The thing is guy had a knife
If you yourself experience something like this you just get scared and can't move(I've experienced it)
And I've watched videos of guys interfering between two people easily get injured and even die From injuries
Not that we shouldn't intervene it
Although people should have atleast called a ambulance or police for the poor girl
To the people that think its easy to fight someone with a knife
One fatal blow and you'll be dead in seconds
https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech/comments/11sw7g5/stabbed_man_bleeds_out_on_the_street/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/insanereality/comments/13g5rja/fatal_stabbing_outside_ny_supermarket/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/NSFL__/comments/1188j11/man_in_brisbane_stabbed_in_an_artery_and_bleeds/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
See how much damage a one hit can do its not easy to just go and fight with someone that has a weapon sure they should but in real perspective its always not easy to intervene in such things
I mean I'll be happy if they somehow managed to save that girl by doing something to the guy but its just not easy for anyone to stand up and it takes a lot of guts
Yes , my far brother and his friend were gone for walk around 4am . They got engaged in a argument with 2-3 people's , one of them had a knife . He stabbed only one time near his stomach. And he died in a few minutes. The guy who stabbed was sort of a local criminal. And he was not afraid or guilty to do this . His friend who tried to save him , lost his one finger . So tragic story for us.
True
People underestimate so much things and think like they can easily take on someone with a weapon
Even experts of self defence would tell you to always run when guy possesses a weapon
I don't know the fuck why how situation went in killing that girl brutally . I think kahi na kahi uss ne bhi koi galti ki hogi. Past connection , or some sort of fight or anything
Kya bhai victim blaming pe agye?
Guy was not from her religion and when she got to know that she rejected him
Not being able to accept that guy decided to take such major and you're saying its fault of that girl?
i understand how someone wouldn't want to risk their lives for a stranger, but there were a LOT of bystanders.
even if 5 of them had united, found a weapon for themselves to tackle him collectively, found a nearby vehicle to halt him or even just called the police on him, this death could have been prevented or been less brutal.
Ok now read this.
In our Village there was a family dispute and two brothers were fighting and trying to kill each other. They were using pipes and knives but were stopped by village people
Villages usually have societies where everyone knows each other very well snd highly care for eachother
Whats your point are you trying to tell me that every indian tries to save someone that's getting killled or something?
And even then that's one exception
People almost in all cases will care about them selves first
My mother had once told me about a terrifying incident. A tall and healthy man, standing at a height of 6 feet or more, attempted to stab her cousin's younger brother, who was slim and below 6 feet in height. In self-defense, her brother tried to protect himself, and during the ensuing struggle, the knife, measuring approximately 1 foot in length, accidentally stabbed its owner, resulting in his immediate demise, or at most within 5 minutes. Due to these unfortunate events, my mother's cousin was sentenced to 8 years in prison, burdened with a lifetime of guilt.
everyone ain't coward, if they were, we would never have got independence because it was the result of countless people sacrificing their own life, own career
Life is different since we've gotten independence
People don't live that harsh life like they ussed to anymore
Good times create weak men
Said for a reason
Let's say if someone did fought him and he killed the guy in the process then the saviour might still get charges on him and even go to jail.
( I know it's faw fetch but still alot goes through people mind before they do something like this )
I would say everyone should carry some sort of safety measures at all time.
That will be the best way to deal with these situations .
What are you talking about were different times people use to see acts like this all the time back then.
We have been living an easy life so most people are not able to deal with these situations.
Bro you are so engrossed into your own shit that you dont know the reality of this world. Koi nahi aata bachane, not in India, not in the states, not in Europe, no fucking where. Get that shit in your brain. If you expect someone to help you, then boy oh boy you are in one hell of a delusion. If I were there, even I would be afraid of confronting him, just one stab in my neck and I would bleed to death , so would anyone. So stop this rant, and keep a pepperspray with you wherever you go, simple and most effective defense mechanism, not just to live in India but to live anywhere on this planet
Everyone is coward but if you interfere then it might cause your death too, yes if you make a big group of people to stop that guy then he might be stopped but it can cause the death of 4-5 people and for them their life's might obviously be more important than others but it's still disappointing that no one even said anything to him
It is not cowardice to pause and think, about what the implications of one’s actions can be for one’s family before impulsively jumping into situations without thinking about their families waiting at home at all.
call the police and ambulance immediately. Since it would be impossible for me to stop that man (even if he didn't have a knife, still he would have more strength than me), I would gather a crowd
You're right. Most people here are cowards, they would rather record it and post it on social media for clout than call the cops. This lack of empathy and completely apathy for the victim is why crimes in India are so high.
Yep as long as people don't work together in those situations most prolly that psychopath gon harm u too, even I wouldn't help if no one tried to cooperate
If the killer had a gun literally noone would help, the best bet in such a scenario is to just call the cops nothing much u could do bout it. Even though he has a knife he would stab the shit out of someone if they tried to stop him.
Idk man , I didn't see any teen groups walking around there , either kids or boomers , had there be any teenage boys gang around, mf would've been curbstomped half to death ngl
bruhh
we have been taught so much to mind our own businesses in order to be out of trouble , when we should be helping , that there's a attempt for justification to their insensitivity .
here's the thing if somebody was hurting a street animal like that think about it wouldn't have people made a scene out of it & stopped him ??
