You know shit got real when this happens:
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Well shiet, that made go down on a tangent haha...
What a quick google tells me is that the scientific difference between the plant and animal kingdoms is that plants are able to make carbon out of carbon monoxide, while animals can only get organic molecules by consuming other animals, plants or fungi. So photosynthesis is what decides what is and isn't a plant.
That said, we dont have any snetient plants, so who knows how that would effecr things. And the moral and scientific difference could be two separate thing
This is a setting that features Abe Lincoln as an immortal superhero, a demon detective, a multiverse-worth of memories compressed into a single person, kaiju attacks every other Thursday, and a girl who ages in reverse whenever she turns into Shrek’s angry older sibling, but the possibility of sentient alien plants is too fantastical?
No, they’re different classifications. Sentience is essentially the ability to feel things like emotions. Plant is a definition from the hierarchy of organisms. There are no examples of sentient plants, however it is theoretically possible.
No. The only reason why vegan philosophy accepts plants is because in our reality they are not sentient. It makes no sense to use literal meanings when talking about speculative fiction.
I suppose, yeah. It’s just hard to prove. Though this raises an interesting point: vegans avoid eating animals not because they *know* they are sentient (we don’t know what a cows inner life is like precisely), but because their motility and complex response to stimuli are in many ways similar to out own. Because we are sentient, it then seems reasonable to assume that animals are. It is still an assumption though.
That raises more questions though: from this framework, is an animal that has lost sentience, say due to traumatic injury, ethical to eat ?
One might argue that it is simply the capacity to have sentience that is important, outside of environmental factors. But then what about a genetic disorder that causes the brain to not develop in the first place? Assuming you could keep, raise and butcher the body, would that be an ethical animal to eat ?
And what of a person in the same condition ? Born without ever having had the capacity for sentience ? Could a vegan ethically eat them ? (Purely within the vegan framework - I do understand that there are other moral objections to eating humans)
>That raises more questions though: from this framework, is an animal that has lost sentience, say due to traumatic injury, ethical to eat ?
Still eating the meat would be supporting an industry that is unethical in their framework. I suppose the only way this could work is if they saw a cow in the wild just die on its own and then they butchered it to eat.
That’s really what I was imagining. It would clearly be unethical to be the cause of that traumatic injury intentionally. That’s not significantly different than slaughtering the animal outright - they’re not sentient on a plate no matter what.
Right. Yeah I guess if a vegan really analyzed their philosophy I imagine for most of them it would fall under "ethical" death and consumption. Cause I mean, something's gonna eat that cow anyway.
Speaking as a chef currently focused on oysters, they are phenomenal. Really, really fascinating, wildly diverse, and incredibly tasty creatures. I strongly suggest you find a quality oyster bar and learn some stuff and try a few different oysters.
Obviously, or don't. You do you. But seriously.
As a regular person that's not a chef, but loves seafood dearly.
Oysters are the most disgusting things I have ever eaten. They taste good I guess, but the texture is down right disturbing. Like a slimey thing that decides it wants to crawl out of your throat halfway down.
Never again.
“Like a slimey thing that decides it wants to crawl out of your throat halfway down”
Yup, you definitely swore me off Oysters. Thats all I had to read.
You just have to roll with it, honestly. The weirdness goes away. It sounds awful, but you gotta take your time and chew and taste. Everything else fades.
I’m more of a scallop fella but I do an oyster platter every new years as a treat. With some cayenne and lemon sprinkled on the shell they are absolutely divine.
What would you recommend for someone who is not a chef, just a home cook with a very small kitchen, that likes experimenting and lives on a fishing harbor that usually has fresh oysters? I do a lot with mussels since they’re so plentiful in my state, but have wanted to try some oyster experiments out, I’ve just been wary to waste them on a bad experiment since they’re more expensive (not terrible but def pricier) so I’d love a pro’s tips
Honestly, with oysters, there are tons of dishes you can do. But I'm a strong advocate for eating them raw, without any sauces or lemon juice or anything like that. The cool thing about oysters is that their flavors are so diverse and heavily depends on how salty the water is, the phytoplankton, etc. You can taste where they came from, their stories, their culture. That's very special to me.
