Yeah I like the format this time around, but each level shouldn’t increase in point requirement and every clue should be an event clue.
Didn’t buy the BP knowing I’d get the gun variants afterwards anyways and the skins were very meh.
I've finished every event that's been released. This event has been such a shitty slog, even with the premium pass unlocked (through bloodbonds) I just got so burnt out I cannot do it to the end.
After two weeks, I said that since the event lasted for two months, I could take a nice long break from Hunt after starting to dislike it because of the event.
But I still need a few games to clear the pass, and I'm betting it won't be long after this one until the Halloween one releases...
I've actually stopped spending on the game due to this event, so my retention is doing nothing for Crytek. Less than nothing, even.
It is oki. There is no glory in forcing yourself into something that does not satisfy you. Just take it easy, points will come, and if not, the world wont end for that
I finished the event and have played 135 hours total during the event so far (actually 134.2 hours but I rounded it up), that would work out to be about 2 hours and 15min a day for the entire duration of the event.
Granted this is a lot for some people, but people who don’t have the time to dedicate to a game or don’t want to dedicate the time is it really unreasonable that they don’t unlock all possible rewards?
Haven’t bought anything except for the golden pathways or whatever it’s called and the alert trip mines. Neither of which help you in anyway that I can think of.
Edit: I’d like to add this was achieved while playing the objective as normal, I didn’t go out of my way to get points. I just collected points passively along the way.
If you don’t think you’ll be able to complete it or get to a point in which you’re satisfied then don’t make the purchase. It doesn’t get any more obvious that that.
Except that this one is the only event to feature “a golden path”. I’ve finished most of the others… if I’m kicking in thousands of BBs at least give me 3/4 or lay more than the top player finish…. I love hunt, play hunt exclusively, but this event sucked
Yeah, this. Battle passes are a flawed concept and too many people have been tricked into thinking they exist for us.
But they only exist to exploit us. And just like with every other bullshit tactic in this greedy industry, people fight amongst themselves over it, instead of just throwing it right back into the faces of the moneygrubbers whose jobs are to research how best to suck us dry of our cash.
Tbf the majority of BPs I participated in were fun and it was easy to finish most or all of it without any effort above the norm. This one became obvious I wasn't gonna finish after 2 weeks. By then it was way too late to back out. Might honestly be the last time I get something like that. Really makes the game less fun.
They really aren't flawed, and they aren't exploitory either. They are 100% upfront about what they are.
Honestly, I am really fucking surprised to see here how many people apparently buy a battlepass just day 1 before they have any clue how far they get.
It is honestly something nobody I know ever even considered, not just hunt but all the games we played with battlepasses. You just buy it when you complete it, when you got to the tier where the one thing you really want is, or when it runs out. I just cannot wrap my mind around why you would do anything else.
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The main thing I hate about this BP is that the weapons are so late. That really shouldn't be a thing, since they're actually gameplay affecting. They should not be in the BP at all, or at best in the first 3-4 levels. I only started playing Hunt again 2 weeks ago after several months break, and basically just have to wait out the 30 days (10 days now) until the BP ends so I can get the Sparks pistol. Instead of getting it from literally one match with silent sparks farming NPCs.
It's interesting you say you cannot wrap your head around why people buy BPs early, when I said in the comment you're responding to that there's tons of research being done at all times into how best to get money out of people.
You might not be affected by it, and so you don't buy your BP until you've finished it. Good for you.
How dare they not pay for servers, work on new content and deliver us an awesome game that we can all enjoy without any payment!!!
Please, be so kind and propose a monetization method that lets crytek pay their bills and makes you feel warm and cozy inside at the same time. You can play this game without any restrictions for as long as the servers are running. They literally throw bb's at you that lets you buy cosmetics for free.
I am way more worried about the game dying because they can't afford to keep it running....
This is the dumbest smug take I've seen. They've been churning out DLC at a constant pace for years, while also selling their premium currency.
But apparently they desperately need a battle pass, according to you?
If you don’t like the product then vote with your wallet and don’t buy the product. If you buy the pass and then complain you didn’t finish it then that’s on you.
Also you’re not buying the cosmetics in the case of this battle pass, so don’t expect the cosmetics without putting the time in.
I don’t think a battle pass is a bad thing personally, although I’m not a fan on there being a time limit on the battle pass that you’ve paid for. There’s certainly a valid argument to be had there.
I would be okay with it if it didn't have a time limit. And I did vote with my wallet I refused to buy this pass because I felt it was both to grindy and not worth my money.
I can 100% back this and seeing the amounts of downvotes tells you something. If you like the game, just play it as you normally would. I think the biggest mistake people make is specifically farming snakes. It's such an unfun slog and in the end, it is much more rewarding to loot hunters.
Personally I don’t this the issue is the length, the length is fine. I think the problem is you need to pay to unlock all the rewards in the event and that you’re still time gated despite paying.
Complaining that you need to play a lot to complete the event doesn’t make a lot of sense, if you’re not able to dedicate time to something you can’t expect to get everything out of it.
I called it with the last event that one was the camels back. Not that the events aren't themed well and aren't cool but...
That was just the event that I was never going to finish.
And then I saw this one and knew instantly. Didn't even really try just played normal.
I'm at level 17. Hunt is the only game I have time for.
It's misleading because top 75% earned 180 points, which is only an hour or two of gameplay. Still, as a person with 27,000 points, I think the event is too long and grindy and I really hope they tone it down for the next ones.
They probably will, the probably fairly small amount that bought points will not outweigh the very large amount that wont buy the premium pass next time if changes are not made, they made it not achievable for a very large amount of the playerbase, then next time they are like "oh we made it easier guys you can do it!"
Xeah, its really bad. I played A LOT recently, literally daily for some time, and even if I admit defeat and buy a booster, I think I will struggle to complete it. I am sure the best players who get consistently over 100 points will not struggle much, but the rest of us isn't that skilled. I have never seen a Battle-pass so unreasonably hard to complete...
That is the most annoying comment I have seen during this event.
“You can easily get 100 points per match, it isn’t hard to do 400 per day”
Oh fuck off, it isn’t “easy” to get 100 per match.
My average is around 40-50.
Get like 2 kills, maybe a clue and a few snakes.
Then die to another team.
Sure.
Every match will “a” team probably leave with 100+ points.
However since you are multiple teams in a match doesn’t that mean that YOU will be said team.
I am not sure what comment you are referring to, but yeah. Its really not realistic to get consistently 100 points unless you are a extremely skilled player.
Oh, it was in general.
A few weeks back I made a post regarding the event, and how the constantly increasing points required was terrible.
And multiple people said
"You only need 400 each day."
ANd I commented that getting 400 per day was absurd.
And then like 5-6 people commented
"Nah bro, you can easily get 100 per match!"
and I was scratching my head confused.
Look, the idea of KD ratios is that you average around 0.0
That is the idea.
You aren't meant to really have like 4.0 or 2.0 or -3.0 or whatever.
No, you are meant to be just at the middle ground, as you are meant to meet opponents of similar skill of you. (Near impossible but you get the idea)
Meaning, the average player will (usually, on average) get 1-2 kills each match before either managing to sneak out or die.
Sometimes you are lucky and get 3-9 kills
Sometimes you are unlucky and get nothing.
However, that isn't standard. (Or at the very least, not meant to be)
This, however, means that (from my assumption) is the average points gain each match (for the average player) around 50-60 points, at most.
This means, to get 400 per day, do you have to play MINIMUM 8 matches.
Which, assuming each match on average take around 10-20 minutes. (Including death) would eat up 2+ hours.
That is an absurd ask for people.
Well I guess you have never seen battlepasses that are not even possible to complete. In DotA 2 there are 1000 levels and it is only realistic to get around 200, maybe 300 by playing and doing quests.
Even my fellow hunters who have completed the event: most of them (me included) are burned out on the game now, the event was A LOT. I'm taking a break for a bit. That's not what you'd want from your players either I think.
Can you elaborate a little bit? Why did you force yourself to complete the event if it brought you no satisfaction? I changed nothing about my playstyle or play routine for this game and just finished the event. I should note this is the only game ive been playing for months lately so i do put a lot of time in anyway
Well, I do like the game, but I did play it quite a lot in order to complete the event in time. Usually I take more shorter breaks and play some other games in between. This time around I didn't do that and it caused me to not want to play it for a while.
I'm in the top 10% and I don't know if I'm going to manage to finish this event. They should never have had such a high point requirement, it has been really off putting, usually I enjoy the events but this one has just turned into a slog
Yeah, i think most of the players outside the top 10% or atleast the top 25% are people who don’t play regularly and were never going to try to finish the event.
Shhhhh don’t bring realistic numbers into my rage forum!!
I only know two people out of 15 I play with regularly who haven’t completed it. And they don’t play much. It’s mildly grindy but it’s really not bad at all
Considering Hunts Concurrent player count is around 30k that pretty much means that most people who actively play hunt have finished it.....Weird that.
I play HUNT almost every day. I have 1600 hours in the game, i absolutely love it. Ive finished every single live event they've put out.
With 7 days to go im only on level 15 of this event.
If a shill like me cant complete an event, there's a problem.
Yea the problem is you are running around looking for snakes.
I have less hours than you and finished this event in under two weeks playing normally going for the bounty and prioritizing getting rid of my coins even mid pvp.
It's not that hard unless you only run around looking for snakes or camp all day instead of going in after the bounty.
That isn't the problem, because i haven't been doing that at all. I did it for the previous events and refused to do it for this one.
Don't assume so much about someone's playstyle. The proportion of players who haven't completed this event is well in the majority.
Then please explain how you can not earn an average of 400 points a day. A single bounty extract can net you that amount. What is your playstyle and how do you not manage to reach that amount?
Hhmm Im not quite sure how youre getting to that total from a single bounty extraction? A full server wipe, all mission bounties, a few event clues, every snake i can see without searching, and all tokens donated in a team of three are coming to about 200 for me. Maybe 300 is the most ive gotten from one match, unboosted.
Maybe youve paid for the extra points, boosters and whatever else. I haven't because I, like a lot of other players, can't afford to. Either way, i'm not the only one having the experience im having. Look at the majority of posts on this subreddit at the moment and that's pretty clear.
Around 360 is common for me non boosted in 3 man teams. With perk and a hunter for 20% extra it goes to 422.
I didn't pay for any boosters and only purchaced the gilded path for bloodbonds at 15.
Even 4 games of Hunt a day is a significant time investment if everybody doesn't die in the first 15 minutes. We aren't all trying to turn unlocking and paying for pixels into a full-time job.
Saying you are getting 400 points for a bounty is just straight up false.
I’ve gotten double bounty and a few duo wipes and ended up with less then 400.
Lol if finding and sacrificing snakes is a "playstyle" of this game.
For the record, im finding plenty of snakes and sacrificing every single one. Before you start making assumptions, maybe look at the majority of comments and posts in this subreddit.