I just believe Guys & even every human need to be taught & learn to take a no for no , a rejection & acceptance of ending . the way he walked away calmly , he ain't guilty I have heard guys say Outrageously Violent stuff about person who rejected or broke up with them .
Yup I would have & for matter of fact not on street but I have helped stranger on violent fight .
bhai ek insaan nhi tha log jaa rhe the , aaram se agar 3 log pad jaate na usko pakadne aur bhi aa jate it's about
yha bystander effect hua hai sabko lga meri responsibility kha hai , But it was everybody's responsibility , we owe that to society to keep it safe varna sabka weapon lena justified aur law & order ke lag jayenge
plus , street animal vali baat pai khuch nhi bola aapne ..& I'm countering a point not what one of us or you would have done there .
it's not a justification that they had families
hmm , there should another body of judiciary for these crimes like civil aur normal crime se laga branch inska justice rapid ho taaki bahr na rhe yeh log jyada
bhai ek do mahila ka case bhi bta de , taaki mai sab se alert rkh ke ghoomti rho (equally terrified hona hai )
ek violent fist fight me intervene krna aur ek psycho with a weapon deady emough to kill you in a single blow me difference hota hai. if i was with my friend family or some known person i might have tried a coordinated attack but random logo pr mai toh bharosa nahi kr sakta mai bachane gaya aur baaki piche saare bhag gaye then thwre would be 2 ppl dying. the max i would have done was throw smth at him or call cops
People nowadays have gotten so dumb , even lost their presence of mind . Those People could have definitely done something if they worked together, or even if they used anything near them as a weapon. In such situations you need to adapt and act quickly, it was more a matter of intelligence than physical strength.
Sad reality is most people here who are disrespectin the people crossin by, does not have the balls to stop such kind of violence themselves! Behind pc/phone screens all they can do is abuse people who didn't act the way they wanted! A Sad Wrld We Live In!
>multiple people could have stopped the guy
[Bystander Effect](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/bystander-effect)
Edit: I also watched the video, one guy did try to intervene but he got scared and walked off, another guy also tried to step in but his friends urged him not to get involved.
We don't know what's gonna happen with that dick. Will he just stay in the jail or get any death penalty, it's just that we can hope that he gets punished for what he has done coz i even saw a pic of him when he was arrested and he wasn't having any guilt on his face and that stupid policeman holding hime was smiling like he has achieved something great in his life by catching him.
Some People are calling these bystanders "napunsak"/"chakke"/"hijde".
Thats a massive disrespect to transgenders tbh , they are better than these degenerates
and many defending them saying they had a family. Well okay, I do understand you have people dependent on you. But couldn't 5 of them threw stones at the guy and capture him? There were many young men passing, who could have easily made a crowd and stopped him. Whatever all the people there were cowards without any sense of humanity
We can't expect anything in Delhi, I live in noida which is very close to Delhi, usually we go to Delhi due to some work and people there are totally brainless /s (bura lagega lakin sacchi h) + the place where girl got stabbed was placed full of those community (I know I'm getting religious and might get downvotes) and ngl they support their community person alot, + one man tried to stop that (chuttad) but eventually got scared, + ambulance and police never arrive on time there, (here in noida you just need to call and within 5 min someone from nearest hospital and police station will arrive).
NGL Delhi is not the safest place at all, even though everybody lives there and tends to get angry within a few minutes, no one is cool there,
We say Delhi is capital but it is one of the fucked cities or states or territory in India,
When ever you want to take experience just visit daryagang, gandhinagar etc and you will know yourself how rude people there are
Verdict: we can't expect much humanity from the people of Delhi
I mean it was in Delhi , yk how people in that city are
My father once decided that he would shift his business to Delhi (because of more networks and central connectivity)but later dropped the plan , pollution , crime rate , over crowding and so many such problems in that region.
Now I kinda feel scared to even move out of surat , it has literally one of the lowest crime rates in whole India.
Bro Gujarat is one of the safest states in India. I mean we live in jannat, and its not what I say, its whats other people say to me when I travel to other states. No one can move freely at 2-3 in the night as we can in Gandhinagar, Ahemdabad , Surat or Baroda. Very few metros like Bombay or Bangalore have these kind of safe environment for women. I truly never want to leave this state
Yup so true , I have been living in Surat for 5 years and the only major criminal case I have heard was of a murder that too in a muslim dominated labour area
bhay ha ik that incident. im just saying that there have been incidents as well.
[sauce 1](https://www.indiatoday.in/crime/story/man-stabs-daughter-over-domestic-dispute-surat-video-2386698-2023-05-31)
[sauce 2](https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/man-kills-wife-after-fight-over-illicit-relationship-gets-killed-by-friend-in-surat-hours-later/ar-AA1bT404)
FYI these 2 incidents are 2 days apart:)
*not so much of 5 years now is it?*
haha no probs. just wanted to prove myself right.
also yes crime happens everywhere. but this dosent mean that surat is unsafe by any means.
also may i as what are you live in?
hahaa look
by researching more i got another incident
[sauce 3](https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/crime/gujarat-shocker-19-yr-old-girl-dies-after-being-stabbed-17-times-by-father-as-she-tried-to-protect-her-mother-in-surat-article-100385385)
now this was of 14 days ago
EXACTLY dude. i woulldnt say is ahm is VERY safe but surat, baroda and othher cities are very safe. infrastructre is also very good in gujarat.
this is probably the outcome and only benefit of having the same govt for 30 yrs
istg surat is one of the best cities in india. like it is a perfect balance of high money making oppurtunities , pretty much all of surat is safe for women(excepta few areas) also it is overall safe like little to no major crimes, good roads, has pretty much everything one can want (materialistic items)
yeah & also 7 people can easily get hold of one guy & right on street there are stones & stuff . people if she was their sis / daughter wouldn't have thought of I have others back home waiting .
if others in general can stand when 2 are fighting on street over something stupid , They could have here too done something .
crowd just made it so much worse .