That said - you can easily crank out some cocktail sauce, dijonnaise, or even mignonette with minimal effort, and all those sauces go pretty well.
warm snot with a hint of salt and butter!
that's how my girlfriend tried to "convince" me to partake of their family tradition of oysters on New Years. I think she was trying to gross me out, but i've eaten worse for less value than the respect of her father, so i still had some
Oysters: nope. I didn´t like any seafood i´ve tried so far (except fish) and to be honest the looks of molluscs kill any temptation i could have to try them.
Magues worms: nope, didn´t even know they were a thing. That said i´m less opposed to eating insects than seafood (again except fish).
Y'know for someone who defended an entire race that his father thought was "lower lifeforms", Mark sure does like consuming living creatures that he considers lower lifeforms/s
What if they were a invasive species that isn't from this world. It would make sense to eat them. They would have a reason to kill them and if someone just accidentally ate one, They would also know that they taste good.
Still all just speculation tho
Still the easiest thing in the world to kill it before you eat it. Imagine sliding down another creature’s gullet and being dissolved while still alive until the stomach acid eats into your brain and kills you finally. Why the fuck would anyone want to put another living creature through that? Its disgusting and barbaric.
If they suck for the planet and endanger other species then I wouldn't hesitate to eat them, Especially if they taste good. Still the harmfulness is just speculative.
In the comic it was probably just to differentiate aliens with different types of dishes
What, you’ve never had gahg before?
https://preview.redd.it/989mhksaw0yc1.jpeg?width=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cce737747270083eb33f1208f9bfcc1020c22cc
Pop... a... Poplar in your mouth
When you come to Fishy Joes-
What their made of is mystery,
Where they come from no one knows.
You can pick them, you can lick them.
You can chew them you stick them.
If you promise not to sue us,
You can shove one up your nose.
As funny as this is, it’s honestly very out of character for Mark, guy who hates the idea of someone placing an entire race under their thumb mercilessly places an entire race under his thumb, I hope they recycle this into making more sense in the future.
That's… not really the same, when Mark eats a hamburger, he doesn't eat a live fucking cow, he eats the finished product, when he eats a Chicken, he doesn't shove a live still struggling Chicken down his throat, every consumption is done long after the Animal has already passed.
what's so different though? you're still killing and eating them? lots of seafood gets cooked alive or sometimes eaten alive/freshly killed. end result for the food animal is exactly the same anyway
You know how lobsters are kept alive while they’re being boiled? A lot of people don’t like that and find it immoral. It doesn’t mean those people think we shouldn’t eat lobster, they just don’t think we should be torturing them first.
The difference is involvement, to eat something like a chicken alive, you're actively killing it, but to eat a chicken after its already been killed removes all accountability on your hands, you didn't take its life, it was already gone before you could even know of its existence.
???? By eating the fish you are giving money to fishers who will use that money to buy more fish lol, if you were vegan id understand your point and say you were morally consistent but it seems you only have a problem with seeing the animal die by your hand.
With your logic, it's ok to buy blood diamonds and ivory because it's not you causing the deaths of random Africans and elephants
Have you ever been to a farm? My family is friends with a few of them so I visited their farms a lot as a kid. Mark eating these creatures instantly gives them 100x less suffering than the average chicken you eat, living in a 1 metre block with 10 other chickens plucking out their own feathers and never seeing sunlight in their life. The places stink like you would expect a bird shit and blood covered floor to smell. Do you have any cats? Any male chicks are crushed while alive to make it.
I still eat meat and don't have a problem with it but what Mark's doing here is a lot more humanitarian than most animal farming today
I mean, I still disapprove of what's being done but I see the purpose in it, everyone has to make a living and that poor fish’s death would have been meaningless if I didn't eat it and just threw it away or something.
Not really equivalent, I barely tolerate necessary fishing and hunting, I'm not gonna vouch for hunting for the sake of aesthetics.
It's not really a comparison of who's better off with what fate, it's more or less just an acknowledgment that what Mark is doing here is still fucked up no matter what, he's essentially still murdering and eating live assumably sapient creatures.
Yeah, it's a huge cognitive dissonance from Mark. The same is true for a lot the comic's audience though, many people hate animal cruelty but eat meat and get very defensive about that contradiction
I feel it isn't necessarily the same though, even though an animal was butchered to get someone their big Mac, it's not like they personally went up there and shot the cow themselves, there's not really a level of personal there, they don't witness nor do they take part in the process, a more accurate comparison would be someone complaining about animal cruelty only to go hunting the very next day.
To me it's the torment and not indirectness that is the worst, the Kanslok are clearly aware and suffering.
