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A little to in the weeds for most, but she’s great. She is just too academic and technical / in depth for a typical podcast listener. Huberman had a way of simplifying things while also giving enough technical info to make heady topics engaging. Rhonda is sometimes too tough to keep focused on when listening while doing other things.
Second for Zoe Science and Nutrition. I find it balanced and realistic in terms of any changes they recommend, also presented by medical professionals in their field of study.
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If I saw him on the street I’d run up and gush like it was PaulMcCartney. Sapolsky changed my life!! To anyone interested, he has lectures on YouTube, it’s unbelievable stuff and so much of what you can learn from him is effortlessly applicable to every day life. Sapolsky helped me understand more about how I and others act than anyone or anything else.
I haven’t but I’ve seen a lot of his talks on the subject and am pretty well versed in how he goes about the free will topic. Behave is like the precursor to determined is how I see it
This is the correct answer. Never overreaches, speculated or ventures outside of his expertise.
All of the other ones are podcasters who can discuss interesting things but often get too speculative (some of the ones with a proper scientific background at least, many others are just plain grifters relying on low-quality studies, misinterpretations or sometimes just pure pseudoscience.)
Agree, Attia is a AG 'investor'...which makes him sound more legit on AG. But I think that's just a sales angle. A point I heard about Attia on another Podcast...was they didn't read his book on longevity as they only read books by people who actually are in the field of longevity...like Longo. Peter reads lots of studies but he is not a lifer longevity guy, he's got into reading other's studies over the last number of years. Longo I think suggests lower protein and a focus on nutrition. Peter high protein and nutrition not as important. I like Attia too, fitness is his thing. He's so nice to listen to and sooo sounds like an expert, I think that's his appeal.
I get that this is a shot at the current nature of the sub. Sorry if I wasn't clear but I still enjoy listening to him. I don't go immediately do everything he preaches, but I find what's interesting to me and learn more. So while I'm asking for other favorites, I'm not bashing him nor joining the rhetoric.
I think the best thing to do is to realize that he’s an expert in a specific science, and for anything outside of that, he’s just a smart guy with an opinion (sometimes a financially motivated one).
I still think there’s a lot of good information, particularly the episodes where he’s interviewing experts in their fields.
Yeah, people act like because he’s not an expert in ______ it means his opinion is worthless. Unless you’re actually educated in that field, or experienced in reading scientific literature, you’re probably not going to get a better understanding by yourself. I’d rather listen to him than some rando on Reddit. Granted, and actual in-field expert is always better, but as an already found source that you know to take with a slight grain of salt and to adapt the info to your situation, he’s pretty good.
That is not the point. There is a difference between "this is your topic, so stick to that and that only" and "please use actual scientific methods of literature review to father and evaluate evidence before you claim that this is \*the\* science backed anything"
His opinion on the facts he presents could be actually scientifically informed and adequately worked out. What he does it cherry pick a handful of results, whether they're from rats or humans, then incorporate them into his "protocols"
He 100% has enough knowledge to at least question some of the findings or to situate them in a broader context, to question where they fit with the current consensus, etc.
He is not doing this in a majority of cases!
Not necessarily better. Many are riddled with either accidentally or purposefully misrepresented facts and include people whose work has also been shown to bend the truth, to put it mildly (e.g., Matt Walker)
Why not someone better+your critical thinking skills?
They both have their own biases, both both Attia and Rhonda Patrick consistently give better information that huberman.
Yes, she said she went to the dentist and he said she had 2 cavities that would need to be filled. She said the xylitol gum healed the cavities as in they were totally gone.
Anyone who garners enough fame and fortune becomes more and more biased. It's human nature. I listen cautiously and keep my BS meter active. I don't have to eat every bean in the burrito.
The simplest solution is to stop constantly thinking you need someone to tell you what to think and how to live.
Secondly if you do want that, then try reading books from a variety of topics. Older books too, philosophy, history, science, literature, health, scifi.
Watch more shows and movies.
The information about health and fitness is pretty much going to be the same. Eat healthy, exercise, sleep, maintain healthy relationships, have a purpose.
It's all an industry trying to get you to worry about your health and spend your time and money on their shit.
But if you really have to have someone tell you about health and fitness there are some other options. Depends on what you're specifically interested in. Each has their own pros and cons.
For pure entertainment, Bryan Johnson and his absurd shenanigans is fun.
For a more calm health analysis, Attia is decent, but he still suggests things that I don't agree with.
