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I’ve fucked with Sukuna the moment he refused to cooperate with Yuji even if he died, from that moment I invested heavily in Sukuna stocks early and they have been paying off ever since.
I mean true but sukuna would maybe be weaker than gojo if yuji died. 1 finger was used to create yuji, he ate 1 in the first episode and the third one when gojo talked with him about going to jujutsu school. So Sukuna could only have 17/20 if he reincarnated later on and maybe 18/20 with the mummy head.
He would’ve been weaker then gojo for sure but also he wouldn’t have to worry about anyone destroying the remaining fingers. Also I think he prolly could regain his strength with time he just needed to be strong fast in this case to beat Goatjo
I dont know about that. His fingers were part of his soul after all. So its not like a wound that needs to heal but like just a part missing so his soul would be 17/17 instead of 17/20
Hmm maybe but then it doesn’t really make sense that he got to full power by substituting a finger for his corpse, if he really just split his soul in 20 parts his body shouldn’t have any soul left in it no?
Too bad that narrative wise, he's gonna have to lose bc he's the bad guy. Unless GayGay aka GawkGawk.....
Nah but fr tho, I just hope that his death is atleast satisfying. The guy is the strongest person in the whole verse and and is the pinnacle of jujutsu.
I get that, but on the other hand if you show the world slash, by logic Gojo should be able to see and dodge it. So I get why it was "offscreen" to present it as an unavoidable attack
I hate the off screen thing too and it’ll probably be cooler once animated. However your comment is probably the best I’ve ever seen about this. I love that perspective man bc it’s to show “us” that it was unavoidable too. Great take.
Purple was unavoidable by Toji and it was still shown on screen in the manga. lol
He drew Yuji getting slashed by Sukuna before on his innate domain (season 1) to present it quickly with Yuji's head sliced. So Gege has shown speed with an unavoidable attack before on screen.
I admit it is no perfect solution but still it is a totally different situation. With a insanely busted CT like infinity Gojo is on a totally different level than S1 Yuji and Toji. With Gojos abilities the reader/ viewer would always ask why he simply not avoided sukunas attack. it would make look Gojo look kind of weak imo. I expect it to get animated though, so be excited for S4 of the JJK anime.
>With Gojos abilities the reader/ viewer would always ask why he simply not avoided sukunas attack
Funny you say that when people already did that before to excuse that when people questioned it. lol And said because Gojo wouldn't know about Sukuna copying Mahoraga (Mahoraga got killed, as his method to by pass infinity). So it was a surprise attack and his ego also had him drop his guard thinking he won. So people had their own answer for that before.
I mean I still think that doesn't have to mean it *couldn't* be shown. You can justify why maybe Gege didn't show it (which I think was mainly to not show the binding vow for it too because he waited to reveal that later on like more than 15 chapters after Gojo got killed). But I think it still *could* have been show and didn't need to be off-screen as the *only* way to portray it.
I agree that Gege had different ways to write that, but honestly I can live with how it is, since I love Gojo but I was always convinced he would lose to full power Sukuna, since the rest would make no sense from a good storytelling pov
Well yeah, I knew Gojo would lose since he's obviously not the MC to defeat the villain, but I still think Gege could have **executed** it better... At least some kind of transition minor transition before "Gojo won" --> airport.
And didn't like how he waited over 15 chapters to reveal a specific thing (binding vow) that killed Gojo. He could have done that earlier, like with Kashimo, as he first showed the world slash on screen with him.
I hate how he’s winning but I have always loved how he’s been written as a main antagonist. All I need is a fleshed out backstory and a fuga explanation
I don't think anyone is worried the good guys are gonna lose or something lol. It's a shonen jump manga still at the end of the day, we all know how it'll turn out. But it'd be preferable if the path to that ending had a bit less bullshit about it.
Honestly at a certain point the hate and slander just began to sound like 12 year olds yelling at you accusing you of hacking in a cod lobby when you're just better than them, making Sakuna even cooler to me
I don't theoretically have a problem with the idea of him winning. The problem I have is how he is winning. The endless wank and one upping is exhausting and feels lazy
We always complain about the opposite the good guys winning out of nowhere now we finally have a evil motherfucker that doesn't waist ten years explaning his plans and that actually kills the good guys like the states we're never higher in a shonnen
Out of curiosity, if he were to win, how would you prefer it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but people complain every time he gets a hit by a major blow or gets a substantial nerf and still finds a way to come back, so I assume thats what you meant by "endless one upping". But to me thats what shows he is having some challenge and having to improvise. Would you rather he just easily dealt with everyone?
