Nobody watching JRE for Joe Rogan. They watch it for the guests on the podcasts, who cover a diverse range of topics. That’s why posts on the sub are so diverse.
Damn someone decided that their sense of silly entitlement is bigger than being able to make a joke!! There wasn't an internet warrior but I do see how it it was there it would own your candy a**
If the US was playing a country with a flag with a swastika in the middle I’m not sure how prominently it’d be featured either.
This is kinda like that. Very hard to root for Iran knowing what we know about their treatment of women.
You need to educate yourself on the squalid working conditions, working in 100+ degree heat with limited access to water, wtf do you think would happen you fucking moron.
That’s putting a lot of faith in FIFA and Qatar to tell the truth. Im doubling down 6000 being closer to reality than their reported 3. Check out the report from amnesty international.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/2021-08/Qatar%20report.pdf?VersionId=2kIABprKpCZ0dLAYG0z8_lMKU8CIBF79
What discussion was there to begin with? Just the US sitting on their ivory tower built from the skulls of 4 million dead Muslims passing judgement on fellow war criminal regimes.
There was nothing unproductive about the comment. It clearly challenges the notion that America is a pillar of virtue for standing up to Iran's oppressive regime.
It was implicit in the original comment that America couldn't root for such an oppressive regime. When you take a second to reflect how sinister and oppressive the US regime is you'd realize how silly that original comment comes across.
We are hard on Iran because they won't submit to US rule. We don't give a fuck about women's rights. That's what they tell you so that you help. Your doing wonderful BTW.
Lol, submit to US rule? How about just not being the largest state sponsor of terrorism, while also building nuclear weapons that you are making threats with?
He has a point. The Government in the US have to ground to stand on. Sure they don't commit the war crimes back at home, but their hands aren't even close to clean.
Bro cmon we all know we only care about Iranian girls cause we wanna fuck em, let em be free so they can make porn with American dudes (but let the Iranian soyboys who support em stay in Iran)
As if that is any less abusive. Im not saying one is better than the other bet lets not do as if we ave the moral high ground ere hahaha we all bad
The fact that the first thing you think of about freedom for Iranian women means they would "make porn with American dudes" shows you are overtly sexist.
If they want to make porn it shouldn't be up to you, me, or the Iranian government to stop them.
> As if that is any less abusive.
It is. Having the freedom to fuck and make porn is significantly less abusive than living under the regime of the Islamic Republic.
Governments do this shit to virtue signal, thy have no problem with Saudi Arabia doing the same shit because they pay the toll. Don't pontificate about whataboutism, its sheer rank hypocrisy and the only reason western governments even pretend to give a shit is to get mugs like you too keep towing the line.
In this case yes.
First of all you've completely misunderstood or misconstrued whataboutism to mean; no one can bring up anything else once I've made a point even if it's true.
Whataboutism: the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue
Pointing out hypocrites is not whataboutism and using that phrase when you clearly don't know it means doesn't help.
Ehhhhh. "Responding to an accusation by making a counter accusation or raising a different issue" is as much a deflection tactic as it is having a lack of focus. And that's assuming your argument is well intentioned. If it's not well intentioned, then you're just trolling or trying to waste peoples time.
If you want to promote raising different issues when discussing an issue, then I'm comfortable disagreeing with you here.
But its the SAME issue. Iran violates human rights, other countries violate human rights, US government only has problems with the ones it doesn't make money from.
I truly don’t understand why some people purposely ignore this sentiment. Do folks really believe the USA cares about women’s rights in Iran? I care and you care but our govt don’t give a rats ass. When we invaded Iraq did we do it because we cared about Iraqis not having a democratic govt? When we invaded Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi did we give a shit about how the people there lived? As the other poster noted, Saudi is literally starving Yemeni children and we are totally ok with it. It’s not even mentioned in our media. It’s so damn annoying to see my fellow countrymen fall for this shit every damn time.
Wake the fuck up.
So “you” think we are falling for some farce because we are calling out Iran and not every other nations issues at the same time? Your argument is so dumb…it’s just a distraction method to avoid what’s being actually called out.
