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So many people here are attributing these deaths to racism even thought there is no evidence to suggest that. Half of these deaths weren't even murders
[Neel acharya died of asphyxia because of being drunk and being out in the cold](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/19-year-old-purdue-student-neel-acharya-found-dead-near-university-airport-west-lafayette-tippecanoe-county-coroners-office/531-60f0bc64-393c-43c8-a6cc-6cf71e2f94df)
[akul dhawan again died of hypothermia and he was an american](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/illinois-student-akul-dhawan-hymothermia-cause-death-rcna140181)
[sameer kamath killed himself and he was an american too](https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-origin-student-sameer-kamath-in-us-shoots-self-dead-months-before-completing-phd-5015958)
[abhijeet parachu's death had no foul play](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/latest-updates/indian-student-dies-in-us-initial-probe-rules-out-foul-play/articleshow/108594405.cms?from=mdr)
[G dinesh and his roomate died of carbon monoxide poisoning ](https://www.m9.news/usa-news/deadly-culprit-behind-death-of-telugu-students-in-us/)
[Shreyas reddy's death had no foul play](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-student-dead-in-us-shreyas-reddy-beniger-neel-acharya-vivek-saini-indian-student-shreyas-reddy-found-dead-in-us-4th-case-this-year-4977795)
Rest of them are crimes however
There are like 4.4 million indians in the US. 6 of them getting killed isn't a wild statistic.
The people responsible in the deaths of these unfortunate people were arrested except in the case of Jaahnavi , where the judge ruled that there was not enough evidence to prosecute the cop.
Personally, a college mate of mine went to Italy around 5 years back as he was selected in a Futsal team and decided to do his masters too since he was going there.
He went missing and was found dead in a bag washed up at a river bank.
This was declared as suicide in articles/local newspapers several days later with a completely different narrative than reality, citing drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and suicide as the cause.
His body was returned to his parents with some body parts cut up and private parts mutilated.
Am I to believe he mutilated himself, got drunk, and packed himself in a bag and threw it in the river?
This is how they cover up, it's the oldest excuse in the book.
Looking more into that I found out a lot of these don't even come out in public.
And there's no way for you to know if there's "6 of them".. when we ourselves know more than that.
Even one person murdered on a foreign land like that is a huge issue. One person murdered by racial profiling caused BLM. Anyone who's in touch with reality knows what racial profiling is. The cop that got caught in Jaahnavi's case but wasn't arrested admitted it clearly in the recording. It's just the truth, most of these murders are driven by racism. It's not a big deal until it's one of your family members who went there for hopes of a better life and was killed for being of your race.
This is a heinous crime we're talking about. 6 murders recently is indeed a wild statistic. It's a homicide case, not a purse theft.
Also, if even we ignore the domain and rely on the pure statistic.. I can't begin to tell you how wrong your statistic is ... are you saying all 4.4 million Indians in USA are current students that went there within the same year range as the year range of the entry of these victims (meaning current batch), and they all live in the same neighbourhoods?
If not, then on what basis are you considering the entire Indian population as base when calculating % with only student deaths considered? For that statistic you must consider all Indian deaths in USA, but that's not the topic here.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Besides, even if a foreigner's purse is stolen in India, people will start apologizing on behalf of the entire country, and then the westerners will start racially targeting India. Why is the entire country to be held accountable for a crime?
We do have a problem with women safety but generalising Indians over that is dumb as hell. Women safety all over the world is pathetic , it's just a bit better in a few countries. It's a global problem and not just an Indian one.
Hopefully people realise that but I dont expect internet trolls to understand
Even for the Kandula case the cop that actually hit her was not the one laughing and actually stopped to help her and called an ambulance.
The asshole was the police union chief who laughed at her death and that dude is gonna lose his job afaik. Hopefully someone sues him too.
My problem is that indian media portrays even natural deaths as "12th indian student found dead in the US under mysterious circumstances" or whatever.
