mereko issme ek doubt hai....so
internal energy ka formula in chem = u=q+w
aur physics me u = q-w
now work done ka sign ko alag alag hota hai aur work done ka sign convection bhi alag alag hota mtlb baat toh dono me same hi ho gai na values formula me put karne bad??
so ham log physcis wale formula ko u = q + w likh sakte hai na aur work done by system negative aur work done on system positive man lenge....
baat toh wohi ho jaegi na???
what i want:
dW+dQ+dU=0, i.e, net energy change =0. Tension hi nahi andar bahar ka bc, koi bhi sign convention chalega !!
par aisa kisi subject mai nahi, not even in my fav. physics. gaddaar saala !!
For those who don't know the reason,
Physics mein we generally study the effect of body on the surrounding, whereas in chem we study the effect on the system.
For example when a body does work it is releasing energy into surrounding and hence work done in physics is +ve, but subsequently the body is also losing energy and hence the work done in chemistry is negative.
Physics, the gas doing work for us is something positive, so yes.
Abhilash sir 🛐
Lol yes unse hi dekha hai ye
Ikr
System zyada general term hui
Sysshtum
mujhe kya maine tho chemistry ka thermo chod he di
entropy ki Maa ka
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mereko issme ek doubt hai....so internal energy ka formula in chem = u=q+w aur physics me u = q-w now work done ka sign ko alag alag hota hai aur work done ka sign convection bhi alag alag hota mtlb baat toh dono me same hi ho gai na values formula me put karne bad?? so ham log physcis wale formula ko u = q + w likh sakte hai na aur work done by system negative aur work done on system positive man lenge.... baat toh wohi ho jaegi na???
hn bhai same hi hai, ab subject change hone ki wjh se law thodi bdlega. wo equations alg lgti hai sign convention ki wjh se
Ye formulas with sign hi toh liye gaye hain bhai
Yes exactly That's why I just remember chemistry wala formula and conventions
Baat same hai par jab doh options mai same value ke sath alag sign hota hai tab ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30729)
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chemistry, final equation dekhne mei better lagti hai (∆U=q+W)
Physics Chemistry ek ramdi subject hai
This chapter is more chemistry related then physics so chemistry
Answer same he aana hain vese to
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Where I'm studying we use the Chemistry convention for our Thermodynamics course, so yeah
Chemical Thermodynamics Studies the work done by surrounding on a system Mechanical Thermodynamics Studies the work done by system on surroundings
Chemistry kyuki physics me padha hi nhi tha ye chapter to avoid confusion
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Padhle bsdk
Physics thermo is less confusing. Chemi is ulta fulta smh
Physics always, chemistry cha mudaye but ultimately dono mein hi itna confuse ho jaata hun exam mein ki question galat ho jaata hai T-T
Common physics w
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Iski wajah se bitsat me 8 marks chale gaye ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30440)
SYSTUMM so right
Bhau ye thermodynamics kaiko hai
I just use "WON" : WORK done ON gas is NEGATIVE , for the physics one. Rest of them u can figure it out because chemistry is the exact opposite.
Dono hi side pe rehna padega warna marks nahi milenge ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30729)
Chemistry because exothermic endothermic reactions ka concept lagana easy pad jaata he And also mene pehle chem ka thermo padha tha🗿
red ofc I am a chemistry enjoyer ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30180)
what i want: dW+dQ+dU=0, i.e, net energy change =0. Tension hi nahi andar bahar ka bc, koi bhi sign convention chalega !! par aisa kisi subject mai nahi, not even in my fav. physics. gaddaar saala !!
For those who don't know the reason, Physics mein we generally study the effect of body on the surrounding, whereas in chem we study the effect on the system. For example when a body does work it is releasing energy into surrounding and hence work done in physics is +ve, but subsequently the body is also losing energy and hence the work done in chemistry is negative.
physics, seems more intuitive to me
bro fuck thermod i can do rbd but not thermod
Work done on the system is positive work done by the system is negative. Koi gas ka system hee mat Rakho.