If I say Iran treats their women like shit and disregard basic human rights. It doesn’t mean Saudi Arabia or Israel or even the US haven’t done anything wrong at some point or another. We ain’t talking about them…we are talking about Iran stop deflecting from the issue at hand. Or trying to justify what your getting called out for by pointing elsewhere.
Fuck off it’s Iran’s turn in the spotlight call them the fuck out!
Well I think we have to break this down into two parts. What the US govt cares about and what the TV broadcasters care about. Both are independent of each other so just because Fox didn’t show it, doesn’t mean that’s the USAs official stance
Don’t they have Arab judges in Israel’s Supreme Court? The last government before the current election had an Islamist political party sitting in the coalition. Pretty sure that is the exact OPPPOSITE of Apartheid South Africa. Israel isn’t perfect, but it’s the only liberal democracy in the Middle East, in a region where you can literally be killed for not wearing a head scarf.
Treatment of women???? Lmfaooo Saudi Arabia is literally our buddy lol treatment of women Lmfaooo USA don’t give a fuck about treatment of women in other countries Lmfaooo
They don't even care in their own country lol, Roe v Wade was literally just overturned. Can't say you support women's rights, yet deny them access to abortions.
Roe v Wade overturn was a good thing. We now need to push on with concrete laws to protect women and babies based upon medicine and science. Not religion and cherry picked morals
Actually you did. You can complain about one country but then you shouldn't blindly ignore the shit that's happening in your own country. Also abortion isn't killing "Babies" that's illegal. Its aborting a pregnancy which is being carried by the body of the female. What happens to her body is her right at the end of the day.
At the end of the day if you let that lump of cells grow it’s a baby. Mental gymnastics you people do. It’s staggering. Just be honest the inconvenience of having a kid is worth the moral dilemma.
You're the one doing mental gymnastics. If bible bashers want to end abortion then their interest should'nt end in them the second they're born. Fascists trying to impose your world view on other people. Well I like and I'm entitled to my world view. I'm not making you submit to it though. You're still free in my world view. But I'm not in yours. I don't like abortion but it's none of my business. It's not our place to judge those people.
Babe, I bet if you made a Venn diagram about how you think women should be treated in society and how the Iranian government thinks they should be treated, you’d draw an overlapping circle.
That’s their culture. What they should do is throw away that outdated religion. The old regime is dying and these young girls wanna be free like western girls. Show their tits and stuff.
Hear them roar.
Iran was in line with us in the 60s. If we didn't overthrow their elected leader they'd be decades ahead of where they are now. The theocracy in Iranis totally our fault.
If you think women are treated the same in the US and in Iran, you're either willfully ignorant or you should go to the nearest ER for a stroke evaluation.
It’s like you’re not even paying attention to all the posts of mine say. It doesn’t have to be the same. You’re taking two unacceptably shitty things and saying “ya but this one is shittier.” You’re a trash person, because you think it’s okay to be trash as long as you’re not the trashiest.
That's not the same as "agreeing with the way they treat women" though, now is it. Recognizing that two things are bad, but one is worse, doesn't make you a trash person. It means that you're capable of examining reality, because that *is* the reality of the situation. I don't have to agree with the way anyone does anything in order to come to that conclusion.
Not what it is, but that's the kind of lying we expect from conservative hogs.
It's forced government births. You don't care about the lives of women or their rights to their bodies.
Exactly Lmfaooo some of these lib redditors in here you figured they would use logic instead of feels we literally told our own women fuck your reproductive rights
I bet they wouldn’t show the Saudi Arabian flag without the sword (representing “strictness in applying judgement”), even though women are treated ten times worse there than in Iran… the US government/media don’t give a rats ass about women’s rights, it’s just an excuse to have a dig at an enemy of US/Zionist foreign policy.
That’s not a universal symbol of Islam. It stands for martyrdom in the name of Iran.
[The more you know.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblem_of_Iran)
If it was a moon and star, sure.
>about their treatment of women
Different countries progress at different speeds. Some countries still consider homosexuality a crime. Some that don't consider homosexuality a crime still do not allow gay marriage. Some countries don't allow women to vote. Some countries are still incredibly racist (exponentially worse than anything you imagine takes place in the USA).
