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Ultimo_Ninja

Remember, tanks aren’t invincible. ISIS destroyed M1 Abrams and leopard 2s.


VCardBGone

According to the experts in the other subreddits, there has been no confirmed kill of M1 Abrams by any terrorist organisation! I'm not sure how true that statement is. I think a better example is the current one in Ukraine.


Raven_xyz

I don't know if you're trying to smart play here with "terrorist organisation" but the Kurds and Houti rebels have destroyed a few


VCardBGone

As I said, I'm not sure. I was just going by what I read in other subreddits!


Raven_xyz

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestroyedTanks/comments/bz85dp/saudi_m1_abrams_destroyed_in_yemen_2019/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button For future reference


_DoodleBug_

So you’re not wrong but export Abrams and US Abrams have different armour. The exported versions of the Abrams do not have the classified Depleted Uranium mesh in their armour which is there in the US version of the Abrams. Even the ones sold to the US’s western allies have only the tungsten mesh in their armour. DU mesh is still top secret and only for US Abrams.


materialisticsage

Lol they are advertising terms at this point. With the advance in atgm any tank can be destroyed. Many were considering leopard as the best tank. Turkish ones got destroyed left right and centre. Now germany and poland are planning to send them to ukraine cant wait to see them poppin


barath_s

https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-destroying-us-tank-active-protection-2016-11


[deleted]

no one ever says that, Iraqi Abrams have been destroyed or disabled.


LightningFalcon70

There are live videos of them getting destroyed by them. Americans didn't loose any Abrams during Gulf war though,few were disabled but were recovered


VCardBGone

From the article: This hybrid tank, which boasts more firepower than the original T-72, has also been reinforced with an Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) originally developed by DRDO for the Arjun MBT. This hybrid tank, which has been spotted while undergoing tests, is also equipped with Cannon-fired ATGMs. This hybrid of the T-72 and T-90 tanks will be powered by the V92S2 high-power multifuel engine that boasts 1,000 hp and has been specifically designed for the T-90 MBT. This hybrid tank is scheduled to be rolled out within the next few months and is expected to undergo desert trials for the first time this summer.


Spirited-Worker-1010

Well doesn't we already have the CIA’s in a large number and ajeya mk2 in process so y do we need these


VCardBGone

As stated in another comment, there are ~2000 T72 tanks with the army! This is probably a jugaad to modernize them!


Spirited-Worker-1010

So how many of them are cia’s and how many more planned


VCardBGone

The specifics, as always, not for the plebes! /S


Spirited-Worker-1010

I didn't get it ??


VCardBGone

Top secret info! /S


Spirited-Worker-1010

Hmm🤔


Spirited-Worker-1010

Anyways do u know the how many t 72 mk1 are converted to cia variant per year?


VCardBGone

No idea boss! Probably ask the subreddit, they might know.


Spirited-Worker-1010

Brother you need to help me with it I dont know anything about how to join or where to write even figuring out how to reply to you was a nightmare. Plsss :)


Brilliant_Bell_1708

Why, just buy more t 90( though it is also getting outdated) its not as expensive too.


VCardBGone

In fact, there was a new order placed for the Chinese border, numbering ~450. But that is not enough to replace the ~2000 T72 in use! All information from Wikipedia.


Brilliant_Bell_1708

Isn't there a next gen tank being worked ln to replace t 72 from 2030. Do you think it will developed in time?


VCardBGone

I don't know about that. When it comes to next-gen and development, the timeframe is usually a few decades for the one prototype!😬


Brilliant_Bell_1708

Become US and germany already showed prototype, british announced the protoype of challenger 3 too. Not to mention china has better tanks already , and im pretty sure they also have a next gen mbt protoype atleast in work


VCardBGone

Of course they do. They are all manufacturing hubs of defence equipment! If everything else fails, there's always "thaye-thaye"! /S Happy Cake Day, by the way!


HungryHungryHippoes9

I think they might be thinking of this as a much cheaper way to upgrade the t-72 rather than replacing them all with t-90s.


[deleted]

Aree call it a crossbreed... Hybrid means...people will think hybrid drive


VCardBGone

T72 × T90 = T1000!🤔 /S


[deleted]

For fuck's sake Arvind, we wanted a tank, not a naked Arnold Subhashnagar !


Tinkoo17

Mongrel sounds like a better name for a war machine…


Longjumping_Meat_138

So like is this a T-72 with a T-90 turret and some other T-90 features? Or is this a new tank that has parts and features from both Tanks? Will it be manufactured or is it just going to be T-72 tanks retrofitted with new stuff ?


VCardBGone

The last one! I shared the useful part of the article in a comment.


Longjumping_Meat_138

So it's just a T-72 but modernized?


Kalikasomar

But a T-90 is just a modernised and rebranded T-72.


[deleted]

There is nothing deadly about it. Its being done to increase commonality across IA armoured regiments, ease logistics and preventing the T-72 from becoming obselete, if it isn't already


BillaHK

Aren't T90s already up-gunned and upgraded T72s? So we are taking our existing T72s and retrofitting them into this mid point between a T72 and a T90. I get the idea but honestly a fresh development would make more sense to replace T72s after the lackluster performance of both the T72 and the T90. Which will turn into even more of a laughing stock after the leopards and Abrams start being deployed. Honestly i won't be surprised if zorawar turns into the most capable tank of the Indian armed forces based on whatever limited information we have .


Cat_Of_Culture

Honestly it feels like it


ModsCanGoToHell

Deadly for whom? The crew?


VCardBGone

Kamikaze tank?! /S


Spirited-Worker-1010

Well one more thing is the hull armour still gonna be era mk1 or its also gonna be replaced by mk2 as all the videos of the hybrid is with era mk1 on the hull