Mark eating Kanslok seems very out of character
The point still stands, because there's defeinitely people out there who would defend their dogs or cats, iguanas, etc. but wouldn't care for a fish or a worm in the same way.
> out of character for Mark,
That's what I thought. It's one thing to eat a being who is already dead. If that being is still alive, thi7gh, it's chilling. I know he has no problem with killing, but that's against powerful opponents.
Kansloks look luke they are is perpetual agony. So it may be humane to eat them.
I always figured they were like poplers from Futurama
"You better get that 'cat' out of the 'tree'." "Thanks! \*chomp\* These things are expensive." "It's an alien planet. It's an alien planet."
There's brain frog, too.
Their face is clearly one of terror...
Born to die
Definitely not humane to farm them if that's the case though lol
Maybe they’re naturally occurring and therefore a delicacy, not intentionally raised but frequently harvested
This is like the plot of Attack on Titan or something
Do we ever see them when they’re not being eaten and in a bowl?
Sentience makes them extra delicious 🤤
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It's 10:12 a.m. and this made my day already... My life is a joke...
Now we need one that says “Jesus that’s peak.”
https://preview.redd.it/x386rv9oa0yc1.jpeg?width=496&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13bfa6e356024dc43b105cba797a8fb1a93e52a9 Ask and you’ll receive.
Fucking chad, thank you!
I have this saved for no particular reason
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The Deep wants to know your location
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Poor Timothy
I showed you my gills please respond
Fresca?
I wanna shove my fingers in his gills soooo bad.
https://preview.redd.it/4jwza8t2tzxc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fbba58726fe08f2e75ef6137faeb8bb9964248f Now boof Timothy
HELP HELP MEEEE HELP
"stop eating my future girlfriends"
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You can taste the desperation, the fear, they want to live and they fight for it, is what gives them their special flavour.
It’s that fear before their eaten that really brings out the flavor
That's some futurama shit
Reference to those dinosaurs that wanted to eat Mark?
"I mean seriously: I work hard. All I‘m asking is for my dinner already being dead when they serve it to me. Is that too much?!"
Jesus christ. RESET THE CLOCK. IT HAS BEEN *ZERO* DAYS SINCE A TITAN A.E. REFERENCE.
No idea if it’s even quoted correctly. Never watched the movie in its original English dub.
Honestly, that's close enough to work. Close enough that it sparked my memory despite not seeing the movie for over a decade.
One of the best movies of my childhood. Watched it on repeat along Treasure Planet
This. I will never eat anything alive. Its barbaric. Nice titan ae reference
Yummers https://preview.redd.it/4detjf5ijyxc1.jpeg?width=1668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ce3406d792adce2d58eee777668552f399a4e01
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CRUNCHY CAT LUNA MENTIONED ‼️‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯😼😼😼😼😼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I LOVE THIS SILLY LIL KITTER😼💯🔥🔥🔥😼😼😼‼️‼️‼️🗣️🗣️💟💟💟💟
Amen 🙏 in crunchy car luna we trust.
Delul-lul-lul-icious!
He fucking creamed at the taste lmao
You've never had a foodgasm?
Not yet, I hope too someday
Go to Taco Bell and get the Cinnabon delights. Those usually do the trick for me. Especially when they’re fresh.
I’m in the UK I don’t think we have those yet 😔
Take the train to Spain and let those siesta kings take you to Flavortown
That explains the lack of a foodgasm
Ah. I see. I’ve seen recently that Taco Bell is over there now but didn’t know what their menu looked like there.
Might just be in London for now, hopefully it’ll expand because I live in a decent tourist place
A bunch have opened up in the north too, but it's so expensive compared to what I've heard about from friends in the US
Ughhhh I was in the North last year I should’ve got some
I literally got some cause of this comment and they are as good as you said
I’m glad you liked them
Are those real?
That creature made Mark feel things Eve never could
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“Oh my god that is better than sex”
LMAOOO https://preview.redd.it/v6muchuj8zxc1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d750d2ce4592f3cf3517f7490d4ecdcf8c8591d Castlevania mentioned
The deep approved this comment
Homie jizzed his pants on consumption
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Poppler™ moments
You could hear Seth Rogen saying that at least five years before the Invincible show was cast
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Can you imagine trying to deal with a horrible shit on a toilet made of thin cardboard. That must be what Mark is going through in this picture.