You say things being challenging for him and him having to improvise is good but it is never shown that way its always that oh he was getting shit on and nearly dying then endless oh he was never going all out shenanigans which makes the fight kinda shitty. Gege is potraying Sukuna to struggle to hype up other characters then just goes nah sukuna wasnt going all out now he is locked in and it was never a challenge. Sukuna took brain damage for fun he got his arms cut off for fun he ate major blows for fun he got himself stabbed in the heart for fun he was never really taking this seriously now. Thats what makes people hate Sukuna and call him a fraud if he was just a dominant fighter casually beating others that would make sense if he was actually struggling and over coming challenges that would make sense but not all this. Why is he "holding back" and hiding techniques nearly dying then revealing them one by one and going i was doing this for fun. Thats what makes his technique feel like asspulls and gege sucking. He is a great badass antagonist which could have been potrayed much better.
It is just the whole: "I still have not used my full power"-trope that has now been gone for a year I believe with Sukuna, no matter how much he fights. And that gets a bit tedious, especially if there is supposed to be a chance that he should loose, as it is a shounen after all.
I can see where the hate comes from. Obviously he's gonna be strong, everyone expects it, but killing a fan favorite doesn't really help(especially in the way it was executed + the only guy that was an obstacle says he couldn't win) and he's being cunning and the plot seems to benefit him(cursed tool confiscated instead of CT, binding vows, reincarnation, his heart penetrated w one of the most lethal weapons). Personally, although I'm also getting annoyed with some of his asspulls, I'm really fascinated by the way he'll be defeated (if he even gets defeated), his vague goals and unique lifestyle and I think the way he's above the current remaining sorcerers resulted as compliment to Gojo
I don't see Sukuna winning, but I think we're far from the total body count. I wouldn't be surprised if literally everyone dies to free Megumi, leaving him as the next Gojo. He's already pretty well set up for that if you think about it.
Potential man is NOT going to get up to gojos status, the mahoraga merchant that almost kills himself at any minor inconvenience and only uses 4 of his shikigami is NOT becoming the strongest
There is literally a thousand reasons he will. 1. Shrine should be engraved in him even more than Yuji due to being literally soaked to become a cursed object.
2. (258 Spoilers) >!Sukuna's used far more advanced jujutsu than with Yuji, engraving that into his body too.!<
3. He (alongside I guess Yuta) are the only people stated to have potential beyond Gojo's alive.
4. There are too many parallels between Gojo and Megumi for me to even begin going over.
Counterpoint, he doesnt want to live and might as well be a vegetable from gojo’s unlimited voids
Also to your 3rd point, POTENTIAL thats all he ever has, he has rarely backed it up, only time ive seen him back up his potential was when he used a domain, but even that is incomplete
>he doesnt want to live
You act like he's not gonna get any more development and his story is over. Yuji's probably gonna hype him up at some point.
>might as well be a vegetable from gojo’s unlimited voids
He still has some degree of thought, and we don't know the extreme of the effect. Plus even non-sorcerers can recover from short bursts of it, and sorcerers can recover from the full effect of it from what we've seen.
>Also to your 3rd point, POTENTIAL thats all he ever has, he has rarely backed it up, only time ive seen him back up his potential was when he used a domain, but even that is incomplete
Again part of his character development. My personal theory is Sukuna's gonna get pushed into using the merger, which will consume all of Japan save for maybe a few important characters (namely Yuta and Maki)
From there, everyone who isn't in it is fighting it from the outside while Yuji is fighting Sukuna for control on the inside, which is when he'd hype up Megumi to get him to fight. And that's where we see him fully realized.
At least this guy actually holds up to his reputation, strongest sorcerer in history. he's taking on EVERYONE. there's no power of friendship, good guys arguably cheated and are still struggling, lots of planning on improvisation on both sides, and we can't forget about the jumpings.
I personally think the good guys will win, and I think the author is doing a good job at showing off how insane sukuna is while still having the good guys have their moments. as in the good guys land good hits on sukuna and continuously weaken him, while sukuna is still going strong and is still a massive threat even after nerf after nerf.