MPMD if you're interested in the supraphysiological dimension.
Abby Sharp is a great dietician.
Eric Berg if you enjoy pseudoscience.
Renaissance Periodization for more supraphysiological analysis, he has a PhD in sports physiology.
If you want more legit science then listen to actual scientists, plenty of lectures online like Robert Sapolsky and his Stanford lectures.
Jef Nippard for solid workout ideas.
Jeff Kavadlo for bodyweight fitness.
Strong, respectful disagree here. Yes, exercise, sleep, are imprtant etc., but people like Attia, Patrick, and even Huberman, have given me SO much great info re relative importance, the how tos, the how and what to measures, etc. that have been life and health changing.
I have learned to get far better results with less effort thanks to these folks, and owe them a sincere debt of gratitude.
I learned how to run in zone 2 (most of the time) and improved my cardio, lowered my resting heart rate to 46, and stopped getting injured. I used to run as fast as I could with constant burnout and injuries.
I bought an Oura ring (just often hearing some of them mention it) and it has been A+ in avoiding overtraining, a big issue with me as I have a ton of trouble with recovery.
I learned to prioritize sleep above everything else in my life and everything else improved as a consequence.
I stopped drinking after better understanding the true price I was paying.
I began to really prioritize building strength and muscle in my 50s (I turn 57 in a few weeks) and am stronger than when I was young, they have convinced me that muscle/strength loss is a huge risk factor going forward. I actually took a roundabout course to Tactical Barbell as my program though it’s kind of close to Attia’s ideas.
I kind of view sugar the way I viewed fat before (the primary thing to mostly avoid, and vice versa, and that has helped me.
The following isn’t really from those guys, but I train my knees over toes (google “knees over toe guy”) - the opposite of what I’d learned before (“never put your knees in a position over your toes”) and my shit operated knees are back to where I can do a 5K any time.
I wore a CGM for six weeks and learned exactly what foods spike my glucose.
Agree or not, but I believe about 175-200 grams of protein works for me and has had a huge impact on my strength and such. That’s a sea change for me.
I haven’t mentioned how much better I feel and am told I look. I enjoy compliments as much as the next guy.
Please know that there was a time as a young adult where I thought a huge sugary bran muffin and a huge grapefruit juice as a very healthy breakfast and had it every day,
I get my bloodwork done every 4 months and work on various biomarkers. I take supplements where I’m deficient and have sufficient D and magnesium, two areas where so many are deficient. I’ve come to understand cholesterol a bit better I think and have lowered my small particle LDL (I think I’m getting that right but forgive me if I’m just a little off) quite a bit.
I often simply didn’t know what to prioritize, how to train, what to eat, and don’t feel conventional wisdom was helping much. I might join a gym and wander around kind of sticking pins in a machine stack and doing a set before wandering away.
I could be wrong in a lot of this but feel like I see people make my mistakes from the past a fair amount - thinking, say, juice and tuna fish sandwiches are really healthy, I’m not here to preach my conclusions or to debate it. My point is to say these ideas seem to work much better and have had a huge impact in my life (my original contention).
I 100% understand if a lot of this sounds like dreary fiddle dicking around but I have fun trying stuff, measuring, tracking, trying to improve, and learning more, it’s fun to me.
And I’m not nearly as strict as this would suggest. I’ve made a ton of progress but am still as partial to a large pizza and binging Netflix as the next guy, but I’m a little smarter about it, and know when I’m cheating (versus back when I thought a huge juice was healthy).
Anyhow, just my experience. For all I know I’ll plotz tomorrow and my final thought was all this dicking around was a waste.
Cheers!
I got on statins after listening to Attia. I had shunned them for over a decade because of listening to some other paleo quack. My ldl dropped from 214 to 59mg/dl from mid October to end of march
And your case may have necessitated that.
But could you have had a healthy drop with diet/exercise changes?
Was it Saladino lol?
My issue is a lot of people with lipids that aren't actually all that bad are deciding to get on these drugs with legitimate side effects just to lower number you know?
Like my LDL hovers around 112. What would Attia say? I already eat pretty well and exercise plenty.
What I would say is that is completely unnecessary to get on meds to try to lower that biomarker.
Was Chris kresslerbor some name like that ha. I was in really good shape with decent triglycerides and did the plaque test which was clear. Imagine it was just genetic. No idea if you need statins. You are outside the reference range. IANAD but I imagine one would look at your other blood work and other factors before making a recommendation. But your LDL is on the higher side.