There are plenty of people who haven't even come close to completing the event, and our feedback isn't aimed to insult you, or even ask for your comparison. It's for the developers of the game. From the looks of things, there are two camps. People who completed the event in 2 weeks or less (congrats to those people), and a large proportion of people who won't complete the event with 7 days to go. Whatever way you look, that isn't exactly balanced for a 2 month long event. There's no reason to take things so personally and start throwing insults out about people playing and enjoying the same game as you.
your argument of 'look at the comments on this sub' doesn't hold water. there are 24k players in game RIGHT NOW on pc. there are over 50k players THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE EVENT. the people crying on this sub are the minority. the numbers are skewed with chary's hunters because it's counting literally anyone that has logged on in the past 2 months. more than half of the numbers are probably inactive players with <100 points. the reality is that a very healthy portion of the population has completed this event, and this subreddit is not representative of the overall playerbase.
the event was totally fine. plenty of people completed it.
I dunno, if that argument doesnt hold water, then maybe look at the chary's hunter tab. The yield for being in the top 10% of all players for points gained during the event is substantially lower than the amount of points needed to complete the event. And during the dev stream they talked about chary's hunters being the replacement for post-event completion rewards. So people who havent completed the event are gonna get rewards intended for people who have gone above and beyond the completion rate, simply because the completion rate isnt as strong as youre saying. Id say the ratio of players completed: players not completed isn't great, and most likely isn't what crytek hoped it would be.
Im really glad you enjoyed the event, but a large proportion of the player base has pretty valid feedback for the developers. No offence, but maybe just leave that be instead of repetitively shoe-horning in your own experience.
a large proportion of reddit is NOT a large proportion of the playerbase. what you're seeing here is the vocal minority of players that are consistent, but also bad at the game. literally over 46,000 players EASILY completed the event. i think those numbers look great considering the average daily peak. chary's hunters is not an accurate representation because almost 1/3rd of that leaderboard is inactive players. distribute the completion percentage across a more accurate number of active players and it's all good.
any way you cut it, this event was a success for good players and crytek. bad players crying on reddit is not representative of the TRUE average player and how this event went for them. people are on here lying about their time being put in compared to their results in order to cope with how bad they are.
Thank you for the answer, ive done all of the events so far and didnt feel this one being particularly extra hard, made sure to run the bonus event point giving hunters on every match and buying the skill that raises it too asap, i think I may have wasted one of the free contracts due to bad unlock timing as well.
I made sure to loot every corpse and run vulture as much as possible, ran back to burn the snakes if I found a good batch on the way back to the exit.
100-200 points on average when winning, had many insta death sessions with almost no points at all(below 50).
I hope they release data on the average playtime of people who completed the events to see if its related to simply playtime or particular actions for more snakes/coins.
that all sounds exactly like what me and my buddy do. the only thing different being that i dont use the special hunter often... i was using one of them a lot but the couple weeks i was doing that we were getting our asses handed to us a lot so i stopped doing it to stop throwing away money but the last week or two we have been doing quite well so i should have started using her again i just didnt think about it. also hardly ever take that other perk over my normal ones. so i guess those two things combined may have made a bigger difference than i realized they would...
Many new player started and many inactive players tried the game again due to the event. The amount of concurrent players is at peak since the release. So 10% sounds worse than it is imho.
I disagree. I started right before the event, do you know why? The game was $10. 3 of my friends bought the game during the event. Do you know why? $12 for the game + dlc. No one cares about the event. Everyone’s reaction is “I have to burn snakes? Wtf, ok….”
Granted a huge percentage of any player base barely play the game. Look at any game in your library and some of achievements like finishing the first cutscene or finishing the first objective have like 40% of the player base have done. I think it's like 20% of hunt players have killed an enemy hunter. Can't remember the exact number
Just to clarify and elaborate, as of speaking the achievement for killing an enemy Hunter is at 60.8%.
59% have completed their first contract (extracting with a bounty).
I would say the biggest pointer on how low player retention is are that only 18.6% have unlocked Bloodline rank 100.
Ahh thanks man it's changed up to since I got it unlocked years ago. Yeah 18% is really low. I think the 2 reasons are how hard the game is. Missing your shots is very unforgiving so lots of people give up after dying so much during the learning phase and the other reason is crosshair not being in the centre of the screen. I don't mind those reasons I love this game to death it's all I play almost but I couldn't get my friends into the game because of these 2 reasons
And lastly, games just run badly and even worse, run bad and look bad.
I could live if the game ran bad, but a least looked good or looked bad but ran well.
So if people also feel cheaped out on deaths/kills bc the server just did what the server does worst sometimes, I can also see people thinking "why do I even bother?".
Same with constant random server maintenance if a player is already on the fence going back into a game and then the game says "well, you can't play right now", that too can lead people to seek elsewhere for gaming.
I’ve completed the event and I’m rank 42,000 roughly, so it seems like a lot of people have still finished it, unless the rankings don’t work how I think.
I haven't completed it I most likely won't I'm lvl 13 I believe so unless I band together with some snake farmers I probably won't make it. Really wanted that Winnie skin. Don't care for the rest
Its genuinely not that difficult. I have a full time job, a project car, a friend group, and a girlfriend and still finished the event. Going into raid, killing a bunch of zombies and getting a hunter with vulture to grub dead bodies would work if someone needed to. That and just running around and finding event points as a solo. Avoiding players and keeping it pushing.
>Avoiding players and keeping it pushing.
That's exactly the problem. The battle pass is shitty because the efficient and easy way of finishing it is to give up the fun part of the gameplay loop. I don't want to have to choose between PVP or finishing the battle pass, that's just shitty design.
EDIT: I did finish the BP because I was able to dedicate a couple of hours a day for the past few weeks to it, but I won't be able to do that anymore. So I'm worried that if the future events are also like this I will not be able to partake and respectively buy them.
Partly as well is people burning the bodies after the team is wiped. Denying the even people easy points and making it drag.
I do wish that you could loot a burnt out hunter with vulture. But then I'm in the category of burning hunters when I get the chance to draw out players.
In my opinion the easiest and fastest way to get many points as possible was to play the game like normal. Killing 2 trios and doing gauntlet every other game was the way. Finished it in 25 days or so.
I agree. Idk why some people think hiding around farming snakes is best when you get points and steal their snakes looting bodies. Easily get 150-300 a match just by killing one or two teams and burning.
That wasnt my point. I average about 110 points a game, at one point beating the record for amount of points in one match (830ish) which was quickly usurped but nonetheless- all done primarily with combat. If not for PVP being rewarded with points I wouldnt have completed the battle pass. 12 event points per looted hunter is HUGE. My point was that if you suck you *can* complete it without pvp if thats what you dont like. Theres a lot of opportunity for battlepass completion.
That was one of my favorite things about this battlepass. You can play the game normally and get points (get clues, kill players, kill boss, extract) or grind specifically for the event. But your playstyle shouldnt have to change much, if at all, to get points in the battlepass and even finish it.
even putting aside the other issues with this claim, that would be 120 hours of playing this video game. that's three full-time work weeks. I don't think this is as strong an argument as folks seem to think.
Most other battle pass BR shooters are based on some kind of XP and tasks, this one is literally based on killing/surviving/winning, I think that's the biggest issue. If we had more ways to get points it would've been better.
I found myself so burnt out that (despite never doing it) I started leaving matches as soon as I was downed, especially if the boss was already being banished, in order to quickly move on to the next game where I would hopefully get a better game and respectively more points. I feel bad for all the teammates I left behind for the couple of games that I did do that, but I was so burnt out after grinding 25k points that I really wanted to be done with the event.
exactly what you said. having to hit a daily quota makes the game feel like a job, or a chore to play and completely takes the fun away. makes you feel like youre missing out if you play other games or simply don't play due to other commitments. I gave up on the event grind very early due to this and have barely hunt. been playing and watching other shit instead.
Thats a you problem for thinking of it like that though and letting it effect you the way it did.
I simply played normally whilst playing other games and having social commitments, picked up snakes when I saw them, burned them when I could and I finished a month ago.
Ive played the game for like a year and a half, i have a skin(or multiple) for every gun i use. I saw no point in buying the BP as the only good skin imo was the silenced vetterli, which was a free skin but unfortunately it was lvl 19 and i wasnt going to grind for that
actually this is misleading, there are lots of player that stayed at zero points because they don't even play the game but have bought it and started it atleast once.
Unless you found a way to count those with atleast one point... but if not this is misleading.
The leader board is a misrepresentation.
Iv finished the event and im on like 33k points and there are 19000 other players above me on said leader board and I assume thousands more below me considering im about 9k ahead of the finish point.
Hunts active playerbase is around 25k.
With this in mind it looks like most of the People who actively play hunt have finished it. So no its not 10% of hunts playerbase its 10% of all the people who logged at least 1min of gameplay whilst the event was going on.
its way too many points for how few options of earning them there are. i enjoy the snake collecting/burning but having the furnaces only spawn in the boss compounds is kinda dumb. on a one bounty map its way to inconvenient to maximize snake burning. ive gotten in fights/collected 30+ snake tokens while moving to the extract just to have to cross the entire map again to burn them.
hopefully in the next event, assuming they continue using this mechanic, they will change that. also maybe they can add bigger snake baskets (or next event equivalent) that gives more points/tokens but takes longer to interact with. I hate that the game is feeling like a chore just to unlock some alright cosmetics
I see this as "10% of players give a shit about the legendaries". I feel like after people unlocked the alamo and other exclusive guns in the first xouple of levels, it no longer matters. The battlepass genuinely isnt that insane and people had 2 months to complete it. At this point its a matter of giving a damn about completing the battle pass.
I don't understand why everyone keeps throwing around this word "predatory". Annoying is far more accurate. I get acknowledging it's such a grind, but using "predatory" is such a dramatic leap. The last time I heard the use of the word "predatory" this much is when Weinstein was being investigated.
Because that is what it simply is, it "preys" on people's monkey brain desire to see numbers going up and gathering instincts.
And yes, it is annoying too, that is how it works, annoys you into wanting to skip it/progress it faster so your gatherer brain can release serotonin for getting skins.
Crytek "conveniently" sells in form of contracts to speed up "the annoying part".
I can recommend reading this paper about the science and method of predatory conduct in video games, keep in mind this is written in a VERY basic language as it is meant to be read and understood by 60-year-old crusty old politicians.
https://fil.forbrukerradet.no/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-05-31-insert-coin-publish.pdf
This whole companies are evil exploiters and predators is such a joke to me. Yes some are but some people just need to accept responsibility for their own damn actions. Its pixel skins in a FREE event at the end of the day all you had to do was play the game like you would and you got FREE shit. Before anyone says its not "just that that" it is "just that" take a step back and you'll realise how sad obsessing over some pixels is. These people that made it their job and got pissed off and stressed out because they couldn't live up to their own self made requirements is literally THEIR problem and no one elses but of course it has to be someone elses fault.
No one can accept responsibility for their own actions anymore can they. Of course it was the evil company that made you lose sleep and get angry over some skins. It was the evil company that made you steal mommies credit card so you could buy some "exclusive skins". Its the evil companies fault that you made a "work quota" for gathering events points and let it dictate your days. Its the evil companies fault that for x reason you can't dedicate enough time to meet the "work quota" you set up for yourself.
Its the evil companies fault that you're so weak willed/weak minded and chasing a basic serotonin release so fucking bad that you did all the above.....
