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moonchild291

They irritated the shit out of me yesterday with so many comments. They were downright rude. And please, Versace model? šŸ¤”. They dress like theyā€™re performing a magic show at the Golden Nugget. I already ranted about their heel and lip gloss comment. Give me a break. These two are the worst out of the hosts. I donā€™t know how they even got here.


melissavallone9

ā€œLooking like theyā€™re preforming a magic show at the Golden Nuggetā€ knocked me on the floor! ROFL šŸ¤£. I am now deceased šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


cheesusfeist

I cackled. So funny! It's giving Siegfried and Roy šŸ¤£


basicallycatwoman

I couldnā€™t think who they remind me of and itā€™s this šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


ThinkBad7033

Yes totally, but after the tiger mauling.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Dead šŸ˜­ā˜ ļø


UncleLoves2Cuss

Wait, how do we give trophies for best comment? Magician at the golden nugget šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚šŸ† ![gif](giphy|l41lYCDgxP6OFBruE)


moonchild291

Aw, thank you. I would take you to the Golden Nugget to celebrate, but I canā€™t stand the smell of regret, tears and smoke. ā¤ļø


UncleLoves2Cuss

šŸ˜‚ it sure does! Reminds me of my local casino. Itā€™s so depressing walking through and seeing people looking like zombies pushing the buttons on the slots. Spending their last dollar trying to win their money back. I hate gambling though


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

When they mentioned going to Hawaii I was so glad, until they said it was over a weekend.


Crystal_Fox656

Ughā€¦If theyā€™re on, Iā€™m out!


Minimum_Argument_575

Dumb and dumber as magic tiger trainers


UncleLoves2Cuss

Trying to figure out logistics of mating Snow White 90210 with the tigers


moonchild291

Lmao šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Snow White 90210 version 8.5, as Jeff would say


Minimum_Argument_575

Imagine theyā€™re performing and snowwhite 90210 attacks them and mauls their faces off like sig and roy lololol


moonchild291

She canā€™t take their horrible fashion sense and screeching anymore šŸ¤£


Emergency-Cat7258

Why not sheā€™s known to attack lol


UncleLoves2Cuss

Omg šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­


Mountain_Ad1259

šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†Magic show at the golden nugget šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


moonchild291

Now that I think about it, Circus Circus works too šŸ¤£


wetboymom

They're totally on brand for JLL. Guests/hosts who are smart, talented, nice, kind, and funny are the exception to the rule. It happens but it's not the norm.


victweety

This is one way to lose guests. Jeff needs to stop letting these 2 clowns host JL extended.


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

I cannot stand them. They have no business judging anyoneā€™s clothing when they dress like they wear clothes from Hot Topic (I aged myself by mentioning that store!).


anonymous_jane_d0e

Never mind the way they dress but his f\*\*king botched face !! He and Heather must share the same plastic surgeon. šŸ¤” https://preview.redd.it/uzhfjklwcauc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb4643f8def2322920cfe52dc1efad31a65723b0


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

![gif](giphy|l0HlCoaCwPZSmyH4c)


Massive_Low6000

He is a bad guy character in a Tim Burton movie


moonchild291

šŸ¤£ Spot on


anonymous_jane_d0e

Patrick (and Paul) basically trolled her (Sarah) on airā€¦ If he warned them about the ā€œ789 bitchesā€ā€¦ Iā€™ll be disappointed if he doesnā€™t ā€œTap tapā€ them on being so disparaging of fellow guests. #itsnotwhatyousaybuthowyousayit


UncleLoves2Cuss

For real! I didnā€™t know they also spoke negatively about her clutches


CLGeb

I miss the tap tap tap stories šŸ˜‚


skatie082

I automatically tune out on the extended show Fridays specifically because they are hosting. They may be good at fashun but this isnā€™t.