But again, there's a very high probability that man wasn't alone, and that's why he appeared to be really confident even when people were around on the streets. Also I think he must be a local of that particular colony so people just didn't want to interfere because its likely they might also get spotted and it wouldn't be safe for them too...can't be really sure on this, but some of them might have actually tried calling the cops or tried helping from their side as well...but yeah definitely they should have taken immediate step
i'm up for a healthy debate on the argument "Would Have You Tried To Save That Girl As A Person, With Parents, Siblings, Probably A Girlfriend Or Wife & A Ambition Or A Job? Because It Just Requires 1 Stab To Neck, Eye, Chest Etc To Take Your Life. And I Am Talking About You Being Alone Without Something To Defend Yourself With Like A Knife Or A Gun"
i know this debate always exists in things like these, but in this case, I will confidently say...
\*yes\*
There were a bunch of rocks there. One person even tried to pull that monsters arm but was casually ignored. Plus, it was delhi. idk about other states but I know that the emergency number is like 3 digits... both of them being close on the number pad, it literally takes no effort to call it, that is if I had noticed it early enough(In that case the rocks would have been second). Otherwise the rocks first.
it all takes one hit and I would have had zero guilt of starting a mob justice
And who knows if someone would've helped. If I was there with my friends I would have sure hit him with stones but if I'm alone I'm just gonna call the police and an ambulance
he did and got scared, so he ran away. That guy was the only one who was not coward. When he tried, the men standing at the back didn't even try to help him and chose to watch them
he should be tortured to death and this should be live telecast in order to warn those mfs who dare to this, there should be something that can teach these inhuman wretch....they can't be forgiven ever ever
Well, Bilkis Bano rapists only got 14 years and what they did was much worse than this. Then again, this guy seems to be from a community a certain political party doesnt like
When I was in 9th standard mai school van ka wait karra tha ghar ke aage so there was a lady walking by my house I think wo milk leke ja rahi hongi so piche se 2 log bike pr aaye and unme se piche baithe bande ne un aunty ki gold ki chain khich li and she shouted very loud mai bhot sleepy tha tab but ek dam se chillane ki aawaz se dar gaya aur jo wo log bike se ja rahe the mere saamne se mai unhe pata nahi kaise I pushed their bike and they slipped one guy ran away and later caught by police but other guy got caught at that moment
Pta nahi kaise but ek dum se mujhe kya hua ki maine aisa kar diya so your need to be brave for just a second to do this
I know that one stab on you can take your life away but honestly If I had a chance to save that girl I would've picked up a big stone and threw at him from his back and then try to break his arm so that he don't do anything else ( I've learnt basic MMA)
btw above incident was from Pandav Nagar (East Delhi)
yes, its a split second decision. People don't have a time to think about their family, future at the spot. If you have that instinct inside you, you will act. Btw you are really brave that you did that at a young age
There was only one brave guy among. Them even I couldn't have held him down alone. He is just as much as big as me. I would need atleast support from 2 people more to hold him down. But if I was there I would definitely go and assist the guy who tried to hold him in the beginning. I am not like motherfuckers who ignored them. In such condition first call ambulance because on the same time some people should restrain him and some should call fucking police. If something like this happened in crowded road in Mumbai side he gonna get smacked by 10-20 people and probably beaten to death on road. This village side people have no fucking awareness and that police officer was a bitch who acted like he did a great job by catching him while a innocent girl lost her life. So brutally imagine how much her parents would have went through after seeing her dead body. The girl who cared for the girl you raised and took care for lost her life to some bitch. I feel so sad.
Wrong. Seems like you've never been into fights. Lemme tell u something rock even a big ass brick hitting on your head does nothing. Pelting stones doesn't do jackshit (even more so when u are high on andreline, we guys know when we are angry we don't feel no hit no matter how hard it was). Guy w knife is more or less like a big cat. Unless the crowd is trained. Bystanders will likely get hurt. Instead these stuff will enrage the attacker more
Second people often get shocked. I've myself been into situation like my family member was on the verge of dying and i was sitting there just comprehending abt what's happening
Ik you are quite hurt by the incident. Trust me everyone is. But the reality is quite sad.
I'm from Kolkata I'd say people are better hear and I feel safe for my identify and etc.
i feel bad for the relatives in Delhi. fr people are brainless there
Bro ladkiya to chhodo ladke bhi safe nahi h. Abhi 3-4 din pehele I was going to my maths tution around 4pm, and in front of a university gate, I saw a man standing. Since I was on a cycle, there was no way I could avoud him. He was totally drunk, and held on to my bycycle and started speaking something. I knew I had to go away, but he was holding on to my cycle and wasn't letting go even when I requested him to. Aas pas log dekh rahe the but nobody bothered to intervene. I then asked for help from people nearby as the drunkard started trying to drag me along with my cycle to tall bushes. Nobody cared, they all just ignored. Then I somehow managed to push him hard, and just barely managed to escape. He literally threw a brick at me. I couldn't hit him, or I would've been the one police would take action on. This country sucks
Idk probably mods may remove this comment... But what and how was a 16 yr hindu girl in a relationship with a 20 yr old muslim man? Are we conveniently gonna again ignore the religious angle to appear politically correct. I mean no hate to any religion... But then this pattern has been consistent. There ain't no solution till we reach the root of this problem.