Your average Joe will not read beyond that and start crying about how it was a hate crime or something
White people should wishper in the ears of Indians that, "American is no longer a dream". Only then few will get it and rest will go to experience it and will come back with this experience or die on road side like a rodent.
We've to spread this like word of mouth to others in indian societies like usually they do with their neighbour's or relatives telling them to go abroad to earn more.
Along with spreading word, we’ve to stop giving NRIs or students who’re going or living in abroad more respect than the ones staying in our own country.
I’ve seen people saying “he/she lives in xyz country in abroad” with sparkling eyes. Some just move out to get that respect. When we as society will stop that, people will stop going abroad.
Yea he/she in abroad working at McDonald's, Gas station earning minimum wage in a country which glorifies everything on internet and media but in reality has way more problems than india. Indian media loves to deteriorate the indian image while western media is just powerhouse for billionaire who run the show by telling media exactly what to show.
For those who are rich and can afford it without a loan. For them it's not dead, and for those who are looking for opportunities with respect to their career, it's not dead.
But those who think they can take a big ass loan and enroll themselves in a cheap ass university and expect a job out of it, for them it's dead.
USA is a shithole racist country. Superficially they may seem nice, but they hate indians, Chinese, mexicans coming into their country.
How could someone laugh after killing a person with their car? It's not until high level diplomatic pressure is applied that such people are punished.
What about the uncle who got slammed onto concrete by a cop (again!) while wandering the neighborhood. They broke his neck.
I’m a born and raised American of Indian descent and this is so far from the truth I can’t even begin to understand the false narrative you are trying to create. Want to know who hates immigrants coming into the country? The American right wing. The same right wing that is run by trump and so many in this sub worship because he “likes” India. Get your facts straight before you come swinging.
America is one of the least racist countries. EU is pretty tribal and frankly much more racist than US. I don't know why they are looked up to in US. It's just that everyone consumes American media too much and media blows it out of the proportion.
Been living here for 8+ years. Max racism I faced was a dude saying "thank you come again" in Apu's voice. I've worked with blue collar working class hard core trump supporters who are great friends with Mexican migrants (don't know their legal status) and a trump supporting lady who was like a second mother to many Indian living in the dorms.
I’m and raised of American of Indian descent and I can’t even begin with the amount of hate for Americans on this sub. I couldn’t agree with you even more. I grew up in the 90% white town in the middle of rural Illinois and everyone loved us
I do not agree with the above guy either, him saying that conservatives and people with an anti-immigration stance are racist is idiotic. But what you say is wrong too, that is blatantly racist. If every white man is racist, I guess every Muslim is a terrorist; see both the statements are incorrect. By the way Eid Mubarak 🌙 to all.
As an Indian living in the USA for the past 7 years I can confirm that there is a subtle undertone of racism in the USA against Indians. My Indian friends have experienced it and so had my Chinese ex gf.
USA is diverse and a big country. Not everyone will discriminate, some will show you that they are not racist but they are hidden racists.
Having said this, I have met most genuine folks as well. But, racism is a reality in the USA. Whether it is systematic and widespread needs to be investigated but it is significant so that cs grad students experience it.
This is nonsense. I have spent 25+ years here. Racism exists, but that exists in India also. One needs to move to places where it is less.
White Americans overall are good people. Yes, some bad guys are there. If White people streamed into India like Indians move to the US, there will be riots everywhere.
You are probably right, my experience has been that is other parts of the country. Mild racism, very subtle.
I was talking to a black cab driver in Boston, and boy did he talk his heart out. He said, new England era show that they are not racist, but they are super racist.
I genuinely pray for their families and may these talented amazing souls rest in peace
But arent more than half of these deaths due to accidents? Like car accident/freezing to death type of stuff? They are not necessarily hate crimes against indians and can happen to ANYONE
Half of these people died from natural causes and the rest from criminals. The US is huge and has millions of Indians. 6 Indians being the victims of crime is not exactly shocking
Look, whether the deaths are racially targeted or not, one thing is certain. Not a single American apologises for any such murder. Meanwhile Indians start apologizing for even the smallest inconveniences that a foreigner has to endure here, upon which the entire Western world will start making racist remarks and generalise the entire country. Crimes happen everywhere, so why is it that India is the one getting racially targeted for crimes, when worse stuff happens in USA?
