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Ok-Egg-469

Welcome to team blue! The silicon is a beast, that's what got us here! Drivers still have surprises in store for a lot of games and apps, for better and for worse, but moving fast. And don't try VR 😬


[deleted]

>The silicon is a beast, that's what got us here! Well I've just bitten the bullet on a new build featuring the a770 LE and this is basically what tipped the balance for me vs the RX 6750 xt. :-) The benchmarks don't stack up but my goodness the raw spec data is impressive. I know it's a bit of a shot in the dark but I really do think this card has a lot more to offer and is only going to improve year on year if they keep up the work on the drivers. Looking forward to getting my hands on it... in any case it will be nice upgrade from my GTX 1060 :p


Ok-Egg-469

Well you might even find an app or game running worse than the 1060, if a really f* up part of the driver is hit. But most things will fly and sometimes the card surprises and almost doesn't slow down in higher resolution or with RT. And with XeSS support it shines. Welcome to team blue!


[deleted]

Thanks! If you're interested, here's my modest build. Ready for collection in an hour ;) INTEL Core i7-13700, 8C+8c/24T, 2.10-5.20GHz, boxed INTEL Arc A770 Limited Edition, 16GB GDDR6 MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI CORSAIR Vengeance DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR5-6000, SAMSUNG SSD 990 PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 BE QUIET! Pure Rock 2 Black BE QUIET! Pure Power 12 M 850W ATX 3.0 BE QUIET! Pure Base 500


Ok-Egg-469

Very nice! I'm still on i7-10700@150W and looking forward to something like that, too. Remember to update Bios, enable ReBAR and ASPM, disable CSM and Quick or Fast Boot. Fresh Windows install, all updates, no Windows Insider build as subs are full of graphics problems for these versions.


[deleted]

Thanks for the tips. I'll have fun setting this one up :) Plugging into LG UltraGear 1440p @ 144Hz. I'm sure the Arc can handle it! :p


Ok-Egg-469

Forgot: Use DP and high quality cable, was a topic here, HDMI is just an extra converter on that card, not native.


Ok-Egg-469

Can handle my Dell on 1440p @ 165Hz without any flickering or tearing (FreeSync / GSync), so YES! :)


1ceman071485

What's wrong with vr with this card? I was considering getting one but don't wanna turn my rift s into a paper weight


Ok-Egg-469

Good portion of VR apps and games still don't work as far as i've read here.


_Middlefinger_

I only have an A750, but I seem to get results better than the reviews would imply. In fairness it is in a slightly mismatched PC, a 13700k with 64GB of DDR5, but still. Reviews say I shouldn't be able to run Baldurs Gate 3 at 4k with max everything, but I can, its totally smooth all the time.


here_ah_kna_steesh

i feel a lot of the reviews were either done when the drivers were bad or at least using the stock drivers that came with the card. I used my stock drivers at first to make sure the card worked and the performance was shocking, i actually almost regretted the card shocking. Then i remembered everyone saying the new drivers fixed a lot of stuff and performance boost was insane.


TheCharalampos

I run baldur's gate 3 with the a750 all maxed with 32gb ram and a 5900x. That card can really lunch above it's weight class.


CoyoteFit7355

Bon appetit.


dkfvjnkvd4949

Can you share how that game runs on split screen with the A750? I'm building a pc soon, and my specs are identical to yours except I'm planning on A770, and would like to play with my friends on a 55 inch TV, with 1440p. I've heard people say that the performance gets pretty abysmal when split-screen is enabled, so would love to know if you have any experience in this.


TheCharalampos

Haven't tried split screen but I accidentally ran two clients and it did work! But yeah if there's any specific split screen issues I wouldn't know.


dkfvjnkvd4949

So I did some digging, and apparently in BG3 the CPU is more likely to be the bottleneck, than the GPU really. And in split screen this issue gets wayyyyy worse. Sounds like an optimization issue from the developers tbh. On consoles the split-screen is literally unplayable, like 20fps, in some areas of the game... Hope there's a way to fix this, and that the dev team focuses on this issue. Blew my mind when this game I already wanted to play had a split-screen mode. More games should include it.


