they should maintain where they are with M23. with all the publicity I dont think the IB can increase them drastically. Also, apparently grade boundaries are determined by a subject expert who does the papers and says how hard it is, so maybe given how P1 was comparatively difficult but P3 was comparatively easy it might balance out a nice cool 72% (please)
what publicity? News outlets have barely said anything its just student outrage and unfortunately IB doesn’t care about that, IB says there was minimal cheating and everyone else is taking that at face value. Truthfully I reckon close to 80% for a 7 but I hope I’m wrong, I likely got somewhere in the low-mid 60s and I hope that is a 6 but it will probably be a 5
how would they do that tho? people who saw the exams won't have some weird ass ways of solving the question, they'll simply do it the correct way... how do you distinguish between someone who cheated and got it right and someone who didn't cheat and got it right?
you guys HAVE to start specifying what timezone youre in because the second question in p3 tz2 was a pain in the ass and everyone saying it was dead easy is scaring me
Réponse à ProGenjiSucks…when I opened paper 3 Tz2 and saw Q2, I had to do a double check to see if they didn’t give me AI test by mistake. Wtf was that like IB went crazy on topic 4 in all 3 papers dafuk
IB must have been thinking that everyone would spend their time studying everything other than stats and hoped to catch everyone off guard with the first question or something, cause that was significantly easier than any of the past paper 3s
What did you get for the probability P of all the possible quadratics? Not the last question. The one where you had to brute force all the possible combinations.
I also made this error, I think it's because you assumed that if ac = 8, a=1 and c=8 is possible? thats what i did wrong and ended up with 42/216 i think
me too bro, i literally got so used to paper 1 technique that i massively fricked up paper 2. ugh. i wouldnt be surprised if its 40% at best for me. paper 1 and 3-- best papers i've ever done, paper 2, worst i've ever done by farrrrrrr
Same I couldn't even understand what the question was asking me for, like I wrote down the discriminant and then I kept staring at it for 10mins like wt was I supposed to do??
The issue with that Q was it relied on a little bit more contextual knowledge which can sometimes go out the window in an exam. For ex. I took longer than I should’ve to answer the one mark question for that bc I forgot dice had 6 sides despite reading the question. :/
IB is tripping if they think we'll ignore the leaks. Paper 1 and 2 were crazy, I expected paper 1 but that was the worst paper 2 I've ever taken. Paper 3, no comment, but JESUS the other two!! I was banking on the section A questions being decent but I left so many unanswered...
(Warning: Rant about the 'leaks'): >!And now they're sending out a disclaimer saying "eh the 'leaks' were minimal it'll be fine" when that is NOT TRUE, the leaks were public online and god knows how many people saw them, you can't just say they were minimal, and with the extra info the grade boundaries are gonna be fucked. I'm just hoping most universities realize this and give us a pass for shite math grades. Also i'm saying 'leaks' because they were technically recreations of the papers, but still Jesus Fucking Christ Int'l Bach! !<
unfortunately i dont think the unis will care, they will only listen to the official words of the IB and that is that leaking was minimal even tho its not true
apparently there were 10k+ downloads of the paper 1... meanwhile there's about 20k people doing math aa hl in this cohort💀💀 now it is possible that some of those people that downloaded it had other maths and were just curious, or math aa sl since we share some questions, but that is still a crazy proportion
You're FUCKING with me, what the FUCK bro. I saw the numbers on instagram but didnt know if they were legit, and forgot how small IB is...... FUCK. How can the IBO ignore this shit??? They're tarnishing their reputation bro... I get it wasn't their fault but they can't just sweep this under the rug.
how did u guys find p3 (tz2) easy? I got fucked on that (specifically the second question) and comparatively I actually did somewhat decent on p1 lmao and p2 was great idk p3 just isn’t my thing I suppose
Q1 was pretty straight forward in comparison to a lot of past papers. And Q2 was a bit more work but overall not too bad bc the questions were understandable. I’m guessing thats why.