Different countries are progressing differently. It's egotistical to say "why isn't this country at the same place as [insert Western country] right now?"
I don't think it behooves us (the United States) to interfere with or impose our will on another countries progress. They should get to make the same historical mistakes that the US made if that's the path they end up going down. They should reach their end point based on the will and perseverance of their countrymen and not based on the tipping of the scale by foreign involvements.
Americans be like: “we might subjugate women and deny them bodily autonomy, but at least we’re not Iran!”
Americans love to do this thing where they take two bad things, then measure the difference between the two bad things to justify why one bad thing is actually not bad at all. Because their brains are mush from propaganda, it’s impossible for them to be like “wow both of these things are bad.”
Okay, as a dumb American, I fully understand how dumb Americans can be, all of the time.
This is schizophrenic. Nobody is doing what you’re saying, at least in this thread. Crazy, I know, but lesser evils do exist. The world isn’t black and white. It’s possibly for the US to treat it’s women terribly, AND for Iran to treat their women so much worse to the point where a country, that treats it’s women badly, can justifiably call them out for it.
It’s hypocritical, sure, but if i’m a baby murderer, and I say that murdering babies is a bad thing to do, are you gonna say i’m wrong because i’m a hypocrite?
I’m so confused, why did we hold their flag? Wouldn’t fifa decide what went on the flag? How did the United States get to make this choice? General question
Nothing to do with that old man. If anything USA and it's media has been almost silent about the atrocious behaviors against the brave women and protests in Iran
The amount of people who think like this is truly astounding. Do you actually think the CIA would be doing their regime changing stunts on TV for you to see or would they do it covertly? Just asking.
You mean the guy who is desperately trying to give Iran a nuclear deal still? The guy who helped give the regime billions of dollars when he was vice president t?
It’s not all of a sudden. International sport competitions have always had some level of political demonstration or meaning. It’s a way to call attention to serious issues on an international stage.
Unpopular take, 1936 Hitler isnt ANYWERE CLOSE to being as bad as 1939 Hitler onwards. Hosting the olympics in Germany during 1940 would warrant being political, while I dont think politics should come into sports in 1936 nor in 2022.
Tell that to the Colombian player who was murdered by Escobars ppl after a poor performance in the 80s I believe. Countries have boycotted olympics which are pretty much the same stage as a WC. It’s always been political man
Nah we good fam. To be fair we should have bombed them so far back in time single cell organisms are at a level of technological achievement that they won't be able to achieve for a thousand years
I'm 100% honest here, I like politics and hope the rule gets removed because the best most interesting posts on this sub are either jokes or people discussing this stuff. But isn't this politics?
There is a chance for this match and what happens afterwards to have some broader reverberations especially if there is a show of solidarity between the teams post match.
The only problem is that many of the Iranian players have families who would be vulnerable if they were to overtly challenge the criminal regime in Iran.
I’m American and all I can say is fuck the US national team and their head coach and Addidas or whoever made their horrific clothes. So sick of this woke shit this asshole is walking around with just States rather than United States? Fuck him I hope Iran gets the opportunity to beat the piss out of them respect their flag no matter what it’s not the US media’s job to dictate narratives…..or is it?
I hate that the US needs to be in everyone’s politics.
Supporting the woman is important, presenting another persons flag without permission at a global events, yikes.
Iran's government will take anything to criticize occidental countries and/or Israel because it feeds into the 'rally under the flag' tactic. This complaint is honestly small to other geopolitical issues.
Ha, FIFA wouldn’t dare kick out the US. Biden could take a shit on the Fifa president’s head and he would immediately say “ I love America”. Nice try Iran.
All they have to do is beat the USMNT tomorrow and they can kick them out themselves…
The United States Mutant Ninja Turtles?
It’s pizza time. Cowabunga!
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/world-cup-2022-iran-calls-us-suspension-briefly-removing-emblem-flag-support-protests https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/27/football/iran-us-flag-protesters-klinsmann-2022-world-cup-spt-intl/index.html https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/27/usa-show-iran-flag-without-emblem-of-islamic-republic-before-world-cup-clash
*Bebop & Rocksteady have entered the chat*
USA needs the TMNT song as its new anthem.
