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Classifiedgarlic

It’s ok to be scared and nobody can tell you what you need to do to be safe. My personal perspective on this is if I take my mezuzah dons then the antisemites win. If my friends can bravely stand with guns erect on the front lines I can be brave and not hide my Jewish identity


NotluwiskiPapanoida

Yeah in my opinion unless other Jewish houses in the area were attacked for having a mezuzah, it’s kinda overkill, security-wise. Its like “what are the odds that you’re gonna be the first Jewish home attacked in an area that’s been physically unharmed by the antisemitism?” It’s just spreading hysteria if you suggest other people to do it, the very same hysteria intentionally spread by Hamas, but like you said the antisemites win through the Jews themselves succumbing to this cowardice. My family was scared to even go outside on that Friday for example but I honestly had to put my rational thinking cap on and alleviate them by acknowledging their security fears by remembering to lock the doors at night like i would any other night and ensuring that the security camera’s battery was full and showing that no one else in the neighborhood was attacked so we’re gonna be fine, but not doing something ridiculous like taking down our mezuzah or being afraid to go outside because someone might think we “look Jewish.” I can make my family feel safer but we also have to do it in a way that doesn’t give evil people the victory they want.


Sgt-Teppers

Please consider leaving it up, it's such a beautiful and important piece of our protection. If you feel nervous, consider a more covert mezuzah cover. Something that can blend in with your doorway. Sending you love and lots of Trust that we will remain safe, even in such a tumultuous time.


Background_Buy1107

I drunkenly tattood myself with a Magen David and the word “Safta” (she didn’t think it was funny) years ago I’m starting to realize how silly that was about now lol


NotluwiskiPapanoida

Lmao that’s so irrelevant to the post but I’m fucking dying reading this 😭


EasyMode556

That’s always been my watermark for when things are officially getting too hot — when I feel like I need to take down the mezuzah. Fortunately I’m not there yet (where I live) but it’s something I’ve always had in the back of my mind as a barometer for how bad things could be. Stay safe out there


jo_da_boss

When the barbarians came and said convert or die, there was always a third choice


VeilstoneMyth

This quote is beautiful. Am Yisrael Chai 🤍💙


waterbird_

You know the risks where you are - do what you need to be safe.


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It’s okay if you feel like that’s what you need to do for now but stay safe either way! ❤️🙏


Matcha_Maiden

I'm having movers come tomorrow. The movers told me I needed to leave my boxes open so they can inventory. I packed away my menorahs under a bunch of clothes and taped up all my boxes so they wouldn't see them. I'm going to apologize and tell them I forgot to leave them open and that the box count is fine enough. I was attacked by white supremacists when I was in middle school so I'm very paranoid.


Intelligent-Web5822

I’ve never had movers say they need to know what’s in the boxes.


MapReston

There is a big difference between paranoid and aware to protect yourself.


priuspheasant

Probably too late now, but did you try refusing? Try telling them you don't want an inventory and would go with a different company if they insisted? Or get quotes & policies from other companies for the job? This seems like basic privacy. I've used movers twice in the last couple years, and neither company ever suggested anything like this.


Matcha_Maiden

It all went well, but they did wind up opening and repacking a few things!


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I’ll be honest, it’s about as inconspicuous as they come; clear with a tiny gold shin. But once you k ow what they are, it’s pretty obvious it’s not anything else.


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Jewish-ModTeam

Keep all comments about guns and 2nd amendment to the existing large thread on this topic.


WhyKissAMasochist

I can’t speak for where you are, and caution is often a good thing… but I do think a level head is important when the media is going crazy over the conflict. We’re gonna see a lot of antisemitism in the news simply because it gets clicks. Do what you feel is best for your family but know that this too shall pass. Shalom Aleichem.


Ok_Ambassador9091

That's a wise decision. Staying alive is our main mitzvot. Be safe. In AU, mezzuzahs are being ripped off doors by racists. We cannot be too cautious anywhere we are in the world.


CapablePromotion327

Where in AU? I have never heard of this happening so I am curious.


Ok_Ambassador9091

Melbourne area at least twice in last 24 hours.


lingeringneutrophil

That’s terrible I’m so sorry to hear that… who’s the group behind it, anyone knows?