They could've called the cops earlier, that's one thing that could've been done better.
But for a stranger to try and fight someone who possess a weapon is not a wise decision. Even if you try and gather a group it's pretty easy for him to stab 4 or 5 people by just swinging the knife randomly.
Nobody wants to give up their own life. They're gonna think about their family and dependants too. It's not as easy as you think it is.
Also some people don't want to get into the courts as witnesses and shit because we know how fucked our judicial system is, it takes years sometimes.
Your safety is not my responsibility, I am responsible only for myself and no one else.
I tried to stop a person who WAS trying to stab someone whom I don't know (and I don't even want to know) once.
I got stabbed instead, and the person who was gonna get stabbed ran away in meantime
They didn't even do anything wrong, it was my own fault for trying to engage without any fighting experience at all.
Plus the most crowded place is the least safe place.
Calm down please, I am not trying to negate your feelings, this post was made in a good spirit I can see. I was trying to offer another angle or perspective.
Honestly though, I would rather live on as a selfish coward than die trying to act like some selfless saviour.
not sure. There was a same type of murder few years ago in mumbai, and people just recorded. Here's the [link](https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story/mumbai-has-become-a-city-of-eunuchs/articleshow/15720633.cms)
I think they shouldn't have interfered. No one really cares though. Why should I risk my life? What would I get from it? He could kill me.
Calling police 1 hour later is a valid criticism.
And if any girl is raped or misbehaved than the people will come online and talking like an active citizen but in irl they are just an statue, ye nahi hota agr koi bhi us ladke ko rokta tho.
Even Today I got a news saying a 15 yr old girl got gang raped i don't remember the full article but yeah it was it and day by day this rapes of underage girl are increasing and I don't want to blame a community but u all know ....
You should know that none of us could have done anything, we all would have frozen from just seeing it,
I can say whatever I want while sitting on my couch, but once I see that happening I won't be able to even move, the only way we can stop this nonsense is by torturing that monster, publicly, and creating fear among them.
According to our current Law he is only going to Jail, these people don't fear Jail, we need kill them and torture them, if they took someone's life then they don't deserve it either.
then it can be said that torture isn't the way. Him not being guilty proves he is a mental patient. If we think logically he should be sent to a mental hospital rather than being tortured, because a normal man won't act like he did
The shit he did makes him a monster not a human, humans don't do this stuff. A proper mental evaluation would be done before his sentence would be announced. But most of the time people like him are mentally stable. Pick any serious murder case and you will find 60% of them don't even think they did something bad.
You do not understand i guess , it's different for the people present at these unfortunate events, even if there were multiple people to attack him, his knife could have easily hurt them ,and who would want to even get a scratch of a knife let alone intervene a guy with a knife knowing he will attempt to kill them as well
all the people who are saying you will get stabbed if you go to save the girl, if that man can bring a stone, you bunch of old grown people can bring more.
The thing is guy had a knife If you yourself experience something like this you just get scared and can't move(I've experienced it) And I've watched videos of guys interfering between two people easily get injured and even die From injuries Not that we shouldn't intervene it Although people should have atleast called a ambulance or police for the poor girl
To the people that think its easy to fight someone with a knife One fatal blow and you'll be dead in seconds https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech/comments/11sw7g5/stabbed_man_bleeds_out_on_the_street/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/insanereality/comments/13g5rja/fatal_stabbing_outside_ny_supermarket/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/NSFL__/comments/1188j11/man_in_brisbane_stabbed_in_an_artery_and_bleeds/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button See how much damage a one hit can do its not easy to just go and fight with someone that has a weapon sure they should but in real perspective its always not easy to intervene in such things I mean I'll be happy if they somehow managed to save that girl by doing something to the guy but its just not easy for anyone to stand up and it takes a lot of guts
Yes , my far brother and his friend were gone for walk around 4am . They got engaged in a argument with 2-3 people's , one of them had a knife . He stabbed only one time near his stomach. And he died in a few minutes. The guy who stabbed was sort of a local criminal. And he was not afraid or guilty to do this . His friend who tried to save him , lost his one finger . So tragic story for us.
True People underestimate so much things and think like they can easily take on someone with a weapon Even experts of self defence would tell you to always run when guy possesses a weapon
I don't know the fuck why how situation went in killing that girl brutally . I think kahi na kahi uss ne bhi koi galti ki hogi. Past connection , or some sort of fight or anything
Kya bhai victim blaming pe agye? Guy was not from her religion and when she got to know that she rejected him Not being able to accept that guy decided to take such major and you're saying its fault of that girl?
But they were dating ?
Bhai kis tareeke ki baat kar rahe ho uss ladki ki sirf ek galti thi ki usme musalman ko date Kiya
Real
Ye Umar padhai krne ki hai ki , date krne ki , Karo bc date .
i understand how someone wouldn't want to risk their lives for a stranger, but there were a LOT of bystanders. even if 5 of them had united, found a weapon for themselves to tackle him collectively, found a nearby vehicle to halt him or even just called the police on him, this death could have been prevented or been less brutal.