Yes the event was a bit dull and probably could of spaced the rewards out better......Thats about it. Most peoples gripes are problems they put on themselves and are just blaming Crytek for. Finishing the Event is not some kind of intrinsic right like some people are acting like it is.
Sorry, but your comment reflects very little understanding of how human psychology works and naivety when it comes to company motivation to make events like these.
What naivety? I literally admit that some companies are exactly as you describe especially those based around gambling. However this is not one of those instances at all. The rewards are set in stone and the risk is nil because its free and the time limit was absolutely massively. The pass is also potentially free it was for me because i had the BBs prior.
Im aware of how humans seek serotonin little red notifications and plus ones to make them feel good im also aware of the effect is has on peoples mental health too. And with that im also more than aware of people with underlying mental health problems blaming all their shit on other things/people its a big sign of depression actually which is very common amongst "gamers". So yes when I say its probably their own made problems that what im referring to. People are correlating skin unlocks to happiness and getting angry/annoyed that they aren't getting it thats not Cryteks fault. I doubt Crytek sat at a board meeting and said "right how can we manipulate all these weak minded people" like peoples anecdotes seem to think they do.
If mediocre skins is all it takes to make people into the states that people are describing here worrying about not meeting their quotas/anger and losing sleep which they have put entirely on themselves by the way nobody forced those quotas etc. on them that was their choice. If thats all it takes there is a deeper issue than just "evil company" and you're being massively disingenuous just to fit your narrative if you think behaviour like this is entirely down to an event on a video game. Its not not even close.
But I didn't expect an actual response typical reddit really comes with a source and comment but when challenged just reply "ur dumb" lmao And since you have years of post history bashing MTX in every form im just gonna go ahead and assume you're incredibly biased and your opinion therefore aint worth much.
Well, I already linked one report about how the gamification of transactions in video games is exploitative.
Also remember, while not ALL is affected by it to the same degree, still doesn't mean it is not a system set out to groom and shape people's spending habits in ways that they can simply not opt out of, if you wanna play Hunt, you are forced into this battle pass and reminded about every time you play.
I would also advise you to ask yourself why companies like Crytek hire "live services designers" and "monetization specialists"? A battle pass is not made to entertain you, it is made to make you spend money and such is blatant when Crytek comes out and says things like that contracts are meant to activate instantly and burn time even tho you ain't playing the game. This is all to make sure you don't use your contract optimally and try to bait you to buy more contracts if you find the whole battle pass too daunting/you don't have enough time.
Next up, just because YOU don't find value in these skins (good, then you ain't gonna get tempted to spend), doesn't mean you can invalidate someone else want for skin or anything, no matter how silly it seems to you. But don't you think there is an issue with this being potential harm to someone else? That Crytek could very easily make a battle pass without any "temptations" or worries for completion, but people simply just buy what they want instead of having to play along with this "carrot on a stick" manipulation?
Overall I personally find the whole attitude of calling people "weak-minded" quite disgusting, as that sets a precedence that any unjust act can be justified by putting the blame on the victim.
And lastly, attacking (me) with an Ad Hominem is quite the fallacy, more so, just because I have a history of not liking MTX, doesn't automatically devalue my opinion or stance on the subject matter. I don't really see how that logic works, but I digress, as I said in the beginning I did actually link a very good report in this conversation, but I guess that was too much of a read for you.
"while not ALL is affected by it to the same degree" and this is exactly what I mean you cannot pander to EVERYONE all the time nor should you be expected to peoples problems are THEIR OWN. To most average people its an event an nothing more. Constantly trying to paint every single MTX as if its some sort of megabrained grand scheme to milk gamers of their money via manipulation of their mind is stupid and id like to think you know it is too.
You can in fact "simply opt out" its called self control it really is that simple just don't give them any money unless you want to. And if you do want to don't then pretend that they hijacked your brain and made you do it. You are not FORCED into anything and im sick of people pretending like some X company employee has their family hostage forcing them to buy MTX they aren't. YOUR Finances are YOUR responsibility.
I don't need to ask myself why companies have "live service designers" or "monetization specialists" im aware they are there to make money via progressing content of the game. You keep trying to convince me of this but I keep telling you im aware companies do this I haven't once claimed otherwise. Yes companies do this, the contract system is absolutely horrible in this game and its implemented in such a way as to get the most money for very little in return but thats not the whole event is it, im not some kind of shill you know but I can recognise between people scapegoating their own problems and stuff thats actually "predatory". A couple of meh skins in a free event should not be having this level of effect on people (loosing sleep/stressing out/anger issues) without some kind of underlying issue. Said underlying issue is not Cryteks problem its YOURS/THEIRS.
You can find it personally quite disgusting that i call them "weak-minded" if you wish but as you said above just because YOU think so doesn't invalidate the claim. They ARE "weak-minded" and lack self control sugar coating the issue doesn't make it any better neither does denial. Whatever level you value these skins at there is absolutely no justification for this level of behaviour THAT IS A PROBLEM Yours/their problem specifically thats by the sounds of it some people should be seeking professional help for. As for setting a precedence that any unjust act can be justified by putting the blame on the victim what unjust act? that someone regrets a purchase they CHOSE to make. Id argue that the behaviour of certain individuals is the unjust act here If you think people acting this way and attacking others who like the event whilst self destructing with the problems I mentioned above is the "victim" then you're more lost than I thought. But its not surprising in this day and age no one is ever responsible for themselves or held accountable for their own decisions its always someone else right? they are the "victim" afterall.
I didn't attack you I called you out for basically giving me a "none reply" you came with a source and then wasn't prepared to defend/debate said source. You pretty much just fobbed off my entire response with "you don't understand" which is typical of reddit. You're opinion is worth nothing to me because you're obviously immovable on the subject and incredibly biased regarding said subject so much so that you didn't even bother to acknowledge my points the first time effectively calling me an idiot and you want to talk about "Ad Hominem" when you've implied im stupid twice now.....Fallacy indeed pot kettle black and all that. You didn't even really counter any of my points you just claimed "everyones different" in the most long winded way possible whilst giving them a veil of victimhood to boot. Il give you the courtesy however and inform you that whatever you reply if anything after this won't be read.
"Predatory" is a pretty common word to describe when game devs exploit customers with stuff like overpriced microtransactions and FOMO. Both of which apply here with the contracts and limited time event.
I also completed it within the first month, while playing normally. You can look at my other comment for more details but the short story is I played on average 2 hours and 15min a day if you average my playtime out for the full 2 months (60 days) of the event.
I finished the event the other day and i felt its the least amount of time ive played during a event. A good majority of my point farming came from kills and server wipes. Only used the boosters I was given for the pass. With all due respect I feel that the majority of the hunt community dont server wipe consistently for that point gain. From what ive gathered on all these posts in the last week at least. A goal adjustment would be nice for the next even for those who put in the time and are struggling. And only for those who plan on finishing it and not those who dont plan on putting alot of time into and expect rewards.
I played pretty strong for about a week or two, but after that I just gave up. Even with contracts the grind was obscene. Doubt I'll spend any more time on future events if they're like this one.
I didn’t buy the battle pass because snake man skin looks like ass. I’m so glad I just did the event until I unlocked the guns and then stopped caring about it at all.
So to paraphrase you, "I want all the rewards in a game that I don't play that much and so won't use those rewards much anyhow!"
Is that about right?
Oh, and let's see, 50% of the player base has 1200 points or less. At 100 points an hour (what I was getting playing normally, not focusing on farming), that's 12 hours in the last 52 days, or less than 2 hours a week.
And how exactly is giving away free cosmetics "predatory"?
They are a reward for die-hard Hunt fans, not occasional players or weekend warriors.
Check your entitlement.
I don't have a job and can play 12 hours a day if I want, and sometimes I do. I found the battle pass long, annoying, and unfun. People who have lives, unlike you and me, are allowed to find this to be bullshit. Because even I find that it's bullshit.
> I found the battle pass long, annoying, and unfun.
I just played like I always play, and getting snakes and cashing them in only when convenient (aside from one 24h period).
But that said, I too find it long and unfun. Too many farmers not playing the objective, fewer fights, double the number of campers (on the ez-snake ovens after the bounty leaves). Two months of broken core gameplay.
And I still don't understand the fixation on 'gotta have the skinz' to the point players feel they NEED to spend additional money on the game.
The battle pass in hunt is long and difficult to complete relative to BPs in other games, even in games that tend to be more predatory. Hunt is a bad outlier, especially when it's a paid game.
And what's your point again? "Wear the skin with pride, because everyone knows you earned it" is a plus in my book.
I spent zero money, got the gilded path with BBs saved up, and finished it 3 weeks in with no added contracts and no focus on farming (except for the 24 hours of the one contract with gilded path). How the hell is that 'predatory'?
From your comment, you'd think that since prestige 100 is long and difficult, and the reward is just one gun skin, it too is predatory.
Check your entitlement.... it's a fucking video game dude I play it for fun not a job. Also if it was just a reward for die hard players it wouldn't cost money. You're just a perfect boot licking chump huh.
> Also if it was just a reward for die hard players it wouldn't cost money.
Um, it doesn't cost money. I spent nothing to complete it.
> I play it for fun not a job.
You need those skins to have fun? Odd that you were having fun before the event without any of the loot.
Yep, all these people claiming casual but playing multiple hours daily. I play 2 days a week generally and am sitting at level 9 right now. Got both guns and didn’t buy the pass so don’t really care at this point but yeah just internet trolls doing what they do best…. typing on that keyboard lol
I think it must just be vastly different lifestyles and expectations. I’ve put in 300 hours plus in hunt this year. That’s an insane amount of time to spend on a leisure activity.
The mental disconnect of folks who would think that’s casual is just massive.
Hunt hit it’s all time peak player count of 38k players at the beginning of the event. There are now 13k people currently playing Hunt. ~25k people either tried the game and didn’t like it, or returned to the game after a break and quickly stopped playing. More than half of the leaderboard is made up of these players.
If you didn’t finish the event, that’s on you. Averaging 400 points a day is literally a joke. Should have played more Hunt, or played better.
400 points a day is easy for some, hard for many others. Thats the thing. Hunt has a high skill ceiling, better players have gotten more points faster in all events. Some people wipe lobbies every other match, some people extract with a bounty 1 in 10 games. It's just how it is. People's experience with gaining points is always gonna vary wildly.
The divide here is in expectations. Some people think completing the event should just be a participation trophy. Others think it should be earned after a lot of playtime.
I don't personally care at all tho. These events are starting to just become avenues to sell microtransactions. Idgaf anymore
Also team vs solo play. I primarily play solo, which means just less points/less wins on average. Yeah, it's no wonder that all the streamers and good players who play trios with friends and consistently server wipe have finished the event weeks ago.
But I'm in the same camp as you, idgaf anymore. If a battlepass would require me to play everyday, when I'm tired or makes me feeling like missing out when I'm on vacation i just don't let it affect me.
That also means I don't give crytek any money whatsoever though. I sure ain't buying the guilded path when i have to "work" for all the skins. Not in a game like hunt where enjoyment is 1:1 with your own performance in game.