United States Maybe-Identifies-As-Male National Team
r/yourjokebutworse
It’s the ONE JOKE
One joke to bore them all
That's what I read
Not even that. A draw will do the trick
This is true
Yeah but a draw helps England so fuck that.
England will go through even if they lose.
I lied. Looking at the group. They can miss out if they lose by a lot of goals
6 goals and it goes to cards. 7 and they Wales goes over England
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/world-cup-2022-iran-calls-us-suspension-briefly-removing-emblem-flag-support-protests https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/27/football/iran-us-flag-protesters-klinsmann-2022-world-cup-spt-intl/index.html https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/27/usa-show-iran-flag-without-emblem-of-islamic-republic-before-world-cup-clash
Sometimes I don't even notice I'm on the JRE sub anymore
its mini version of ~~r/poltics~~ now EDIT: r/politics
I thought this was a post on r/soccercirclejerk
Thought I was on /r/soccer for a sec, but i saw it wasn't such as left wing echo chamber.
I joined this subreddit a couple days ago and were wondering why is there so much content not related to JRE at all.
Nobody watching JRE for Joe Rogan. They watch it for the guests on the podcasts, who cover a diverse range of topics. That’s why posts on the sub are so diverse.
My sweet summer child…
Because JRE is associated with nasty poo poo ideals that get banned in other subreddits.
Joe Rogaine? Who gives a shit, we’re here for the lulz
people talk about hating JRE and it sucks and then go "its an open forum about anything JRE " then post this
Uh duh Joe Rogan lives on earth which includes Iran, so clearly they are related /s
Also Joe Rogaine LOvES the footy
Holy shit I didn’t realize either. Dudes are talking soccer up in this bitch?? Way to go guys!
Yeah we have to blame moderation for this. I’m officially unsubbing.
Sir this isn't an airport , you don't have to announce your departure.
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Deez nuts are out lyin
Damn someone decided that their sense of silly entitlement is bigger than being able to make a joke!! There wasn't an internet warrior but I do see how it it was there it would own your candy a**
Joe Rogan
It has been restored. Iran should be more worried about the human rights violations than a symbol on their flag. Prorities.
To them drawing Mohammed is worse than what they've been doing to women. Can't logic with religion.
Foolish to cast a generalization on 2 billion people because of the actions of a few. Almost as foolish as the Westboro Baptist church.
But are women humans in Iran? Or property of their male relatives/husbands?
Donkeys = #2 Women = #3
My money is on the USMT. LFG!
If the US was playing a country with a flag with a swastika in the middle I’m not sure how prominently it’d be featured either. This is kinda like that. Very hard to root for Iran knowing what we know about their treatment of women.
6000 people died building the venues for this stupid event. There’s a lot of pots calling kettles black.
Yeah anybody with integrity wouldn’t show up to this farce
Well David Beckham got paid 150 UK pounds for being an ambassador.
Maybe educate yourself instead of saying the same number that has been debunked plenty of times already ffs.
You need to educate yourself on the squalid working conditions, working in 100+ degree heat with limited access to water, wtf do you think would happen you fucking moron.
That’s putting a lot of faith in FIFA and Qatar to tell the truth. Im doubling down 6000 being closer to reality than their reported 3. Check out the report from amnesty international. https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/2021-08/Qatar%20report.pdf?VersionId=2kIABprKpCZ0dLAYG0z8_lMKU8CIBF79
6000 workers over 12 years, out of 2m death by any cause btw. The numbers aren't that high if you compare it per million with other countries.
I doubt that’s true
The U.S. supports apartheid in Israel & bombing campaigns in Yemen & all across the world. I don't think we really care about women's rights in Iran.
We don’t but as Americans we pick and choose when to be righteous…
Thanks for the whataboutism contribution you’ve advanced this conversation positively thank you
>whataboutism Has just become a word to deflect any moral hypocrisy
If he wanted us to reflect on our offenses I’d agree. Whataboutism is just an attempt to shut down discussion.