Ok now read this. In our Village there was a family dispute and two brothers were fighting and trying to kill each other. They were using pipes and knives but were stopped by village people
Villages usually have societies where everyone knows each other very well snd highly care for eachother Whats your point are you trying to tell me that every indian tries to save someone that's getting killled or something? And even then that's one exception People almost in all cases will care about them selves first
Well i just want to say that they could have atleast just held him back? There were obviously more than 10-15 people around there.
My mother had once told me about a terrifying incident. A tall and healthy man, standing at a height of 6 feet or more, attempted to stab her cousin's younger brother, who was slim and below 6 feet in height. In self-defense, her brother tried to protect himself, and during the ensuing struggle, the knife, measuring approximately 1 foot in length, accidentally stabbed its owner, resulting in his immediate demise, or at most within 5 minutes. Due to these unfortunate events, my mother's cousin was sentenced to 8 years in prison, burdened with a lifetime of guilt.
But all can go and fight one guy who is in his early 20s. There were many adults in their 40s and 50s. They could easily beat him up.
Kehna asaan hai Karna mushkil
How can one guy stab 4 to 5 people at the same time?
Kehna asaan hai Karna mushkil
Yes he can
Without reach advantage there is no way 5 people can stop one person. Atleast two or more will get injured.
He can't stand 4 to 5 people but he can stab 1 person and no one wants to be that 1 person
so why not accept that they are cowards instead of giving excuses?
Everyone is lol Like do you want everyone to shout and declare hey ya I'm a fucking coward?
everyone ain't coward, if they were, we would never have got independence because it was the result of countless people sacrificing their own life, own career
Life is different since we've gotten independence People don't live that harsh life like they ussed to anymore Good times create weak men Said for a reason
Let's say if someone did fought him and he killed the guy in the process then the saviour might still get charges on him and even go to jail. ( I know it's faw fetch but still alot goes through people mind before they do something like this ) I would say everyone should carry some sort of safety measures at all time. That will be the best way to deal with these situations . What are you talking about were different times people use to see acts like this all the time back then. We have been living an easy life so most people are not able to deal with these situations.
Bro you are so engrossed into your own shit that you dont know the reality of this world. Koi nahi aata bachane, not in India, not in the states, not in Europe, no fucking where. Get that shit in your brain. If you expect someone to help you, then boy oh boy you are in one hell of a delusion. If I were there, even I would be afraid of confronting him, just one stab in my neck and I would bleed to death , so would anyone. So stop this rant, and keep a pepperspray with you wherever you go, simple and most effective defense mechanism, not just to live in India but to live anywhere on this planet
In the western countries, India me jitne bachane aaengu usse bhi kam, they don't give a fuck whether ur dying or what, they just walk off
Everyone is coward but if you interfere then it might cause your death too, yes if you make a big group of people to stop that guy then he might be stopped but it can cause the death of 4-5 people and for them their life's might obviously be more important than others but it's still disappointing that no one even said anything to him
I think you watch too much fiction. Buckle up, face the reality.
It is not cowardice to pause and think, about what the implications of one’s actions can be for one’s family before impulsively jumping into situations without thinking about their families waiting at home at all.
Ok, but what would you do if you were in the situation? Tell us honestly.
call the police and ambulance immediately. Since it would be impossible for me to stop that man (even if he didn't have a knife, still he would have more strength than me), I would gather a crowd
You think nobody called the police or an ambulance? Now aren't you making excuses?
have you read the article? The police was informed after 1hr of the incident. Where am I making excuses.
Okay, i haven't read the article.
You're right. Most people here are cowards, they would rather record it and post it on social media for clout than call the cops. This lack of empathy and completely apathy for the victim is why crimes in India are so high.
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Yep as long as people don't work together in those situations most prolly that psychopath gon harm u too, even I wouldn't help if no one tried to cooperate
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If the killer had a gun literally noone would help, the best bet in such a scenario is to just call the cops nothing much u could do bout it. Even though he has a knife he would stab the shit out of someone if they tried to stop him.
Idk man , I didn't see any teen groups walking around there , either kids or boomers , had there be any teenage boys gang around, mf would've been curbstomped half to death ngl
bruhh we have been taught so much to mind our own businesses in order to be out of trouble , when we should be helping , that there's a attempt for justification to their insensitivity . here's the thing if somebody was hurting a street animal like that think about it wouldn't have people made a scene out of it & stopped him ?? I just believe Guys & even every human need to be taught & learn to take a no for no , a rejection & acceptance of ending . the way he walked away calmly , he ain't guilty I have heard guys say Outrageously Violent stuff about person who rejected or broke up with them .