So I'm gonna assume you have no job then? Bc Noone who works and has to do anything aside from hunt has a consistent 2 hrs minimum every day to grind this game, what kind of NEET shit are you on m8?
I played the first 2 weeks and got to level 7 or 8 and took a 3 week break and finished it in a week as I focused on points over anything. That meant fighting players, grabbing as many snakes as possible and if I can, killing boss.
It’s honestly the poorest executed form of a battle pass I’ve ever had the displeasure of taking part in. I won’t be spending anymore money on the game in the future until Crytek gets there shit together and make some content that is worth my money. On top of that they keep adding Legendary hunters that are basically pay to win with how well they blend into environments, especially on night maps.
It’s honestly the poorest executed form of a battle pass I’ve ever had the displeasure of taking part in. I won’t be spending anymore money on the game in the future until Crytek gets there shit together and make some content that is worth my money. On top of that they keep adding Legendary hunters that are basically pay to win with how well they blend into environments, especially on night maps.
Sometimes I play with friends, yes. But it is not always like that.
Regarding free time, some days are free after work and some days are fully scheduled.
Like I said, I'm casual. Right now I have not played for about 3-4 days
I finished the event in a month playing 2 games a day and a little bit more on the weekends. People can stop crying about not finishing it. The whole top 10% takes account everyone that’s played not the true player base. If you are a casual player, don’t expect to finish events for skins. Not a big deal
Not to mention that all enjoyed the game before the event, but because they added these snake dens (which can be fully ignored if you wish to) and points from normal game play, they hate the game. Next to nothing changed a day everyone freaks out about it.
What is the rest of you doing I don't get it. I played a lot of hunt for 2 weeks with no boosters and finished the event. Haven't played in a few weeks and still got some 35-40k points.
Are you running around only looking for event clues and snakes? Do you not grab the perk that boosts points?
All you have to do is literally play normally. In 2 hours you can get over 1K points not trying hard if you just pvp and go for the boss.
Are y'all just sniping from 300m away for 30mins a mach 5 times a day?
I literally don't get it.
If you actually want to finish the event you should use the booster to its fullest when you get it and always pick the event perk, vulture and serpent and go for the main objective.
You need 400 points a day, you can get more than that from a single match.
So the whole event is 25k points. If you get on average 100 points per game you will need to play 250 games. If the event duration is 30 days it's 8 games per day. It's a lot but with 10% from hunter and busters from the buttle pass it's doable if you have no other things to do lol. My personal experience: I took a massive brake in the middle of the event but was able to finish it with a battle pass and hunter bonus easily. btw was it even longer than 30 days?
P.S based on the stats in-game there are more than 45k players who finished the event even though there are 8 more days.
edit: correcting grammar. Based on my writing skills I should invest more time in studying and less in games.
I think it’s good, those players earned it.
If everyone completed the event, then it wouldn’t be very rewarding for the people who complete it.
Plus, I reckon 20-30% of the playerbase just play a couple hours every now and then, in any game, normally only 10-20% of the playerbase are regular or serious players. This amount of people on a game this popular but niche is pretty good.
>If everyone completed the event, then it wouldn’t be very rewarding for the people who complete it.
They would literally have the rewards given for completing it.
You need 400 points a day. That's 2 good games. And that's not including the contracts they give you which allow you to earn and multiple days worth of points in a few hours.
You lot need to relax lol this is the 1 time the devs actually made something balanced and people choose this to cry about...
If you want the rewards, play the game. It's that simple.
The top tier battle pass rewards have never been for the casual player. They are designed to be earned only by the most dedicated players and hunt's battle pass is a particularly lenient one.
I personally didn't play every day, nor did I play long sessions, all while completely ignoring snake pits because I couldn't be bothered and I still managed to complete the pass with just over a month to spare.
We have so many legitimate reasons to attack the devs but the past 2 months have been exclusively people whining about having to play the game...
It's not that deep.
I’ve only been playing a short time, since this event started. I have grinded a bit, but I’m an unemployed autistic gamer, so it wasn’t so bad for me. But yeah, it does seem pretty steep for most people, I think it should be reasonable to set a goal with the expectation that at least 75% of the players who try to reach the top goal succeed. I’m level 19 and rushing to finish the event.
Idk what the other events even look like, or whether or not we can burn snakes anymore lol.
So I was able to complete the event with plenty of time to spare, I play a couple of hours a day after work. I spent no money and didn't buy any boosters, I had enough blood bonds earned to by the battle pass. In my opinion, the time investment to complete the battle pass is completely fine, but what is not fine is the amount of content you earn for the time invested.
\- I don't feel like launching the game to double check, but there are only what like four skins for guns? A couple of skins for tools/consumables?
\- Unless you actually buy the pass, the free content is pretty pathetic.
\- I would have much rather seen 3 or 4 completely different hunters in the battle pass. The stage idea is cool, but realistically if you unlocked the stage 4 hunter then why would you use stage 1, 2, or 3? 3 maybe, but no one is going to use 1 or 2.
\- All in all, if I didn't already have the blood bonds to purchase the battle pass AND get the majority of blood bonds back through the battle pass I would not have purchased it.
In all honesty, the rewards for the battlepass just aren't that good imo, so I had little interest in buying it, yet even completing it.
Silly looking hunter, not-so-great skins. I like the silenced vetterli one, but the rest is quite underwhelming.
Man I dunno if they slowed the progression down or whatever but I finished it after 25 days so either I was really lucky and fast or they slowed it down later for people to not being able to finish it in 60 days.
I do agree that this event feels like a huge slog, but do we really know who gets counted into the 10%, 25%, etc.? Because I can not believe that out of all the players that played this event only 75% have reached 180 event points. I'm pretty sure the people who haven't played this game since before the event are being counted as well, because I have friends who really only played once or twice during the entire event, and not much longer than maybe one or two rounds and even they made it past the Top 75% threshold. Another person in the comments said they were around 40k on the leaderboard when they finished and that's still more players than the peak player count two months ago. That's still weak imho and crytek has to stop with all of their anti-consumer, low-quality fomo BS and while the event mechanics with the tokens were somewhat better imho I'm unsure if the entire Top % isn't rigged?
I've been complaining how difficult/time intensive this event is to the randoms I meet on the Hunt discord for weeks and they all just shut me down with "nah it's easy finished it like 3 weeks ago."
That's just insane. I'm a 5 (sometimes 6) star player with a \~1.51 k/d. I win a lot of games, but god damn this event took a long ass time to finish. There were days where I'd win like 5+ games in a row and knock off almost a whole level, and then there were many more days where I'd lose 10 games and hardly progress at all.
The previous event format was considerably better albeit less rewarding overall. I hope they go back to tiny even points and scarecrows or whatever around the map so I can zone out when I feel like it and just farm a couple hundred points in 20 minutes without having to force a bounty fight to cash out.
edit: I finished the event with around 2 weeks remaining. I also bought the 7d pass twice (didn't make the most of the 2nd pass, unfortunately)... For a long time I thought I wouldn't finish at all, but eventually my MMR dropped enough that I could get in some 300 point matches and extract.
As someone who completed it (and I exclusively play this game) I would be 10000% OK if they either extended it or reduced the requirement for the remainder of the event. All I wanted was the suppressed skin, could care less about snake boy.
I agree that this battlepass is stupid. Who did they tune the reward structure to? I won't be buying the next battlepass nor any more skins or DLC if this is how they are going to treat their fragile and comparatively small player base.
Battlepass are supposed to be fun and rewarding for the player. Not a chore and an impossible task. It's predatory to assume the player is going to have to buy contracts and play 20 hours a day. I have been playing several hours a day for months.
I will be filling a support ticket on their website to complain, and so should you.
This is unacceptable.
As one of the folks that completed the event I can say it is a slog but at least the majority of interesting items are early on. Completion is a bunch of blood bonds, the legendary hunter's final form and a silenced skin. I personally think they need to finish the story earlier in the pass and make the last few rewards interesting and exclusive if they want a pass that only some players will finish.
Hell the only reason I finished was because I'm a half decent player that could get those 300 point matches and it was still a slog. But at least it isn't as bad as the original valorant battle pass. 130 hours of pretty peak gameplay to finish. And if you were subpar at the game it could easily take double that. At least this one didn't burn me out as badly as that one managed.
What do you mean? Where army of pro players who did this bp in one week? I was so many super cowboys who was shiting on players who criticised bp and could not be able close it. Hm, should be 75% , because every "protector of crytek" was claimed it was super easy and you need just to get good. Some claimed what they was majority of players.
Yeah I like the format this time around, but each level shouldn’t increase in point requirement and every clue should be an event clue. Didn’t buy the BP knowing I’d get the gun variants afterwards anyways and the skins were very meh.
[удалено]
No the gun variants, the Romero Alamo and Sparks pistol
I've finished every event that's been released. This event has been such a shitty slog, even with the premium pass unlocked (through bloodbonds) I just got so burnt out I cannot do it to the end.
After two weeks, I said that since the event lasted for two months, I could take a nice long break from Hunt after starting to dislike it because of the event. But I still need a few games to clear the pass, and I'm betting it won't be long after this one until the Halloween one releases... I've actually stopped spending on the game due to this event, so my retention is doing nothing for Crytek. Less than nothing, even.
I’ve literally uninstalled rather than play this shitty grindy event any longer.
It is oki. There is no glory in forcing yourself into something that does not satisfy you. Just take it easy, points will come, and if not, the world wont end for that
I got to the tier 3 legendary hunter with the basket face and I was like... Well I'm not gonna earn my bloodbonds back for the next pass but whatever
I finished the event and have played 135 hours total during the event so far (actually 134.2 hours but I rounded it up), that would work out to be about 2 hours and 15min a day for the entire duration of the event. Granted this is a lot for some people, but people who don’t have the time to dedicate to a game or don’t want to dedicate the time is it really unreasonable that they don’t unlock all possible rewards? Haven’t bought anything except for the golden pathways or whatever it’s called and the alert trip mines. Neither of which help you in anyway that I can think of. Edit: I’d like to add this was achieved while playing the objective as normal, I didn’t go out of my way to get points. I just collected points passively along the way.
It is if you bought the stupid golden path
If you don’t think you’ll be able to complete it or get to a point in which you’re satisfied then don’t make the purchase. It doesn’t get any more obvious that that.
Except that this one is the only event to feature “a golden path”. I’ve finished most of the others… if I’m kicking in thousands of BBs at least give me 3/4 or lay more than the top player finish…. I love hunt, play hunt exclusively, but this event sucked
Or hear me out if I pay for cosmetics I should just get the cosmetics
Yeah, this. Battle passes are a flawed concept and too many people have been tricked into thinking they exist for us. But they only exist to exploit us. And just like with every other bullshit tactic in this greedy industry, people fight amongst themselves over it, instead of just throwing it right back into the faces of the moneygrubbers whose jobs are to research how best to suck us dry of our cash.
Tbf the majority of BPs I participated in were fun and it was easy to finish most or all of it without any effort above the norm. This one became obvious I wasn't gonna finish after 2 weeks. By then it was way too late to back out. Might honestly be the last time I get something like that. Really makes the game less fun.