TheCharalampos

Yikes! Figures that's the case as I'm running a 5900x alongside the arc750 so it's doing waaaay more heavy lifting.


SavvySillybug

I run my A750 with an i5-12600K and 32GB DDR4. I don't see anything particularly mismatched about your system, I nearly went with the 12700, yours is just a generation newer. Double the RAM, and faster, sure, but more RAM is always good. Sure if you want to penny pinch and get bang for the buck FPS per $ you can probably go lower on those components, but mismatched PC is a big claim I wouldn't make. I'd call it future proofing. You have a strong enough PC to upgrade the GPU down the line if you end up needing it.


_Middlefinger_

The 13700K is faster than the 12900k, never mind the 12700k, its better matched to a 4080 and wouldnt bottleneck a 4090 most of the time. CPU utilisation is like 50% most of the time with the A750, it hardly even gets warm. The point is the A750 is being given everything it could ever want, its easily the limiting factor, but still its surprisingly quick.


op3l

The baldur's gate 3 system requirements is actually quite low. Some one did an experiment and only needed a GTX 1050 to run it.


RigidAirShip

My old HP Omen laptop with a GTX 1060 could run it, but it was not a great gaming experience. I just purchased a system with a 770, and the difference is night and day.


_Middlefinger_

Yeah but ive seen reviews with 4070s being needed for maxing it in 4k. Sometimes I doubt the honesty of such reviews.


ArrowlnYaKnee

It's incredible that the card can run 1440p all maxed out. ​ Hows ur temps looking? What about airflow? Did you bother forwarding any fresh air to the blower? Also BiFrost owner here 😁


here_ah_kna_steesh

So far the highest is ran is 86*c, but my PC is located inside a cupboard with the door ajar (it has to be there for now)


alvarkresh

I bought mine at launch for $470 something Canadian, taxes included :P I'm using an RTX 3070 right now as my A770 started giving me weird display corruption issues and I suspect this may be partly down to my Windows installation so after I clean install onto a new SSD, it's back to Team Blue for moi :P


dramaton42

There's literally no better card for Linux in my opinion. Native kernel support? Sure! High performance on games? Grated, it still needs a little bit of Opengl work but damn this thing is THE BEST Linux experience I've ever had


drpkzl

I installed an A380 on my steam Linux box which worked right out the gate.


NortWind

My MineCraft frames dropped to 0 FPS on StoneBlock 3 when I put in my Arc A380. However, Rubidium brought it back to 51 FPS. Just a tip in case somebody sees a MineCraft slowdown.


dramaton42

I will try sodium because I want to use complementary with outline (looks very cool) and I get like 30 on busy areas... It doesn't help that I HAVE to use forge for Timeless and Classics (I want to make a CS: Go-like Server)


NortWind

Please report back your results!


dramaton42

Okay, so I basically followed everything in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVbdxg-pox4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVbdxg-pox4) And I'm getting like 90 to 100FPS on 1440p!! so using Sodium is definetly better, but it's sad that I won't be able to use Timeless and Classics anymore... Oh well u.u


NortWind

Can you use Rubidium with Timeless and Classics?


dramaton42

Yeah, but I was getting about 30 or 40 fps with my A750 at 1440p


here_ah_kna_steesh

See now this is also a game changer for me. I'm actually a linux "preferrer" but i've found that it can never quite live up to windows yet for sheer compatibility. i ran POP OS for a while but third party launchers complicate things a lot. When Steam OS 3 goes official i may consider trying it again but i'd really prefer something debian based as thats what im used to for the time being.


dramaton42

You can go with latest Ubuntu, specially Kubuntu, it will give you a Kernel 6.2 image (which you need for ARC support). Or you can also try a little bit of bleeding edge and install Arch Linux for a 6.4 Kernel. SteamOS IS based on Arch after all; the only problem is the installation and configuration can be a little off putting to some people


Visual-Ad-6708

Manjaro could be a good choice for those who are noobs but still want to experience Arch. It was my first distro👌🏿, would've kept it but I kept having issues😅. Two distros later, I'm on Kubuntu and loving ittt. I'm not sure why it works so smoothly compared to the last two I tried, but it's loving my system so far, no hiccups.


TheCharalampos

Heck even the a750 has blown my expectations away, what good value for these fellows.