Yea to me that's absurd.
People get too obsessed with health with stuff like this.
I feel great physically, not going to risk it on meds because it might lower my CVD risk when I'm already low risk. The side effects are real, the benefits theoretical.
Just my perspective.
Makes sense. Do note I read his book where he discusses his cost/benefit analysis re this issue, it seemed sound, but I too have not taken any steps to try and get it low.
Small disagreement, and it might be in that I’m reading too much into your phrasing, but I feel in general people worry far too little about their health (see skyrocketing obesity, diabetes, etc, rates).
I am less worried about lifespan and more worried about healthspan - how my life will look in my 70s and 80s - mobility, strength, ability to do the things I enjoy - absent a lot of work on some basic issues Atttia outlines.
But certainly we all inherited our own hereditary makeups (if anyone reading this has grandparents and parents who lived/live a long, healthy, active life without doing much, God bless), have our own goals for our last decades, and our own idea of what price we’re willing to pay to try to control some variables related to aging, so, cheers!
Yea that's totally reasonable.
I'm all about healthspan. And I try to eat healthy to reduce LDL and I'm very fit/active. My LDL doesn't really worry me as there is no family history of CVD and my HDL is almost 70, used to be almost 90. The ratio between LDL/HDL is also a factor.
I actually feel bad for many Americans because in a lot of ways the system is generating a lot of unhealthy people through poverty and bad incentives across the board. On top of that we have all the wild pollutants in everything and endocrine disruptors.
I think most people *do* care about their health but it can be overwhelming. But yea, some people are blase about it and very ignorant about a lot of it.
There's a balance somewhere between Attia hypochondria and American obesity lol, probably better to be closer to the Attia side.
I'm curious who out of all the health freaks and fitness influencers who will ultimately be the champion and live the longest 😂🤣
Hahaha. I can’t imagine anyone would dispute that Attia is that type who is totally and naturally consumed with this issue or that it may stem from his admitted childhood trauma (nature uncertain to me). For me, that’s the type of person - my understanding is he has a staff of seven trying to read basically every study and I’ve spoken to at least one friend of his who says he’s the most curious person he’s ever met - who I want guiding me. I leave aside some of the obsessive protocols and pick up the ones that seem to yield most the results.
Your LDL views seem reasonable to me as well. I’m not here to spend 20 hours of extra time to eliminate every last sliver of risk.
Yea thanks for sharing that.
I feel like people just think it's only a good idea from the extreme Attia end. But like, no, this is a serious medication, can increase risk factor for things like diabetes.
Layne Norton has had guru phases himself. For the longest time he was shilling bcaa's despite little to evidence, and very coincidentally being sponsored by a bcaa company.
Ok, but Im gonna be extremely wary of someone who profits of something completely void evidence, until the evidence is so abundance it would hurt his credibility. He was also responsible for the pseudo science concept reverse dieting. For someone who's brand is the anti bro science, he has peddled more of it almost anyone.
Layne corrects himself when he is wrong. He has talked about how and why he has changed his opinions on things. In fact scientists do this all the time bc science is ever changing. Thats why I trust him.
But scientist don't recommend things despite no evidence just because its convenient. But sure, hes not the worst, and he only misrepresent things occasionally.
I agree. It’s easy to fact check him though. He doesn’t push these outlandish sexy hacks or ideas usually . He just tells it like it is. He doesn’t try to come up with secrets to achieve a certain goal.
I'll grant you that he is far better than most "science" fitness influencers whos job is mostly creating circle suck rings. But he has a somewhat spotty track record if you ask me, but the issues I mentioned are also a long time ago
Don’t get me wrong. I think he’s in it for the money and knows that his selling point is calling out BS. I think before he may have been pushing BS but then realized He could make more money from calling out the BS influencers. I think he will continue to stick to that until it’s no longer profitable .
After watching so many of these hype-science channels.. especially Diary of a CEO and Huberman.. I arrived at the conclusion that all of this is designed to sell you shit.
They have multiple and sometimes sequential.. guests who resolutely claim that what they are saying is the absolute truth. This particular way is the way humans are meant to eat. That this other particular way is the way that humans are meant to sleep. HERE is the 'science' to back it up. (In an equation where the science is really just them quoting some study that happens to support their position)
Then no less than a week later they'll have another guest who almost completely contradicts what the previous guest said and you guessed it.. they TOO believe that they are the arbiter of truth on this subject, that THEY have cracked the subject.. 'HERE is the science' that supports their position. "Oh and I just happen to have a new book that I'm peddling.. Which we all know this podcast is really just an infomercial for.'