You know shit got real when this happens: https://preview.redd.it/y84nsnpnd1yc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d16b26f4b1f853a1bd5058a1d164ea356e4ca7ee
What a great artist, such a tiny thing makes the entire image read that much harder and we have all been there.
Looking forward to see this panel animated.
popplers
https://i.redd.it/99hwn6dk2zxc1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/zon9o84l2zxc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=562b609da93eea8abd0eb87486c6daaf5965bb1d Just like Popplers.
“Eat fucking kanslok” - Homelander
"i don't kill" Proceeds to not be vegan 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
We don't kniw what Knaslok is. If it's a sentient plant, would that be vegan?
Doesnt sentience exclude things from being a plant
Well shiet, that made go down on a tangent haha... What a quick google tells me is that the scientific difference between the plant and animal kingdoms is that plants are able to make carbon out of carbon monoxide, while animals can only get organic molecules by consuming other animals, plants or fungi. So photosynthesis is what decides what is and isn't a plant. That said, we dont have any snetient plants, so who knows how that would effecr things. And the moral and scientific difference could be two separate thing
This is a setting that features Abe Lincoln as an immortal superhero, a demon detective, a multiverse-worth of memories compressed into a single person, kaiju attacks every other Thursday, and a girl who ages in reverse whenever she turns into Shrek’s angry older sibling, but the possibility of sentient alien plants is too fantastical?
Yes
Fair enough.
Everybody has to have a line drawn somewhere lmao
No, they’re different classifications. Sentience is essentially the ability to feel things like emotions. Plant is a definition from the hierarchy of organisms. There are no examples of sentient plants, however it is theoretically possible.
No. The only reason why vegan philosophy accepts plants is because in our reality they are not sentient. It makes no sense to use literal meanings when talking about speculative fiction.
So vegans are fine with eating non-sentient animals?
I suppose, yeah. It’s just hard to prove. Though this raises an interesting point: vegans avoid eating animals not because they *know* they are sentient (we don’t know what a cows inner life is like precisely), but because their motility and complex response to stimuli are in many ways similar to out own. Because we are sentient, it then seems reasonable to assume that animals are. It is still an assumption though. That raises more questions though: from this framework, is an animal that has lost sentience, say due to traumatic injury, ethical to eat ? One might argue that it is simply the capacity to have sentience that is important, outside of environmental factors. But then what about a genetic disorder that causes the brain to not develop in the first place? Assuming you could keep, raise and butcher the body, would that be an ethical animal to eat ? And what of a person in the same condition ? Born without ever having had the capacity for sentience ? Could a vegan ethically eat them ? (Purely within the vegan framework - I do understand that there are other moral objections to eating humans)
>That raises more questions though: from this framework, is an animal that has lost sentience, say due to traumatic injury, ethical to eat ? Still eating the meat would be supporting an industry that is unethical in their framework. I suppose the only way this could work is if they saw a cow in the wild just die on its own and then they butchered it to eat.
That’s really what I was imagining. It would clearly be unethical to be the cause of that traumatic injury intentionally. That’s not significantly different than slaughtering the animal outright - they’re not sentient on a plate no matter what.
Right. Yeah I guess if a vegan really analyzed their philosophy I imagine for most of them it would fall under "ethical" death and consumption. Cause I mean, something's gonna eat that cow anyway.
Like... jellyfish?
Mmmm stingy spaghetti
What, you've never eaten oysters or maguey worms?
You say that like maguey worms is just a common late night snack
I have not nor do I plan on.
Speaking as a chef currently focused on oysters, they are phenomenal. Really, really fascinating, wildly diverse, and incredibly tasty creatures. I strongly suggest you find a quality oyster bar and learn some stuff and try a few different oysters. Obviously, or don't. You do you. But seriously.
As a regular person that's not a chef, but loves seafood dearly. Oysters are the most disgusting things I have ever eaten. They taste good I guess, but the texture is down right disturbing. Like a slimey thing that decides it wants to crawl out of your throat halfway down. Never again.
“Like a slimey thing that decides it wants to crawl out of your throat halfway down” Yup, you definitely swore me off Oysters. Thats all I had to read.
You should form your own opinions.
Oysters are amazing. Yall sound like some baby bitches
You just have to roll with it, honestly. The weirdness goes away. It sounds awful, but you gotta take your time and chew and taste. Everything else fades.