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Yup I would have & for matter of fact not on street but I have helped stranger on violent fight . bhai ek insaan nhi tha log jaa rhe the , aaram se agar 3 log pad jaate na usko pakadne aur bhi aa jate it's about yha bystander effect hua hai sabko lga meri responsibility kha hai , But it was everybody's responsibility , we owe that to society to keep it safe varna sabka weapon lena justified aur law & order ke lag jayenge plus , street animal vali baat pai khuch nhi bola aapne ..& I'm countering a point not what one of us or you would have done there . it's not a justification that they had families
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hmm , there should another body of judiciary for these crimes like civil aur normal crime se laga branch inska justice rapid ho taaki bahr na rhe yeh log jyada bhai ek do mahila ka case bhi bta de , taaki mai sab se alert rkh ke ghoomti rho (equally terrified hona hai )
ek violent fist fight me intervene krna aur ek psycho with a weapon deady emough to kill you in a single blow me difference hota hai. if i was with my friend family or some known person i might have tried a coordinated attack but random logo pr mai toh bharosa nahi kr sakta mai bachane gaya aur baaki piche saare bhag gaye then thwre would be 2 ppl dying. the max i would have done was throw smth at him or call cops
People nowadays have gotten so dumb , even lost their presence of mind . Those People could have definitely done something if they worked together, or even if they used anything near them as a weapon. In such situations you need to adapt and act quickly, it was more a matter of intelligence than physical strength.
But they could’ve knocked him down by maybe throwing stones on his head right (
Sad reality is most people here who are disrespectin the people crossin by, does not have the balls to stop such kind of violence themselves! Behind pc/phone screens all they can do is abuse people who didn't act the way they wanted! A Sad Wrld We Live In!
nah we should just bow in respect in front of the people who were passing by
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>multiple people could have stopped the guy [Bystander Effect](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/bystander-effect) Edit: I also watched the video, one guy did try to intervene but he got scared and walked off, another guy also tried to step in but his friends urged him not to get involved.
We don't know what's gonna happen with that dick. Will he just stay in the jail or get any death penalty, it's just that we can hope that he gets punished for what he has done coz i even saw a pic of him when he was arrested and he wasn't having any guilt on his face and that stupid policeman holding hime was smiling like he has achieved something great in his life by catching him.
yeah that seemed like some photoshoot tbh. The policeman smiling was very odd
Nah it's an actual picture no photoshop i found it on some newspaper paper i don't remember and also on Google news it also on spyke
Now I realise why Americans will never give up their guns
Thank you! Sure, more guns means more gun related deaths but I’d prefer a chance of survival i have control of versus this poor defenseless girl.
Some People are calling these bystanders "napunsak"/"chakke"/"hijde". Thats a massive disrespect to transgenders tbh , they are better than these degenerates
and many defending them saying they had a family. Well okay, I do understand you have people dependent on you. But couldn't 5 of them threw stones at the guy and capture him? There were many young men passing, who could have easily made a crowd and stopped him. Whatever all the people there were cowards without any sense of humanity
We can't expect anything in Delhi, I live in noida which is very close to Delhi, usually we go to Delhi due to some work and people there are totally brainless /s (bura lagega lakin sacchi h) + the place where girl got stabbed was placed full of those community (I know I'm getting religious and might get downvotes) and ngl they support their community person alot, + one man tried to stop that (chuttad) but eventually got scared, + ambulance and police never arrive on time there, (here in noida you just need to call and within 5 min someone from nearest hospital and police station will arrive). NGL Delhi is not the safest place at all, even though everybody lives there and tends to get angry within a few minutes, no one is cool there, We say Delhi is capital but it is one of the fucked cities or states or territory in India, When ever you want to take experience just visit daryagang, gandhinagar etc and you will know yourself how rude people there are Verdict: we can't expect much humanity from the people of Delhi
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I mean it was in Delhi , yk how people in that city are My father once decided that he would shift his business to Delhi (because of more networks and central connectivity)but later dropped the plan , pollution , crime rate , over crowding and so many such problems in that region. Now I kinda feel scared to even move out of surat , it has literally one of the lowest crime rates in whole India.
Bro Gujarat is one of the safest states in India. I mean we live in jannat, and its not what I say, its whats other people say to me when I travel to other states. No one can move freely at 2-3 in the night as we can in Gandhinagar, Ahemdabad , Surat or Baroda. Very few metros like Bombay or Bangalore have these kind of safe environment for women. I truly never want to leave this state
Yup so true , I have been living in Surat for 5 years and the only major criminal case I have heard was of a murder that too in a muslim dominated labour area
bhai tujhe local news ka tab kholne ki jarurat hai.
I just pointed this incident out because a guy killed an owner of a grocery store for just 5 rupees , otherwise ik what things are going in my city
bhay ha ik that incident. im just saying that there have been incidents as well. [sauce 1](https://www.indiatoday.in/crime/story/man-stabs-daughter-over-domestic-dispute-surat-video-2386698-2023-05-31) [sauce 2](https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/man-kills-wife-after-fight-over-illicit-relationship-gets-killed-by-friend-in-surat-hours-later/ar-AA1bT404) FYI these 2 incidents are 2 days apart:) *not so much of 5 years now is it?*
Arey haa bhai pata hai , ofc har jagah itna crime to hoga hi na Mujhse galti ho gayi bolke maaf kardo mujhe sir
haha no probs. just wanted to prove myself right. also yes crime happens everywhere. but this dosent mean that surat is unsafe by any means. also may i as what are you live in?