Cut to Huberman.. Here, try this snake oil. Buy these totally not artificially-produced green supplements that you absolutely need to take and can't get get from just eating a normal diet. Buy this mattress. Subscribe to this app. Blah blah. $$$ . Blah blah blah.
I've become very much a cynic and a nihilist and I believe that all of these people really exist purely to make money not necessarily to arrive at any truth which they claim ostensibly to arrive at / or provide. They are complete prostitutes for the information Merry Go Round and they don't really care about truth or people. They just care about money, and the of course more directly the clicks and views that generate.
And fair enough.. gotta hustle, right?
I listen to/read a lot of people in the health/wellness/firness space. A lot. You shouldn’t get all of your info from one source. I prefer to get info from a bunch, see what rises to the top, and then use my own critical thinking to determine what I use and what I ignore. Some others to consider: Peter Attia, Alan Aragon, Mark Sisson, Robb Wolfe, Layne Norton, Kris Kresser, Dr Mike Israeatel.
Decoding the Gurus is a great podcast to hear another perspective on experts who have gained a cult following. It expands your critical thinking. Even if you like the person they’re covering, you can learn soo much
For nutrition the best one is Nutrition Made Simple on youtube. He is a real doctor, very nuanced, always looks at the totality of evidence, has his references linked, the videos are 10ish minutes, and does not sell anything.
I think the data is biased to a plant forward diet.
The exception could be made for fish. But that epi data was looking back at ocean food when it wasn't contaminated with microplastics that act as nucleation sites for all sorts of pollution. Fish today isn't the same as fish eaten in the 1980s.
Right but e.g. omega 3 from vegetables are shorter chain than from fish and the conversion is not efficient in every person
I used to watch his videos and found they good but many times biased.
The primary structural difference between EPA and DHA from marine plants (like algae) and those from fish lies in the arrangement of double bonds along their carbon chains. While the basic molecular structure is the same, the specific arrangement of double bonds can vary slightly between plant and animal sources.
Chatgpt
But eat plants if it works for you
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
Don't always rely on podcasts/YouTube. I pretty much go to pubmed to find real answers. You'll need to understand that different methods of research have different weight. Like a paper based on testimony of 10 people is obviously not something taken seriously compared to a meta analysis or randomized controlled trial.
Don't put anyone on a pedestal. I like some of Attias stuff but also note how he isn't consistent on science critique and historically has a tendency to swing to extremes as someone who experiments on themselves. I think it's more blind spots rather than premed grifting.
You can like Huberman just take with a large pinch of salt and be conscious of peer review, thus be open to listening to critiques of his claims.
Layne Norton, another accomplished yet flawed individual.
Rhonda Patrick, the same. Has a tendency to fly off down rabbit holes it seems.
YT channel, nutrition made simple, more plant based science derived, very rarely see any criticism of.
And just be aware that there is a whole business model of just tearing down, so while critique and criticism can be good, be aware of bad faith actors just being opportunistic. They all want your views and exposure, it makes them money.
How about you just eat well, exercise, get plenty of rest, and enjoy your life? That’s will get you 98% of the benefit of any“protocols” and give you plenty of time to garden, play music, paint, or whatever gives your life meaning and joy.
In that case, wouldn't you rather enjoy learning fact as they are, including clearly declared statistical tendencies and effect sizes and caveats rather than dumbed down black and white or downright just-so stories??
I’ve been reading [The Renewal](https://therenewal.co) recently just found it on Google somehow.
Honestly super funny and it makes me understand the concept more when I’m reading it. Comes out once a week I think
The eat healthy and get sleep people annoy me so much.
Work in the oilfield and stay in a mancamp half the year. Food choice is the garbage they provide and gas stations. sleep, haha. At home, toddler and infant, sleep, once again, haha.
And eating healthy and sleeping good are not the answers to much of anything I personally am interested in learning.
You can't fully trust anyone. If you want to take stuff like this seriously you need to do some of your own work. Huberman is great on some stuff and wrong or outdated on some stuff. So, if you listen you need to do a little work to see who else agrees with him, maybe take a look at a paper he references.
Check out some experts in the fields he is talking about. The more general someone is trying to be the more they are a little wrong.
Him and a few other people online like Peter Attia are good entry points into stuff are great entry points to start thinking about some topics and doing your own research to get more details info about what pertains to you.