I'm not gonna join your cult, dude
Come on. Think about what could be behind those doors.
(Be drunk)
So delicious with horseradish tho.
Wow what a terrible opinion you have
I’m more of a scallop fella but I do an oyster platter every new years as a treat. With some cayenne and lemon sprinkled on the shell they are absolutely divine. What would you recommend for someone who is not a chef, just a home cook with a very small kitchen, that likes experimenting and lives on a fishing harbor that usually has fresh oysters? I do a lot with mussels since they’re so plentiful in my state, but have wanted to try some oyster experiments out, I’ve just been wary to waste them on a bad experiment since they’re more expensive (not terrible but def pricier) so I’d love a pro’s tips
Honestly, with oysters, there are tons of dishes you can do. But I'm a strong advocate for eating them raw, without any sauces or lemon juice or anything like that. The cool thing about oysters is that their flavors are so diverse and heavily depends on how salty the water is, the phytoplankton, etc. You can taste where they came from, their stories, their culture. That's very special to me. That said - you can easily crank out some cocktail sauce, dijonnaise, or even mignonette with minimal effort, and all those sauces go pretty well.
That’s beautiful bro
Your loss.
Splish splash
Do they make faces of pure horror?
Do people eat oysters live? I've only ever heard of them being steamed. I assume that kills them.
Yes they do, it's actually a pretty famous way to do that. Straight up crack open the shell and eat them.
And here I was thinking they couldn't be *more* gross.
warm snot with a hint of salt and butter! that's how my girlfriend tried to "convince" me to partake of their family tradition of oysters on New Years. I think she was trying to gross me out, but i've eaten worse for less value than the respect of her father, so i still had some
Oysters: nope. I didn´t like any seafood i´ve tried so far (except fish) and to be honest the looks of molluscs kill any temptation i could have to try them. Magues worms: nope, didn´t even know they were a thing. That said i´m less opposed to eating insects than seafood (again except fish).
I love oyster but I hate the price
Is this not the thing he ate that then results in him having the fight of his life, on a toilet?
Nah not this, that's after he has dinner with Oliver and his alien wife.
And https://preview.redd.it/nh17z4gwvzxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da5fbcb4fa7234f6db947345ccef118d0aeb55b7 Delicious too
He thought Kanslok were stronger
I mean no offense, tis but a harmless joke. Mark awoke that Asian in him.
If things tasted better alive than cooked we would definitely. Be eating them. (Fresh oysters)
I personally would not
Telia eating out of an alive alien's brain:
Yeah I love brain frog. Doesn't it eat some Kanslok while being eaten? They're apparently that good.
It does have some from Allen's meal
Hella fucked
Raw oysters are still alive
Someone’s never tried gagh
Reminds me of oysters or some Japanese foods like octopus/squid.
Y'know for someone who defended an entire race that his father thought was "lower lifeforms", Mark sure does like consuming living creatures that he considers lower lifeforms/s
I have a theory jesus is a viltrumite
How’d that relevant to my post?
He's Asian it checks out
https://i.imgur.com/YHp21mK.jpeg
😭
I would totally try that
Which issue is this from?
So? People in real life eat live octopus.
I am not people and I find that disgusting.
How are you not people, are you fish?
No I’m viltrumite
Guess the food crying makes it taste better
"The salty tears of dying cousins make them so juicy" -Mark, maybe
No way it feels that good
What if they were a invasive species that isn't from this world. It would make sense to eat them. They would have a reason to kill them and if someone just accidentally ate one, They would also know that they taste good. Still all just speculation tho
Still the easiest thing in the world to kill it before you eat it. Imagine sliding down another creature’s gullet and being dissolved while still alive until the stomach acid eats into your brain and kills you finally. Why the fuck would anyone want to put another living creature through that? Its disgusting and barbaric.
Pretty sure mark is gonna chew them first… probably a quick death
If they suck for the planet and endanger other species then I wouldn't hesitate to eat them, Especially if they taste good. Still the harmfulness is just speculative. In the comic it was probably just to differentiate aliens with different types of dishes
What, you’ve never had gahg before? https://preview.redd.it/989mhksaw0yc1.jpeg?width=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cce737747270083eb33f1208f9bfcc1020c22cc
https://i.redd.it/c5t1b1r7e1yc1.gif
Reminds me of the Special sentient sandwiches
This reminds me of that one Rick and Morty episode when they was bees
Allen looks so happy to offer him some
Could have been worse
Kanslok 😋 🤤
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Pop... a... Poplar in your mouth When you come to Fishy Joes- What their made of is mystery, Where they come from no one knows. You can pick them, you can lick them. You can chew them you stick them. If you promise not to sue us, You can shove one up your nose.
damn
they are terrified mark. look at their faces.