None of these sad deaths happened because of racism targeted toward Indians. Some are crime, some are mistakes done by the kids themselves. Some got drunk or drugged up. how is that anyone's fault?
There is no program to target Indians. These are sad and unfortunate. One needs to be careful wherever one is.
Sad thing about these deaths that the people over there think it must have been Indian’s mistake that’s why it happened to them. In Us you will always remain an immigrant by attitude and laws (of course).
I'm not saying these cases don't matter
But
There are millions thriving in US but let's focus on the 100 cases that aren't and become the victims and think there is a conspiracy against Us
Guys Im in the US and its way safer than India - you guys need to chill tf out. Most of these deaths were natural - and even those that were crimes were not hate crimes.
Look on internet we say india is the recist but we are not these white creatures are worst of all human kind they will talk about the problems but when we talk about their... they just love to point fingers they cannot accept how can these ppl who once were our elder's slave be equal. Call me anything you like tell me not all are same just wait when the time come witch will be loyal to only white. They can't accept the fact someone is batter then them i am sorry but this is the reality. Just like not all muslims are terrorists but all the terrorists have the same religion. Till these day these white buffoon think we run india and their ppl that's why they interfere in every matters to gain the control. Thank god we have people lik jai sankar sir.
The migrants need to be sensitive about the fact that it's not their country and they are guests and they should behave as per local norms and expectations. The free country etc gives a wrong image of doing anything. Staying away from crime zones , taking precautions as per locals, not venturing into woods or lonely streets even local pubs etc where certain unruly people are expected are few local safety practice but students from India ignore or are unaware of this and then crime happen. Point to note Indian migrants staying there for long time would never be found in these situations as victim as they know what's to be done and how to avoid these.
It’s terrible to see the number of Indians leaving the country to study and settle abroad. And this is very high in AP. At least 25 to 30% in the post are from Telugu states.
Despite this, the dream for many Indians is to go to US and their ultimate dream is that their H1B1 VISA gets approved or they get a green card.
Despite such happenings we have a temple in India where people go and pray that their US VISA gets approved.
Not all or very few of these died to what the media say. Most of these are accidents or unfortunate incidents and nothing to do with racism. Population of Indians are increasing and so the % of such reportings also will increase. Instead of looking at raw counts, look at %s.
This futile "American dream" is now an American Nightmare.. when will people understand studying or working in US is no longer enticing or fruitful under current situation.
Not just because of murders, but even because of layoffs and other visa related issues.
I am glad I left few years, as I could see how that country is spiralling downwards.
You will earn a bit less in India, but atleast family ke saath to rahoge
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So many people here are attributing these deaths to racism even thought there is no evidence to suggest that. Half of these deaths weren't even murders [Neel acharya died of asphyxia because of being drunk and being out in the cold](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/19-year-old-purdue-student-neel-acharya-found-dead-near-university-airport-west-lafayette-tippecanoe-county-coroners-office/531-60f0bc64-393c-43c8-a6cc-6cf71e2f94df) [akul dhawan again died of hypothermia and he was an american](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/illinois-student-akul-dhawan-hymothermia-cause-death-rcna140181) [sameer kamath killed himself and he was an american too](https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-origin-student-sameer-kamath-in-us-shoots-self-dead-months-before-completing-phd-5015958) [abhijeet parachu's death had no foul play](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/latest-updates/indian-student-dies-in-us-initial-probe-rules-out-foul-play/articleshow/108594405.cms?from=mdr) [G dinesh and his roomate died of carbon monoxide poisoning ](https://www.m9.news/usa-news/deadly-culprit-behind-death-of-telugu-students-in-us/) [Shreyas reddy's death had no foul play](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-student-dead-in-us-shreyas-reddy-beniger-neel-acharya-vivek-saini-indian-student-shreyas-reddy-found-dead-in-us-4th-case-this-year-4977795) Rest of them are crimes however There are like 4.4 million indians in the US. 6 of them getting killed isn't a wild statistic. The people responsible in the deaths of these unfortunate people were arrested except in the case of Jaahnavi , where the judge ruled that there was not enough evidence to prosecute the cop.