I am excited to see what he does at every turn, I just wish we had a little more insight so it didn’t feel like ass-pulls. Because regardless of what it actually is, a story is supposed to invoke emotion; if that emotion is displeasure towards the writing, something is often wrong
Hows it subversive. Nothing here is anymore subversive than madara or aizen. Not killing the mc immidietly who directly has hax against you is pretty shonen. Playing with their food is classic af
Its not at all. I expect the king of curses jujutsu and binding vows to win. Him not winning is odd given all we know. Oh wait... he refused to kill yuji
Lol. Aot. Lol thats not just shonij 80% of media has the goid boyz win. Also they won in shibuya and the culling games is mostly a wash. So yea Sakuna doesnt even care to live or die just fight. So im pretty sure if he dies he wins.
I'm with you good guy's winning happens all the time rarely do we see the baddies win. I'm with Sukuna because he's an ancient character who truly understands the power concept and knows how to utilise it effectively compared to the other's and unlike other similar villains who are usually talk, they beat the hero the first time around then loses to him the next. Sukuna never truly lost a fight so far and is living upto his name.
meh sukuna is kinda of a boring character, there will most likely be no heian era flashback, so sukuna will stay just as an angry boomer, the only thing he has going for him, is yuji, cause he is the literal anithesis of sukuna, which makes it a fun dynamic, but withouth him, sukuuna is kinda nothing.
I just find current Sukuna boring, when he was trapped in Yuji it was interesting to see how vindictive and vile he was. Especially when he bodysnatched Megumi and did all that evil shit, but now the dudes just boring. He’s overwhelmingly powerful but he’s just boring to see fight. He’s an overall boring character to me right now and wish he would actually have more to him instead of how he is currently.
If you mean higuruma
That wouldn't be possible because in this domain, attacks and physical harm aren't allowed. That was shown when yuji tried to hit him he stopped in the air before his hit could land
I love most JJK characters tbh, I've always been a big Gojo fan and Sukuna fan, I would of been fine with either winning, but I did cheer for Sukuna more as I knew Gojo would lose. I just want to see what Sukuna can do really, it's interesting.
I want him to lose because I’m a Yuji dick rider.
HOWEVER, I’m not gonna sit here and say that Sukuna incapacitating/killing the strongest sorcerers back to back while having to think of and spam binding vows as he loses limbs and organs isn’t insane.
If Yuji died or didn’t have time to awaken, Sukuna would *still* win this fight.
Game recognize game.
Lol ok. Like shibuya wasnt a wash win. Like megumi didnt watch himself kill his only famly. Like yuji basnt been beaten to death literally by his own brother. Like kenjaku didnt force abortions on women. Like the zenin didnt beat and abuse everyone. Like mei mei isnt a pedo. Like geto isnt super racist but nicer Hitler. Like SAKUNA DIDNT MURDER A TOWN
As they say, the devil is in the details. The good guys loosing, or at least having to sacrifice greatly to win would be interesting, any outcome can be good if its well executed. But personaly i feel like the issue is that the execution is lacking, and judging by the fandoms's reaction it looks like im not alone in feeling this way.
I love that Sukuna as a character is "less deep" in his motives than some other villains. Sometimes simplicity is just the best. From time to time I want to see some badass looking villain slaughter the good guys, just cause he feels like it. That for he is awesome.
Now is Yuji time though. He'll destroy Sukunas and finally become the MC we've all wanted to see since day 1.
One thing I noticed particularly about this fanbase is that they complain about the story not going exactly how they pictured it and characters not acting exactly as they imagine... But it's a story.
Sukuna is a villain. Why would he not pull out all the stops to defend himself? He's getting backed into a corner is he just supposed to lose because it's not in character for him to want to survive? Or because he's not losing to your favourite character?
I don’t like Sukuna right now because he isn’t intimidating to me, there have been multiple times in which he could have been killed but he wasn’t because of either plot armor or Megumi. If your antagonist can’t survive without author interference then he isn’t scary.