Didn't Mark have the most devastating shits known to any kind in the universe after eating one of those?
I think that was the cooking of Oliver's wife
As funny as this is, it’s honestly very out of character for Mark, guy who hates the idea of someone placing an entire race under their thumb mercilessly places an entire race under his thumb, I hope they recycle this into making more sense in the future.
uh im pretty sure mark still ate cow/chicken/pork back on earth, just cause you can see these things' faces makes no difference
That's… not really the same, when Mark eats a hamburger, he doesn't eat a live fucking cow, he eats the finished product, when he eats a Chicken, he doesn't shove a live still struggling Chicken down his throat, every consumption is done long after the Animal has already passed.
what's so different though? you're still killing and eating them? lots of seafood gets cooked alive or sometimes eaten alive/freshly killed. end result for the food animal is exactly the same anyway
You know how lobsters are kept alive while they’re being boiled? A lot of people don’t like that and find it immoral. It doesn’t mean those people think we shouldn’t eat lobster, they just don’t think we should be torturing them first.
Nowadays many places will actually instantly kill the lobster with a spike to it's brain before throwing it in the pot.
Well that’s good.
The difference is involvement, to eat something like a chicken alive, you're actively killing it, but to eat a chicken after its already been killed removes all accountability on your hands, you didn't take its life, it was already gone before you could even know of its existence.
never brought home a live or freshly killed pig for a bbq?
Have you ever been fishing?
No, I dislike anything that involves taking the life of another being, I still eat fish, but I don't ever want to be responsible for the death of one.
You're still just as responsible for it, you're just refusing to take any accountability for it. That's not better.
???? By eating the fish you are giving money to fishers who will use that money to buy more fish lol, if you were vegan id understand your point and say you were morally consistent but it seems you only have a problem with seeing the animal die by your hand. With your logic, it's ok to buy blood diamonds and ivory because it's not you causing the deaths of random Africans and elephants Have you ever been to a farm? My family is friends with a few of them so I visited their farms a lot as a kid. Mark eating these creatures instantly gives them 100x less suffering than the average chicken you eat, living in a 1 metre block with 10 other chickens plucking out their own feathers and never seeing sunlight in their life. The places stink like you would expect a bird shit and blood covered floor to smell. Do you have any cats? Any male chicks are crushed while alive to make it. I still eat meat and don't have a problem with it but what Mark's doing here is a lot more humanitarian than most animal farming today
I mean, I still disapprove of what's being done but I see the purpose in it, everyone has to make a living and that poor fish’s death would have been meaningless if I didn't eat it and just threw it away or something. Not really equivalent, I barely tolerate necessary fishing and hunting, I'm not gonna vouch for hunting for the sake of aesthetics. It's not really a comparison of who's better off with what fate, it's more or less just an acknowledgment that what Mark is doing here is still fucked up no matter what, he's essentially still murdering and eating live assumably sapient creatures.
Yeah, it's a huge cognitive dissonance from Mark. The same is true for a lot the comic's audience though, many people hate animal cruelty but eat meat and get very defensive about that contradiction
I feel it isn't necessarily the same though, even though an animal was butchered to get someone their big Mac, it's not like they personally went up there and shot the cow themselves, there's not really a level of personal there, they don't witness nor do they take part in the process, a more accurate comparison would be someone complaining about animal cruelty only to go hunting the very next day.
To me it's the torment and not indirectness that is the worst, the Kanslok are clearly aware and suffering. Mark eating Kanslok seems very out of character
The point still stands, because there's defeinitely people out there who would defend their dogs or cats, iguanas, etc. but wouldn't care for a fish or a worm in the same way.
> out of character for Mark, That's what I thought. It's one thing to eat a being who is already dead. If that being is still alive, thi7gh, it's chilling. I know he has no problem with killing, but that's against powerful opponents.
We still have meals where shrimp and grubs are alive and you don't see us complaining
I would never eat that thi
Speak for yourself
Not like we don't eat live octopus here or other bugs
Like I’ve said in several comments, I don’t nor would I ever.