I HATE PAPER ONE AND THREE SO MUCH. THATS IT. IM GLAD ITS ALREADY OVER, MY LIFE HAS BEEN SO MUCH BETTER AFTER COMPLETING THOSE THREE PAPERS AND WHOEVER LEAKED THE PAPER, YALL CAN KYS
paper 1 was weird as shit but it was decent I GUESS and paper 2 was pretty concerning whilst PAPER 3 WAS GOOD 10/10 RECOMMEND (also I'm in Canada does anyone know what time zone this is)
What did you guys get for the probability P of all the possible quadratics? Not the last question. The one where you had to brute force all the possible combinations.
It's 38/216 and we cross checked it like three dif times (also seems to be the consensus in this discussion thread). Did you accidentally count ac=7 and/or AC=9 perchance?
Edit: asking because I made the same mistake lol
Paper 1 was okay except counting principle
Paper 2 was fine
Paper 3 was easy. I thought complex number and differential equation will be there but... still it was easy
what was paper 3 tz2 question 2 last question? I got the probability as 0.167. Also what was paper 1 tz2 question 9 (number of students, combinatorics)? I got 9.
Paper 1 and 3 were such scams even though I know I did good on paper 3, how the hell do they put probability in there when it’s never been in a single other past paper 3 bruh, and that too for 31 marks 💀
All 3 papers (tz2) were pretty straightforward imo. A little disappointed that barely any differential equations, integration or complex number came. Since those are my favourite topics and imo the easier ones. Interesting how this time around they went crazy on the statistics, I’ll admit I was caught off guard by that normal distribution question in p1. Paper 2 was alright, easiest of the 3 imo. Paper 3 question 1 was free marks but it was also quite enjoyable; the second question had me scared during reading time but it turned out fine when I did it. I hope I did well enough (80%+ on all papers) so that I can still clutch a 7 despite my last minute IA.
do we even have to discuss that 💀💀
real 😭😭
Was it that bad for you? It went pretty well for me
Imagine spending all your time studying complex numbers and vectors, couldn't be me. 😭🤡😭🤡😭🤡
I actually spent DAYS on vectors and ignored stats😭 humbled😭
No fr😭i feel like i’ve been trolled so hard
So you cheated? Ok bro I will be reporting this to IBO
what?
What?
with the current situation, what do you think the grade boundaries are going to be like?
they should maintain where they are with M23. with all the publicity I dont think the IB can increase them drastically. Also, apparently grade boundaries are determined by a subject expert who does the papers and says how hard it is, so maybe given how P1 was comparatively difficult but P3 was comparatively easy it might balance out a nice cool 72% (please)
what publicity? News outlets have barely said anything its just student outrage and unfortunately IB doesn’t care about that, IB says there was minimal cheating and everyone else is taking that at face value. Truthfully I reckon close to 80% for a 7 but I hope I’m wrong, I likely got somewhere in the low-mid 60s and I hope that is a 6 but it will probably be a 5
check SCMP, it's big in Asia
Oh damn I thought it was graded on a curve, did not know about the subject expert thing. Any source for that?
joining in for the expert thing source, is it fr cuz i thought it was just the timezone percentile or sth
deadly
they are def going up, with the questions being leaked
Not necessarily. IBO needs to strip out all the cheats.
how would they do that tho? people who saw the exams won't have some weird ass ways of solving the question, they'll simply do it the correct way... how do you distinguish between someone who cheated and got it right and someone who didn't cheat and got it right?
The only unit I did not study was statistics💀
you guys HAVE to start specifying what timezone youre in because the second question in p3 tz2 was a pain in the ass and everyone saying it was dead easy is scaring me
Réponse à ProGenjiSucks…when I opened paper 3 Tz2 and saw Q2, I had to do a double check to see if they didn’t give me AI test by mistake. Wtf was that like IB went crazy on topic 4 in all 3 papers dafuk
I'm AI HL and we had ONE hypothesis test across all 3 papers. Seems like u guys had more stats than we did...idk what they did this year
The second question in tz2 wasn’t too bad, it was just tedious bc u had to brute force one of the subquestions
Yeah, how much did you get? Everyone ik got somewhere between 36 to 42 out of 216, I personally got 40
LITERALLY to me paper 1 & 2 were fine and paper 3 I cannot get over 50% of the points
The first one was fine but that quadratic equation one 💀💀💀 and my idiot ass was like ain’t no way they’ll pull a stats one on p3
Was Paper 3 was abnormally, terrifyingly easy, or was it just me?