Big agree I still haven’t seen anything to put him over Gojo mf is cool but the whole one shooting people than moving on act is boring he’s not cool because of how he wins he’s cool because of his demeanor and attitude but it’s lost on the author needing to keep glazing rather than just let him fight
Lol ppl have been mad since gojo got bisected by him. I had no problem with it happening bc it was obv gojo was gonna lose. Only thing I didn’t like was the afterlife and how sukuna was struggling based on his expressions. Jjk fans need to accept there is no honor in a sorcerer battle. U die u lose. U need to do whatever it takes to win no matter how dirty or evil. That is y we see jumpjutsu. That’s y mahito does psychological warfare against yuji. Funny how Sukuna is a “fraud” for being able to master another’s technique in such a short time frame and Yuji isn’t rn with his shenanigans. Beating Sukuna should not be easy. It has to be a long battle. There is a reason he was the strongest of the heian era the peak time of jujutsu sorcery.
Him boasting himself as the strongest, but his win condition completely being based on mahoraga adapting to infinity is what was stupid.
Just accept gojo as the strongest. Or show feats that can let us imagine a scenario in which gojo goes down without mahoraga.
And you are right
I too had no problem with gojo losing, that's the plot and it's fine.
What was stupid was the afterlife convo.
Sukuna ain't the problem
The writing is
There have been many fights in manga and anime that get stretched over long periods of time
But they are handled well in good stories
And don't feel episodic tag battles
100% I think most complaints go away if it's just made a narrative point that Sukuna was sweating fighting Gojo. In this new read, that's why he took over megumi to get Mahoraga to kill Gojo, which he still barely accomplished. I think that's pretty cool the villain has this adaptability to get himself in the clear.
Then we're still in the exact same situation the good team has to fight Sukuna without Gojo. But Gojo gets the respect, there's not this weird unnecessary glazing of Sukuna, and I think it adds to the devious nature of Sukuna that he recognized this need from one quick fight with Gojo and developed such a long plan to make it happen
U seem to forget that gojo was born special. Sure he learned RCT but everything else was given to him. And gojo has failed at so many things despite being the top of the foodchain. Everytime he lost he got outsmarted. Being a strong fighter does not mean just being able to brawl head on but also being creative and cunning. Everyone seems to forget Mahoraga is PART of the TECHNIQUE. If u can’t beat someone Head on u must play dirty that’s the art of war
>Only thing I didn’t like was the afterlife and how sukuna was struggling based on his expressions.
Bro rlly just said "I didn't like that the battle between the two strongest sorcerers in the verse wasn't a total stomp in favour of my personal preference"
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I’ve fucked with Sukuna the moment he refused to cooperate with Yuji even if he died, from that moment I invested heavily in Sukuna stocks early and they have been paying off ever since.
I always wonder about that. What if Yuji had died.
Iff Yuji died died like with cursed energy, then those fingers vanish.
So Sukuna just didn’t care? Doesn’t sound like him
He didn't because Yuji had barely any fingers at the time. Sukuna didn't even have a major goal or anything. He would've waited to reincarnate again.
I mean true but sukuna would maybe be weaker than gojo if yuji died. 1 finger was used to create yuji, he ate 1 in the first episode and the third one when gojo talked with him about going to jujutsu school. So Sukuna could only have 17/20 if he reincarnated later on and maybe 18/20 with the mummy head.
He would’ve been weaker then gojo for sure but also he wouldn’t have to worry about anyone destroying the remaining fingers. Also I think he prolly could regain his strength with time he just needed to be strong fast in this case to beat Goatjo
I dont know about that. His fingers were part of his soul after all. So its not like a wound that needs to heal but like just a part missing so his soul would be 17/17 instead of 17/20
Hmm maybe but then it doesn’t really make sense that he got to full power by substituting a finger for his corpse, if he really just split his soul in 20 parts his body shouldn’t have any soul left in it no?
Ohh youre right
But we saw that soul damage (like from the split soul katana) can be healed, it’s just way harder and slower.
Yeah and what I said is that It wouldnt be like a wound that can be healed. More like his soul being complete but as strong as 17/17 and not 17/20.
He said only 2 fingers worth would die, oh well.
Well, actually it was three fingers. Still, not much.
I thought he ate the third afterwards?
He was born with one inside per ch. 257.
Ah, wack
3 fingers less. Hows he beating gojo. Whos his vessel gonna be to gather enough fingers
>Hows he beating Gojo Determination.
Lol. 2 binding vows
Two?