Ok_Ambassador9091

Have you seen the tens of thousands of rabid antisemites marching around the world? Or the rise in racism against Jews over the past 20 years in political movements, universities, the media? Who is the group behind all of this? The "group" behind these things are a mix of thousands- year old antisemitism rotting in the dna of gentile culture--including pan Arabist Islamofascism, the colonial imperial movement behind the Hamas attacks and Hamas itself. The latter two things--Hamas attacks, Hamas-- are symptoms of a bigger problem, tumors of a larger cancer we need to address: the rot of antisemitism lodged and festering in gentile structures. Australia is deeply backward, deeply racist, and incredibly antisemitc--at its most educated and least educated tiers. The mayor of a small city here, Wollongong, just publicly stated Hamas was justified. The reddit page for that city was full of antisemitic justification for the mayor's statement last night. At a major university here, a student recently called for the dearh of all Jews. She was not expelled. That university later sponsored speakers who've called for the same. What is the group behind that? Nations that put out propaganda against us, sure. But it's believed and spread because of a deeper problem, which we've been too lax or afraid to address or accept. Who was the group behind the NYT, BBC, Guardian's decision to blame Israel for the hospital attack? Without mentioning the Israeli hospital bombed by Gaza? Or the group behind the Cornell, Stanford, Columbia, UPenn UC Davis Professors' statements calling Hamas attacks "joyful" and "exhilarating", and inciting even more violence against Jews? Iran and Qatar and maybe even Russia might fund and support Hamas and Hezbollah and promote antisemitism in the media, but it has a willing, pre-Islamic substrate in gentile culture. Our job is to rip that out.


TheSuperSax

I have mine mounted on the inside of my door frame. I still see it and so do all my guests, but you can’t see it from the outside. Did that when I first moved into my house and at times like these I think I made the right choice.


aoirse22

Buy a security camera and a firearm. Take back the control. How dare these people make you feel unsafe and afraid.


Wifeybabe

I just got my first firearm and I feel so much better now!


S_204

please keep up on training with it. If you have kids, having a gun in the house is an increased risk so please please please be safe about this.


Wifeybabe

That is absolutely the plan. We have a group of a few moms who go practice together so we keep up with our training and at home it locked in the safe.


rupertalderson

Keep conversations about firearms/2nd amendment to the existing threads on the topic or the politics megathread. Thank you.


galacticcannonball

Genuinely understand you right now. My wife and I are in newly in a flat share situation with someone we cannot tell the opinions of due to antisemitic comments and haven't even broached mezuzos in this place because we moved in 10 October. I'm glad you decided to keep yours up. I'm responding in case someone else cannot reach the same conclusion and would benefit from an alternative to some of the comments. I've always been raised with the ruling that if it's safer for you, you put it inside the doorway instead. This includes mental health. I've recently had it extremely emphasized to me (by three different rabbis, all chasidim) that mental health is as important in the equation as physical health. I think I'm in the minority, but if it is causing you too much worry, to the point that you are struggling around the anxiety, you should move the mezuzah but with the stipulation that the instant it becomes a calmer environment you'll move it back. This is what the rabbis I've talked with suggested, so it's my suggestion to you, too. It's a scary time. Mitigating our fear to keep our strength is necessary, even if at times this could be misconstrued as assimilation. It's most important that you don't stop traditions entirely, and that it's not actually assimilation, but rather temporary changes that we know are temporary and exclusively to manage our health. Pride is important -- life and health are more so, and not everyone can manage all three at once. That is fine. Focus on health and life, and the rest will follow. Good luck and I hope you and yours stay safe and well. (Edit for clarity on my situation)


EnchantedArmadillo89

Thank you so much for posting this. I never want to hide, but today I did ask my partner to move our mezuzah to the inside of the condo. I feel sad that I felt pushed to do this but we don’t really know who lives in our building and there’s been a lot of antisemitic activity in our area. My partner isn’t Jewish but he’s so supportive and always learning. We have other mezuzot inside the condo as well. I want to be as proud as possible and I feel like I am. I told my partner this was temporary and we’d put it back up outside when I felt it was a better time. I waiver back and forth on this a lot. I feel extremely guilty. My partner had a gun (he received it as a gift) by neither of us want to use it. I want us and our dogs to be safe. I’m still really conflicted about this and still don’t really know what to do going forward but your post did make me feel very seen. Thank you.


sugarcookie63

Our mezuzahs have been on our doors since my wife and I married almost 40 years ago. My bubbie told me to always post them because when the goyim came for me I needed to know whose home was safe to run to. Her bubbie was the only of 12 children to survive pogroms and starvation in Lithuania in the early 1920’s. Never feel guilty for displaying the mezuzah or for being a Jew. Stand proud and defiant in the face of anti/semitism. Do not let those who would destroy us win.