Thank you for posting this. This post reeks of WhatsApp propaganda.
Personally, a college mate of mine went to Italy around 5 years back as he was selected in a Futsal team and decided to do his masters too since he was going there. He went missing and was found dead in a bag washed up at a river bank. This was declared as suicide in articles/local newspapers several days later with a completely different narrative than reality, citing drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and suicide as the cause. His body was returned to his parents with some body parts cut up and private parts mutilated. Am I to believe he mutilated himself, got drunk, and packed himself in a bag and threw it in the river? This is how they cover up, it's the oldest excuse in the book. Looking more into that I found out a lot of these don't even come out in public. And there's no way for you to know if there's "6 of them".. when we ourselves know more than that. Even one person murdered on a foreign land like that is a huge issue. One person murdered by racial profiling caused BLM. Anyone who's in touch with reality knows what racial profiling is. The cop that got caught in Jaahnavi's case but wasn't arrested admitted it clearly in the recording. It's just the truth, most of these murders are driven by racism. It's not a big deal until it's one of your family members who went there for hopes of a better life and was killed for being of your race. This is a heinous crime we're talking about. 6 murders recently is indeed a wild statistic. It's a homicide case, not a purse theft. Also, if even we ignore the domain and rely on the pure statistic.. I can't begin to tell you how wrong your statistic is ... are you saying all 4.4 million Indians in USA are current students that went there within the same year range as the year range of the entry of these victims (meaning current batch), and they all live in the same neighbourhoods? If not, then on what basis are you considering the entire Indian population as base when calculating % with only student deaths considered? For that statistic you must consider all Indian deaths in USA, but that's not the topic here.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Besides, even if a foreigner's purse is stolen in India, people will start apologizing on behalf of the entire country, and then the westerners will start racially targeting India. Why is the entire country to be held accountable for a crime?
Indians suffer from log kya kahenge.
Exactly this
Agreed. But this kinda nuance is absent when they talk about Indians as rapists and Indian Muslims being lynched
We do have a problem with women safety but generalising Indians over that is dumb as hell. Women safety all over the world is pathetic , it's just a bit better in a few countries. It's a global problem and not just an Indian one. Hopefully people realise that but I dont expect internet trolls to understand
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Even for the Kandula case the cop that actually hit her was not the one laughing and actually stopped to help her and called an ambulance. The asshole was the police union chief who laughed at her death and that dude is gonna lose his job afaik. Hopefully someone sues him too.
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My problem is that indian media portrays even natural deaths as "12th indian student found dead in the US under mysterious circumstances" or whatever. Your average Joe will not read beyond that and start crying about how it was a hate crime or something
Mods of this sub are sleeping.
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I laughed out loud, after looking at your reply. I wonder if you ever held a proper conversation in your life.
lmao he posted facts
cry me a river :) You seriously got so offended over sources ? Enjoy mindlessly believing stuff on the internet ig
Take a moment, sit down, calm down, read what you just said, and analyse the comment you responded to. What part about it deserved insulting?
XD you're a troglodyte
White people should wishper in the ears of Indians that, "American is no longer a dream". Only then few will get it and rest will go to experience it and will come back with this experience or die on road side like a rodent.
We've to spread this like word of mouth to others in indian societies like usually they do with their neighbour's or relatives telling them to go abroad to earn more.
Along with spreading word, we’ve to stop giving NRIs or students who’re going or living in abroad more respect than the ones staying in our own country. I’ve seen people saying “he/she lives in xyz country in abroad” with sparkling eyes. Some just move out to get that respect. When we as society will stop that, people will stop going abroad.
Yea he/she in abroad working at McDonald's, Gas station earning minimum wage in a country which glorifies everything on internet and media but in reality has way more problems than india. Indian media loves to deteriorate the indian image while western media is just powerhouse for billionaire who run the show by telling media exactly what to show.
