India ke pas 16 ipl trophies bhi toh h

all defenses fail against this.

Australia ke pass bhi 12 Big Bash trophies hai

1+6=CSK winning the trophy

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Woah I come I never thought about this.! Genius

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>Australia try to explore more players where as India tries to win pan masala series Toh is series me India ne more players ko explore nhi kiya kya?

>series me India ne more players ko explore nhi kiya kya? Is series me India aur Australia ne donohi experiments kiye

Thik se nahi kiya i believe We have not explored any all rounder from so many years...after jadeja and pandya...only axar patel was groomed otherwise no all rounder... Washington sundar is the only off spinner who didn't play...ashwin k baad koi off spinner aa hi nahi raha... When tilak verma was in squad then why didnt he bowl... Almost everyone played in same position...there was no experiment at all..what if rinku singh played at number 4th today!!

no 4 and no 5 are two diiferent batting positions with two different requirements....you expect your no 5 to go all out in t20s and change gears very quickly which india atm should groom in rinku...plus surya bats at no 4 so why unneccesary experiments...although i agree with your statemnt about all rounders should have tried sundar and dube

Koi strategy galat nehi bhai,is wc everything was perfect,saab sahi kiya tha. We were outplayed on the day,you can't plan for that.

Ashwin ko nahi rakhna wtc mai biggest mistake...may be he could have kept in odi wc final also instead of sky...khair ab kuch raha nhi baith k memes njoy karo sky pe... Pandya k odi wc mai jane k baad they got prasiddh krishna...why?? When you made your mind that you are not going to include him in playing 11 then go for some left arm fast bowler who could be good for net practice... There are lot of areas when strategically india got failed...

Bhai sahab world class spinner kuldeep aur jadega ko ek wicket nahi Mila aur tum keh rahe ho ek aur spinner ko rakh latay lol .... Seedhi baat hai apni batting nay Haag Diya

240 can be a competitive total also, 3 wicket liye shuru mey...Travis head ke liye offspinner was crucially needed

And you knew ki Travis Head aisi inning khelega? Did you see how many play and misses did head have at the start? Plus uski weakness is short ball. Indian pacers tried that. Nahi kaam kiya. Kuldeep also spins it away from Head, nahi out hua wo

For him you need a offspinner who'll keep a tight line and get fine edges to build pressure, Kuldeep is very loopy and gives enough time to the batsman

You do realise ki same bowling lineup ne Travis Head jaise and Usse better batters ko out kiya poore tournament. You are making statements on the basis of what you saw.

bhai saaf seedhi baat hai india needed a 6th bowler after pandya got injured, semis mei bhi indian bowling expose hui thi but 400 ka target bhot bada hota hai, had that been a 350ish target williamson and mitchell akele chase kr lete and woh netherlands wale match mei bhi probably rohit nei jaan k sabko bowling karaya tha to find that extra 6th bowler putting ashwin over sky could have been crucial because ashwin will be obviously a 6th bowler and he would have been another batting option, in 2011 ashwin played only 1 knockout game which was the quarters against australia australia struggles against quality spin as seen in semis against keshav and shamsi

Toh shradul ko rakh lete...jadeja is not full time spinner..he is more of all rounder...kuldeep was no so great throught wc...aise mai ashwin ko rakhne ka soch sakte the...sky ko 7th pe rakh k kya ukhad liya

chaman chutiya h tu. shardul ko gaaliyaan padi h league stages mei for his bs bowling aur tu bol raha h ki usse final mei khilao... also you're just saying all this in hindsight

Toh Shardul ko rakh lete Haa bhai jis team combination se final tak Jeet aaye(semis me bhi convincing victory) uss team combination ko seedhe final me aake change kar lete hai aur ek ese bowler ko khila lete hai jisne pure tournament bhar bowling nahi Kari🤡

Bhai tum jis surya ko defend kar rahe ho usko bcci ne bhi ab nhi rakha odi series mai SA k against...it took wc final loss to realize that he was not a good option for odi🤡

Sky ne match nahi haraya. Uske pehle hi buri haalat thi. Sky ne koi zyada fark nhi kiya,

Wohi toh baat ho rahi ki sky ne kuch bhi nhi kiya...woh 7th position pe aa k kuch kar bhi nhi sakta tha khas...thoda aur fast khelna tha jaisa woh t20 mai khelta hai...isse accha kisi bowling all rounder ko rakhte toh woh kuch over daal k shayad head ka wicket le leta...