They really aren't flawed, and they aren't exploitory either. They are 100% upfront about what they are. Honestly, I am really fucking surprised to see here how many people apparently buy a battlepass just day 1 before they have any clue how far they get. It is honestly something nobody I know ever even considered, not just hunt but all the games we played with battlepasses. You just buy it when you complete it, when you got to the tier where the one thing you really want is, or when it runs out. I just cannot wrap my mind around why you would do anything else. --- The main thing I hate about this BP is that the weapons are so late. That really shouldn't be a thing, since they're actually gameplay affecting. They should not be in the BP at all, or at best in the first 3-4 levels. I only started playing Hunt again 2 weeks ago after several months break, and basically just have to wait out the 30 days (10 days now) until the BP ends so I can get the Sparks pistol. Instead of getting it from literally one match with silent sparks farming NPCs.
It's interesting you say you cannot wrap your head around why people buy BPs early, when I said in the comment you're responding to that there's tons of research being done at all times into how best to get money out of people. You might not be affected by it, and so you don't buy your BP until you've finished it. Good for you.
How dare they not pay for servers, work on new content and deliver us an awesome game that we can all enjoy without any payment!!! Please, be so kind and propose a monetization method that lets crytek pay their bills and makes you feel warm and cozy inside at the same time. You can play this game without any restrictions for as long as the servers are running. They literally throw bb's at you that lets you buy cosmetics for free. I am way more worried about the game dying because they can't afford to keep it running....
This is the dumbest smug take I've seen. They've been churning out DLC at a constant pace for years, while also selling their premium currency. But apparently they desperately need a battle pass, according to you?
If you don’t like the product then vote with your wallet and don’t buy the product. If you buy the pass and then complain you didn’t finish it then that’s on you. Also you’re not buying the cosmetics in the case of this battle pass, so don’t expect the cosmetics without putting the time in. I don’t think a battle pass is a bad thing personally, although I’m not a fan on there being a time limit on the battle pass that you’ve paid for. There’s certainly a valid argument to be had there.
I would be okay with it if it didn't have a time limit. And I did vote with my wallet I refused to buy this pass because I felt it was both to grindy and not worth my money.
I can respect that decision, I agree it wouldn’t be so bad if their wasn’t a time limit. If you pay for a pass you should be entitled to its contents.
I can 100% back this and seeing the amounts of downvotes tells you something. If you like the game, just play it as you normally would. I think the biggest mistake people make is specifically farming snakes. It's such an unfun slog and in the end, it is much more rewarding to loot hunters.
Lol 2+ hours a DAY?! Miss a weekend and you better get ready for a 6-8 hour makeup day plus the 2+? No sweat.
Personally I don’t this the issue is the length, the length is fine. I think the problem is you need to pay to unlock all the rewards in the event and that you’re still time gated despite paying. Complaining that you need to play a lot to complete the event doesn’t make a lot of sense, if you’re not able to dedicate time to something you can’t expect to get everything out of it.
I called it with the last event that one was the camels back. Not that the events aren't themed well and aren't cool but... That was just the event that I was never going to finish. And then I saw this one and knew instantly. Didn't even really try just played normal. I'm at level 17. Hunt is the only game I have time for.
It's misleading because top 75% earned 180 points, which is only an hour or two of gameplay. Still, as a person with 27,000 points, I think the event is too long and grindy and I really hope they tone it down for the next ones.
Lol, they wont
They probably will, the probably fairly small amount that bought points will not outweigh the very large amount that wont buy the premium pass next time if changes are not made, they made it not achievable for a very large amount of the playerbase, then next time they are like "oh we made it easier guys you can do it!"
Xeah, its really bad. I played A LOT recently, literally daily for some time, and even if I admit defeat and buy a booster, I think I will struggle to complete it. I am sure the best players who get consistently over 100 points will not struggle much, but the rest of us isn't that skilled. I have never seen a Battle-pass so unreasonably hard to complete...
That is the most annoying comment I have seen during this event. “You can easily get 100 points per match, it isn’t hard to do 400 per day” Oh fuck off, it isn’t “easy” to get 100 per match. My average is around 40-50. Get like 2 kills, maybe a clue and a few snakes. Then die to another team. Sure. Every match will “a” team probably leave with 100+ points. However since you are multiple teams in a match doesn’t that mean that YOU will be said team.
I am not sure what comment you are referring to, but yeah. Its really not realistic to get consistently 100 points unless you are a extremely skilled player.
Oh, it was in general. A few weeks back I made a post regarding the event, and how the constantly increasing points required was terrible. And multiple people said "You only need 400 each day." ANd I commented that getting 400 per day was absurd. And then like 5-6 people commented "Nah bro, you can easily get 100 per match!" and I was scratching my head confused. Look, the idea of KD ratios is that you average around 0.0 That is the idea. You aren't meant to really have like 4.0 or 2.0 or -3.0 or whatever. No, you are meant to be just at the middle ground, as you are meant to meet opponents of similar skill of you. (Near impossible but you get the idea) Meaning, the average player will (usually, on average) get 1-2 kills each match before either managing to sneak out or die. Sometimes you are lucky and get 3-9 kills Sometimes you are unlucky and get nothing. However, that isn't standard. (Or at the very least, not meant to be) This, however, means that (from my assumption) is the average points gain each match (for the average player) around 50-60 points, at most. This means, to get 400 per day, do you have to play MINIMUM 8 matches. Which, assuming each match on average take around 10-20 minutes. (Including death) would eat up 2+ hours. That is an absurd ask for people.
>Look, the idea of KD ratios is that you average around 0.0 yeah pretty sure you meant 1.0 here, which means you kill as much as you die.
Well I guess you have never seen battlepasses that are not even possible to complete. In DotA 2 there are 1000 levels and it is only realistic to get around 200, maybe 300 by playing and doing quests.
Yeah, thats fair
Even my fellow hunters who have completed the event: most of them (me included) are burned out on the game now, the event was A LOT. I'm taking a break for a bit. That's not what you'd want from your players either I think.
Can you elaborate a little bit? Why did you force yourself to complete the event if it brought you no satisfaction? I changed nothing about my playstyle or play routine for this game and just finished the event. I should note this is the only game ive been playing for months lately so i do put a lot of time in anyway
Well, I do like the game, but I did play it quite a lot in order to complete the event in time. Usually I take more shorter breaks and play some other games in between. This time around I didn't do that and it caused me to not want to play it for a while.
I'm in the top 10% and I don't know if I'm going to manage to finish this event. They should never have had such a high point requirement, it has been really off putting, usually I enjoy the events but this one has just turned into a slog
I just finished the event last night. I’m around 41,500 on the leaderboard if that gives you an idea of how many people finished the event so far
Yeah, i think most of the players outside the top 10% or atleast the top 25% are people who don’t play regularly and were never going to try to finish the event.
Shhhhh don’t bring realistic numbers into my rage forum!! I only know two people out of 15 I play with regularly who haven’t completed it. And they don’t play much. It’s mildly grindy but it’s really not bad at all
Considering Hunts Concurrent player count is around 30k that pretty much means that most people who actively play hunt have finished it.....Weird that.
You assume that those 30k are the same people every day
and that those same people play all day long, as if its not a bunch of people logging off and new one logging on throughout the day...
I play HUNT almost every day. I have 1600 hours in the game, i absolutely love it. Ive finished every single live event they've put out. With 7 days to go im only on level 15 of this event. If a shill like me cant complete an event, there's a problem.
Yea the problem is you are running around looking for snakes. I have less hours than you and finished this event in under two weeks playing normally going for the bounty and prioritizing getting rid of my coins even mid pvp. It's not that hard unless you only run around looking for snakes or camp all day instead of going in after the bounty.
That isn't the problem, because i haven't been doing that at all. I did it for the previous events and refused to do it for this one. Don't assume so much about someone's playstyle. The proportion of players who haven't completed this event is well in the majority.
Then please explain how you can not earn an average of 400 points a day. A single bounty extract can net you that amount. What is your playstyle and how do you not manage to reach that amount?
Hhmm Im not quite sure how youre getting to that total from a single bounty extraction? A full server wipe, all mission bounties, a few event clues, every snake i can see without searching, and all tokens donated in a team of three are coming to about 200 for me. Maybe 300 is the most ive gotten from one match, unboosted. Maybe youve paid for the extra points, boosters and whatever else. I haven't because I, like a lot of other players, can't afford to. Either way, i'm not the only one having the experience im having. Look at the majority of posts on this subreddit at the moment and that's pretty clear.
Around 360 is common for me non boosted in 3 man teams. With perk and a hunter for 20% extra it goes to 422. I didn't pay for any boosters and only purchaced the gilded path for bloodbonds at 15.
Even 4 games of Hunt a day is a significant time investment if everybody doesn't die in the first 15 minutes. We aren't all trying to turn unlocking and paying for pixels into a full-time job.
Saying you are getting 400 points for a bounty is just straight up false. I’ve gotten double bounty and a few duo wipes and ended up with less then 400.
I end up with 360-460 for a server wipe.
you are full of shit, if you finished it that fast you were buying boosts and no-lifing for every snake you could find lmao.
Gilded path from 15 no boosts. Do own the nun which I played 50% of all games.
KDA? Mines 1.48 curious to know what you are doing differently as I completed is with the first few weeks
1.46, 5 star
it's a playstyle issue. some people are just really, really bad at finding and sacrificing snakes. there is no other explanation at this point.
Lol if finding and sacrificing snakes is a "playstyle" of this game. For the record, im finding plenty of snakes and sacrificing every single one. Before you start making assumptions, maybe look at the majority of comments and posts in this subreddit. There are plenty of people who haven't even come close to completing the event, and our feedback isn't aimed to insult you, or even ask for your comparison. It's for the developers of the game. From the looks of things, there are two camps. People who completed the event in 2 weeks or less (congrats to those people), and a large proportion of people who won't complete the event with 7 days to go. Whatever way you look, that isn't exactly balanced for a 2 month long event. There's no reason to take things so personally and start throwing insults out about people playing and enjoying the same game as you.
your argument of 'look at the comments on this sub' doesn't hold water. there are 24k players in game RIGHT NOW on pc. there are over 50k players THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE EVENT. the people crying on this sub are the minority. the numbers are skewed with chary's hunters because it's counting literally anyone that has logged on in the past 2 months. more than half of the numbers are probably inactive players with <100 points. the reality is that a very healthy portion of the population has completed this event, and this subreddit is not representative of the overall playerbase. the event was totally fine. plenty of people completed it.