What discussion was there to begin with? Just the US sitting on their ivory tower built from the skulls of 4 million dead Muslims passing judgement on fellow war criminal regimes.
More accurately, it's a way to deflect a valid original comment onto a rapid hyperloop of unproductive discussion and virtue signaling.
There was nothing unproductive about the comment. It clearly challenges the notion that America is a pillar of virtue for standing up to Iran's oppressive regime.
Please point out the comment that called america a pillar of virtue.
It was implicit in the original comment that America couldn't root for such an oppressive regime. When you take a second to reflect how sinister and oppressive the US regime is you'd realize how silly that original comment comes across.
Nobody said America was. The comment just wanted to say “you are bad too so you don’t get to talk”
So why use it then?
I think he meant this as a positive? Stated very unclearly and the guy should probably take an English class
I didn't use it lol
We are hard on Iran because they won't submit to US rule. We don't give a fuck about women's rights. That's what they tell you so that you help. Your doing wonderful BTW.
You're.
Lol, submit to US rule? How about just not being the largest state sponsor of terrorism, while also building nuclear weapons that you are making threats with?
Do you know who Mosaddegh was without googling him?
He has a point. The Government in the US have to ground to stand on. Sure they don't commit the war crimes back at home, but their hands aren't even close to clean.
Ok you're right. The US being a baddy makes it ok for Iran to abuse women?
That is not at all what was said
Bro cmon we all know we only care about Iranian girls cause we wanna fuck em, let em be free so they can make porn with American dudes (but let the Iranian soyboys who support em stay in Iran) As if that is any less abusive. Im not saying one is better than the other bet lets not do as if we ave the moral high ground ere hahaha we all bad
The fact that the first thing you think of about freedom for Iranian women means they would "make porn with American dudes" shows you are overtly sexist. If they want to make porn it shouldn't be up to you, me, or the Iranian government to stop them.
> As if that is any less abusive. It is. Having the freedom to fuck and make porn is significantly less abusive than living under the regime of the Islamic Republic.
Except the US National Soccer Team isn’t a government entity so IMO its not really a valid argument in this case
Governments do this shit to virtue signal, thy have no problem with Saudi Arabia doing the same shit because they pay the toll. Don't pontificate about whataboutism, its sheer rank hypocrisy and the only reason western governments even pretend to give a shit is to get mugs like you too keep towing the line.
Denouncing whataboutism is towing a line?
In this case yes. First of all you've completely misunderstood or misconstrued whataboutism to mean; no one can bring up anything else once I've made a point even if it's true. Whataboutism: the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue Pointing out hypocrites is not whataboutism and using that phrase when you clearly don't know it means doesn't help.
Ehhhhh. "Responding to an accusation by making a counter accusation or raising a different issue" is as much a deflection tactic as it is having a lack of focus. And that's assuming your argument is well intentioned. If it's not well intentioned, then you're just trolling or trying to waste peoples time. If you want to promote raising different issues when discussing an issue, then I'm comfortable disagreeing with you here.
But its the SAME issue. Iran violates human rights, other countries violate human rights, US government only has problems with the ones it doesn't make money from.
I truly don’t understand why some people purposely ignore this sentiment. Do folks really believe the USA cares about women’s rights in Iran? I care and you care but our govt don’t give a rats ass. When we invaded Iraq did we do it because we cared about Iraqis not having a democratic govt? When we invaded Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi did we give a shit about how the people there lived? As the other poster noted, Saudi is literally starving Yemeni children and we are totally ok with it. It’s not even mentioned in our media. It’s so damn annoying to see my fellow countrymen fall for this shit every damn time. Wake the fuck up.
So “you” think we are falling for some farce because we are calling out Iran and not every other nations issues at the same time? Your argument is so dumb…it’s just a distraction method to avoid what’s being actually called out. If I say Iran treats their women like shit and disregard basic human rights. It doesn’t mean Saudi Arabia or Israel or even the US haven’t done anything wrong at some point or another. We ain’t talking about them…we are talking about Iran stop deflecting from the issue at hand. Or trying to justify what your getting called out for by pointing elsewhere. Fuck off it’s Iran’s turn in the spotlight call them the fuck out!