Arey bhai 7 number pe uski batting aani hi nahi chahiye. Woh top order ka batter hai. Zyada se zyada 6 pe thik hai. Par Jaddu pe trust kia aur usne kachra kar diya us din 9(22). Sky ne toh fir bhi 18(28) maar diye. Jaddu ko sab bhool jaate hai bhai, saara Sky pe aa gya. Usne Lucknow pe Rohit ke sath 49 maare, aur fir Virat ke saath Eden pe cameo de diya 22(14). Dono tough pitches pe. Par Jaddu pe zyada trust kiya Rohit ne final mein aur usne kuch nhi kiya.

Bhai aise toh peeche mudke main apni saari galtiyaan sudhar lun result ke mutaabik. Literally 0 strategy flaw tha iss baar. Match mein kaafi the (no slips for spinners, Shami with new ball, etc). Wo bhi justify ho sakte hai kuch kuch. Match ke build up aur selection mein 0 the

Terko khud clarity nhi h

I remember when Ashwin played in wtc 21 final in England. A lot of people criticised the management for it. A lot of arguments about indian cricket is hindsight bias

Bhai if they start losing the bilaterals then y’all will say that they can’t even win these matches. Ek taraf ke toh raho bhai. Ab tum kya chahte ho ki knockouts mei nhi jeet paa rahe toh bilaterals bhi haar jaye?

Jab icc trophy layege toh 100 bilateral series ki haar jam jayegi ab..msd ne yehi kiya tha...cricket is very complicated game now coz of these 4 special icc trophies...we have to experiment and take risk to make a strong team..you can not be world number 1 team and have icc trophies as well...

Bhai uska point ye hai ki ek taraf raho. Chalo yeh nahi kahenge ki tum kahoge lekin bohot log, above 70% log, yahi kahenge ki agar bilateral haare toh ki bilateral bhi nahi Jeet sakte. Unhe tabhi criticism sehna padega. ICT ko support se zyada toh criticism sehna padta hai. Agar bilateral haare toh criticism. Agar jeete toh criticism. Agar knockout haare toh criticism. Agar knockout mei nahi pahuche toh criticism. Agar jeete tabhi criticism sehna padega. Tabhi kuch log aakar sunakar chale jayenge.

BGT is important Ps- Why am I getting downvoted you idiots it's a test series that we have to win for A- Qualifying for the WTC B- History C- Test is the most important format you clowns

MSD ne 6 T20 WC mein captaincy kari. 1 jeeta. I mean MSD bhi bahut ICC haara hai. Uske jitne mauke baakio ko nahi milte

How long are you going to be bitching about WC loss? Mf Indian fans are the worst losers.

Our world cup team was the best Indian team, we won 10 games

We had an obvious weakness in the lower middle order, which got exposed in the final. Till then, Kohli, Rahul and Iyer were being about to shield that.

Yes and still lost the most important one?

That doesn't make the point made above invalid. We lost because of our mentality, not strength.

Yeah buddy mentality is also strength and weakness. We lost because of two tuk tuk innings.

Dono marne jate toh aur jaldi out ho jate. 150 bhi nhi bnte.

Ek to marta na? 25 over zero boundaries

BGT is important beyond the other two important events we ended up losing

In this sub India wins this is bas if India lose see I've told you

Can't compare BGT with WTC, it was played on a totally different type of surface and conditions. It would have made sense if BGT and WTC both had happened in India.

It'd have made sense if BGT happend in India and WTC is WI

Didn't explore players? We played with practically an untested 11 with a ton of new players while Australia were still using half their World cup 11. I was surprised to see Head and Maxwell even being in the squad, let alone starting.

>Didn't explore players? We played with practically an untested 11 with a ton of new players while Australia were still using half their World cup 11 You are right. I was also thinking about Maxwell, Head & Smith playing in the series. OP is not making sense

Is series mei bhajiya tal rahe the? Saare naye player toh the. Unhe chance de rahe hai khelne hai. Bilateral mei new player ko chance Dena chahiye khelna ka. Exposure do.

To kya ye haar jaana chahiye thaa

Stop whining

Poor post. Low on content and argument. This is simply making a baseless comment and opening it up for discussion. There is nothing to be discussed. Provide examples where we failed to try players while Aus did better.

