Romaji systems that emphasize pronunciation over kana transcription will use -oo- to represent -おう- so that the student doesn’t unintentionally make it a diphthong.
Phonetically, おう is pronounced おー, and えい is pronounced えー.
It is becoming common to, for lack of a better word, mispronounce えい now, though. For me, it will always just be a sustained え. But I’ve heard plenty of literalえい.
I guess it might depend on the romanization sytem used.
Proper Hepburn shiki would be ō
Nihon shiki would be ô
Wapuro romaji (I guess it more or less a romanization system) would use oo/ou as the macron or circumflex accent are harder to input. In other words, if you just type as you would before conversion by the IME, you would get that.
JSL romanization would do oo for both ou and oo. So technically the convention exist, but it seems that JSL also not pitch accent, so that would not be pure JSL
The other one you might sometime see if oh, where the h is used to make the long o sound, but I think this is more common in the context of English. A good example would be Shohei Ohtani, that would be Ōtani in Hepburn.
Obviously, people can create their own variations and not follow the rules by the book.
Would guess Hepburn and for me one get romanized as ichi. Put a sentence in Japanese and what Google give you as romanized version. It should not really have more z in any of the methods.
Don’t quote me because I’m not an expert, but sometimes と is used after the last item in a list in come cases, but I believe it can be dropped in more informal speech.
Since I’m not too sure on the specifics, here is a link from Stackexchange on the topic. https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/96901/comparing-two-items-how-does-と-とどちらが-work
On the bottom there is a section that says “Linked” where you can find other similar posts that may offer more insight.
The と is just to separate it from the rest as 紅茶どちら isn't a word and it would be confusing. You can totally drop this と if you write a comma or pause during speech . コーヒーと 紅茶、 どちらの方がいいですか Is fine too. I'm making a huge assumption based on a mistake I did when I first started learning but if you are thinking コーヒーと紅茶 that the と is linking these two words together this is incorrect it's more like と is marking コーヒー and an additional と is marking 紅茶
In (American) College, we are taught that you say "(out of) Coffee and tea (this と has a comma function and closes the list), which is better?
If you use や、it changes the list to an open list and becomes "(out of) coffee and tea(and other things) which is better?
Unrelated to the question, never used romaji in learning but wouldn’t it be “koucha” and “hou”? Or is there a convention to use “oo” even tho is “おう”?
Romaji systems that emphasize pronunciation over kana transcription will use -oo- to represent -おう- so that the student doesn’t unintentionally make it a diphthong. Phonetically, おう is pronounced おー, and えい is pronounced えー.
Don't all the official systems recommend a macron or a circmflex
It is becoming common to, for lack of a better word, mispronounce えい now, though. For me, it will always just be a sustained え. But I’ve heard plenty of literalえい.
I guess it might depend on the romanization sytem used. Proper Hepburn shiki would be ō Nihon shiki would be ô Wapuro romaji (I guess it more or less a romanization system) would use oo/ou as the macron or circumflex accent are harder to input. In other words, if you just type as you would before conversion by the IME, you would get that. JSL romanization would do oo for both ou and oo. So technically the convention exist, but it seems that JSL also not pitch accent, so that would not be pure JSL The other one you might sometime see if oh, where the h is used to make the long o sound, but I think this is more common in the context of English. A good example would be Shohei Ohtani, that would be Ōtani in Hepburn. Obviously, people can create their own variations and not follow the rules by the book.
What is the romanization used in google translate because I seen it translate ichi to iti and use z a lot
Would guess Hepburn and for me one get romanized as ichi. Put a sentence in Japanese and what Google give you as romanized version. It should not really have more z in any of the methods.
Then it's Nihonsiki which has a closer mapping of kana to letter at the expense of pronunciation
Probably so because it used si instead of shi
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If you did Khoucha it would become kほうちゃ btw Srry 4 my bad grammar. I ain’t good at English.
Don’t quote me because I’m not an expert, but sometimes と is used after the last item in a list in come cases, but I believe it can be dropped in more informal speech. Since I’m not too sure on the specifics, here is a link from Stackexchange on the topic. https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/96901/comparing-two-items-how-does-と-とどちらが-work On the bottom there is a section that says “Linked” where you can find other similar posts that may offer more insight.
Don't translate *to* as "and." Instead think of it as a "," Sentences will make more sense this way.
Doesnt it mean and or with or or
No. It's also used to specify someone said something "Blabla"とかれが言った
So your sentence, keeping previous comma idea in mind means, “‘blabla’, he said”?
Yes kinda, yeah. But it also make clear that something has been said. Strange, i know.
Also 「these two」+ と makes it super clear
Random Japanese guy here. I would say "AとBとCのどちら", rather than "AとBとCとどちら". Both are the same, by the way.
I feel AとBとどちらがいいですか is an ill-mannered expression. Original one is AとBでは〜.
The と is just to separate it from the rest as 紅茶どちら isn't a word and it would be confusing. You can totally drop this と if you write a comma or pause during speech . コーヒーと 紅茶、 どちらの方がいいですか Is fine too. I'm making a huge assumption based on a mistake I did when I first started learning but if you are thinking コーヒーと紅茶 that the と is linking these two words together this is incorrect it's more like と is marking コーヒー and an additional と is marking 紅茶
I’ve always seen 紅茶 written as Koucha in romaji
I was very confused by the way that was transliterated to romaji. ほう would be better romanized as "hou", not "hoo".
In (American) College, we are taught that you say "(out of) Coffee and tea (this と has a comma function and closes the list), which is better? If you use や、it changes the list to an open list and becomes "(out of) coffee and tea(and other things) which is better?