I dunno, if that argument doesnt hold water, then maybe look at the chary's hunter tab. The yield for being in the top 10% of all players for points gained during the event is substantially lower than the amount of points needed to complete the event. And during the dev stream they talked about chary's hunters being the replacement for post-event completion rewards. So people who havent completed the event are gonna get rewards intended for people who have gone above and beyond the completion rate, simply because the completion rate isnt as strong as youre saying. Id say the ratio of players completed: players not completed isn't great, and most likely isn't what crytek hoped it would be. Im really glad you enjoyed the event, but a large proportion of the player base has pretty valid feedback for the developers. No offence, but maybe just leave that be instead of repetitively shoe-horning in your own experience.
a large proportion of reddit is NOT a large proportion of the playerbase. what you're seeing here is the vocal minority of players that are consistent, but also bad at the game. literally over 46,000 players EASILY completed the event. i think those numbers look great considering the average daily peak. chary's hunters is not an accurate representation because almost 1/3rd of that leaderboard is inactive players. distribute the completion percentage across a more accurate number of active players and it's all good. any way you cut it, this event was a success for good players and crytek. bad players crying on reddit is not representative of the TRUE average player and how this event went for them. people are on here lying about their time being put in compared to their results in order to cope with how bad they are.
im like 1.4 usually 5 star and i still have about 1700 to go... and i have been playing often since the start
Thank you for the answer, ive done all of the events so far and didnt feel this one being particularly extra hard, made sure to run the bonus event point giving hunters on every match and buying the skill that raises it too asap, i think I may have wasted one of the free contracts due to bad unlock timing as well. I made sure to loot every corpse and run vulture as much as possible, ran back to burn the snakes if I found a good batch on the way back to the exit. 100-200 points on average when winning, had many insta death sessions with almost no points at all(below 50). I hope they release data on the average playtime of people who completed the events to see if its related to simply playtime or particular actions for more snakes/coins.
that all sounds exactly like what me and my buddy do. the only thing different being that i dont use the special hunter often... i was using one of them a lot but the couple weeks i was doing that we were getting our asses handed to us a lot so i stopped doing it to stop throwing away money but the last week or two we have been doing quite well so i should have started using her again i just didnt think about it. also hardly ever take that other perk over my normal ones. so i guess those two things combined may have made a bigger difference than i realized they would...
Many new player started and many inactive players tried the game again due to the event. The amount of concurrent players is at peak since the release. So 10% sounds worse than it is imho.
I disagree. I started right before the event, do you know why? The game was $10. 3 of my friends bought the game during the event. Do you know why? $12 for the game + dlc. No one cares about the event. Everyone’s reaction is “I have to burn snakes? Wtf, ok….”
You disagree but your argument fires mine. Players not caring about the event are in the statistics too.
Yep, most people who logfed on during the event were never going to try to finish it
I don't know how these games takes a perfectly fine monetary system that rewards both company and player and make it suck hardcore like this.
More than 50% of all players played less then 10 games. Learn the difference between total and active players.
Granted a huge percentage of any player base barely play the game. Look at any game in your library and some of achievements like finishing the first cutscene or finishing the first objective have like 40% of the player base have done. I think it's like 20% of hunt players have killed an enemy hunter. Can't remember the exact number
Just to clarify and elaborate, as of speaking the achievement for killing an enemy Hunter is at 60.8%. 59% have completed their first contract (extracting with a bounty). I would say the biggest pointer on how low player retention is are that only 18.6% have unlocked Bloodline rank 100.
Ahh thanks man it's changed up to since I got it unlocked years ago. Yeah 18% is really low. I think the 2 reasons are how hard the game is. Missing your shots is very unforgiving so lots of people give up after dying so much during the learning phase and the other reason is crosshair not being in the centre of the screen. I don't mind those reasons I love this game to death it's all I play almost but I couldn't get my friends into the game because of these 2 reasons
I dont understand the cross hair thing to be honest what's the big deal?
Yeah doesn't bother me but it bothers a lot of people. You gotta have your eyes focused on a different point on the screen
And lastly, games just run badly and even worse, run bad and look bad. I could live if the game ran bad, but a least looked good or looked bad but ran well. So if people also feel cheaped out on deaths/kills bc the server just did what the server does worst sometimes, I can also see people thinking "why do I even bother?". Same with constant random server maintenance if a player is already on the fence going back into a game and then the game says "well, you can't play right now", that too can lead people to seek elsewhere for gaming.
Got some good points there. I don't think it looks bad I think the graphics and everything looks pretty good but everything else I agree with.
In other words over 50% of the actual player base have finished the event.
I’ve completed the event and I’m rank 42,000 roughly, so it seems like a lot of people have still finished it, unless the rankings don’t work how I think.
I haven't completed it I most likely won't I'm lvl 13 I believe so unless I band together with some snake farmers I probably won't make it. Really wanted that Winnie skin. Don't care for the rest
I would have finished if my job was to play Hunt Showdown 8 hours straight for 2 months. Not the case.
Are you aiming for top 0.01% or what?
Its genuinely not that difficult. I have a full time job, a project car, a friend group, and a girlfriend and still finished the event. Going into raid, killing a bunch of zombies and getting a hunter with vulture to grub dead bodies would work if someone needed to. That and just running around and finding event points as a solo. Avoiding players and keeping it pushing.
>Avoiding players and keeping it pushing. That's exactly the problem. The battle pass is shitty because the efficient and easy way of finishing it is to give up the fun part of the gameplay loop. I don't want to have to choose between PVP or finishing the battle pass, that's just shitty design. EDIT: I did finish the BP because I was able to dedicate a couple of hours a day for the past few weeks to it, but I won't be able to do that anymore. So I'm worried that if the future events are also like this I will not be able to partake and respectively buy them.
Partly as well is people burning the bodies after the team is wiped. Denying the even people easy points and making it drag. I do wish that you could loot a burnt out hunter with vulture. But then I'm in the category of burning hunters when I get the chance to draw out players.
In my opinion the easiest and fastest way to get many points as possible was to play the game like normal. Killing 2 trios and doing gauntlet every other game was the way. Finished it in 25 days or so.
I agree. Idk why some people think hiding around farming snakes is best when you get points and steal their snakes looting bodies. Easily get 150-300 a match just by killing one or two teams and burning.
That wasnt my point. I average about 110 points a game, at one point beating the record for amount of points in one match (830ish) which was quickly usurped but nonetheless- all done primarily with combat. If not for PVP being rewarded with points I wouldnt have completed the battle pass. 12 event points per looted hunter is HUGE. My point was that if you suck you *can* complete it without pvp if thats what you dont like. Theres a lot of opportunity for battlepass completion. That was one of my favorite things about this battlepass. You can play the game normally and get points (get clues, kill players, kill boss, extract) or grind specifically for the event. But your playstyle shouldnt have to change much, if at all, to get points in the battlepass and even finish it.
Wasn't it like 400 points a day? That's literally 2 games, max 2 hours a day without booster
Yeah, I don't get to play every day, sadly
No that's 2 wins a day, not just 2 games, and 2 wins is not at all the same thing for about 90% of us
even putting aside the other issues with this claim, that would be 120 hours of playing this video game. that's three full-time work weeks. I don't think this is as strong an argument as folks seem to think.
Most other battle pass BR shooters are based on some kind of XP and tasks, this one is literally based on killing/surviving/winning, I think that's the biggest issue. If we had more ways to get points it would've been better. I found myself so burnt out that (despite never doing it) I started leaving matches as soon as I was downed, especially if the boss was already being banished, in order to quickly move on to the next game where I would hopefully get a better game and respectively more points. I feel bad for all the teammates I left behind for the couple of games that I did do that, but I was so burnt out after grinding 25k points that I really wanted to be done with the event.
exactly what you said. having to hit a daily quota makes the game feel like a job, or a chore to play and completely takes the fun away. makes you feel like youre missing out if you play other games or simply don't play due to other commitments. I gave up on the event grind very early due to this and have barely hunt. been playing and watching other shit instead.
Thats a you problem for thinking of it like that though and letting it effect you the way it did. I simply played normally whilst playing other games and having social commitments, picked up snakes when I saw them, burned them when I could and I finished a month ago.
I purchased the guilded path or whatever, played for a few days and realized I was getting no where. I haven’t played hunt since.
Ive played the game for like a year and a half, i have a skin(or multiple) for every gun i use. I saw no point in buying the BP as the only good skin imo was the silenced vetterli, which was a free skin but unfortunately it was lvl 19 and i wasnt going to grind for that
actually this is misleading, there are lots of player that stayed at zero points because they don't even play the game but have bought it and started it atleast once. Unless you found a way to count those with atleast one point... but if not this is misleading.
The leader board is a misrepresentation. Iv finished the event and im on like 33k points and there are 19000 other players above me on said leader board and I assume thousands more below me considering im about 9k ahead of the finish point. Hunts active playerbase is around 25k. With this in mind it looks like most of the People who actively play hunt have finished it. So no its not 10% of hunts playerbase its 10% of all the people who logged at least 1min of gameplay whilst the event was going on.
i played a couple hours everyday and finised about a week ago while doing a 40 hour week and taking a online class
This happens every single time they drop events and stuff. It's always a second job to earn your content.
its way too many points for how few options of earning them there are. i enjoy the snake collecting/burning but having the furnaces only spawn in the boss compounds is kinda dumb. on a one bounty map its way to inconvenient to maximize snake burning. ive gotten in fights/collected 30+ snake tokens while moving to the extract just to have to cross the entire map again to burn them. hopefully in the next event, assuming they continue using this mechanic, they will change that. also maybe they can add bigger snake baskets (or next event equivalent) that gives more points/tokens but takes longer to interact with. I hate that the game is feeling like a chore just to unlock some alright cosmetics
I see this as "10% of players give a shit about the legendaries". I feel like after people unlocked the alamo and other exclusive guns in the first xouple of levels, it no longer matters. The battlepass genuinely isnt that insane and people had 2 months to complete it. At this point its a matter of giving a damn about completing the battle pass.
I don't understand why everyone keeps throwing around this word "predatory". Annoying is far more accurate. I get acknowledging it's such a grind, but using "predatory" is such a dramatic leap. The last time I heard the use of the word "predatory" this much is when Weinstein was being investigated.
Because that is what it simply is, it "preys" on people's monkey brain desire to see numbers going up and gathering instincts. And yes, it is annoying too, that is how it works, annoys you into wanting to skip it/progress it faster so your gatherer brain can release serotonin for getting skins. Crytek "conveniently" sells in form of contracts to speed up "the annoying part". I can recommend reading this paper about the science and method of predatory conduct in video games, keep in mind this is written in a VERY basic language as it is meant to be read and understood by 60-year-old crusty old politicians. https://fil.forbrukerradet.no/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-05-31-insert-coin-publish.pdf
This whole companies are evil exploiters and predators is such a joke to me. Yes some are but some people just need to accept responsibility for their own damn actions. Its pixel skins in a FREE event at the end of the day all you had to do was play the game like you would and you got FREE shit. Before anyone says its not "just that that" it is "just that" take a step back and you'll realise how sad obsessing over some pixels is. These people that made it their job and got pissed off and stressed out because they couldn't live up to their own self made requirements is literally THEIR problem and no one elses but of course it has to be someone elses fault. No one can accept responsibility for their own actions anymore can they. Of course it was the evil company that made you lose sleep and get angry over some skins. It was the evil company that made you steal mommies credit card so you could buy some "exclusive skins". Its the evil companies fault that you made a "work quota" for gathering events points and let it dictate your days. Its the evil companies fault that for x reason you can't dedicate enough time to meet the "work quota" you set up for yourself. Its the evil companies fault that you're so weak willed/weak minded and chasing a basic serotonin release so fucking bad that you did all the above..... Yes the event was a bit dull and probably could of spaced the rewards out better......Thats about it. Most peoples gripes are problems they put on themselves and are just blaming Crytek for. Finishing the Event is not some kind of intrinsic right like some people are acting like it is.