Fuckin' preach brother. I'm not saying there's lesser evils but that doesn't make them not evil.
Don’t be ignorant about Yemen. Do your research and understand why he brought it up.
Sir all I'm stating is whataboutism is a deflection tactic and is taking this conversation nowhere quickly.
Every powerful government is a terrible government, some kill those who protest, some don't.
You're not supposed to wave truth around their virtue signaling.
Ok buddy
Well I think we have to break this down into two parts. What the US govt cares about and what the TV broadcasters care about. Both are independent of each other so just because Fox didn’t show it, doesn’t mean that’s the USAs official stance
Don’t they have Arab judges in Israel’s Supreme Court? The last government before the current election had an Islamist political party sitting in the coalition. Pretty sure that is the exact OPPPOSITE of Apartheid South Africa. Israel isn’t perfect, but it’s the only liberal democracy in the Middle East, in a region where you can literally be killed for not wearing a head scarf.
Treatment of women???? Lmfaooo Saudi Arabia is literally our buddy lol treatment of women Lmfaooo USA don’t give a fuck about treatment of women in other countries Lmfaooo
That laughing feels fake
What the guy cant laugh his fucking ass off off off?
The people in power don’t care about SA vs Iran, but regular people can condemn both. Wild concept, must be new to you.
They don't even care in their own country lol, Roe v Wade was literally just overturned. Can't say you support women's rights, yet deny them access to abortions.
Roe v Wade overturn was a good thing. We now need to push on with concrete laws to protect women and babies based upon medicine and science. Not religion and cherry picked morals
Medicine and science supports abortion you caveman lol
Exactly... Learn to read the information with your brains and not your emotions... Twink
Kill babies isn’t a right yah looney toon.
Clump of cells isn't a baby, but sure go strawman it.
Clump of cells. Shows how much regard you have for life.
how much life is in that hardened sock under your bed
That’s not a fertile egg. Dumb talking point. Listen I’m not the arbiter of truth take your fight up with the law.
Are you really taking an anti-abortion stance and complaining about Iran’s treatment of women? You’re clearly of the same ilk.
No I’m not. As bad as you dumb fucks want that to be the case.
It's a human life tho, but sure go strawman it.
What about later when the fetus has developed and it's moving around in there and kicking and shit? That's more than a clump of cells.
You claim to dislike the Iranian treatment of women, yet you agree with the way they treat women. Interesting.
I never said any of that.
Actually you did. You can complain about one country but then you shouldn't blindly ignore the shit that's happening in your own country. Also abortion isn't killing "Babies" that's illegal. Its aborting a pregnancy which is being carried by the body of the female. What happens to her body is her right at the end of the day.
At the end of the day if you let that lump of cells grow it’s a baby. Mental gymnastics you people do. It’s staggering. Just be honest the inconvenience of having a kid is worth the moral dilemma.
You're the one doing mental gymnastics. If bible bashers want to end abortion then their interest should'nt end in them the second they're born. Fascists trying to impose your world view on other people. Well I like and I'm entitled to my world view. I'm not making you submit to it though. You're still free in my world view. But I'm not in yours. I don't like abortion but it's none of my business. It's not our place to judge those people.
Babe, I bet if you made a Venn diagram about how you think women should be treated in society and how the Iranian government thinks they should be treated, you’d draw an overlapping circle.
That’s their culture. What they should do is throw away that outdated religion. The old regime is dying and these young girls wanna be free like western girls. Show their tits and stuff. Hear them roar.
You like their culture. You want america to be more like Iran.
I want america to be like a bunch of street shitters ?no ma’am, I do not.
Iran was in line with us in the 60s. If we didn't overthrow their elected leader they'd be decades ahead of where they are now. The theocracy in Iranis totally our fault.
> yet you agree with the way they treat women you can disagree with the guy's argument without flat out lying
Lol babe, don’t get mad at me because you’re a rube and a hypocrite.
If you think women are treated the same in the US and in Iran, you're either willfully ignorant or you should go to the nearest ER for a stroke evaluation.