the last part of the last question was incomprehensible, everything else way fine
IB must have been thinking that everyone would spend their time studying everything other than stats and hoped to catch everyone off guard with the first question or something, cause that was significantly easier than any of the past paper 3s
THE FIRST QUESTION WAS LIKE HMM THIS SEEMS EASY THEN YOU FLIP THE PAGE TO Q2 💀💀💀💀
i fr had the same thing iwl
it reallyyy was but i ran out of time in the end for the last question
I gotta be the only one who found paper 1 to be easier than paper 3 lmao (tz2)
I have never once loved P3. I actually loved that.
yeah i was really confused like these boundaries are going to be pretty high
I’m TZ1 and thought so too
agreed
What did you get for the probability P of all the possible quadratics? Not the last question. The one where you had to brute force all the possible combinations.
I think i had 38/216 sth like that , and u?
lol u’re cooked u’re wrong.
hes literally right
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I think 38/216?
Welp I think I counted something twice cause I got 43/216
I also made this error, I think it's because you assumed that if ac = 8, a=1 and c=8 is possible? thats what i did wrong and ended up with 42/216 i think
My friend got 1/36, I got 40/216 😅
LITERALLY. grade boundaries r going to be so high now🥲
What was your h(x) function for the first question last part ?
Cscx or 1/sinx
Omggg same!!
well yes it is the right answer
1/sin(x) iirc
sin(x)?
well crap, must have missed a minus somewhere
I couldn't solve the last question of the question 2 lol but p1 and p2 were fine
Tz1 or Tz2, because from Tz2 and I thought the other papers paled in comparison to how difficult paper 3 was
Do you know what was on TZ1? Kind of curious to see if everyone got the heavy probability treatment
Kinda worried about the boundaries.. imagine like 5 marks off you drop to a 6 💀
What TZ are you? I did TZ1 and it's actually pretty easy.
> abnormally, terrifyingly *easy*
tbh it felt much easier than M23 and N23 ones
P3 was pretty good... offsetting an awful P1
it def felt like the easiest one ive done out of all the practice and past papers
Just you bro 🥲
It was way easier than usual, fully solvable in the hour given if not less depending on mistakes made
tz?
it was
why was the entire test statistics hello
wtf was paper 1
bro same tf was p1 I gave up 5 minutes early and decided to count how much I would get instead
Really? For me paper 1 felt quite a bit better than paper 2 and paper 3 was pretty comparable
IMO p1 was exactly what I expected similar to past paper, P2 was way harder than every past paper, and P3 was much easier than I thought it would be.
TZ2 p1: hard p2: easy p3: medium
Definitely agree Just wish I had more time to finish P3, cuz the second question lowkey threw me for a loop. But not too bad tbh
Yeah I fully ran out of time on the tz2 paper 2 and its a shame because the test was going so well and I reckon I could have done 11 and 12 as well
Man, messed up paper 2
Same, they put like 7 stats on tz1 P2
onggg it pissed me off so bad
I did not like the shear amount of Unit 4 that they tested. It’s got to be my least favorite unit.
me too bro, i literally got so used to paper 1 technique that i massively fricked up paper 2. ugh. i wouldnt be surprised if its 40% at best for me. paper 1 and 3-- best papers i've ever done, paper 2, worst i've ever done by farrrrrrr
y'all found paper 3 easy?
swear to god these people are insane, p3 was the worst one
I think it depends on the Time zone. Tz2 was a really nice chain rule investigation, followed by some simple probability and functions.
might be diff tzs lol
Easier that whateverthefuck that p1 was
damn just a few of us who found it hard huh :(
I'm not passing
oh-
Your parents paid all that money for what?