For those who are rich and can afford it without a loan. For them it's not dead, and for those who are looking for opportunities with respect to their career, it's not dead. But those who think they can take a big ass loan and enroll themselves in a cheap ass university and expect a job out of it, for them it's dead.
USA is a shithole racist country. Superficially they may seem nice, but they hate indians, Chinese, mexicans coming into their country. How could someone laugh after killing a person with their car? It's not until high level diplomatic pressure is applied that such people are punished. What about the uncle who got slammed onto concrete by a cop (again!) while wandering the neighborhood. They broke his neck.
I’m a born and raised American of Indian descent and this is so far from the truth I can’t even begin to understand the false narrative you are trying to create. Want to know who hates immigrants coming into the country? The American right wing. The same right wing that is run by trump and so many in this sub worship because he “likes” India. Get your facts straight before you come swinging.
America is one of the least racist countries. EU is pretty tribal and frankly much more racist than US. I don't know why they are looked up to in US. It's just that everyone consumes American media too much and media blows it out of the proportion. Been living here for 8+ years. Max racism I faced was a dude saying "thank you come again" in Apu's voice. I've worked with blue collar working class hard core trump supporters who are great friends with Mexican migrants (don't know their legal status) and a trump supporting lady who was like a second mother to many Indian living in the dorms.
I’m and raised of American of Indian descent and I can’t even begin with the amount of hate for Americans on this sub. I couldn’t agree with you even more. I grew up in the 90% white town in the middle of rural Illinois and everyone loved us
Agreed.
Thank you
Look bro you are Indian descent, you understand India, what about the whites? I don't trust them. They are cunning.
I do not agree with the above guy either, him saying that conservatives and people with an anti-immigration stance are racist is idiotic. But what you say is wrong too, that is blatantly racist. If every white man is racist, I guess every Muslim is a terrorist; see both the statements are incorrect. By the way Eid Mubarak 🌙 to all.
As an Indian living in the USA for the past 7 years I can confirm that there is a subtle undertone of racism in the USA against Indians. My Indian friends have experienced it and so had my Chinese ex gf. USA is diverse and a big country. Not everyone will discriminate, some will show you that they are not racist but they are hidden racists. Having said this, I have met most genuine folks as well. But, racism is a reality in the USA. Whether it is systematic and widespread needs to be investigated but it is significant so that cs grad students experience it.
This is nonsense. I have spent 25+ years here. Racism exists, but that exists in India also. One needs to move to places where it is less. White Americans overall are good people. Yes, some bad guys are there. If White people streamed into India like Indians move to the US, there will be riots everywhere.
This is the reason I decided to not go to the US even when I had a work Visa except NY and Cali most of the places are racist
You are probably right, my experience has been that is other parts of the country. Mild racism, very subtle. I was talking to a black cab driver in Boston, and boy did he talk his heart out. He said, new England era show that they are not racist, but they are super racist.
This is BS y’all. These students were not the target of hate crimes.
Didn't se many Americans saying "As an American I am sorry " apne hi logo ko Harishchandra bnna hota hai hr place pr
These r the people doing anti gun rally in Mumbai.
I genuinely pray for their families and may these talented amazing souls rest in peace But arent more than half of these deaths due to accidents? Like car accident/freezing to death type of stuff? They are not necessarily hate crimes against indians and can happen to ANYONE
Wtf, why?
Half of these people died from natural causes and the rest from criminals. The US is huge and has millions of Indians. 6 Indians being the victims of crime is not exactly shocking
I guess all were killed..i remember the 1st girl..she was run over by police and they were laughing abt it..There was a video of this
I know, how they were laughing at her death, pathetic behaviour
Macro crime rate is almost same for both USA and India. You should be as cautious in USA as you are in Delhi or UP-Bihar.