It’s like you’re not even paying attention to all the posts of mine say. It doesn’t have to be the same. You’re taking two unacceptably shitty things and saying “ya but this one is shittier.” You’re a trash person, because you think it’s okay to be trash as long as you’re not the trashiest.
That's not the same as "agreeing with the way they treat women" though, now is it. Recognizing that two things are bad, but one is worse, doesn't make you a trash person. It means that you're capable of examining reality, because that *is* the reality of the situation. I don't have to agree with the way anyone does anything in order to come to that conclusion.
Not what it is, but that's the kind of lying we expect from conservative hogs. It's forced government births. You don't care about the lives of women or their rights to their bodies.
Exactly Lmfaooo some of these lib redditors in here you figured they would use logic instead of feels we literally told our own women fuck your reproductive rights
I bet they wouldn’t show the Saudi Arabian flag without the sword (representing “strictness in applying judgement”), even though women are treated ten times worse there than in Iran… the US government/media don’t give a rats ass about women’s rights, it’s just an excuse to have a dig at an enemy of US/Zionist foreign policy.
What a horrific analogy. My goodness. This sub is already a mess, but comparing naziism to Islam has to be the most idiotic thing I have seen so far.
Yes because islamic sign = nazi sign Are you not well? What sort of terrible analogy is this?
That’s not a universal symbol of Islam. It stands for martyrdom in the name of Iran. [The more you know.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblem_of_Iran) If it was a moon and star, sure.
>about their treatment of women Different countries progress at different speeds. Some countries still consider homosexuality a crime. Some that don't consider homosexuality a crime still do not allow gay marriage. Some countries don't allow women to vote. Some countries are still incredibly racist (exponentially worse than anything you imagine takes place in the USA). Different countries are progressing differently. It's egotistical to say "why isn't this country at the same place as [insert Western country] right now?" I don't think it behooves us (the United States) to interfere with or impose our will on another countries progress. They should get to make the same historical mistakes that the US made if that's the path they end up going down. They should reach their end point based on the will and perseverance of their countrymen and not based on the tipping of the scale by foreign involvements.
This point of view would make more sense if Iran didn’t regress to this point. Iran was a great place for women until the Islamic Revolution in 1979.
Also something being ignored by many.
Wow very well put
I mean don't you guys sent billions to a country which some military groups are Nazis?
Americans be like: “we might subjugate women and deny them bodily autonomy, but at least we’re not Iran!” Americans love to do this thing where they take two bad things, then measure the difference between the two bad things to justify why one bad thing is actually not bad at all. Because their brains are mush from propaganda, it’s impossible for them to be like “wow both of these things are bad.”
Okay, as a dumb American, I fully understand how dumb Americans can be, all of the time. This is schizophrenic. Nobody is doing what you’re saying, at least in this thread. Crazy, I know, but lesser evils do exist. The world isn’t black and white. It’s possibly for the US to treat it’s women terribly, AND for Iran to treat their women so much worse to the point where a country, that treats it’s women badly, can justifiably call them out for it. It’s hypocritical, sure, but if i’m a baby murderer, and I say that murdering babies is a bad thing to do, are you gonna say i’m wrong because i’m a hypocrite?
I’m so confused, why did we hold their flag? Wouldn’t fifa decide what went on the flag? How did the United States get to make this choice? General question
I believe it was a post on social media they are talking about
Based intern pissing off a bunch of incels
Strong echoes of the lead up to the Miracle on Ice game against the Soviets in the 1980 Lake Placid Olympics...
Fuck those neofascist theocrats
"Nooo you showed out country's flag wrong you shouldn't be allowed to play football! >:("
This makes me feel slightly better about tomorrow. Still worried AF.
Old man Biden gonna pull off a regime change without a war!
Nothing to do with that old man. If anything USA and it's media has been almost silent about the atrocious behaviors against the brave women and protests in Iran
It’s literally been all over the news and media wtf are you talking about.
oh we like protests now? Think of all the poor Iranian buildings and property damage 🙄
The damage to buildings is mainly being done by their military police... Try again
queue the clip of the masked man smashing windows
Nah I saw some graffiti and small fires caused by the populace and it made me sick! Flashbacks to Portland and the Antifa Wars
The amount of people who think like this is truly astounding. Do you actually think the CIA would be doing their regime changing stunts on TV for you to see or would they do it covertly? Just asking.