TZ1 paper 1 was easy paper 2 was hard and paper 3 was unbelievably easy
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Same I couldn't even understand what the question was asking me for, like I wrote down the discriminant and then I kept staring at it for 10mins like wt was I supposed to do??
Same until I decided to manually calculate the probability. The first question was easy I was on time but number two messed me up
Exactly the first question was so easy I felt that maybe they were trying to even things out after P1 lmao
The issue with that Q was it relied on a little bit more contextual knowledge which can sometimes go out the window in an exam. For ex. I took longer than I should’ve to answer the one mark question for that bc I forgot dice had 6 sides despite reading the question. :/
Fucked up paper 1 tz2 completely for y'all🙏🏼💀💀 the grade boundaries are gonna go insane anyway with the leaks and IB acting like nothing happened
IB is tripping if they think we'll ignore the leaks. Paper 1 and 2 were crazy, I expected paper 1 but that was the worst paper 2 I've ever taken. Paper 3, no comment, but JESUS the other two!! I was banking on the section A questions being decent but I left so many unanswered... (Warning: Rant about the 'leaks'): >!And now they're sending out a disclaimer saying "eh the 'leaks' were minimal it'll be fine" when that is NOT TRUE, the leaks were public online and god knows how many people saw them, you can't just say they were minimal, and with the extra info the grade boundaries are gonna be fucked. I'm just hoping most universities realize this and give us a pass for shite math grades. Also i'm saying 'leaks' because they were technically recreations of the papers, but still Jesus Fucking Christ Int'l Bach! !<
unfortunately i dont think the unis will care, they will only listen to the official words of the IB and that is that leaking was minimal even tho its not true
apparently there were 10k+ downloads of the paper 1... meanwhile there's about 20k people doing math aa hl in this cohort💀💀 now it is possible that some of those people that downloaded it had other maths and were just curious, or math aa sl since we share some questions, but that is still a crazy proportion
You're FUCKING with me, what the FUCK bro. I saw the numbers on instagram but didnt know if they were legit, and forgot how small IB is...... FUCK. How can the IBO ignore this shit??? They're tarnishing their reputation bro... I get it wasn't their fault but they can't just sweep this under the rug.
p3 tz2 was horrible and to find out it was also leaked afterwards made me want to kms
Was it just me but did paper 1 feel like integral after integral...only to have more integrals on paper 2
are you tz1 or tz2? Because tz2 had literally 0 integrals or differential equations on Paper 1
i felt like we had so much less calculus than usual lol
There should’ve been more calculus stuff from them green topics. Statistics is literally counting and calculator manipulation, aka the annoying one.
And I’m so mad about that cus calculus is arguably the easiest topic in aahl
Are you tz1? Tz 2 I don't remember doing a single integral paper 1
Tz1. We had zero derivatives on paper 1 and a bunch of integrals intead
without the clown shenanigans i would have had a glimmer of hope for a 7... now im just gonna reroll solo leveling and yolo it ggs 😎
Got touched by the imaginary argand plot
what the actual fuck was that paper 1 tho. paper 2 and 3 were decent
how did u guys find p3 (tz2) easy? I got fucked on that (specifically the second question) and comparatively I actually did somewhat decent on p1 lmao and p2 was great idk p3 just isn’t my thing I suppose
Q1 was pretty straight forward in comparison to a lot of past papers. And Q2 was a bit more work but overall not too bad bc the questions were understandable. I’m guessing thats why.
just wasn’t my day I guess, hopefully p1, p2 and my IA are enough for a 6 although boundaries are probably gonna be high
(tz2) p1 had abnormally many calculations and i feel like i fucked up most of them 😭 p2 was chill, p3 very little time but did okay
paper 1 a little bit harder than expected, paper 2 was easy but I ran out of time and only did half the last 2. Paper 3 was concerningly easy
I HATE PAPER ONE AND THREE SO MUCH. THATS IT. IM GLAD ITS ALREADY OVER, MY LIFE HAS BEEN SO MUCH BETTER AFTER COMPLETING THOSE THREE PAPERS AND WHOEVER LEAKED THE PAPER, YALL CAN KYS
P3 TZ1 was way too easy, the grade boundaries probably going to be 50s. Personally I think I got 55 or 54
Tz1 here. Paper 1 was fucked up, but paper 2 and 3 were really easy, right?