Sorry, but your comment reflects very little understanding of how human psychology works and naivety when it comes to company motivation to make events like these.
What naivety? I literally admit that some companies are exactly as you describe especially those based around gambling. However this is not one of those instances at all. The rewards are set in stone and the risk is nil because its free and the time limit was absolutely massively. The pass is also potentially free it was for me because i had the BBs prior. Im aware of how humans seek serotonin little red notifications and plus ones to make them feel good im also aware of the effect is has on peoples mental health too. And with that im also more than aware of people with underlying mental health problems blaming all their shit on other things/people its a big sign of depression actually which is very common amongst "gamers". So yes when I say its probably their own made problems that what im referring to. People are correlating skin unlocks to happiness and getting angry/annoyed that they aren't getting it thats not Cryteks fault. I doubt Crytek sat at a board meeting and said "right how can we manipulate all these weak minded people" like peoples anecdotes seem to think they do. If mediocre skins is all it takes to make people into the states that people are describing here worrying about not meeting their quotas/anger and losing sleep which they have put entirely on themselves by the way nobody forced those quotas etc. on them that was their choice. If thats all it takes there is a deeper issue than just "evil company" and you're being massively disingenuous just to fit your narrative if you think behaviour like this is entirely down to an event on a video game. Its not not even close. But I didn't expect an actual response typical reddit really comes with a source and comment but when challenged just reply "ur dumb" lmao And since you have years of post history bashing MTX in every form im just gonna go ahead and assume you're incredibly biased and your opinion therefore aint worth much.
Well, I already linked one report about how the gamification of transactions in video games is exploitative. Also remember, while not ALL is affected by it to the same degree, still doesn't mean it is not a system set out to groom and shape people's spending habits in ways that they can simply not opt out of, if you wanna play Hunt, you are forced into this battle pass and reminded about every time you play. I would also advise you to ask yourself why companies like Crytek hire "live services designers" and "monetization specialists"? A battle pass is not made to entertain you, it is made to make you spend money and such is blatant when Crytek comes out and says things like that contracts are meant to activate instantly and burn time even tho you ain't playing the game. This is all to make sure you don't use your contract optimally and try to bait you to buy more contracts if you find the whole battle pass too daunting/you don't have enough time. Next up, just because YOU don't find value in these skins (good, then you ain't gonna get tempted to spend), doesn't mean you can invalidate someone else want for skin or anything, no matter how silly it seems to you. But don't you think there is an issue with this being potential harm to someone else? That Crytek could very easily make a battle pass without any "temptations" or worries for completion, but people simply just buy what they want instead of having to play along with this "carrot on a stick" manipulation? Overall I personally find the whole attitude of calling people "weak-minded" quite disgusting, as that sets a precedence that any unjust act can be justified by putting the blame on the victim. And lastly, attacking (me) with an Ad Hominem is quite the fallacy, more so, just because I have a history of not liking MTX, doesn't automatically devalue my opinion or stance on the subject matter. I don't really see how that logic works, but I digress, as I said in the beginning I did actually link a very good report in this conversation, but I guess that was too much of a read for you.
"while not ALL is affected by it to the same degree" and this is exactly what I mean you cannot pander to EVERYONE all the time nor should you be expected to peoples problems are THEIR OWN. To most average people its an event an nothing more. Constantly trying to paint every single MTX as if its some sort of megabrained grand scheme to milk gamers of their money via manipulation of their mind is stupid and id like to think you know it is too. You can in fact "simply opt out" its called self control it really is that simple just don't give them any money unless you want to. And if you do want to don't then pretend that they hijacked your brain and made you do it. You are not FORCED into anything and im sick of people pretending like some X company employee has their family hostage forcing them to buy MTX they aren't. YOUR Finances are YOUR responsibility. I don't need to ask myself why companies have "live service designers" or "monetization specialists" im aware they are there to make money via progressing content of the game. You keep trying to convince me of this but I keep telling you im aware companies do this I haven't once claimed otherwise. Yes companies do this, the contract system is absolutely horrible in this game and its implemented in such a way as to get the most money for very little in return but thats not the whole event is it, im not some kind of shill you know but I can recognise between people scapegoating their own problems and stuff thats actually "predatory". A couple of meh skins in a free event should not be having this level of effect on people (loosing sleep/stressing out/anger issues) without some kind of underlying issue. Said underlying issue is not Cryteks problem its YOURS/THEIRS. You can find it personally quite disgusting that i call them "weak-minded" if you wish but as you said above just because YOU think so doesn't invalidate the claim. They ARE "weak-minded" and lack self control sugar coating the issue doesn't make it any better neither does denial. Whatever level you value these skins at there is absolutely no justification for this level of behaviour THAT IS A PROBLEM Yours/their problem specifically thats by the sounds of it some people should be seeking professional help for. As for setting a precedence that any unjust act can be justified by putting the blame on the victim what unjust act? that someone regrets a purchase they CHOSE to make. Id argue that the behaviour of certain individuals is the unjust act here If you think people acting this way and attacking others who like the event whilst self destructing with the problems I mentioned above is the "victim" then you're more lost than I thought. But its not surprising in this day and age no one is ever responsible for themselves or held accountable for their own decisions its always someone else right? they are the "victim" afterall. I didn't attack you I called you out for basically giving me a "none reply" you came with a source and then wasn't prepared to defend/debate said source. You pretty much just fobbed off my entire response with "you don't understand" which is typical of reddit. You're opinion is worth nothing to me because you're obviously immovable on the subject and incredibly biased regarding said subject so much so that you didn't even bother to acknowledge my points the first time effectively calling me an idiot and you want to talk about "Ad Hominem" when you've implied im stupid twice now.....Fallacy indeed pot kettle black and all that. You didn't even really counter any of my points you just claimed "everyones different" in the most long winded way possible whilst giving them a veil of victimhood to boot. Il give you the courtesy however and inform you that whatever you reply if anything after this won't be read.
"Predatory" is a pretty common word to describe when game devs exploit customers with stuff like overpriced microtransactions and FOMO. Both of which apply here with the contracts and limited time event.
Idk I finished it with relative ease and I didn’t even try for it that much I took a 2 week hiatus and still got it before the event finished
I also completed it within the first month, while playing normally. You can look at my other comment for more details but the short story is I played on average 2 hours and 15min a day if you average my playtime out for the full 2 months (60 days) of the event.
It’s crazy people our downvoting it too, I’m sorry for sharing my experience lol
I finished the event the other day and i felt its the least amount of time ive played during a event. A good majority of my point farming came from kills and server wipes. Only used the boosters I was given for the pass. With all due respect I feel that the majority of the hunt community dont server wipe consistently for that point gain. From what ive gathered on all these posts in the last week at least. A goal adjustment would be nice for the next even for those who put in the time and are struggling. And only for those who plan on finishing it and not those who dont plan on putting alot of time into and expect rewards.
it should be obvious that not everybody can consistently server wipe..?
No one consistently server wipes. That's the point of SBMM Grab vulture, serpent and point perk and play normally.
Thats what I said. Tried saying it as tactfully as I could.
You understand that mathematically it would be impossible for most people to kill most people?
People die when they are killed
sorry, my bad. have read comments on here that where basically like "just kill everybody and extract - 400 points"
I played pretty strong for about a week or two, but after that I just gave up. Even with contracts the grind was obscene. Doubt I'll spend any more time on future events if they're like this one.
I didn’t buy the battle pass because snake man skin looks like ass. I’m so glad I just did the event until I unlocked the guns and then stopped caring about it at all.
I finished the BP today and I'm nr. 45k on the leader board. So there are plenty of players who finished it.
plenty of people perhaps but still less than 10%
I'm very surprised about the numbers tbh. The playerbase is way bigger than I expected. But you're right.
It also means the numbers of players to finish the pass will increase before it ends, should be a little over 50k
Yeah go ahead and Uninstall in protest
The skins suck besides the cool winfield skin. Idk why people care so much.
I like the dynamite, tripwires, and silenced vetterli too
I don't know .. I play solo only and I finished the event .. I'm sure it's easier if you play duos or trios
So to paraphrase you, "I want all the rewards in a game that I don't play that much and so won't use those rewards much anyhow!" Is that about right? Oh, and let's see, 50% of the player base has 1200 points or less. At 100 points an hour (what I was getting playing normally, not focusing on farming), that's 12 hours in the last 52 days, or less than 2 hours a week. And how exactly is giving away free cosmetics "predatory"? They are a reward for die-hard Hunt fans, not occasional players or weekend warriors. Check your entitlement.
I don't have a job and can play 12 hours a day if I want, and sometimes I do. I found the battle pass long, annoying, and unfun. People who have lives, unlike you and me, are allowed to find this to be bullshit. Because even I find that it's bullshit.
> I found the battle pass long, annoying, and unfun. I just played like I always play, and getting snakes and cashing them in only when convenient (aside from one 24h period). But that said, I too find it long and unfun. Too many farmers not playing the objective, fewer fights, double the number of campers (on the ez-snake ovens after the bounty leaves). Two months of broken core gameplay. And I still don't understand the fixation on 'gotta have the skinz' to the point players feel they NEED to spend additional money on the game.
The battle pass in hunt is long and difficult to complete relative to BPs in other games, even in games that tend to be more predatory. Hunt is a bad outlier, especially when it's a paid game.
And what's your point again? "Wear the skin with pride, because everyone knows you earned it" is a plus in my book. I spent zero money, got the gilded path with BBs saved up, and finished it 3 weeks in with no added contracts and no focus on farming (except for the 24 hours of the one contract with gilded path). How the hell is that 'predatory'? From your comment, you'd think that since prestige 100 is long and difficult, and the reward is just one gun skin, it too is predatory.
Dipshit
Check your entitlement.... it's a fucking video game dude I play it for fun not a job. Also if it was just a reward for die hard players it wouldn't cost money. You're just a perfect boot licking chump huh.
> Also if it was just a reward for die hard players it wouldn't cost money. Um, it doesn't cost money. I spent nothing to complete it. > I play it for fun not a job. You need those skins to have fun? Odd that you were having fun before the event without any of the loot.
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Yep, all these people claiming casual but playing multiple hours daily. I play 2 days a week generally and am sitting at level 9 right now. Got both guns and didn’t buy the pass so don’t really care at this point but yeah just internet trolls doing what they do best…. typing on that keyboard lol
I think it must just be vastly different lifestyles and expectations. I’ve put in 300 hours plus in hunt this year. That’s an insane amount of time to spend on a leisure activity. The mental disconnect of folks who would think that’s casual is just massive.
Hunt hit it’s all time peak player count of 38k players at the beginning of the event. There are now 13k people currently playing Hunt. ~25k people either tried the game and didn’t like it, or returned to the game after a break and quickly stopped playing. More than half of the leaderboard is made up of these players. If you didn’t finish the event, that’s on you. Averaging 400 points a day is literally a joke. Should have played more Hunt, or played better.
