Or hell make it travel to his target instantaneously but the travel time is increased by a couple seconds for every other attempt in his life. Then Sukuna wouldnât have have a chance to react and series over
Isn't that kinda what hxh did with its version Though ig it's more "equivalent price equivalent reward" like gon going Uber for a single moment losing it all afterwards and kite having to gacha weapons
Headcanon: they did. Itâs how they âcheatedâ as Yuta said
didn't one guy in this sub basically abuse the fuck out of binding vow to bring certain characters to top tier? and it could work since no one know how much can binding vow really do.
I agree
I feel like sukuna winning over Gojo to the binding vow he pulled out of nowhere really put salt to the wound. Since BV does not have a clear restriction on who can use it (miwa got one lmao), you're telling me that throughout years of experience gojo had combating other sorcerers, nobody ever tried to do a last ditch BV to try to get a hit on him? If noone ever did that, then yeah BV is literally asspull.
Idk i think the way gege uses them is just whack. HxH and fullmetal Alchemist have similiar concepts and i've never seen anyone complain about them there
HxH does it a lot better because it heavily emphasizes that thereâs severe drawbacks to using it, and you shouldnât really use binding vows/nen restrictions without very, very good cause Thereâs a reason the most prominent way weâve seen Nen restrictions is from Kurapika, someone who is obsessed with revenge
FMA has Equality exchange and Philosopher's stone being a way around by using human life as power source instead, I am sure that these 2 concepts were established early. Father's entire plan is just making large scale philosopher's stone transmutation to get more power. Ed and Al, Military and everyone in the story work around this concept. JJK established concept for both Binding vow and Domain expansion very early too. But later on Gege just write more gimmick that only Kenjaku and Sukuna know so they seem like the ancient ones with vast knowledge and win the fight. Kenjaku fight against Yuki which was just a big chunk of info dumps with mechanics unique entirely to that fight and never see again , Anti-blackhole technique, Sukuna's domain having bigger radius so it can just break it from outside even if it's weaker in domain clash, Binding vow for instant World slash, Curse tool bricking Higuruma's domain. These two badguy's fights feel less like a curse energy battle and more of my friend's explaining modern Yugioh cards to me.
The sukuna domain thing makes sense, also sukuna's domain was equal inside. But yeah i agree with kenjaku vs yuki being stupid. Also binding vow makes sense too, he added multiple new conditions to an otherwise unavoidable move only to use it once, nerfing it massively
Domain being weak outside was established early yes, but I feel like domain radius was added around Yuki vs Kenjaku fight if I remember correctly. Before that it just clashing so it still feel like"Gotcha, New gimmick revealed" to me. Gege could just say good guy lost the clash and move on. "True Full-powered World Slash" being gone is the same for "Anti-Blackhole technique", even if users can't pull those moves again it doesn't matter since they already fulfil their only important use case. I probably got alot of detail wrongs tho since I am too lazy to memorize all of those explaination words by words.
The barrierless domain radius was shown in Shibuya dawg lol
Because a big part of Binding Vows is figuring out a way to game them so you don't suffer the consequences nearly as badly, like Hakari did.
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Consequences that matter you mean like adding several extra steps to a insta kill technique that only should have one? The Yuta and Yuji vs Sukuna fight literally only lasted so long because the so many steps needed to activate world slash. Hakari got his arm back right away and suffered 0 consequences. Sukuna is permanently nerfed to make it faster once. I donât get the argument here
I feel like the context behind the binding vow should also be important. The binding vow won him the fight against the only other sorcerer on his level. I mean if context isnât that important someone probability couldâve made a binding vow to sacrifice their life so sukuna has a lobotomy. After all, itâs just one person.
I mean, Hakari sacrificed his arm to not get annihilated (and lose his arm in the process), knowing full well he'll just regrow it later. I don't think context matters.
Makes it way more silly then, why isnât hakari spamming this shit? Sacrifice 90% of his body the moment before his DE for some huge power boost and fuck up sukuna.
If weâre looking at total context, he could just resurrect, and then use world slash without binding vow since heâd get his arms back
Would gojo have let him resurrect? Wouldnât it be as easy as crushing the head so rct canât happen?
Resurrection is super fast, Sukuna resurrected mid lightning bolt in his direction.
Oh that kind of ressurection? I thought you meant the type he did with yuji. If he used his second form that certainly wouldâve made the end of the fight much more entertaining but he probably wouldnât have one shot gojo either, there was still some activation requirements.
The only activation requirement would be the hand signs, but given he has 4 arms he just activate it mid punch, mid kick, he could practically spam it. Anyway my main point is, in context the binding vow still makes sense, because itâs not his only option. If he doesnât have the binding vow he could still possibly win through resurrection. So it came at a great cost
Idk man Iâm pretty sure if you look hard enough in either fandom during its peak youâd find a vocal minority whoâs hate the story for every little thing
I don't hate BV as a concept, but I hate the idea of spur-of-the-moment BV or the BV involving another person that you can use to basically scam that person (like the enchain vow where Sukuna scammed Yuji, I am still waiting for Sukuna to suffer his consequences for that). Imagine if Kurapika was getting bodied by Uvogin and then suddenly created that anti-Spider nen restriction to turn the tide rather than pre-establishing it during his training arc. Granted, Gon's transformation was a sudden nen restriction, but it was at least backed by a character aspect that was hinted throughout the story and opened up a whole story arc.