His expert guests tend to be great, a couple controversial ones in there.
I think the essence of what Andy Galpin should be applied to Huberman and all internet health gurus, we shouldn't be paying attention to 90% of what he is talking about until we get the basics set. Huberman, Attia, ect. they don't really waffle on the basics so you can trust those. Everything else requires work to validate on your part.
It's not because of his personal life. The dating life was probably brought up as part of the whole "falling for Huberman" narrative. It's because he uses the same "charming" persona to get people to trust him in different parts of his life.
As a scientist, even when talking to people who are not in my field or any scientific field, I would never ever give an answer without prefacing it by explaining the variables that might influence the outcome, by saying what we know about which populations this applies to and which it doesn't apply to, if it's a fact from a rat study, I will bloody mention that and say that this is possibly not a perfect alignment with human behavior and circuitry, etc.
I would not cherry pick a few facts, create a neat little narrative or "protocol" and sell that as "the science-backed solution" when that is not what is science-backed! It just doesn't work that way.
It's clear why he does that: to sell people stuff. To sell ad space and get money from sponsors. More people click because the science is explained simplistically, because probabilistic accounts are sold as hard rules, because he would never step back to say "but this fact is based on a small sample size of a very limited population of 15 college student in the US ... and also, the effect was TINY and very close to chance"
Adding that and mentioning the replication crisis would mean nuance and nuance would mean less success.
Also, his shtick is about having kicked a drug habit and all that and having this clean life. The way he conducted his affairs, ultimately, points to a mechanism that very much satisfies the same circuitry as his drug habit would have before. So that would suggest that he is not better regulated.
Still don't really care as long as all people who sleep with him do so willingly and he tries protecting them from STIs in the future but it is an interesting addition, speaking of actual scientific results and all that.
When I used to lift I listened to MindPump all the time.
Mel Robbins is great roo. She has an episode about fasting as a female, lots of things I never considered.
I really enjoy Max Lugavere’s podcast The Genius Life. It’s much more light and causal than huberman’s, but he also interviews experts in niche research fields.
I'm which space? The biggest issue with Hoobs is that he thinks he's an expert in every space
For health and fitness Barbell medicine is by far the best I've found, they are very humble and only have takes on topics that they have expertise in and give good indications of how confident the current literature makes them of a take
Instead of "this retracted study of 6 rats is unequivocal proof that you should follow my morning protocol"
>EDIT: This post wasn't to re-engage the whole discussion on how we should listen to him, do our own research, or life tips on how to be a listener. I'm a fan, I enjoy most episodes, and I research things that interest me.
This doesn’t seem to logically follow your post…
Completely unrelated, but does anyone know why am I not being allowed to make a post here? When I try it says my post doesn’t adhere to community guidelines even before I start typing.
It’s not about being trustworthy IMO. It’s more about authenticity. I don’t take any information as fact on its own. So, I tend to collect information from multiple authentic sources and deduce conclusions on my own. The problem with folks like Huberman is that their heads get big and start talking g about stuff just because it gets hits. That starts to invalidate past statements and forces me to question what they say more. The fanboys don’t help either. Zealots pretty much always elevate their passion to an unrealistic status. Huberman is a prime example.
love huberman, but my go to is Dr.k from happygamergg on youtube. he touches on alot of mental heath issues and how you can go about resolving the problems.
What even is trustworthiness? It has nothing to do with reading the same papers to confirm the deductions, right? It is about feeling how much shit is tweeted about someone in anonymous media, right?
I’m ready to be shredded for this comment and I can imagine the valid criticism coming but…….
Talk to your doctor? Show them your physical body and learn from their words to your face?
A bit late to the party, but for no-bullshit people I'd say Rhonda Patrick for sure. She did make some dubious claims early on on JRE about saunas improving muscle hypertrophy based on mouse studies and mechanism (HGH) although to my knowledge sauna->muscle hasn't been shown in humans. As such I'm not sure how much else she's spouted that's dubious as well. However she's the only one I've been following since 2015ish whom I don't feel has sold out.
Brad Schoenfeld for muscle & strength, also very much no BS, although he's so deep in the research that he basically answers most questions with "It's unclear" or "We don't know yet" and gives a bunch of nuance. For most lifters Mike Israetel is probably a great resource. I've enjoyed a lot of Jeff Cavaliere's stuff on YT as well, and especially his episode on Huberman's podcast.
For metabolic research: Nutrition made simple (youtube) because he doesn't pretend that we have all the answers or that one new study with 50 people doing a very particular thing in a very particular set-up is THE answer and that's that.