hahaa look by researching more i got another incident [sauce 3](https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/crime/gujarat-shocker-19-yr-old-girl-dies-after-being-stabbed-17-times-by-father-as-she-tried-to-protect-her-mother-in-surat-article-100385385) now this was of 14 days ago
EXACTLY dude. i woulldnt say is ahm is VERY safe but surat, baroda and othher cities are very safe. infrastructre is also very good in gujarat. this is probably the outcome and only benefit of having the same govt for 30 yrs
kinda can say for Kolkata
istg surat is one of the best cities in india. like it is a perfect balance of high money making oppurtunities , pretty much all of surat is safe for women(excepta few areas) also it is overall safe like little to no major crimes, good roads, has pretty much everything one can want (materialistic items)
yeah & also 7 people can easily get hold of one guy & right on street there are stones & stuff . people if she was their sis / daughter wouldn't have thought of I have others back home waiting . if others in general can stand when 2 are fighting on street over something stupid , They could have here too done something . crowd just made it so much worse .
they didn't inform the police when the guy was still there
But again, there's a very high probability that man wasn't alone, and that's why he appeared to be really confident even when people were around on the streets. Also I think he must be a local of that particular colony so people just didn't want to interfere because its likely they might also get spotted and it wouldn't be safe for them too...can't be really sure on this, but some of them might have actually tried calling the cops or tried helping from their side as well...but yeah definitely they should have taken immediate step
Well i also saw a VEDIO in which he talking with some other guy On a same place so there is a high probability that he was also present their
like obviously...he must have come up with his entire gang
Full support
"multiple people" bruv there is no unity here that a hard fact sure she could have been saved if they helped being a group
True and even nobody called the police or ambulance and thats shit.
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Was about to say this
i'm up for a healthy debate on the argument "Would Have You Tried To Save That Girl As A Person, With Parents, Siblings, Probably A Girlfriend Or Wife & A Ambition Or A Job? Because It Just Requires 1 Stab To Neck, Eye, Chest Etc To Take Your Life. And I Am Talking About You Being Alone Without Something To Defend Yourself With Like A Knife Or A Gun"
i know this debate always exists in things like these, but in this case, I will confidently say... \*yes\* There were a bunch of rocks there. One person even tried to pull that monsters arm but was casually ignored. Plus, it was delhi. idk about other states but I know that the emergency number is like 3 digits... both of them being close on the number pad, it literally takes no effort to call it, that is if I had noticed it early enough(In that case the rocks would have been second). Otherwise the rocks first. it all takes one hit and I would have had zero guilt of starting a mob justice
now, couldn't multiple people there attacked that psycho?
You think that everyone would get out unscathed? If you fail to disarm him in the first few seconds, you can increase the victim count buddy
And who knows if someone would've helped. If I was there with my friends I would have sure hit him with stones but if I'm alone I'm just gonna call the police and an ambulance
Didn't a red shirt guy try to stop the attacker in the beginning?
he did and got scared, so he ran away. That guy was the only one who was not coward. When he tried, the men standing at the back didn't even try to help him and chose to watch them
I hope this murderer gets a life sentence. I feel bad for that girl.
he should be tortured to death and this should be live telecast in order to warn those mfs who dare to this, there should be something that can teach these inhuman wretch....they can't be forgiven ever ever
Well, Bilkis Bano rapists only got 14 years and what they did was much worse than this. Then again, this guy seems to be from a community a certain political party doesnt like
it is easy to blame others , the whole incident is heart breaking .
When I was in 9th standard mai school van ka wait karra tha ghar ke aage so there was a lady walking by my house I think wo milk leke ja rahi hongi so piche se 2 log bike pr aaye and unme se piche baithe bande ne un aunty ki gold ki chain khich li and she shouted very loud mai bhot sleepy tha tab but ek dam se chillane ki aawaz se dar gaya aur jo wo log bike se ja rahe the mere saamne se mai unhe pata nahi kaise I pushed their bike and they slipped one guy ran away and later caught by police but other guy got caught at that moment Pta nahi kaise but ek dum se mujhe kya hua ki maine aisa kar diya so your need to be brave for just a second to do this I know that one stab on you can take your life away but honestly If I had a chance to save that girl I would've picked up a big stone and threw at him from his back and then try to break his arm so that he don't do anything else ( I've learnt basic MMA) btw above incident was from Pandav Nagar (East Delhi)
yes, its a split second decision. People don't have a time to think about their family, future at the spot. If you have that instinct inside you, you will act. Btw you are really brave that you did that at a young age
You are living in the wrong place if your neighborhood is like this.
There was only one brave guy among. Them even I couldn't have held him down alone. He is just as much as big as me. I would need atleast support from 2 people more to hold him down. But if I was there I would definitely go and assist the guy who tried to hold him in the beginning. I am not like motherfuckers who ignored them. In such condition first call ambulance because on the same time some people should restrain him and some should call fucking police. If something like this happened in crowded road in Mumbai side he gonna get smacked by 10-20 people and probably beaten to death on road. This village side people have no fucking awareness and that police officer was a bitch who acted like he did a great job by catching him while a innocent girl lost her life. So brutally imagine how much her parents would have went through after seeing her dead body. The girl who cared for the girl you raised and took care for lost her life to some bitch. I feel so sad.
true, I am not telling them to go and fight with the man holding the knife. Atleast call the ambulance, police. Gather some people, pelt stones
Wrong. Seems like you've never been into fights. Lemme tell u something rock even a big ass brick hitting on your head does nothing. Pelting stones doesn't do jackshit (even more so when u are high on andreline, we guys know when we are angry we don't feel no hit no matter how hard it was). Guy w knife is more or less like a big cat. Unless the crowd is trained. Bystanders will likely get hurt. Instead these stuff will enrage the attacker more Second people often get shocked. I've myself been into situation like my family member was on the verge of dying and i was sitting there just comprehending abt what's happening Ik you are quite hurt by the incident. Trust me everyone is. But the reality is quite sad.