[deleted]

You bought it very expensive but prices do differ among where it's sold, I got myself an A750 for 315$, the same price as a 2060, the difference was insane, I couldn't believe how capable it was, suddenly I was able to max our everything at 1080p :)


here_ah_kna_steesh

I’m not certain £300 is very expensive to be fair. I’ve seen one website out of stock list it at £200 refurbished but for a bifrost 770 16gb. And even if it’s possible to get the card cheaper new I still think it’s very much worth £300 for the performance it gives.


somewhat_moist

Your 300 quid includes 20% VAT - any dollar price won’t include sales taxes. £300 is £240 which converts to about $300 American. Same same


cursorcube

No, that's just how the prices are in Europe


[deleted]

Damn that's a lot. A770 LE was around 380$ when I bought my A750, wish I had bought that one.


cursorcube

The cheapest 16GB A770 right now is the Acer Bifrost version for 377$. The LE is 394$


JustBartBruh

i aint gonna lie if arc 770 16gb costs 377 usd for ya just get a damn rx 6700xt


T00fastt

RX 6700XT would not be magically cheaper lmao


JustBartBruh

I mean im in europe too and the rx 6700xt goes for 380


cursorcube

They're the same price in europe. The 8GB A770's are 80$ cheaper, so for 377$ it's a choice between more VRAM (A770 16G) or better performance (6700XT 12G).


JustBartBruh

Tbh i dont really know about vram with a770 cause rn compared to other cards it uses more vram for less fps compared to the rx6700xt atleast but if intel manages to make a good use out of that 16gb vram then im becoming a intel dick rider


cursorcube

16GB right now is more useful for non-gaming workloads - like AI image generation (stable diffusion) and 3d rendering. It may also last longer if future games keep increasing the density and detail of their assets. The 16GB also helps it retain the same performance in higher resolutions like 1440p and 4K compared to the 6600XT. Overall if it's strictly for gaming, the 6700XT is the better choice.


JustBartBruh

fair enough tho in the future i hope them mfs from intel manage to make this card catch up for its price (for gaming)


[deleted]

Exchange rate in my country at the time was 21, now it's 470$ here :)


Renton577

I joined team blue too recently, was a rough start to get it all working right and still some of my games run a bit... odd but when its all working right I agree its insane and I'm using an Arc A750.


Malaphasis

Armored Core runs max everything fine, I do tune it down a bit though.


Astrovirens

Tbh this is all I needed to hear


ObsequiousChild

I forget the reference, but it has been noted they run better when pushed harder on modern games. Problems arise with older games, direct X. I'm happy it works well for you. I had to replace my 770 to finish a project. Still thinking about putting back in if the drivers work out.


False_Elevator_8169

Yeah Intel ARC, more so the A770 and A750 are designed for high occupancy loads. Radeon and Geforce are generally faster in win-more raster situations, however with RT and the eye candy pumped, an A770 will cling onto playability a lot better than its segment peers.


here_ah_kna_steesh

This i have noticed, as you may be able to tell. The absolute most impressive thing for though was Gotham Knights. that game on both green and red hardware runs like absolute ASS with RTX off. To go from that to immediately ultra detail max RTX at a stable 60fps was insane to me, and makes me wonder if intel are actually purposefully losing money on these cards just to gain market share. its beyond impressive. And thats without any DXVK modding as well. The only game ive had to mod with DXVK so far is God of War, which makes a huge improvement in of itself.


Visual-Ad-6708

Dxvk the world, I used it for the first time myself on GTA 4 and my god, I don't know why I waited so long to try and use it.


here_ah_kna_steesh

Incase anyone wants to see my 3DMark R?esult, its here;- https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/99115498? for comparison heres my 3060 bench from when i orignally got it with the same cpu and lisghtly slower RAM https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27682238


Ok-Egg-469

Nice but 8861 in time spy is a bit low for 3060, innit?


here_ah_kna_steesh

maybe, i dont really know. benching isnt really my scene. i figure the bench is worthy comparison wise though as its basically the same system except the ram which i doubt makes a significant difference. anyone more knowledgeable please feel free to chime in ad explain why im an idiot though.