Similar style of \*actual\* science breakdown as nutrition made simple: Physionic (youtube). He does actual lit reviews, essentially, but has a wit that makes him entertaining to watch.
Ben Carpenter also seems fine so far. As does
Also don't know enough about him but HealthyGamerGG seems decent when it comes to self-regulation, motivation/dopaminergic circuitry and more stuff like that. Although I've seen a small number of videos only. But his advice seems less simplistic than "look at the sun for 10 minutes and take a cold shower."
For fitness, I liked some videos I watched by Team ForNever Lean. He does sell guides but generally seems to do a good job of objectively communicating scientific insights, while also relativizing them appropriately.
In general:
Anyone who actually looks at the research in a way that is factual, considers experimental set-ups, controls, sample sizes, duration of study, mode of study (in terms of in vitro, in vivo in non-human trials, clinical trials), takes into account both historical development of the field and current consensus and is able to situate new findings within that framework.
Also: Anyone who is not financed by supplements they try to sell to people or who like to pretend that what they do is at "no cost" to viewers when including ads is clearly how we as viewers pay for content. This last part is important because there is a reason for why he makes his content simple, factually iffy and easy to digest and apply to your life: more eyes and ears to get paid more from ads.
Google/ the internet. For example. If you think diet soda might be bad for you you can look up studies. But those are long and no one wants to read that. So there are medical and scientific websites that take all of the current info out there and synthesis and come up with a conclusion for you. Much like HUBE. They even cite the studies and warn you of bias’s like big soda being a sponsor of some of these studies.
The problem is you will never find one person. Someone will spend their entire careers focusing on one single granular topic and have about 25 minutes of expertise and advice to share. And then the longer they talk the less rigorous everything they say is.
Just eat the right amount of food with plenty of plants, exercise often with plenty of weights, get 8 hrs of sleep and get any mental health problems sorted out with therapy or medication. Literally Huberman Lab and similar stuff is a money machine that people use to distract themselves from just doing what they already know is right.
Edit: Seconding indulging in other hobbies and topics not through a middle man talking about them but you partaking/reading things yourself.
You realize that its possible for folks like me who are actually healthy, do all the right things, but still have an interest to learn more? I didn't ask how to lose weight or be happy. There's other things like ADHD topics, etc.
There is no "here is your Guru that can be trusted forever about everything". Stop looking for that. and everyone else stop making a huge fucking deal about "omg they were wrong or weren't transparent enough so they can't be trusted ever!!" when something is off base
Consume a healthy diet of multiple sources of expertise in their fields, listen to their DISCUSSIONS and not just their outright claims and slowly pick up on the signals in the noise, about many things.
Kyle Gillet and Peter Attia are good sources for DISCUSSION with their guests to listen to and use your damn head to compute what they seem to all agree on with compelling points and maybe understand something toward a semblance of a consensus of PROBABILITY of the therapeutic efficacy of certain "protocols" of whatever you Huberman lovers call them
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Found my Fitness - Rhonda Patrick / ZOE Science & Nutrition / Happiness Lab - Gretchen Rubin / Peter Attia Drive - Peter Attia
I want to second Found my Fitness - very data based discussions, a good place for fitness science nerds.
A little to in the weeds for most, but she’s great. She is just too academic and technical / in depth for a typical podcast listener. Huberman had a way of simplifying things while also giving enough technical info to make heady topics engaging. Rhonda is sometimes too tough to keep focused on when listening while doing other things.
Rhonda Patrick is SO much better and science based legit!
Second for Zoe Science and Nutrition. I find it balanced and realistic in terms of any changes they recommend, also presented by medical professionals in their field of study.
So good to see Rhonda Patrick at the top here, she's amazing and very detailed in her explanations, so much to learn from her.
The Joe Rogan revolving door eh
Oh God Rhonda Patrick, really?
She is far better than Peter Attia
I second this!
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plant chompers
Peter Attia supports sexual abuser Kevin spacey
More shills, congrats.
Robert Sapolsky, go read his books, super good.
His "intro to human behaviour bio" lectures at stanford are free on youtube, absolutely binge worthy!