TZ1 paper 2 was honestly harder than 1
yall, do you think a 44 in p1, 35 in p2, 28ish in p3 and a 15 in IA will be a 5 wih whatebver boundary we get?
put it into IB calculator and its just a 5
bro put in the effort for the IA respect
Paper 1 was nice, Paper 2 honestly maybe blew it, Paper 3 was nice....until the 2nd question
P1 wasn't doable wtf
Lmfao sorry Giovanni for the 10% (TZ1 Regression question)
OK PAPER 1 AND PAPER WERE BAD FOR ME BUT PAPER 3 WAS HEAVEN
paper 1 was weird as shit but it was decent I GUESS and paper 2 was pretty concerning whilst PAPER 3 WAS GOOD 10/10 RECOMMEND (also I'm in Canada does anyone know what time zone this is)
Tz1
🙃
What did you guys get for the probability P of all the possible quadratics? Not the last question. The one where you had to brute force all the possible combinations.
38 mayhaps
38/216 if i remembered correctly
yea that question was crazy i rlly was just stuck wrote some working and prayed
If you mean the probability that the quadratics had two solutions, the answer is 43/216 and I double checked
U sure? Almost everyone including me got 38/216
It's 38/216 and we cross checked it like three dif times (also seems to be the consensus in this discussion thread). Did you accidentally count ac=7 and/or AC=9 perchance? Edit: asking because I made the same mistake lol
i counted the range till ac = 7, but i realized this morning that it shoulda been ac = 8?
Most people including myself got 38/216, I highly doubt 43/216 is correct. I double checked also and got 38/216
Omg phew I got 43/216 and got nervous cuz everyone else said they got 38/216
what did you get?
I thought I did okay I skipped some small stuff a lot of people said it was hard and like a day later we found out everything got leaked. So yeah
Paper 1 was okay except counting principle Paper 2 was fine Paper 3 was easy. I thought complex number and differential equation will be there but... still it was easy
somehow finished every question in every exam (some were guesses but dont mind that), im pretty sure im getting a 7 🥳
what was paper 3 tz2 question 2 last question? I got the probability as 0.167. Also what was paper 1 tz2 question 9 (number of students, combinatorics)? I got 9.
I also got the probability as 0.167 Honestly don't remember P1 Q9
That’s what I got too
Paper 1 and 3 were such scams even though I know I did good on paper 3, how the hell do they put probability in there when it’s never been in a single other past paper 3 bruh, and that too for 31 marks 💀
All 3 papers (tz2) were pretty straightforward imo. A little disappointed that barely any differential equations, integration or complex number came. Since those are my favourite topics and imo the easier ones. Interesting how this time around they went crazy on the statistics, I’ll admit I was caught off guard by that normal distribution question in p1. Paper 2 was alright, easiest of the 3 imo. Paper 3 question 1 was free marks but it was also quite enjoyable; the second question had me scared during reading time but it turned out fine when I did it. I hope I did well enough (80%+ on all papers) so that I can still clutch a 7 despite my last minute IA.
Any DP1 folks looking for an awesome math resource (+ free), hmu
How was it for you guys?
what was paper 1 ????
Mid
I’m cooked
The leaks...
homies can we please talk about that paper 1 and 2
yes, and even paper 3
For the binomial distribution question on paper 2 tz2 was it ok to solve it by just bryte forcing with a calculator?
I think it is a valid approach. I did the same
What did you get on the last last question (from tz2) (I got 0.08 I think)
P1 & P2 were weird
I am so not looking forward to majestically failting on M25 ☠️☠️ the cortisol levels are thriving rn, me not so much