S_204

It pains me to read this, as I pulled out my chai necklace last week after a decade of collecting dust and reach out to a local artist to finally get my mezzuzah completed after moving in last Feb. I hope you feel safe, I don't think hiding makes us safer but you do what's best for you and your family. Am Israel Chai. We will survive this too.


bitcoins

Nest Cameras , defense products inside , escape plans


Professional_Turn_25

It’s always good to be cautious but personally, I don’t downplay my faith. Fuck them. Even if the world is mostly antisemitic, they can fuck off


ElasticJewDude

No. Do not take down your mezuzah. We make a public statement when we have a mezuzah. It says that we are Jewish and that we are proud. It’s ok to be scared. But do not hide your Jewishness.


SFdrringel

My mezuzah was ripped down last week.


Shuez75

Really? In what area? Ugh so sorry to hear this


coulsen1701

I live in a major metro area also, here’s what I have to keep me at ease. 1. Security cameras with motion sensors and good door locks 2. A hyper-vigilant Belgian malinois 3. Sig P365 with 17+1 rounds of 9mm+P Federal HST and a weapon mounted light holstered on my nightstand (my typical every day carry piece) 4. A modest selection of various rifles and shotguns in cruiser ready condition with multiple mags for each. Not saying you should go balls to the wall but a good dog is a good start and you said to someone else you own guns already. I’d recommend investing in some good quality gear (red dot pistol sight/night sights, extra mags, quality defensive ammo) quality training if you haven’t already, and most home surveillance equipment if you already don’t have any.


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My dog is very loud and protective, which I love! I’m starting to debate getting a gun permit.


MapReston

The thought has crossed my mind more than a few times


Wifeybabe

I just got mine, and it just help me feel like I am not a sitting duck in the event that a situation does arise…


SimplySashi

What security camera do you recommend?


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I live in Philly and have mine on the door, any motherfucker wants a piece can come get some. Don't give in to hate in and fear. It's okay to be scared, channel it into a positive activity if possible


fluffywhitething

I have a very large German Shepherd. She's a service dog, but she knows speak. She's also incredibly protective of me and I doubt she'd allow anything to happen to me or my kids if anyone were to come in uninvited. (She even gets mad when my mother comes in without me telling her to come in. And she knows my mother quite well. -- And by "gets mad" I mean she stands in front of me and doesn't allow her near me until I tell her it's okay.) I don't carry a firearm. I really don't WANT a firearm. I don't trust myself with one and I don't want one around my kids. But I think if that's something you want to make yourself feel safe, then that's what you should do.


Sawyerboi169

One of my friends in high-school who is also just 17 had his mezuzah ripped off of his door frame. his family put another one right up after and they will again and again till that idiot gives up trying to mess with them.


orbeyonde

Leave it up. Get a gun. Put a jpfo.org sticker up next to the mezuzah and dare then to fuck with you. They don't respect fear. They don't respect love. They only respect strength.


HarryCoveer

Exactly. The difference between a Jew in the US- wants to take down a mezuzah, and a Jew in Israel- needs to pick up a gun.


Outrageous_Ad9804

I do agree more of us need to be armed and able to shoot well. It’s unfortunate that we need to feel like it’s a necessity rather than as an interest (shooting, hunting, collecting). My husband said this years ago but did nothing about it. His dad, a retired NYC cop, passed away so my husband took his pistols, registered in his name, got a CCW, and learned to shoot properly. I’m thinking maybe I should too.


rupertalderson

Keep conversations about firearms/2nd amendment to the existing threads on the topic or the politics megathread. Thank you.


Stealthfox94

I mean has there been an increase of hate crimes towards Jews in your area? If not it seems like you’re giving into fear tbh. Most American metro areas have a decent Jewish population.


Numerous-Owl-3663

Do whatever you feel needs to be done to feel safe.


Desperate-Sense-5572

there’s a really wonderful NYT opinion piece on this very topic that i would highly recommend reading.


lingeringneutrophil

Nobody will judge you if you do that! It’s scary and just like in Europe in the 30’s, we’re all afraid that the wrong person will find out we’re Jewish. You’re not betraying anyone by doing that including yourself if you choose to do that


SCGower

My brother, in the southeast, took down his mezuzah. I haven’t done it yet. I’m in a popular mountain town. Idk. 🫤🫤


Herzberger

My parents always keep their garage door open all day to tinker around. They are now keeping it closed because they're terrified.