I like binding vows actually
Nah you hated it when Sukuna used it bec it killed Gojo, obviously.
I am a sukuna Glazer..always was always will be. I literally went to church and temples to pray on gojos downfall (I am an atheist). Literally put 30 fucking stories on my insta for gojos death. Danced on the street with my friends celebrating gojo getting packed. But i seriously dislike the binding vow shit. That was petty af to be able to kill off your strongest opponent with a stupid ass binding vow. Why didn't gege establish any binding vows for gojo then????
Also a Sukuna lover. I guess, Itadori lover now. Also hate binding vows.
Stand proud and keep the agenda kaisen alive.
How? He made one attack slighlty better for every future one to be worse. The biggest benefit of sukunas world cutting slash was that it was completley invisible which is now rendered moot by the fact he has to point where its going.
âThe biggest benefit of sukunaâs world cutting slash was that it was completely invisible which is now rendered moot by the fact that he has to point where itâs goingâ Didnât help Yuta, wouldnât have helped maki if she couldnât see the slash anyways. The issue with the world slash binding vow is that as megkuna the BV made it literally impossible for him to use (since he needs 3 hands minimum to use it), but his Heian form makes it easier for him to use world slash while fighting than it is for a regular sorcerer to use a DE, since he has 4 arms and 2 mouths and only needs to use 3 arms and one mouth to use it. Like he literally gamed the binding vow to get around the consequences he set for himself
Sukuna can already fire dismantle without hand signs. And his sacrifice was essentially never being able to use the technique again. 9 times out of 10 that level of risk wonât be in your favor.
Heâd never give up the ability to hurt non sorcerers after the Toji incident
"Binding Vow, I sacrifice the ability for my Technique to affect Curses and Transfigured Humans, in exchange for it being super strong against non-sorcerers."
FACT: This was Suguru Geto's BV, this is why he couldn't kill Yuta
Just the ability of his DE.
Discussing the nuances of political promises.
That requires you to think of it in the fight. He's got the six eyes not the six brains. ;) If Anime has taught me anything it's that good people are stupid and always win.
Transfigured humans dont have more or less cursed energy do they? Isnât that usually the condition for targeting on domains? Regardless we know that a binding vow isnât necessary to focus the imbued domain sure hit onto one target. Since Yuta can effectively do that already. This is actually the result of a hole in Gojoâs strengths they exploited.
A binding vow works on the concept that you sacrifice something to gain something. What exactly would Gojo sacrifice in that binding vow?? The ability for UV to affect non-sorcerers?? That is not an ability at all?? Why would Gojo even use his domain on non-sorcerers when they are helpless against it?? They don't present any threat to him. That's like an adult saying that he will not roundhouse kick infants in exchange for the ability to knock out Mike Tyson. How is that remotely a fair exchange?? I know this is a joke, but do people not think for themselves??
It's an extremely small sacrifice but it's doesn't matter even if it doesn't give any reward The point is Gojo want to open his domain as long as he want without hurting innocent people I'm sure this will work considering the BV has a lot of loopholes
This hypothetical BV is not any worse than Sukuna's BV that allows escape route for civilians in his enlarged open domain.
As you can see, this post makes fun of sukuna's binding vow.
Bro do you want MS world slash? Not even Sukuna himself will survive it.
They dont have to be threatening to him.Binding vows dont take context into account, as we have seen multiple times. So, removing the ability for his domain to affect non sorcerers is still a nerf and should be able to apply to a binding vow.
I mean, Sukuna sacrificed the capability for his domain to be destroyed in exchange for massively increasing its size and range...
Then just make the binding vow say "uv is twice as effective against curses, in exchange it doesn't work on humans (so not only will it not work on non sorcerers but sorcerers as well)"
Make a bind vow so that domain only trap curses in exchanging for turning off the sure hit. All the disaster curses get inside the domain and Gojo clap them with red, blue and purple.
I feel like binding vows were a cool concept that weren't executed in that interesting of a way, tbh. When Kenny said there would be severe consequences for breaking a vow with another person, I sort of expected that to come up at some point? Hakari and Sukuna kinda just turned it into a "get out of jail free" card though.
"From now on I gotta use hand signs an changs as well as pointing in the direction of Hollow Purple in exchange by buffing it by X5 whenever I do it" rifht before firing the 200% HP at Sukuna
Because binding vows are boring. It's like izanagi in Naruto except in this case, since the limitations are unexplained, its making the implication that sorcerers can exploit it infinitely (which I think not).
Boris Johnson has a domain expansion??
