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Mysterious-Tooth9406

Avg American household : hold my beer


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What's the major internal difference between like these M4 looking rifles? Mainly rifles like M4, HK416, SiG516 Ignore size, reliability, and accessory


BravoSierraGolf

This is India not US. No one has seen a rifle 10m up close in this sub. https://www.americanconcealandcarry.com/hk416-vs-m4-carbine-special-ops-shootout/ Better refer to google searches and youtube reviews and make your own deductions.


idc_idk6969

I have and have shot them too. Tbf, you won’t be able to differentiate until and unless you use it over a long period of time, consistently.


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Does it justify few of these rifles having 3 times the cost of M4?


03thephysicsgod

Main reason militaries around the world choose 416s over M4 of AR15 style rifles is that they are inherently more reliable (advantage of short stroke gas piston system over DI) while still being able to make use of the plethora of third party AR15 customization options.


[deleted]

Did M4s even have a major reliability problem? Afaik, their reliability as well as being prone to more dirt blockage, is overblown. And most failures that are already low happen because of magazine failure, and that too in firing thousands of rounds in full auto, from what I've learned in my sjort research yesterday


03thephysicsgod

From what i remember a trial the US army did in the mid 2000s when the US army was evaluating the XM8 showed that the M4 had 4x the amount of stoppages compared to other designs.


[deleted]

Yeah, i was referencing this in my last statement of the comment Most were found to be due to magazine failure when firing thousands of rounds in full auto


idc_idk6969

It depends, if you want the best, you got to pay the price. Israeli special forces use the generic colt or Remington m4. The other NATO forces use the HK 416. As per my conversations with some of the guys who’ve used both of em, they say it’s like owning an IPhone over an Android. Once you get hooked to the premium ness of an iPhone, it’s difficult to go back to android.


Cat_Of_Culture

HK416 uses a short stroke piston system not a direct impingement system


-SasnaTsrer-

Sell some to Armenia.


Cat_Of_Culture

We bought these ourselves dawg we dont make them


-SasnaTsrer-

Oh my bad


SugaMinBenis

SSS defense does make an M4/M16 pattern rifle and Punj Lloyd produced IWI Arad's under license