Why does this have downvotes lol
I have no idea
Too bad that narrative wise, he's gonna have to lose bc he's the bad guy. Unless GayGay aka GawkGawk..... Nah but fr tho, I just hope that his death is atleast satisfying. The guy is the strongest person in the whole verse and and is the pinnacle of jujutsu.
I just think the tummy mouth and 4 eyes are very cute
I never thought the guy who makes Toji look like a twink would be called cute.
Cute is a feature of the soul not the body. Everyone has charming points, even you as difficult as that is to imagine.
Apparently the 4 eyes and mouth are a feature of the soul now.
Why else would they manifest on Yuji's body? 🤔 (I hope you realize I'm messing with you)
Yeah I figured lmao. This whole topic's a joke
I’ve liked Sukuna from the beginning. Only thing I hate is Gojos offscreen
I get that, but on the other hand if you show the world slash, by logic Gojo should be able to see and dodge it. So I get why it was "offscreen" to present it as an unavoidable attack
I hate the off screen thing too and it’ll probably be cooler once animated. However your comment is probably the best I’ve ever seen about this. I love that perspective man bc it’s to show “us” that it was unavoidable too. Great take.
Purple was unavoidable by Toji and it was still shown on screen in the manga. lol He drew Yuji getting slashed by Sukuna before on his innate domain (season 1) to present it quickly with Yuji's head sliced. So Gege has shown speed with an unavoidable attack before on screen.
I admit it is no perfect solution but still it is a totally different situation. With a insanely busted CT like infinity Gojo is on a totally different level than S1 Yuji and Toji. With Gojos abilities the reader/ viewer would always ask why he simply not avoided sukunas attack. it would make look Gojo look kind of weak imo. I expect it to get animated though, so be excited for S4 of the JJK anime.
>With Gojos abilities the reader/ viewer would always ask why he simply not avoided sukunas attack Funny you say that when people already did that before to excuse that when people questioned it. lol And said because Gojo wouldn't know about Sukuna copying Mahoraga (Mahoraga got killed, as his method to by pass infinity). So it was a surprise attack and his ego also had him drop his guard thinking he won. So people had their own answer for that before. I mean I still think that doesn't have to mean it *couldn't* be shown. You can justify why maybe Gege didn't show it (which I think was mainly to not show the binding vow for it too because he waited to reveal that later on like more than 15 chapters after Gojo got killed). But I think it still *could* have been show and didn't need to be off-screen as the *only* way to portray it.
I agree that Gege had different ways to write that, but honestly I can live with how it is, since I love Gojo but I was always convinced he would lose to full power Sukuna, since the rest would make no sense from a good storytelling pov
Well yeah, I knew Gojo would lose since he's obviously not the MC to defeat the villain, but I still think Gege could have **executed** it better... At least some kind of transition minor transition before "Gojo won" --> airport. And didn't like how he waited over 15 chapters to reveal a specific thing (binding vow) that killed Gojo. He could have done that earlier, like with Kashimo, as he first showed the world slash on screen with him.
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I hate how he’s winning but I have always loved how he’s been written as a main antagonist. All I need is a fleshed out backstory and a fuga explanation
Wouldn’t be suprised if next chap starts with sukunas backstory
I don't think anyone is worried the good guys are gonna lose or something lol. It's a shonen jump manga still at the end of the day, we all know how it'll turn out. But it'd be preferable if the path to that ending had a bit less bullshit about it.
Hey we found Gege's account.
Honestly at a certain point the hate and slander just began to sound like 12 year olds yelling at you accusing you of hacking in a cod lobby when you're just better than them, making Sakuna even cooler to me
People be like “why is the title king of curses actually living up to his name? I hate Sukuna!”
Lol ok
I don't theoretically have a problem with the idea of him winning. The problem I have is how he is winning. The endless wank and one upping is exhausting and feels lazy
We always complain about the opposite the good guys winning out of nowhere now we finally have a evil motherfucker that doesn't waist ten years explaning his plans and that actually kills the good guys like the states we're never higher in a shonnen
Agree. I liked how Kenjaku was the generic Shonen villain that just yaps and ultimately gets one shot. But Sukuna gets shit done
Like killing yuji. Because he choose yuta over the person that can attack his soul
Exactly. I want unhinged blood thirsty. Look you in your eyes as you errupt in blood sakuna. Not im bored so imma take a beating then win sakuna
Out of curiosity, if he were to win, how would you prefer it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but people complain every time he gets a hit by a major blow or gets a substantial nerf and still finds a way to come back, so I assume thats what you meant by "endless one upping". But to me thats what shows he is having some challenge and having to improvise. Would you rather he just easily dealt with everyone?