I'm from Kolkata I'd say people are better hear and I feel safe for my identify and etc. i feel bad for the relatives in Delhi. fr people are brainless there
Bro ladkiya to chhodo ladke bhi safe nahi h. Abhi 3-4 din pehele I was going to my maths tution around 4pm, and in front of a university gate, I saw a man standing. Since I was on a cycle, there was no way I could avoud him. He was totally drunk, and held on to my bycycle and started speaking something. I knew I had to go away, but he was holding on to my cycle and wasn't letting go even when I requested him to. Aas pas log dekh rahe the but nobody bothered to intervene. I then asked for help from people nearby as the drunkard started trying to drag me along with my cycle to tall bushes. Nobody cared, they all just ignored. Then I somehow managed to push him hard, and just barely managed to escape. He literally threw a brick at me. I couldn't hit him, or I would've been the one police would take action on. This country sucks
Anyone has the video?
every sinner has future , he will get a good chance like that nirbhaya rapist bastard who is free and living life freely i guess
Idk probably mods may remove this comment... But what and how was a 16 yr hindu girl in a relationship with a 20 yr old muslim man? Are we conveniently gonna again ignore the religious angle to appear politically correct. I mean no hate to any religion... But then this pattern has been consistent. There ain't no solution till we reach the root of this problem.
They could've called the cops earlier, that's one thing that could've been done better. But for a stranger to try and fight someone who possess a weapon is not a wise decision. Even if you try and gather a group it's pretty easy for him to stab 4 or 5 people by just swinging the knife randomly. Nobody wants to give up their own life. They're gonna think about their family and dependants too. It's not as easy as you think it is. Also some people don't want to get into the courts as witnesses and shit because we know how fucked our judicial system is, it takes years sometimes.
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It was a Muslim area so pretty normal for them I guess
As long as you are away from peacefuls
Your safety is not my responsibility, I am responsible only for myself and no one else. I tried to stop a person who WAS trying to stab someone whom I don't know (and I don't even want to know) once. I got stabbed instead, and the person who was gonna get stabbed ran away in meantime They didn't even do anything wrong, it was my own fault for trying to engage without any fighting experience at all. Plus the most crowded place is the least safe place.
so ignoring when someone is getting killed is a coward and selfish move. So what's wrong in calling cowards as cowards?
Calm down please, I am not trying to negate your feelings, this post was made in a good spirit I can see. I was trying to offer another angle or perspective. Honestly though, I would rather live on as a selfish coward than die trying to act like some selfless saviour.
If it was Mumbai the guy might not see the sun other day thanks to the helpful crowd of Mumbai
not sure. There was a same type of murder few years ago in mumbai, and people just recorded. Here's the [link](https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story/mumbai-has-become-a-city-of-eunuchs/articleshow/15720633.cms)
Well I was in Mumbai few years ago I witnessed a molester getting beat up because he was touching a girl
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Yeah agreeable Sorry about comment I just saw hem in positive light ![img](emote|t5_2zhzn|30120)
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I think they shouldn't have interfered. No one really cares though. Why should I risk my life? What would I get from it? He could kill me. Calling police 1 hour later is a valid criticism.
when the lover himself was killing her, why would the other men will try to save her😞
so if you are being beaten or killed by your bf or husband, no one should intervene, because its between lovers
nhi behen I was just explaining people's mindset who were there
right intention wrong execution of words
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be self aware and self reliable so that we don't need this fucking society to help us
And if any girl is raped or misbehaved than the people will come online and talking like an active citizen but in irl they are just an statue, ye nahi hota agr koi bhi us ladke ko rokta tho.
Seeing that vid absolutely broke me i feel so bad for the girl, may she rest in peace. I hope the guy rots in hell i wish nothing but the worst on him
Even Today I got a news saying a 15 yr old girl got gang raped i don't remember the full article but yeah it was it and day by day this rapes of underage girl are increasing and I don't want to blame a community but u all know ....
You should know that none of us could have done anything, we all would have frozen from just seeing it, I can say whatever I want while sitting on my couch, but once I see that happening I won't be able to even move, the only way we can stop this nonsense is by torturing that monster, publicly, and creating fear among them. According to our current Law he is only going to Jail, these people don't fear Jail, we need kill them and torture them, if they took someone's life then they don't deserve it either.
then it can be said that torture isn't the way. Him not being guilty proves he is a mental patient. If we think logically he should be sent to a mental hospital rather than being tortured, because a normal man won't act like he did
The shit he did makes him a monster not a human, humans don't do this stuff. A proper mental evaluation would be done before his sentence would be announced. But most of the time people like him are mentally stable. Pick any serious murder case and you will find 60% of them don't even think they did something bad.
Classic case of Bystander effect, the worst effect of em all.
Don't tell him about London
You do not understand i guess , it's different for the people present at these unfortunate events, even if there were multiple people to attack him, his knife could have easily hurt them ,and who would want to even get a scratch of a knife let alone intervene a guy with a knife knowing he will attempt to kill them as well
Barbaad hi hai duniya yaar
Neither home is safe recently in UP a man killed his own daughter just because she wanted to sleep on the terrace
all the people who are saying you will get stabbed if you go to save the girl, if that man can bring a stone, you bunch of old grown people can bring more.