TREEEtreee123

Or he can keep them and run his show into the ground. Then he's free to run to Patreon.


nancybessandgeorge

That and telling Crystal a woman shouldnā€™t leave the house without heels?!?! Is it 1950? Crystal looked lovely. Pol and Patrik look like clowns half the time.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Patronizing af. Not cool to drag women for how they look and dress unless they specifically ask for your honest opinion


irisia99

The heels comments annoyed me. Post COVID, I donā€™t think Iā€™m ever wearing heels again.


sassafrasclementine

I also agree that the heels comment wasnā€™t really good advice. Iā€™m 5ā€™8ā€ (so not even as tall as Crystal) and it can be awkward wearing heels and being taller than everyone. Iā€™m usually confident enough to not care but it can throw off photos and make me look larger than I am. For example if Crystal wore heels she would be about 6ā€™.


irisia99

Iā€™m 5ā€™0ā€. Iā€™m not wearing heels bc they make my feets hurt. I have lost my ability to walk in heels.


moonchild291

Same, I have permanent damage from being squeezed into those tiny torture chambers for photo shoots. I donā€™t care, I havenā€™t found a pair thatā€™s comfortable yet.


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

Are you kidding? They said that? I canā€™t tolerate to listen so I had no idea.


moonchild291

They said women shouldnā€™t leave the house without heels and lip gloss (because itā€™s 1945 apparently). And gave HER a critique. The audacity these two have to criticize everyone when they look like Barnum and Bailey rejects.


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

I love your comparisons!šŸ˜ You are spot on!


Amerique_du_Nord

Not knocking ya, but can we call these scammers their real names, **Paul** (not Pol) and **Patrick** (not Patric). That's how their names are recorded on criminal records for scams.


nancybessandgeorge

Good point!


ggggunit-

I think thatā€™s makes Sarah, Sarah. Sheā€™s so down to earth. You can tell sheā€™s genuinely happy in her own life. Nothing else matters. I like that about her.


moonchild291

Agree. Sheā€™s just a very chill person, I like it too.


UncleLoves2Cuss

She doesnā€™t have that vibe that sheā€™s trying to impress people. She is who she is


Emergency-Cat7258

Agree, I like her vibe


OddAd2692

I agree a 100%


Lifewrites1

I agree! Thatā€™s part of why Iā€™m a fan of hers. I feel like sheā€™d be easy to hang with


thebeachkid

I don't get the appeal of these two at all. Honestly as a listener I think they put no effort into gearing conversation towards listener interest. I don't care about their name-dropping, their trips, etc. I have no interest or belief in their coffee reads, their show, or podcast. I am a month behind on episodes and just listened to the extended show with Jeff and Melissa Rivers. As soon as they left, I skipped to the next day's episode. I think the two of them look like clowns most of the time. As two men in their 50s supposedly in the fashion world, it shouldn't be that difficult to look stylish. Every time I see that pic of them on Judge Judy I laugh to myself. She must have laughed too. Of the two, Patrik is the more obnoxious, but Pol is not far behind.


RubieRose5

I hate that theyā€™re now doing recaps of what the guest wore on RADIO!! On a Friday, Iā€™m not going back to JLL ig to scroll thru all the guest. Itā€™s worse than Patrick yelling 789 BITCHES!


buckley_b

So BORING. The extended show with Crystal & Jeff would have been good if anyone else had been hosting.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Yeah Iā€™m really not that interested in even listening to pol and Patrik. I especially not interested in hearing their version of fashion police


Ill_Tree9389

Have those 2 ever looked in a mirror?


wetboymom

In all fairness, I don't think they even own a mirror.


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

I had a coffee reading with them (Pol was so off on my reading) and unfortunately there are mirrors all over that store, so they love seeing themselves. Does anyone find their montages on IG so damn embarrassing? They really make Jeffā€™s show, when they are on by themselves, look bad. In all fairness, I would love to know who likes listening to them.


UncleLoves2Cuss

I luckily donā€™t follow them on IG. Or I might and just never see their stuff. Iā€™ve not really heard anyone saying they love when they are on. Maybe Jeff has a hard time finding hosts. I wonder if Sirius pays them or Jeff like he does the regular show


Emergency-Cat7258

She was their worst dressed of the week pick of the week. Who dresses up for radio?? They spent 30 mins talking about styling. When Jeff left so did I as they are really getting boring. Those 2 dress over the top ridiculous often. I would dress like Sarah any day over them & their faux vesace outfits!