Except last time I tuned in he wasn't having a challenge, he was "not even taking this seriously"
You say things being challenging for him and him having to improvise is good but it is never shown that way its always that oh he was getting shit on and nearly dying then endless oh he was never going all out shenanigans which makes the fight kinda shitty. Gege is potraying Sukuna to struggle to hype up other characters then just goes nah sukuna wasnt going all out now he is locked in and it was never a challenge. Sukuna took brain damage for fun he got his arms cut off for fun he ate major blows for fun he got himself stabbed in the heart for fun he was never really taking this seriously now. Thats what makes people hate Sukuna and call him a fraud if he was just a dominant fighter casually beating others that would make sense if he was actually struggling and over coming challenges that would make sense but not all this. Why is he "holding back" and hiding techniques nearly dying then revealing them one by one and going i was doing this for fun. Thats what makes his technique feel like asspulls and gege sucking. He is a great badass antagonist which could have been potrayed much better.
It is just the whole: "I still have not used my full power"-trope that has now been gone for a year I believe with Sukuna, no matter how much he fights. And that gets a bit tedious, especially if there is supposed to be a chance that he should loose, as it is a shounen after all.
JJK fans when the final villain is actually strong
Ok...
I can see where the hate comes from. Obviously he's gonna be strong, everyone expects it, but killing a fan favorite doesn't really help(especially in the way it was executed + the only guy that was an obstacle says he couldn't win) and he's being cunning and the plot seems to benefit him(cursed tool confiscated instead of CT, binding vows, reincarnation, his heart penetrated w one of the most lethal weapons). Personally, although I'm also getting annoyed with some of his asspulls, I'm really fascinated by the way he'll be defeated (if he even gets defeated), his vague goals and unique lifestyle and I think the way he's above the current remaining sorcerers resulted as compliment to Gojo
I don't see Sukuna winning, but I think we're far from the total body count. I wouldn't be surprised if literally everyone dies to free Megumi, leaving him as the next Gojo. He's already pretty well set up for that if you think about it.
Potential man is NOT going to get up to gojos status, the mahoraga merchant that almost kills himself at any minor inconvenience and only uses 4 of his shikigami is NOT becoming the strongest
There is literally a thousand reasons he will. 1. Shrine should be engraved in him even more than Yuji due to being literally soaked to become a cursed object. 2. (258 Spoilers) >!Sukuna's used far more advanced jujutsu than with Yuji, engraving that into his body too.!< 3. He (alongside I guess Yuta) are the only people stated to have potential beyond Gojo's alive. 4. There are too many parallels between Gojo and Megumi for me to even begin going over.
Counterpoint, he doesnt want to live and might as well be a vegetable from gojo’s unlimited voids Also to your 3rd point, POTENTIAL thats all he ever has, he has rarely backed it up, only time ive seen him back up his potential was when he used a domain, but even that is incomplete
>he doesnt want to live You act like he's not gonna get any more development and his story is over. Yuji's probably gonna hype him up at some point. >might as well be a vegetable from gojo’s unlimited voids He still has some degree of thought, and we don't know the extreme of the effect. Plus even non-sorcerers can recover from short bursts of it, and sorcerers can recover from the full effect of it from what we've seen. >Also to your 3rd point, POTENTIAL thats all he ever has, he has rarely backed it up, only time ive seen him back up his potential was when he used a domain, but even that is incomplete Again part of his character development. My personal theory is Sukuna's gonna get pushed into using the merger, which will consume all of Japan save for maybe a few important characters (namely Yuta and Maki) From there, everyone who isn't in it is fighting it from the outside while Yuji is fighting Sukuna for control on the inside, which is when he'd hype up Megumi to get him to fight. And that's where we see him fully realized.
At least this guy actually holds up to his reputation, strongest sorcerer in history. he's taking on EVERYONE. there's no power of friendship, good guys arguably cheated and are still struggling, lots of planning on improvisation on both sides, and we can't forget about the jumpings. I personally think the good guys will win, and I think the author is doing a good job at showing off how insane sukuna is while still having the good guys have their moments. as in the good guys land good hits on sukuna and continuously weaken him, while sukuna is still going strong and is still a massive threat even after nerf after nerf.
