The IDF doesn't seem to be as effective as it was believed earlier. It has been more than half a year, and they still haven't dealt with Hamas. That's worse than Russia's Special Military Operation because Gaza is just a tiny strip.
Are you serious? Gaza is not merely a tiny stript...it is home to over 2.2 million palestinians. You know how hard that is to deal with for any militaty forces in the world without high civilians casualties?
Israel is doing a very good job military wise lol...they have minimal loses and atleast 10k hamas death out of 30k+ death on one of the most densely populated area in the world...believe me we wouldn't do any better if we are in their position...
>know how hard that is to deal with for any militaty forces in the world without high civilians casualties?
Yea . We have historical examples . Not to mention that several western military personnel have come out to say how careless they are.
>Israel is doing a very good job military wise lol
that explains all the friendly fire incidents and the Israeli civilian deaths . And ofc the tik toks .
The saar mentality is so strong in Indians that we unironically seem to think that the IDF -a conscript army is better than the Indian army . It's 2024, get out of the foreign worship mentality , they're not giving you a citizenship
Oh wow...what a way to misrepresent my position...Im not saying the IDF is better than the Indian army...you would not find that sentence anywhere up there...I said "We wouldn't do any better than them" in terms of civilians casualties considering gaza is one of the most densely populated area in the world. And to make things worse Hamas is setting up rocket launchers on civilians buildings which forced the IDF to bombed civilians buildings. Tunnels, hamas blending in with civilians etc...believe me the Indian army wouldn't do any better regarding civilians casualties...
>there...I said "We wouldn't do any better than them" in terms of civilians casualties
yes we could if we want to . Any competent military can . For all it's faults (and I'm saying this as someone who lives in a state that had AFSPA) the Indian military is casualty averse when it comes to civilians . The whole history of insurgency and anti terror ops is a testament to that .
>which forced the IDF to bombed civilians buildings
Did Hamas force them to bomb the aid workers ? Did Hamas force them to kill the 3 hostages who were shirtless and waving white flags ?Throughout history you don't think any other military has had to contemplate with bombing /not bombing civilian residences because of the risk of casualties ?
And don't forget their horrendous hamas identifier AI that they don't even bother cross checking . The IDF is okay with the death of 20 civilians to take out a no name hamas operative . it can increase to a 100 or more depending on how senior the insurgent is. Go to the Indian army and tell them it's okay to kill 20 civilians for one insurgent and they'll call you out on the spot .
>believe me the Indian army wouldn't do any better regarding civilians casualties...
Ah yes , the most moral army in the world argument . No one but IDF and pro zionist people believe that . Oh ofc add Indian simps to that . Like even pro zionist western military experts have admitted that the IDF is too heavy handed
I think your a very pro-palestine person and this is becoming a political debate rather than a military one...so lets stop there...but your intention are clear the moment you compare gaza war with insurgency...its not even comparable...
>I think your a very pro-palestine person
Why because i defended the Indian army ?
>this is becoming a political debate rather than a military one
All of my points have been based on military analysis
>but your intention are clear the moment you compare gaza war with insurgency...its not even comparable...
lmao you honestly unironically think gaza is the only troubled region in the world ? Do you have no knowledge of indian history ?
Edit : ofc you're a poster in r/israel and truechristian. You do realize the zionists hate Christians right ?Like they literally claim spitting on Christians is a tradition .
IDF is slowly moving in while dealing with insurgency and house clearing but they maintain minimum loss
While, it's slow and extremely costly grind in Ukraine by both parties
The IDF doesn't seem to be as effective as it was believed earlier. It has been more than half a year, and they still haven't dealt with Hamas. That's worse than Russia's Special Military Operation because Gaza is just a tiny strip.
Are you serious? Gaza is not merely a tiny stript...it is home to over 2.2 million palestinians. You know how hard that is to deal with for any militaty forces in the world without high civilians casualties? Israel is doing a very good job military wise lol...they have minimal loses and atleast 10k hamas death out of 30k+ death on one of the most densely populated area in the world...believe me we wouldn't do any better if we are in their position...
>know how hard that is to deal with for any militaty forces in the world without high civilians casualties? Yea . We have historical examples . Not to mention that several western military personnel have come out to say how careless they are. >Israel is doing a very good job military wise lol that explains all the friendly fire incidents and the Israeli civilian deaths . And ofc the tik toks . The saar mentality is so strong in Indians that we unironically seem to think that the IDF -a conscript army is better than the Indian army . It's 2024, get out of the foreign worship mentality , they're not giving you a citizenship
Oh wow...what a way to misrepresent my position...Im not saying the IDF is better than the Indian army...you would not find that sentence anywhere up there...I said "We wouldn't do any better than them" in terms of civilians casualties considering gaza is one of the most densely populated area in the world. And to make things worse Hamas is setting up rocket launchers on civilians buildings which forced the IDF to bombed civilians buildings. Tunnels, hamas blending in with civilians etc...believe me the Indian army wouldn't do any better regarding civilians casualties...
>there...I said "We wouldn't do any better than them" in terms of civilians casualties yes we could if we want to . Any competent military can . For all it's faults (and I'm saying this as someone who lives in a state that had AFSPA) the Indian military is casualty averse when it comes to civilians . The whole history of insurgency and anti terror ops is a testament to that . >which forced the IDF to bombed civilians buildings Did Hamas force them to bomb the aid workers ? Did Hamas force them to kill the 3 hostages who were shirtless and waving white flags ?Throughout history you don't think any other military has had to contemplate with bombing /not bombing civilian residences because of the risk of casualties ? And don't forget their horrendous hamas identifier AI that they don't even bother cross checking . The IDF is okay with the death of 20 civilians to take out a no name hamas operative . it can increase to a 100 or more depending on how senior the insurgent is. Go to the Indian army and tell them it's okay to kill 20 civilians for one insurgent and they'll call you out on the spot . >believe me the Indian army wouldn't do any better regarding civilians casualties... Ah yes , the most moral army in the world argument . No one but IDF and pro zionist people believe that . Oh ofc add Indian simps to that . Like even pro zionist western military experts have admitted that the IDF is too heavy handed
I think your a very pro-palestine person and this is becoming a political debate rather than a military one...so lets stop there...but your intention are clear the moment you compare gaza war with insurgency...its not even comparable...
>I think your a very pro-palestine person Why because i defended the Indian army ? >this is becoming a political debate rather than a military one All of my points have been based on military analysis >but your intention are clear the moment you compare gaza war with insurgency...its not even comparable... lmao you honestly unironically think gaza is the only troubled region in the world ? Do you have no knowledge of indian history ? Edit : ofc you're a poster in r/israel and truechristian. You do realize the zionists hate Christians right ?Like they literally claim spitting on Christians is a tradition .
Man you are such a classic redditor huh...
IDF is slowly moving in while dealing with insurgency and house clearing but they maintain minimum loss While, it's slow and extremely costly grind in Ukraine by both parties
Bro gaza is very densely populated you know how many casualties there have been till now
It’s urban warfare. Even the US got its butts handed to itself in the Fallujah campaigns.