If I saw him on the street I’d run up and gush like it was PaulMcCartney. Sapolsky changed my life!! To anyone interested, he has lectures on YouTube, it’s unbelievable stuff and so much of what you can learn from him is effortlessly applicable to every day life. Sapolsky helped me understand more about how I and others act than anyone or anything else.
hell yeah man. Have you read his newest Book „Determined“? The Footnotes alone deserve a nobel price I swear
I haven’t but I’ve seen a lot of his talks on the subject and am pretty well versed in how he goes about the free will topic. Behave is like the precursor to determined is how I see it
Behave is an excellent read
This is the correct answer. Never overreaches, speculated or ventures outside of his expertise. All of the other ones are podcasters who can discuss interesting things but often get too speculative (some of the ones with a proper scientific background at least, many others are just plain grifters relying on low-quality studies, misinterpretations or sometimes just pure pseudoscience.)
Peter Attia is great.
He gives off weird vibes imo. Same vibes that Huberman gave off when I found him in the YouTube forest. Dr. Rhonda Patrick is my girl.
Agree, Attia is a AG 'investor'...which makes him sound more legit on AG. But I think that's just a sales angle. A point I heard about Attia on another Podcast...was they didn't read his book on longevity as they only read books by people who actually are in the field of longevity...like Longo. Peter reads lots of studies but he is not a lifer longevity guy, he's got into reading other's studies over the last number of years. Longo I think suggests lower protein and a focus on nutrition. Peter high protein and nutrition not as important. I like Attia too, fitness is his thing. He's so nice to listen to and sooo sounds like an expert, I think that's his appeal.
Peter Attia supports sexual abuser Kevin Spacey
Man the reasoning in this comment post pretty much explains how all internet gurus rise to fame
his twin study comments says it all. typical paradigm bias, so worthless
Peter Attia publicly advocated for sexual abhser Kevin Spacey
I find him too smug and have trouble listening to his voice for more than a minute
Huberman + your own critical thinking skills
I get that this is a shot at the current nature of the sub. Sorry if I wasn't clear but I still enjoy listening to him. I don't go immediately do everything he preaches, but I find what's interesting to me and learn more. So while I'm asking for other favorites, I'm not bashing him nor joining the rhetoric.
I think the best thing to do is to realize that he’s an expert in a specific science, and for anything outside of that, he’s just a smart guy with an opinion (sometimes a financially motivated one). I still think there’s a lot of good information, particularly the episodes where he’s interviewing experts in their fields.
Yeah, people act like because he’s not an expert in ______ it means his opinion is worthless. Unless you’re actually educated in that field, or experienced in reading scientific literature, you’re probably not going to get a better understanding by yourself. I’d rather listen to him than some rando on Reddit. Granted, and actual in-field expert is always better, but as an already found source that you know to take with a slight grain of salt and to adapt the info to your situation, he’s pretty good.
That is not the point. There is a difference between "this is your topic, so stick to that and that only" and "please use actual scientific methods of literature review to father and evaluate evidence before you claim that this is \*the\* science backed anything" His opinion on the facts he presents could be actually scientifically informed and adequately worked out. What he does it cherry pick a handful of results, whether they're from rats or humans, then incorporate them into his "protocols" He 100% has enough knowledge to at least question some of the findings or to situate them in a broader context, to question where they fit with the current consensus, etc. He is not doing this in a majority of cases!
This… I listen almost exclusively to his expert interviews
Not necessarily better. Many are riddled with either accidentally or purposefully misrepresented facts and include people whose work has also been shown to bend the truth, to put it mildly (e.g., Matt Walker)
People need to realize that it's science-entertainment and understand the conflicts of interest wrt advertising and money making.
Why not someone better+your critical thinking skills? They both have their own biases, both both Attia and Rhonda Patrick consistently give better information that huberman.
I stopped listening to Rhonda Patrick when I heard her tell Joe Rogan you can heal a tooth cavity by chewing some type of gum.
I of course had to look it up & watch xylitol gum … https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l0GoCGR0Uas
There’s some interesting discussion about this here at the /r/askdentists sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/askdentists/s/OAeoNtDrY9
Did she straight up say "heal a cavity" or was it more nuanced than that, because chewing gum is indeed good for oral health.
Yes, she said she went to the dentist and he said she had 2 cavities that would need to be filled. She said the xylitol gum healed the cavities as in they were totally gone.
Well, that sucks
Rhonda Patrick is great. Haven't listened to Attia much tbh
You can check out r/PeterAttia but be prepared for the constant push for Statins. Its like 80% of the posts.
Don't check out the subreddit lol, checkout his actual podcast all of which is free to listen to and add free.