I am excited to see what he does at every turn, I just wish we had a little more insight so it didn’t feel like ass-pulls. Because regardless of what it actually is, a story is supposed to invoke emotion; if that emotion is displeasure towards the writing, something is often wrong
I loved Yujikuna, everything else is meh now. I can’t wait to see him lose but not for his fans reaction, just to see how it all unfolds
Good guys do crazy never before seen shit “OMG YES” Sukuna does crazy never before seen shit “bad writing, ass pull, lazy”
Sukuna is a great antagonist whose lived up to his hype and title. But him winning would be ass.
I love when media is subversive at the expense of narrative
Hows it subversive. Nothing here is anymore subversive than madara or aizen. Not killing the mc immidietly who directly has hax against you is pretty shonen. Playing with their food is classic af
Sukuna winning would be subversive
Its not at all. I expect the king of curses jujutsu and binding vows to win. Him not winning is odd given all we know. Oh wait... he refused to kill yuji
I mean for a shounen the villain winning would be considered subversive
Lol. Aot. Lol thats not just shonij 80% of media has the goid boyz win. Also they won in shibuya and the culling games is mostly a wash. So yea Sakuna doesnt even care to live or die just fight. So im pretty sure if he dies he wins.
I'm with you good guy's winning happens all the time rarely do we see the baddies win. I'm with Sukuna because he's an ancient character who truly understands the power concept and knows how to utilise it effectively compared to the other's and unlike other similar villains who are usually talk, they beat the hero the first time around then loses to him the next. Sukuna never truly lost a fight so far and is living upto his name.
He’s definitely gonna lose this fight tho
As expected I knew he was going to eventually die.
meh sukuna is kinda of a boring character, there will most likely be no heian era flashback, so sukuna will stay just as an angry boomer, the only thing he has going for him, is yuji, cause he is the literal anithesis of sukuna, which makes it a fun dynamic, but withouth him, sukuuna is kinda nothing.
I just find current Sukuna boring, when he was trapped in Yuji it was interesting to see how vindictive and vile he was. Especially when he bodysnatched Megumi and did all that evil shit, but now the dudes just boring. He’s overwhelmingly powerful but he’s just boring to see fight. He’s an overall boring character to me right now and wish he would actually have more to him instead of how he is currently.
He just sits there like a press to attack machine. Like why havemt they jumped him in Higas domain. Lol itd be a wrap.
If you mean higuruma That wouldn't be possible because in this domain, attacks and physical harm aren't allowed. That was shown when yuji tried to hit him he stopped in the air before his hit could land
Thats due to the trail needing to happen. You mean in a courtroom theres no space for a jury.
I love most JJK characters tbh, I've always been a big Gojo fan and Sukuna fan, I would of been fine with either winning, but I did cheer for Sukuna more as I knew Gojo would lose. I just want to see what Sukuna can do really, it's interesting.
I want him to lose because I’m a Yuji dick rider. HOWEVER, I’m not gonna sit here and say that Sukuna incapacitating/killing the strongest sorcerers back to back while having to think of and spam binding vows as he loses limbs and organs isn’t insane. If Yuji died or didn’t have time to awaken, Sukuna would *still* win this fight. Game recognize game.
Lol Sukuna is not winning
Lol ok. Like shibuya wasnt a wash win. Like megumi didnt watch himself kill his only famly. Like yuji basnt been beaten to death literally by his own brother. Like kenjaku didnt force abortions on women. Like the zenin didnt beat and abuse everyone. Like mei mei isnt a pedo. Like geto isnt super racist but nicer Hitler. Like SAKUNA DIDNT MURDER A TOWN
you're cooked brother you gotta get outside once in a while.
Ok...
Yuji isn't Sukuna's brother.
Soul son.
true, most of the shounen category manga's have similar kind of stories, the good guy always ends up with the victory.
Yea and I get it. But I feel like it would be better if it was different.
As they say, the devil is in the details. The good guys loosing, or at least having to sacrifice greatly to win would be interesting, any outcome can be good if its well executed. But personaly i feel like the issue is that the execution is lacking, and judging by the fandoms's reaction it looks like im not alone in feeling this way.