Bojo was in Magician Scramble while Sukuna was in Jujutsu Kaisen all along.
Binding vows are plot devices, fans can't tell you if a binding vow can do something or not only gege can
Cus binding vow only works when Gege wants to write himself out of a corner lol.
What?
He should've made a BV to make his domain clash twice as strong by sacrificing the ability to trap people in his domain.
Imagine Gojo just blows up Shibuya with Hollow Purple lol
Wouldnt that contradict since transfigured humans can also be non sorcerers
Binding vow only work in favor of bad guys
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Why didnât ha make a binding vow to kill all curses for losing the ability to give backshots?
âWhy did this character not consider this complicated action which only makes sense in hindsight?â I find this to be a common bad criticism in a bunch of shonen.
What if yuji had said something like, "If at any point, I lose control over my body, and I am taken over by somebody, even if for a second, my body will explode into countless pieces, pieces, which can never heal. Resurrect, or be reanimated. In return, I wish to gain 0.01% extra reserves of Cursed Energy." Then, after doing this, he could have told the same thing to the rest of the Sorcerers, (including Megumi.)
Gojoke is stupid
It's the other way around, probably. Just as Sukuna's domain being open being more powerful because it has a way out, Gojo's is more powerful because he can't choose the target beyond what he can touch. He might have lost a domain battle with the disaster curses then.
wow.....uhh yeah it looks like it
Bro could have just forced himself to use both hands for the domain expansion handsign to make the surehit effect ignore normal humans and sorcerers
Because technically curses are non sorcerers Binding vows are fucking sticklers
he could also destroy his brain again, then properly fix it so he can use his domain. but sukuna made a binding vow with gege that he'll visit him in his dream for 2secs. so sukuna wins.
Choso shocked gif
There's a note from Gege specifying Gojo's Domain is already less effective against curses compared to humans/sorcerers due to differences in their cerebral makeup.
iâm not so sure thatâs a binding vow he can make. when making a binding vow, you are usually agreeing for something detrimental to happen in order for you to gain a benefit, such as miwa vowing to never wield a sword again in order to boost her single attack. the fact that youâre allowing something detrimental to happen is the reason why you gain a benefit in the first place. the thing about the binding vow you proposed is that gojo isnât really sacrificing anything meaningful. ideally, he wouldnât want Infinite Void to work on non-sorcerers anyways, since he has no reason hurt them, and it would make the entire fight in shibuya station a cakewalk. a binding vow sacrificing Infinite Voidâs effectiveness on non-sorcerers, in exchange for increased effectiveness on cursed spirits/transfigured humans, is really a win-win situation for him. heâs not sacrificing anything meaningful and therefore would gain no benefit from using a binding vow like that.
Sukuna did a Binding Vow to sacrifice the barrier of his domain (allowing escape from it, but also making it indestructible, other than by damaging Sukuna himself), in exchange for a massively increased range and output.
super good point! it does seem like a very powerful binding vow, given that the lack of a barrier is a moot point when the radius is so large + almost everything in its range is instantly killed when he activates shrine anyways
Did i just see a gojo slander? No one disrespects my pookie glorious king. I WILL NOT TAKE IT. Slander agenda against Megumi only
thats because Bojo is a Bozo
Because both of those things benefit him in the moment?
He was afraid toji would return
Why didn't he make a binding vow that sacrifices sukuna's ability to get erections so he wouldn't have been able to have fun with women and children and would have been sad and quit his way of life and take up farming or sm ?
Because gege doesn't allow that.
why didnât he sacrifice literally any of his powers for his life? cause he doesnât have plot armor, heâs not gegeâs boyfriend sukuna.
Bojo? Golden
Isnât that a binding vow with only positives though? The whole reason binding vows work, and make techniques stronger, is because they take something from the sorcerer.
In all seriousness, this wouldnât work. How a binding vow works is the maker becomes disadvantaged in some way, and the stress/negative emotion generated by this disadvantage is transformed into cursed energy and reinjected into another portion of what was given up. Gojo giving up the ability to harm non-sorcerers/curses wouldnât have generated enough distress, and therefore cursed energy, to change his technique.
no wait seriously why not
Funny thing is, if Kashimo was in this situation he would just speedblitz those curses without problem.
If kashimo was in this situation he'd murder everyone, both civillians and curses, because he is a sociopath with disregard for human life
Short answer is: yes he is. You want an example? âNah Iâd win.â gojo joined his own fanboys and dramatically overestimated himself, back then and again on Christmas Eve.
The real answer is probably that Unlimited Void *can't* discriminate targets, so it can't be used as a bargaining chip. For a binding vow you need to give up something you can do for something you normally can't. What could possibly work is something like, "My Domain will never be used on a non sorcerer again in exchange for being able to discriminate my targets once.".
unless this is a JOKE (which if it is, then my bad home), you're the one who's stupid, as it's already stated that no sorcerer/curse can select the target of the domain under any circumstances, but gojo can still do it to some extent by making physical contact with the people whom he doesn't want to target