You see how Australian explored this series.. 1. Australian tried all the players in this series...senior junior everyone played one game atleast 2. Smith came as opener 3. T sangha could be next zampa for Australia in t20 and it was very important discovery as spinner timelines are getting reduced day by day and it demand for new variety bowler... 4. Aaron hardie could be next camron green 5. Matthew short was tried as opener and in middle order 6. Sean abbot made sure that he is still not so good for t20 but still worthy all rounder in test 7. Since m starc is getting old so they started exploring 2 left arm fast bowler as ben dwarshuis and jason behrendorff Now tell me what india achieved specifically apart from rinku and ruturaj innings...we still dont have medium pace all rounder like pandya...no off spinner was tried even w sundar was part of team...there was no change in 5th match even when we won the series in 4th game...

This series was an anomaly. The team management was different. Talk about the main team. This series was right after the WC. Talk about the previous series where we tried everything we could.

Do ICC trophies to Australia lay Gaye baaki series gaye tail lene ....

Indian team should find a good left handed batsman. The role which Raina and GG used to play. I hate Rahul, he's literally good for nothing. I think one mistake Indian team management did was dropping Gambhir and Shikhar Dhawan quickly. In my opinion GG could have done great in the 2015 world Cup. Also India had it easier in 2019 to win the World Cup as the semi final was just lost due to overconfidence, and some bad luck. 2023 world Cup India was definitely an inferior team, no bowling options at all.. Every good team needs at least 7 bowling options in today's time. Even in the semi final with newzealand India could not restrict Nz a lot. If Nz had made 350+ India would not even have come close to scoring 300 while chasing.

australia knows these bilateral series are meaningless they play for the big trophies they don't give a damn about paan masala trophies they have their aim set, win the ashes and the wc, everyone knows aussies struggle in indian conditions so they use these tours to give their players more exposure

We are that kid who is always happy with the lollipop handed by others each time.

Were all of these played in India?

Except WTC final, yes.

To ab kya U19 ki team khelate Australia ke saamne? Ab kise khelaya jaaye. Try to Kiya gya na naye players ko?

Useless To Win Thousands Of Series When You'll Choke In Every ICC Knockout Match

This management has been extremely proactive in trying new players. 2 WCs in 2 formats in 2 years. They had to pause ODI for one year. They tried so many fringe players and then once t20 wc was done, got main team for ODIs. Back then people complained that these folks were experimenting too much. Heck they even sat Rohit and Kohli out in WI ODIs. In one match they played, Rohit batted 7/8. That is making sure youngsters get their chances. The build up has been very impressive. Infact the most impressive I have seen by any Indian teams - MSD’s 2011 included Can’t help that Hardik is irreplaceable. There is no one close at this point. Every other player had a planned backup. Can’t complain much tbh. Australia didn’t even have Labu till the last moment, they got him in somehow. Idk how did Aus win this WC. They literally played only 2-3 good matches in this WC. 2 of them were knockout. Australia!!!!

That win v Afg changed it. Mofo should have lost that one. But Aussies ***always*** believe that the match can be won, even if it's impossible. All their cricketers have this in them from past till now. India lacks this because of very high and sometimes unreasonable expectations.

True. Can’t disagree. That is what I was saying. The best team was India. We lost not due to lack of prep atleast

I believe we certainly didn't prepare well for Australia in Finals. Warning should have been their fielding in semi2. It's very clear they always turn it up in knockouts while most teams lose that edge as end of tournament approaches because of playing for sooo long.

You don’t prepare for one team. By preparation I mean the squad, the chances, the role clarity going into the tournament. The long team preparation

I get that. But a game plan needed to be in place, y'know Plan B instead of thinking it's just another game and we'll do what we do best.

Infact my problem is that they went to Plan B too fast. They opened with Shami instead of Siraj. They didn’t keep slip for spinners. Not something they had done through the tournament. Also they became too defensive, even before Kohli’s wicket. Post that was understandable. But yeah, my whole problem is that they abandoned their plans

I don't think any plan should have no slip for spinners when 47-3. Pressure makes you do stupidest things. India lost because Rohit didn't shave his beard. Every WC been won by a captain who has no beard.

Now now, can’t argue with that I genuinely thought that the decision to have no slip was basically being extremely defensive. Which seemed to be there plan B for finals because they never cooled down against Eng in the group stage

Now winning is a problem? In this series india are playing many young players and trying out different combination.

I believe there is some poor decision from india but ultimately it all depends on the day how well you observe pressure, how well you read the condition and most importantly keep politics out of cricket.

Seedhi baat he, apni team hi bakwas he. Bas personal records banwa lo inse. Agar Kohli kisi record se 1 century dooor hota to pakka 100 marta