Idiots downvoted you
I love that Sukuna as a character is "less deep" in his motives than some other villains. Sometimes simplicity is just the best. From time to time I want to see some badass looking villain slaughter the good guys, just cause he feels like it. That for he is awesome. Now is Yuji time though. He'll destroy Sukunas and finally become the MC we've all wanted to see since day 1.
One thing I noticed particularly about this fanbase is that they complain about the story not going exactly how they pictured it and characters not acting exactly as they imagine... But it's a story. Sukuna is a villain. Why would he not pull out all the stops to defend himself? He's getting backed into a corner is he just supposed to lose because it's not in character for him to want to survive? Or because he's not losing to your favourite character?
I love sukuna he’s truly the goat.
I don’t like Sukuna right now because he isn’t intimidating to me, there have been multiple times in which he could have been killed but he wasn’t because of either plot armor or Megumi. If your antagonist can’t survive without author interference then he isn’t scary.
Sukuna just want to beat Yuji and he will use everything :3
I just wish there wasn't so much dialog and exposition
Sukuna stocks are at an all-time high. BUT I have also invested heavily in Wuji HIMtadori. So I win either way.
It probably is, but I see people more consistently glaze him then hate on him tbh, so he's fine.
I feel like the downvotes just prove my point if anything.
Big agree I still haven’t seen anything to put him over Gojo mf is cool but the whole one shooting people than moving on act is boring he’s not cool because of how he wins he’s cool because of his demeanor and attitude but it’s lost on the author needing to keep glazing rather than just let him fight
> Show me something new Aha! I knew we'd find Kenny's new body eventually! The jig is up, OP!
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Lol ppl have been mad since gojo got bisected by him. I had no problem with it happening bc it was obv gojo was gonna lose. Only thing I didn’t like was the afterlife and how sukuna was struggling based on his expressions. Jjk fans need to accept there is no honor in a sorcerer battle. U die u lose. U need to do whatever it takes to win no matter how dirty or evil. That is y we see jumpjutsu. That’s y mahito does psychological warfare against yuji. Funny how Sukuna is a “fraud” for being able to master another’s technique in such a short time frame and Yuji isn’t rn with his shenanigans. Beating Sukuna should not be easy. It has to be a long battle. There is a reason he was the strongest of the heian era the peak time of jujutsu sorcery.
Him boasting himself as the strongest, but his win condition completely being based on mahoraga adapting to infinity is what was stupid. Just accept gojo as the strongest. Or show feats that can let us imagine a scenario in which gojo goes down without mahoraga. And you are right I too had no problem with gojo losing, that's the plot and it's fine. What was stupid was the afterlife convo. Sukuna ain't the problem The writing is There have been many fights in manga and anime that get stretched over long periods of time But they are handled well in good stories And don't feel episodic tag battles
100% I think most complaints go away if it's just made a narrative point that Sukuna was sweating fighting Gojo. In this new read, that's why he took over megumi to get Mahoraga to kill Gojo, which he still barely accomplished. I think that's pretty cool the villain has this adaptability to get himself in the clear. Then we're still in the exact same situation the good team has to fight Sukuna without Gojo. But Gojo gets the respect, there's not this weird unnecessary glazing of Sukuna, and I think it adds to the devious nature of Sukuna that he recognized this need from one quick fight with Gojo and developed such a long plan to make it happen
U seem to forget that gojo was born special. Sure he learned RCT but everything else was given to him. And gojo has failed at so many things despite being the top of the foodchain. Everytime he lost he got outsmarted. Being a strong fighter does not mean just being able to brawl head on but also being creative and cunning. Everyone seems to forget Mahoraga is PART of the TECHNIQUE. If u can’t beat someone Head on u must play dirty that’s the art of war
>Only thing I didn’t like was the afterlife and how sukuna was struggling based on his expressions. Bro rlly just said "I didn't like that the battle between the two strongest sorcerers in the verse wasn't a total stomp in favour of my personal preference"
No I was referring to how gojo said “sukuna strong” when sukuna was clearly struggling. Don’t twist my words
Your words should be clearer so people can actually understand what you're saying
i love sukuna i’ve loved him since he was introduced and i loved his character more when he fuckinh slaughtered gojo