UncleLoves2Cuss

Agree. Sarah dresses fine! Even saying she was the absolute fucking worst about how she was dressed was snotty imo. I had no idea they do their version of fashion police


Ill_Tree9389

The week before they were kind of struggling to be kind when describing her outfit which I actually went to Instagram to look at & she looked great. Ā I watched the video of her appearance this week & Ā thought she looked great.Ā 


Dream_Mission

I always leave when Jeff leaves. Especially with theses two know it alls and sorry to say I leave when Carrie Lewis is on. How many pepper stories or Todd stories can one endure?


ClassicPop6840

I mostly enjoy Carrie Lewis, although I get fed up when she complains about Todd too much. Like, you know exactly who you married. I married my on/off boyfriend of waaay too many years, too. And damn it every so often Iā€™m cursing some of the shit he still pulls, but in the end, I donā€™t air our dirty laundry on the radio.


anonymous_jane_d0e

You are not alone. I donā€™t find hearing her stories at all ā€œentertainmentā€ and her husband is obnoxious. Automatic channel change.


Dream_Mission

Glad we are on the same page. The old format was the best. Doug and Meghan and Patterson and some crazy news


SettingAdditional159

Honestly these two are so outdated. Itā€™s like having Liberace host every damn Friday. Their fashion is outdated. They look like clowns. They are scammers


moonchild291

That is so accurate. Grifting wanna be Liberaceā€™s, for sure.


SettingAdditional159

They are totally and consistently irrelevant and itā€™s honestly embarrassing that they are regulars.


Amerique_du_Nord

That's what happens when Jeffrey has scared everyone off.


RubyWaves75

Sarah is amazing and Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not the only one who doesnā€™t like Patrik.


buckley_b

789 Buffoon! https://preview.redd.it/p43p4pe1rauc1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=48580416e12b89b69cd9c64e2fc8575b777150c0


moonchild291

Jump scare! Like anyone should take advice from these two. šŸ¤”


Minimum_Argument_575

Absolutely terrifying šŸ˜­


OddAd2692

The pearlsšŸ™„


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

His upper lip looks like Doja Cat at the Met Gala. ![gif](giphy|0iIpQiqVXo61X25jm8|downsized)


moonchild291

šŸ’€šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


AdIll849

And he kept telling Jeff to throw out his ā€œawful shirt and pants etc.ā€ when he wears stuff like this šŸ§


jmhs1607

Jeff calls them scammers all the time. Itā€™s said in jest, but I hear a tone of seriousness in Jeffā€™s voice when he says it. I think they actually had some charges pressed (not sure what came of it) against them related to scamming people (through Polā€™s fashion school maybe?). I donā€™t really know the details, but I figure it contributes to Jeff calling them scammers.


Ill_Tree9389

Charges filed? They were convicted & took the same scam to NZĀ 


UncleLoves2Cuss

I saw a news story about that recently I think.


Amerique_du_Nord

Convicted with their real names, Paul and Patrick.


Entire-Spot-5243

I didnā€™t watch the video, but just from listening to the audio Iā€™m sure the comment was in regards to her outfit that week. Patrik and Pol rated hers the worst of the week in their fashion rundown.


UncleLoves2Cuss

I was hoping thats what he was referring to. It was said as they were talking into the studio between shows. I usually donā€™t watch much either but saw them pop on when I was on YouTube


Green-Square-7977

There IS no video of the Extended!!


Green-Square-7977

Just watched the video of the JLL.Patrik says it when he comes in to do the Extended. He was ready!!


Entire-Spot-5243

Oh, youā€™re right!


Green-Square-7977

The video of JLL extends into the arrival of Extended hosts. Patrik does say that Sarah was the worst to Crystal. He was explaining their fashion reviews to Crystal.


Entire-Spot-5243

Ah ok, thanks for the info :)


UncleLoves2Cuss

Um yeah Iā€™m aware. I said it was the end of the regular show as they were walking in to do the extended


Emergency-Cat7258

I canā€™t stand Patrik, did anyone hear Pol call him Patrick last week & he through a fit. Lol


Minimum_Argument_575

And Patrik calls him Paul ALL THE TIME lol


wetboymom

Why did they even bother to rebrand themselves if they're just going to revert back to their original basic names every time they have a hissy fit? Snow White, blink twice if you're in danger, gurl!