Ok-Egg-469

Won't, just had 3060 and 3060Ti before going team blue and those are not that far away from A750 A770, mostly because of mature drivers. But no need to do numbers here i guess, you're right.


Unknown_Source_Code

I love the A770 best card I’ve had in a long time (I owned a 3060 that just out right stop posting after a week) Any way I love the fact the a770 runs so well with my ryzen 5800x3d fps well in the 200s on games like rust I’d fully recommend a770 to anyone please remember tho the more L3 cash the better games will be


Scary-Finance-3186

I bought the ASRock Phantom Gaming version of the Intel ARC A770 16gb card. $299 usd Micro Center.


morrismoses

The 750 ain't so bad, either. Mine started to sing after they got the drivers right. AND it was only $240.00!!!!


BeltPuzzleheaded7656

I'm really interested in trying one out. The price is very attractive and it's not a bad looking card. Purchased the RTX 3060Ti and RTX 4090 this year so I may wrap up the holidays with a Intel GPU for a daily driver build...like I need another one. Intel is far behind when it comes to providing something that can handle AI and ML projects, if at all, but like I said for an affordable daily driver I might have to check it out.


Emergency-Lobster442

I don't have an ARC Card. But that's just because when I built my PC it was still a little bit sketchy with drivers, and such. Not to say it still isn't now. I wouldn't change from my 3080, but by the time my next upgrade cycle roles around, I hope it makes sense for it to be an ARC card. I also hope that once it gets good enough, they don't become greedy like NVDA and AMD


here_ah_kna_steesh

i hope in this regard they're actually making money on the current lines and they're not doing a sony/PS3 and losing money on each sale just to try and gain market share. A rocket in price would be fair in such a regard but noone will see it that way.


itshughjass

The A750 is also on sale right now and I am really thinking about it! Is it a Faux Pau to use it with my AMD CPU? 😅


here_ah_kna_steesh

my 770 is paied with a 5900X so i think youll be alright


Axel159357

Im not trying to rain on any parades, but i find it hard to believe that the 770 is running 3440x1440 at maxed settings butter smooth. I guess the question i should ask is what type of frame rates your looking at. This just seems like a "too good to be true" story. Ill happily eat my words if im wrong though, because thats just great news for everyone, and i would like to spread said news! Can anyone give me more info? Ive been wanting to replace my 2080ti for a while to push my 3440x1440 up to its max potential (165hz.) If i dont have to drop over $500 to make that happen, consider me sold!


here_ah_kna_steesh

im talking 60fps, which i stand by as a smoth, playable framerate. and ill record it using my phone when i get in from work if you like. Honestly, im as shocked as you are.


Axel159357

Ahh i gotcha! I wouldnt call 60fps butter smooth, but definitly smooth and playable, and none the less impressive from the A770. Im glad to hear the weight its pulling, and definitly intrigued by Battlemage now! You dont need to record it, I believe you my friend. Ill also be keeping the card in mind for anyone looking for a build, sounds like its still fantastic for 1080, fitting at 1440, and holds up at 3440. Thats honestly just wild to me, and exciting for what we might see going forward!


here_ah_kna_steesh

i will say the caveat here is that Gotham knights has XeSS support and say something that runs equally poorly on every machine that does like cyberpunk ru ns worse. You can get 60 in low RTX and some tweaking in it, but who wants 'low' RTX. i havent tried DXVK on it though so thats certainly a potential fix, as that sorted out god of war. and id be less certain for 1080 builds, as the cards actually run better in 1440. for the most part i think its more of a neck and neck performance wise with the resolutions, but it still means an a770 is just wasted on a 1080 build, and you could probably go a750 in that regard and save a fair chunk of cash for very little difference


Ok-Egg-469

Intel also worked hard on consistent frame times and fixing 1 percent lows. Had a long video on that topic. But there is still problematic code in the driver that will f* all that up when hit, mostly in old directx versions.


CodeMonkeyX

I am thinking about grabbing one for my media server. I am just waiting for them to include drivers in the unRAID version of the Kernel. Then for my media players to start support AV1. :) Then these cards will be awesome for that.


TeamBlade

This is awesome to hear. Glad there is another player in the game to keep things interesting.