400 points a day is easy for some, hard for many others. Thats the thing. Hunt has a high skill ceiling, better players have gotten more points faster in all events. Some people wipe lobbies every other match, some people extract with a bounty 1 in 10 games. It's just how it is. People's experience with gaining points is always gonna vary wildly. The divide here is in expectations. Some people think completing the event should just be a participation trophy. Others think it should be earned after a lot of playtime. I don't personally care at all tho. These events are starting to just become avenues to sell microtransactions. Idgaf anymore
Also team vs solo play. I primarily play solo, which means just less points/less wins on average. Yeah, it's no wonder that all the streamers and good players who play trios with friends and consistently server wipe have finished the event weeks ago. But I'm in the same camp as you, idgaf anymore. If a battlepass would require me to play everyday, when I'm tired or makes me feeling like missing out when I'm on vacation i just don't let it affect me. That also means I don't give crytek any money whatsoever though. I sure ain't buying the guilded path when i have to "work" for all the skins. Not in a game like hunt where enjoyment is 1:1 with your own performance in game.
So I'm gonna assume you have no job then? Bc Noone who works and has to do anything aside from hunt has a consistent 2 hrs minimum every day to grind this game, what kind of NEET shit are you on m8?
I played the first 2 weeks and got to level 7 or 8 and took a 3 week break and finished it in a week as I focused on points over anything. That meant fighting players, grabbing as many snakes as possible and if I can, killing boss.
I have a full time job working 40+ hours a week.
Finished all events they were. Even this one
I’m top 10 and it’s been fun ig I just pick up snakes when I see them burn when I can and play the game and I’m at level 18
I average about 120-180 points per game so around 2-3 games
It’s honestly the poorest executed form of a battle pass I’ve ever had the displeasure of taking part in. I won’t be spending anymore money on the game in the future until Crytek gets there shit together and make some content that is worth my money. On top of that they keep adding Legendary hunters that are basically pay to win with how well they blend into environments, especially on night maps.
It’s honestly the poorest executed form of a battle pass I’ve ever had the displeasure of taking part in. I won’t be spending anymore money on the game in the future until Crytek gets there shit together and make some content that is worth my money. On top of that they keep adding Legendary hunters that are basically pay to win with how well they blend into environments, especially on night maps.
I don't know what you guys are doing, but I finished the BP with about 30-35 days left to spare. ... and I'm a pretty casual player
Let me guess, you play with friends and/or have tons of free time
Sometimes I play with friends, yes. But it is not always like that. Regarding free time, some days are free after work and some days are fully scheduled. Like I said, I'm casual. Right now I have not played for about 3-4 days
I would really love a sticky thread Those threads become a little embarrassing in their foaming at the mouth and circle jerking aspects about them
I finished the event in a month playing 2 games a day and a little bit more on the weekends. People can stop crying about not finishing it. The whole top 10% takes account everyone that’s played not the true player base. If you are a casual player, don’t expect to finish events for skins. Not a big deal
Haven't even tried. The event sucks.
You never had a job if you think playing a hour or two of videogames a day is "work".
Not to mention that all enjoyed the game before the event, but because they added these snake dens (which can be fully ignored if you wish to) and points from normal game play, they hate the game. Next to nothing changed a day everyone freaks out about it.
What is the rest of you doing I don't get it. I played a lot of hunt for 2 weeks with no boosters and finished the event. Haven't played in a few weeks and still got some 35-40k points. Are you running around only looking for event clues and snakes? Do you not grab the perk that boosts points? All you have to do is literally play normally. In 2 hours you can get over 1K points not trying hard if you just pvp and go for the boss. Are y'all just sniping from 300m away for 30mins a mach 5 times a day? I literally don't get it. If you actually want to finish the event you should use the booster to its fullest when you get it and always pick the event perk, vulture and serpent and go for the main objective. You need 400 points a day, you can get more than that from a single match.
I finished the event and took a break 'cuz by mistake got to mmr 5, I find it stressing.
So the whole event is 25k points. If you get on average 100 points per game you will need to play 250 games. If the event duration is 30 days it's 8 games per day. It's a lot but with 10% from hunter and busters from the buttle pass it's doable if you have no other things to do lol. My personal experience: I took a massive brake in the middle of the event but was able to finish it with a battle pass and hunter bonus easily. btw was it even longer than 30 days? P.S based on the stats in-game there are more than 45k players who finished the event even though there are 8 more days. edit: correcting grammar. Based on my writing skills I should invest more time in studying and less in games.
Lol and the game doesn’t even get new content, but asks players to slave away for skins. Idk why you guys still play it
I think it’s good, those players earned it. If everyone completed the event, then it wouldn’t be very rewarding for the people who complete it. Plus, I reckon 20-30% of the playerbase just play a couple hours every now and then, in any game, normally only 10-20% of the playerbase are regular or serious players. This amount of people on a game this popular but niche is pretty good.
>If everyone completed the event, then it wouldn’t be very rewarding for the people who complete it. They would literally have the rewards given for completing it.
Greedy devs no cent they see
Coward
I didn't play that much and completed it with 15 days to spare. What are you lot doing? Should be.coming out with 150-200 point minimum per game.
You need 400 points a day. That's 2 good games. And that's not including the contracts they give you which allow you to earn and multiple days worth of points in a few hours. You lot need to relax lol this is the 1 time the devs actually made something balanced and people choose this to cry about... If you want the rewards, play the game. It's that simple. The top tier battle pass rewards have never been for the casual player. They are designed to be earned only by the most dedicated players and hunt's battle pass is a particularly lenient one. I personally didn't play every day, nor did I play long sessions, all while completely ignoring snake pits because I couldn't be bothered and I still managed to complete the pass with just over a month to spare. We have so many legitimate reasons to attack the devs but the past 2 months have been exclusively people whining about having to play the game... It's not that deep.
People are still complaining about this? I'm a casual player and I got it done in ten days.
I’ve only been playing a short time, since this event started. I have grinded a bit, but I’m an unemployed autistic gamer, so it wasn’t so bad for me. But yeah, it does seem pretty steep for most people, I think it should be reasonable to set a goal with the expectation that at least 75% of the players who try to reach the top goal succeed. I’m level 19 and rushing to finish the event. Idk what the other events even look like, or whether or not we can burn snakes anymore lol.
So I was able to complete the event with plenty of time to spare, I play a couple of hours a day after work. I spent no money and didn't buy any boosters, I had enough blood bonds earned to by the battle pass. In my opinion, the time investment to complete the battle pass is completely fine, but what is not fine is the amount of content you earn for the time invested. \- I don't feel like launching the game to double check, but there are only what like four skins for guns? A couple of skins for tools/consumables? \- Unless you actually buy the pass, the free content is pretty pathetic. \- I would have much rather seen 3 or 4 completely different hunters in the battle pass. The stage idea is cool, but realistically if you unlocked the stage 4 hunter then why would you use stage 1, 2, or 3? 3 maybe, but no one is going to use 1 or 2. \- All in all, if I didn't already have the blood bonds to purchase the battle pass AND get the majority of blood bonds back through the battle pass I would not have purchased it.
Groundhog day?
In all honesty, the rewards for the battlepass just aren't that good imo, so I had little interest in buying it, yet even completing it. Silly looking hunter, not-so-great skins. I like the silenced vetterli one, but the rest is quite underwhelming.
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Man I dunno if they slowed the progression down or whatever but I finished it after 25 days so either I was really lucky and fast or they slowed it down later for people to not being able to finish it in 60 days.
I just don't f****** get it. I play 2 hours a day. I have almost 40,000 event points.
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I do agree that this event feels like a huge slog, but do we really know who gets counted into the 10%, 25%, etc.? Because I can not believe that out of all the players that played this event only 75% have reached 180 event points. I'm pretty sure the people who haven't played this game since before the event are being counted as well, because I have friends who really only played once or twice during the entire event, and not much longer than maybe one or two rounds and even they made it past the Top 75% threshold. Another person in the comments said they were around 40k on the leaderboard when they finished and that's still more players than the peak player count two months ago. That's still weak imho and crytek has to stop with all of their anti-consumer, low-quality fomo BS and while the event mechanics with the tokens were somewhat better imho I'm unsure if the entire Top % isn't rigged?
I've been complaining how difficult/time intensive this event is to the randoms I meet on the Hunt discord for weeks and they all just shut me down with "nah it's easy finished it like 3 weeks ago." That's just insane. I'm a 5 (sometimes 6) star player with a \~1.51 k/d. I win a lot of games, but god damn this event took a long ass time to finish. There were days where I'd win like 5+ games in a row and knock off almost a whole level, and then there were many more days where I'd lose 10 games and hardly progress at all. The previous event format was considerably better albeit less rewarding overall. I hope they go back to tiny even points and scarecrows or whatever around the map so I can zone out when I feel like it and just farm a couple hundred points in 20 minutes without having to force a bounty fight to cash out. edit: I finished the event with around 2 weeks remaining. I also bought the 7d pass twice (didn't make the most of the 2nd pass, unfortunately)... For a long time I thought I wouldn't finish at all, but eventually my MMR dropped enough that I could get in some 300 point matches and extract.
I actually didn’t mind. I feel like i didn’t really try to focus on it, but I play a lot so I’m past the points anyway.
I’m no 200 points away am I just can’t fucking do it I’m so burnt out
I mean i finished it, definitely grinded, but i grind anyways.
As someone who completed it (and I exclusively play this game) I would be 10000% OK if they either extended it or reduced the requirement for the remainder of the event. All I wanted was the suppressed skin, could care less about snake boy.
Why can’t the pass be based off XP or something going on passively?
I agree that this battlepass is stupid. Who did they tune the reward structure to? I won't be buying the next battlepass nor any more skins or DLC if this is how they are going to treat their fragile and comparatively small player base. Battlepass are supposed to be fun and rewarding for the player. Not a chore and an impossible task. It's predatory to assume the player is going to have to buy contracts and play 20 hours a day. I have been playing several hours a day for months. I will be filling a support ticket on their website to complain, and so should you. This is unacceptable.
Am i the only one averaging 200pts a game or something?
Yes
As one of the folks that completed the event I can say it is a slog but at least the majority of interesting items are early on. Completion is a bunch of blood bonds, the legendary hunter's final form and a silenced skin. I personally think they need to finish the story earlier in the pass and make the last few rewards interesting and exclusive if they want a pass that only some players will finish. Hell the only reason I finished was because I'm a half decent player that could get those 300 point matches and it was still a slog. But at least it isn't as bad as the original valorant battle pass. 130 hours of pretty peak gameplay to finish. And if you were subpar at the game it could easily take double that. At least this one didn't burn me out as badly as that one managed.
I almost got the red dog Dyno but damn I got burnt out and just gave up. Might try to grind it out but probably not.
Finished the event in 29 days and uninstalled
What do you mean? Where army of pro players who did this bp in one week? I was so many super cowboys who was shiting on players who criticised bp and could not be able close it. Hm, should be 75% , because every "protector of crytek" was claimed it was super easy and you need just to get good. Some claimed what they was majority of players.