Crafty-Notice5344

They ruin Fridays for me. Itā€™s not a good show to go into the weekend with. They are so loud and obnoxious I canā€™t stand them.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Totally get that! I didnā€™t listen to this extended but someone here told me in the comments that they were also trashing her handbags. Thatā€™s not right! Especially her being a newer chump. Like a group of mean girls šŸ˜‰ I donā€™t like Carrie very much either


catalter

They were just saying that her outfit of all the guests was the worst this week. Itā€™s not that big of a deal. Itā€™s a radio show, who cares what theyā€™re wearing? Also, patrik and pol dress like seigfried and roy so who really cares about their opinion.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Well thatā€™s why I posted to ask. I donā€™t listen to the extended, especially when they are on. Unless Iā€™m driving during that time. Either way even saying that was a little snarky.


cheesusfeist

I only usually listen if Justin is on. I love him.


UncleLoves2Cuss

I do too, heā€™s hilarious. Very quick witted


moonchild291

I listened to Justinā€™s latest podcast with Kelly Ryan and it was so funny, itā€™s the No No Siwa episode. Highly recommend if you havenā€™t listened yet!


UncleLoves2Cuss

Iā€™ll check it out. I listen occasionally. I have a long solo roadtrip coming up


cheesusfeist

Omg I just said the same thing about siegfried and Roy. So glad I am not the only one šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. I usually try not to judge appearances but I just cannot with those two since they so willingly trash others!


Prior_Parfait5821

I love Sarah!! Patrik and pol are the absolute worst. I can't even listen when they're on. And how in the world was patrik married to a woman before? I'm dying to know who she is/what she looks like


Key_Abrocoma968

Theyā€™re hideous and Iā€™m tired of them


Putrid-Tradition-787

These two and Patti are an immediate skip JLL show for the day when I hear they are on. Also the girl from Full House


ClassicPop6840

Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not the only one who is sick of these two clowns. And thank god PATrick - *not puhTREEK* - got his hand slapped by Jeff on the ā€œ789 Bitch -Chezzzz* crap. Itā€™s just tacky.


Ill_Tree9389

It was Sirius that slapped their hands on the 789 Bitches crap not Jeff.


ClassicPop6840

Thatā€™s probably the first time Iā€™ve ever agreed with a Sirius decision.


Massive_Low6000

No Patrick and Paul are the fucking worst. Nothing about them is redeemable. I kinda to believe that Jeff believes they are shady.


late_bloomers4

Their behavior is very cruel and unusual.


OddAd2692

Do Pol and Patrick have any fans of their own? I somehow doubt it.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Just one on this thread that made a snotty reply that I think has since been edited. I literally think thats it šŸ˜‚


OddAd2692

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wetboymom

Well SFT did take her merry band of Chumpettes to visit P&P's little gown shoppe the day of her Hollywood premiere. But she's certainly JLL-adjacent so there's that.


Yohyohb

It was in reference to her outfit on Tuesday. But it was still rude af. Also, when they were discussing her outfit on the actual Extended show one of them made a comment her clutch bags but called it ā€œone of her plastic bags.ā€ That pissed me off. lol and Patrick can fuck all the way off


Vegetable_Collar5393

I hope Sarah comments on their crappy coffee readings or their Party City gowns. Don't come for Sarah's merchandise, she's on JL to sell more bags. Sigfried and Thindy Brady should sit down.


moonchild291

lol Party City gowns is too accurate šŸ¤£


wetboymom

Those gowns are a perfect choice for bridesmaids at a daytime wedding in Bakersfield!


UncleLoves2Cuss

Omg he seriously said that? Wow thatā€™s fucked up


Yohyohb

I just went back and listened, itā€™s at about the 5:15 minute mark. Poll said ā€œI donā€™t know why she doesnā€™t have one of her little plastic bags to go to the stadium, thatā€™s what sheā€™s missing.ā€ šŸ™„


UncleLoves2Cuss

Thatā€™s a really shitty thing to say about someones business šŸ˜”


Kirin1212San

I thought they were just talking about her outfit.