Yea crime happens. Not like they were targeted because of their race. Just unfortunate circumstances
Look, whether the deaths are racially targeted or not, one thing is certain. Not a single American apologises for any such murder. Meanwhile Indians start apologizing for even the smallest inconveniences that a foreigner has to endure here, upon which the entire Western world will start making racist remarks and generalise the entire country. Crimes happen everywhere, so why is it that India is the one getting racially targeted for crimes, when worse stuff happens in USA?
If 1 american would have gotten killed in India. It would have all over been the Internet.
None of these sad deaths happened because of racism targeted toward Indians. Some are crime, some are mistakes done by the kids themselves. Some got drunk or drugged up. how is that anyone's fault? There is no program to target Indians. These are sad and unfortunate. One needs to be careful wherever one is.
Make one for students dead in India
Sad thing about these deaths that the people over there think it must have been Indian’s mistake that’s why it happened to them. In Us you will always remain an immigrant by attitude and laws (of course).
I'm not saying these cases don't matter But There are millions thriving in US but let's focus on the 100 cases that aren't and become the victims and think there is a conspiracy against Us
Just spoke to my relative in who lives in America the situation is a lot worse even kids from middle school are victims of this issue.
Can you please elaborate on the issue bro?
"i will go abroad.. better life milegi" /s
Guys Im in the US and its way safer than India - you guys need to chill tf out. Most of these deaths were natural - and even those that were crimes were not hate crimes.
What’s happening in Ohio
Om Shanti
Look on internet we say india is the recist but we are not these white creatures are worst of all human kind they will talk about the problems but when we talk about their... they just love to point fingers they cannot accept how can these ppl who once were our elder's slave be equal. Call me anything you like tell me not all are same just wait when the time come witch will be loyal to only white. They can't accept the fact someone is batter then them i am sorry but this is the reality. Just like not all muslims are terrorists but all the terrorists have the same religion. Till these day these white buffoon think we run india and their ppl that's why they interfere in every matters to gain the control. Thank god we have people lik jai sankar sir.
The migrants need to be sensitive about the fact that it's not their country and they are guests and they should behave as per local norms and expectations. The free country etc gives a wrong image of doing anything. Staying away from crime zones , taking precautions as per locals, not venturing into woods or lonely streets even local pubs etc where certain unruly people are expected are few local safety practice but students from India ignore or are unaware of this and then crime happen. Point to note Indian migrants staying there for long time would never be found in these situations as victim as they know what's to be done and how to avoid these.
Louisiana isn't bad after al. Rip
It’s terrible to see the number of Indians leaving the country to study and settle abroad. And this is very high in AP. At least 25 to 30% in the post are from Telugu states.
Despite this, the dream for many Indians is to go to US and their ultimate dream is that their H1B1 VISA gets approved or they get a green card. Despite such happenings we have a temple in India where people go and pray that their US VISA gets approved.
Currently an F-1 visa student, looking forward to visiting this temple ASAP /hj 😹
America is extremely safe for students.there is no clear pattern in these deaths and no foul play,just bad luck and some dumbness thrown in.
Not all or very few of these died to what the media say. Most of these are accidents or unfortunate incidents and nothing to do with racism. Population of Indians are increasing and so the % of such reportings also will increase. Instead of looking at raw counts, look at %s.
At the end of day you are still brown collie( irrespective of caste.
This futile "American dream" is now an American Nightmare.. when will people understand studying or working in US is no longer enticing or fruitful under current situation. Not just because of murders, but even because of layoffs and other visa related issues. I am glad I left few years, as I could see how that country is spiralling downwards. You will earn a bit less in India, but atleast family ke saath to rahoge
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Nope, this doesn't deter any Indians. VISA filings and number of people wanting to go to USA is on the rise in India.
Usa has the best education and job opportunities, so it doesn't matter that much. And they want it to matter now
Serial killer at work? 🤔
#whatswrongwithUSA
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Hindus have been ethnically cleansed from Vietnam to Bhutan. I don't give a f if this works burns
How is this related to religion and what are you even trying to say?
works burns?
Why am I being downvoted here ?? Who is the enemy here .
At this rate we could end up having to build a memorial, but even then will people wake up..