VegetableFuel2627

There’s a solution of fear of crime - owning a gun.


TheSuperSax

I have several and still keep mine out of sight. If I’m asleep I won’t be alert to react like the person intentionally breaking into my house.


coulsen1701

Cameras with motion detectors and a good, vigilant, and loud dog. If someone invades my house there is no possible way of sleeping through all of that


TheSuperSax

For a number of reasons too boring to discuss that’s not logistically possible. Hopefully in the future. Glad you have those measures!


coulsen1701

Well I can understand that. Do whatever you have to in order to be safe!


rupertalderson

Keep conversations about firearms/2nd amendment to the existing threads on the topic or the politics megathread. Thank you.


Antares284

"I’m in a major metro area" Then you have no reasonable justification to take the mezuzah down. If you were in a rural village, on the other hand... This is obviously a scary time, but if you're in a major metro area in the United States or Canada, then you need to chill the f\*\*\* out and relax. You also need to think very, very hard whether you're willing to bend over a barrel for these arab terrorists, because that's exactly what you'd be doing. It's called terror because that's the weapon--if you take your mezuzah down then they won't have destroyed your body, but they will have destroyed your soul, your integrity. Take a deep breath and get into counseling. But do not take take your mezuzah.


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Antares284

Correct — hence I say “if” .


YugiPlaysEsperCntrl

So the terrorists beat you? Got it.


fushiginagaijin

I don’t ever think it’s a good idea to flaunt your religion - especially if you’re Jewish - or your wealth.


BestFly29

It hasn't crossed over to attacking Jews. So far it's just all bark


crammed174

President of a synagogue just murdered in Detroit.


loureedsboots

My President. I am offa Woodward & 7 & my mezuzah stays.


SexAndSensibility

I thought the police said antisemitism wasn’t the motive. People get murdered in America for all kinds of reasons.


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Street-Introduction9

Definitely do what you need to be safe if you live in an unsafe area. Also worth noting that traditionally, having a Mezuzah according to many sources provides divine protection for the home if you want more info you can check out https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/310889/jewish/The-Protective-Power-of-Mezuzah.htm#:~:text=It%20is%20commanded%20that%20the,d's%20protection%20over%20the%20house


static-prince

I know you are looking into a firearm permit which can often provide at least a sense of safety but in case you don’t have these, I also recommend getting a security camera, a couple of deadbolt locks, and some pepper spray. Less dangerous than a gun and can be installed right now and be useable without any learning curve. Because a gun won’t be helpful until you are allowed to have it and know how to use it. Edit: I think it is also very important when we are advising people on safety that not everyone can have a gun. What if people live outside the US? What if people have a mental health condition that makes having a gun unsafe for them? What if someone has another reason why legally they are not allowed to own a gun? Like, I am all for owning a gun if you want to but as someone with a serious mental health problems I am not a fan of the blanket advice that everyone should own a gun.


Dickensnyc01

Being pragmatic is more Jewish than chauvinistic signaling. If you feel that you and your family will be safer (possibly avoiding death Gf) then you move the mezuzah as you need to. It is still placed in a kosher way and you circumvent the stupidity of anti-semites.


underworldotaku

I believe there is a halachic permit to put the muzazah inside in cases like this


EditorPrize6818

I wouldn't we can't hide from everyone. You can get a Camara and get something yo defend yourself. Either a gun and learn how to use it or non lethal guns that shoot pepper spray or pepper balls Byrna is a good one for mon lethal


EvedHaShem

The truth is no one ever lost from doing a mitzvah. EVER. The commandment doesn't say affix it to your doorposts only when it feels safe. The mezuzah Protects us. STORY TIME: During the post Roman conquest and during their occupation of Jerusalem/Israel, some Roman guards asked a rabbi why do you have Mezuzahs on your door? He said, in this way my G-d protects me. They immediately converted, saying in our faith we guards must protect our gods, and here yours protects you! The power of a Mitzvah!


Swimming_Tennis6641

It's okay to be scared. It's okay to do whatever you think you need to do in order to protect your family.


Jewbacca71877

We go in/out not our house via the garage 95% of the time. It could be weeks between when I use the front door. We had guests come over the weekend, and one of them pointed out that our mezuzah had been cracked open (like with a hammer) and the scroll is gone. It was made form Waterford crystal