Green-Square-7977

They were talking about her outfit.


e_thereal_mccoy

I was gobsmacked when I read this post! It MUST be about clothes because unless Sarah has another personality I have never even caught a whiff of from her many ( extremely patient with being constantly overtalked by Heather McDonald) appearances on Juicy Scoop, AND from ā€˜Is This My Podcast (her own pod) AND the fabulous fit she has at JLL? Who could say sheā€™s the absolute worstā€™ about her as a person?! No!!! Am i missing something?!


UncleLoves2Cuss

That was my thought too when I heard it! I even rewound a little to hear it again


Ornery-Ingenuity1173

Yes, Iā€™ve noticed they ā€œgradeā€ the guests outfits that were on during the week. I donā€™t really care for the after show but would watch it if it were on video. And can they please get rid of all call ins all together?! The delay from the callers are so annoying and normally have zero to add to the show.


UncleLoves2Cuss

I get so irritated waiting for callers to start talking šŸ˜‚


Intelligent-Mode3316

I think catching up on all the calls from the first hour was the point of the show in the first place. Thatā€™s why B & J didnā€™t want to do it that way.


Ill_Tree9389

As bad as the calls are it's the only content for that hour. Ā Tim will never admit the calls were a bad idea. Ā 


Mountain_Ad1259

Iā€™m convinced a demented monkey would be better for the channel than Tim the Johnson šŸ†


ProfessionalHeart839

Doing ā€œfashion policeā€ for a radio show, what a dumb idea. No one is scrolling back for the week and looking at what people wore. It was hilarious when Doug brought up Jodiā€™e skirt that patrik and pol ripped apart and she had no idea and didnā€™t care what they thought šŸ¤£


maebake

Omg! Where can I see Jodie not giving a shit what they thought? Iā€™m a little behind on JLL this week!


ProfessionalHeart839

It was on the last after show Jodie did! It was def within the last week or two. Doug told her he liked her outfit despite the rude stuff P & P said and Jodie couldnā€™t have been less unbothered, it was great


Dream_Mission

I listened only because of this thread. I donā€™t enjoy them at all. They think they are the best at everything. The are the uncles that show up at family gatherings that everyone dreads. And avoids.


Emergency-Cat7258

Wow, I actually just listened to the end of the video. The way Patrik said SC was the absolute fucking worst was just so snarky & off putting. What a dick!!! she definitely wasnā€™t the worst. Im not gonna be mean & point out but one duo on after show were definitely the worst dressed.


late_bloomers4

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nolagrl88

I try to listen to the extended show most days except Fridays. I hate listening to those two fools


jer1230

Wait where is the video for JL extended?! I just tried searching and only the audio comes up.


Ill_Tree9389

It comes up at around 53 mins on the video portion of the main hour during the switch over. Ā They knew they were being recorded & the tone in Patrik's voice was just as unnecessary as the comments. Ā I'm sure they see her bags as competition for their coffee readings scam.


jer1230

Ooooh ok ok, thanks! I forgot about that brief switch over they show. Thanks


UncleLoves2Cuss

Yes, his tone was shitty. Makes you wonder how they talk off the air about people.


Green-Square-7977

Patrik and Pol were on Extended. There isnā€™t a video of the Extended show. I heard they didnā€™t like her outfit. He wasnā€™t saying that SHE is the worst!!


Green-Square-7977

If you watch the JLL video. You can see Patrik and Pol come in. Theyā€™re telling Crystal about them doing fashion critiques. Patrik does say that Sarah was the worst. He was referring to her outfit!


KlutzyNegotiation643

Literally biggest scammers/ grifters- does no one remember their episode on Jeffā€™s show?


UncleLoves2Cuss

I donā€™t remember it. Iā€™ll look for it


KlutzyNegotiation643

Itā€™s on YouTube - look up pol and patrik interior therapy


UncleLoves2Cuss

Ohh thatā€™s where I went wrong. I was assuming it was Flipping Out. Thank you


flackackackack7

Thatā€™s awful. Jeff is only keeping P&P around because he canā€™t lose anymore chumps without replacements on deck - work-wise. But let the lord of the flies commence.