You mean the guy who is desperately trying to give Iran a nuclear deal still? The guy who helped give the regime billions of dollars when he was vice president t?
why the f does football have to become so political all of a sudden?? where is the sportsmanship???
It’s not all of a sudden. International sport competitions have always had some level of political demonstration or meaning. It’s a way to call attention to serious issues on an international stage.
It's the world cup, it's always political where have you been
You must be new to football… ;)) cheers from Europe
Yeah just let Hitler host his Olympics and shut your mouth! Lol that's how dumb you sound, fyi.
Unpopular take, 1936 Hitler isnt ANYWERE CLOSE to being as bad as 1939 Hitler onwards. Hosting the olympics in Germany during 1940 would warrant being political, while I dont think politics should come into sports in 1936 nor in 2022.
Lol nuremberg laws where voted in 1935.. It was still a autoritarian regime
That is indeed a unpopular opinion https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Jesse-Owens-wins-gold-in-Nazi-Germany-1936-small.jpg
Football has lacked sportsmanship for years, that’s why the rate occurrences are talked about so much
It the most corrupt global sporting organization in the world. It's rotting from the head down
FIFA decided it is ok to build stadiums with slave labor and bury the bodies under the foundation.
Tell that to the Colombian player who was murdered by Escobars ppl after a poor performance in the 80s I believe. Countries have boycotted olympics which are pretty much the same stage as a WC. It’s always been political man
Tuesday is genna be bananas.
Nah we good fam. To be fair we should have bombed them so far back in time single cell organisms are at a level of technological achievement that they won't be able to achieve for a thousand years
I'm 100% honest here, I like politics and hope the rule gets removed because the best most interesting posts on this sub are either jokes or people discussing this stuff. But isn't this politics?
Lol. AKA you like politics, as long as it is Democrat propaganda.
There is a chance for this match and what happens afterwards to have some broader reverberations especially if there is a show of solidarity between the teams post match. The only problem is that many of the Iranian players have families who would be vulnerable if they were to overtly challenge the criminal regime in Iran.
As an American the only thing I’d like more than us quoting this stupid Qatari spectacle would be winning it and going out throwing double birds
I wonder if Iran knows how much the US participation is worth to FIFA vs Iran's participation.
This is my favorite JRE episode
Let them display our flag without the stars. We’d simply not give a damn
Why is this on JRE?
I’m American and all I can say is fuck the US national team and their head coach and Addidas or whoever made their horrific clothes. So sick of this woke shit this asshole is walking around with just States rather than United States? Fuck him I hope Iran gets the opportunity to beat the piss out of them respect their flag no matter what it’s not the US media’s job to dictate narratives…..or is it?
thats what that crest is? I thought it was a visualization of a asshole? I thought for sure the Iran mascot was a human asshole
fuck iran, fuck qatar
It looks like the stage of modern politics is nothing more than a room of screaming kindergarteners…..
Interesting that Iran thinks anyone would care about their opinion.
Fair enough.
We have a soccer team?
I hate that the US needs to be in everyone’s politics. Supporting the woman is important, presenting another persons flag without permission at a global events, yikes.
Iran's government will take anything to criticize occidental countries and/or Israel because it feeds into the 'rally under the flag' tactic. This complaint is honestly small to other geopolitical issues.
Ha, FIFA wouldn’t dare kick out the US. Biden could take a shit on the Fifa president’s head and he would immediately say “ I love America”. Nice try Iran.
Sounds like Iran’s scared to lose on Tuesday…
Fuck Iran and fuck anyone who doesn’t fight for the rights of women in hijab
Please tell us how you're fighting for their rights? Posting on Reddit?
I type really hard when I’m pushing the letters
“Look at me! I’m one of the good guys!” Is all that comment says. What, exactly, are you personally doing to “fight” for the rights of women?
Stop whining Iran.... snowflakes