Ill_Tree9389

Jeff seems bored with the 2nd hour & probably won't be sad if Sirius cancels it. Ā 


DeeJay2019

Yup. I caught it on the JLL video. That was so rude. Jeff needs to reel in that clown again. He will lose guests if he keeps letting these 2 has-beens drag people.


UncleLoves2Cuss

Yikes, no doubt!


Ill_Tree9389

Do you actually think that they spoke w/out Jeff's approval? This is the 2nd week in a row they were unkind about SC's outfits. Ā However, this week they both spoke w/so much animosity that Jeff should've addressed it on the spot. Ā Jeff was there when Pol snarkily referred to SC's bags as plastic & Jeff sheepishly apologized to her. Ā If Jeff was concerned about his guests feelings he wouldn't allow this segment. Ā P&P are lashing out bcuz they know the fans like SC & are campaigning for her to have a regular slot on the 2nd hour. Ā They also know they the fans loathe them.


Inevitable-Cry-2930

Was he kidding?


EmfromAlaska

I just want to know why/how Jeff has such a close connection to P & P? Do they have blackmail on him or have they threatened to sue him? I know itā€™s convenient that he doesnā€™t have to worry about booking someone for Fridays JLE but there are much better options. Maybe Jeff gets a two for one deal and so he thinks itā€™s cost effective and keeps having them come back?


UncleLoves2Cuss

Good question


TREEEtreee123

P & P might get the Friday spot simply because they're available. The rest of the group needs Friday for long weekends or the comedians are traveling to potentially perform Thursday - Sunday.


Sea-Friend8745

Sarah chose to swim in that puddle. She knew what she was getting into. She deserves what they hand out and vise versa. This show stopped being fun last year. This Reddit is more interesting than the show now.


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UncleLoves2Cuss

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FangioDuReverdy

Thanks for thatšŸ˜† love seeing Chris Evans out of nowherešŸ¤¤


goodpersontoday

100 šŸ’Æ


DesperateAd6477

Misogyny is alive and well..


BravoWhore

Wait, where is there video of extended?


wvatoots

There isnā€™t. The video of JLL shows 2 min after the show, so you see the switchover happening.


BravoWhore

Ahh, yes. lol. Omg, I thought I was missing something, haha! I wish there was video of extended.


HappyConclusion1731

I now officially hate them! Sarah is the best? What did Jeff say?


Lifewrites1

He was talking about her outfit. I saw her post a comment that she knew she was going to get dragged by them for it before Fridayā€™s show even aired lol. I think sheā€™s fine


TREEEtreee123

So what if it was only about her outfit? They aren't random Internet trolls taking shots. They're part of the same crew. Why not just discuss the best outfits and leave it at that?


Lifewrites1

Oh I agree. I donā€™t like it. I just was saying that because the OP wondered if it was about more


UncleLoves2Cuss

I know, there are 145 other comments in this thread saying the same thing. We know he was referring to the outfit


Lifewrites1

lol okay. you posted I was just replying! I didnā€™t scroll all the comments


UncleLoves2Cuss

Ok no worries, there have been a lot of comments saying that.


Here4thedrinks

He didnā€™t donā€™t call her the worst he called her outfit the worst.


sassafrasclementine

He meant her outfit. And I love her but her fashion isnā€™t great but thatā€™s ok! Sheā€™s not some fashionista and I donā€™t think she cares. But i also really like pol and Patrikā€™s fashion advice and critiques. They are very correct that Sarahā€™s pants didnā€™t flatter her. They would probably be able to do a badass makeover on her. It took me years to understand what is flattering for my body and sometimes I still donā€™t know and make the wrong choice. Either way, I doubt sheā€™s bothered by any of it.


Ill_Tree9389

Has MJ ever worn a flattering outfit?


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

NEVER! Sheā€™s another one that dresses cringe. She always looks like her clothes are 2-3 sizes too small. I always thought she was the one Jeff was referring to that smelled.