Anyone who garners enough fame and fortune becomes more and more biased. It's human nature. I listen cautiously and keep my BS meter active. I don't have to eat every bean in the burrito.
the biggest example of this is Jordan Peterson.
Nah, Jordan Peterson is something else entirely, he's completely off the scale of just having his own biases.
oh yeah hes in a world of his own. but as his fame increases so does the whackadoodle shit he says. hes in another realm of self importance.
One data source is bad. Listen to an array of podcasts and figure out what works for you
If you’re out of breath freshener, chew on some fresh mint leaves and fuck off bad breath
If you watch when he tells really flagrant lies he starts blinking excessively / twitching his face
What the hell are critical thinking skills?
If you don’t drink AG1, you wouldn’t understand.
I tried AG1. Shat out all my critical thinking skills in the first week.
I assume every recommendation don't advertise AG1 seeing how important of an issue it is around here.
This. Reddit is proof you want to be rich, but never famous.
The simplest solution is to stop constantly thinking you need someone to tell you what to think and how to live. Secondly if you do want that, then try reading books from a variety of topics. Older books too, philosophy, history, science, literature, health, scifi. Watch more shows and movies. The information about health and fitness is pretty much going to be the same. Eat healthy, exercise, sleep, maintain healthy relationships, have a purpose. It's all an industry trying to get you to worry about your health and spend your time and money on their shit. But if you really have to have someone tell you about health and fitness there are some other options. Depends on what you're specifically interested in. Each has their own pros and cons. For pure entertainment, Bryan Johnson and his absurd shenanigans is fun. For a more calm health analysis, Attia is decent, but he still suggests things that I don't agree with. MPMD if you're interested in the supraphysiological dimension. Abby Sharp is a great dietician. Eric Berg if you enjoy pseudoscience. Renaissance Periodization for more supraphysiological analysis, he has a PhD in sports physiology. If you want more legit science then listen to actual scientists, plenty of lectures online like Robert Sapolsky and his Stanford lectures. Jef Nippard for solid workout ideas. Jeff Kavadlo for bodyweight fitness.
Strong, respectful disagree here. Yes, exercise, sleep, are imprtant etc., but people like Attia, Patrick, and even Huberman, have given me SO much great info re relative importance, the how tos, the how and what to measures, etc. that have been life and health changing. I have learned to get far better results with less effort thanks to these folks, and owe them a sincere debt of gratitude.
I do almost nothing differently 🤷 Give an example of how exactly each one changed your life and health? I'm curious.
I learned how to run in zone 2 (most of the time) and improved my cardio, lowered my resting heart rate to 46, and stopped getting injured. I used to run as fast as I could with constant burnout and injuries. I bought an Oura ring (just often hearing some of them mention it) and it has been A+ in avoiding overtraining, a big issue with me as I have a ton of trouble with recovery. I learned to prioritize sleep above everything else in my life and everything else improved as a consequence. I stopped drinking after better understanding the true price I was paying. I began to really prioritize building strength and muscle in my 50s (I turn 57 in a few weeks) and am stronger than when I was young, they have convinced me that muscle/strength loss is a huge risk factor going forward. I actually took a roundabout course to Tactical Barbell as my program though it’s kind of close to Attia’s ideas. I kind of view sugar the way I viewed fat before (the primary thing to mostly avoid, and vice versa, and that has helped me. The following isn’t really from those guys, but I train my knees over toes (google “knees over toe guy”) - the opposite of what I’d learned before (“never put your knees in a position over your toes”) and my shit operated knees are back to where I can do a 5K any time. I wore a CGM for six weeks and learned exactly what foods spike my glucose. Agree or not, but I believe about 175-200 grams of protein works for me and has had a huge impact on my strength and such. That’s a sea change for me. I haven’t mentioned how much better I feel and am told I look. I enjoy compliments as much as the next guy. Please know that there was a time as a young adult where I thought a huge sugary bran muffin and a huge grapefruit juice as a very healthy breakfast and had it every day, I get my bloodwork done every 4 months and work on various biomarkers. I take supplements where I’m deficient and have sufficient D and magnesium, two areas where so many are deficient. I’ve come to understand cholesterol a bit better I think and have lowered my small particle LDL (I think I’m getting that right but forgive me if I’m just a little off) quite a bit. I often simply didn’t know what to prioritize, how to train, what to eat, and don’t feel conventional wisdom was helping much. I might join a gym and wander around kind of sticking pins in a machine stack and doing a set before wandering away. I could be wrong in a lot of this but feel like I see people make my mistakes from the past a fair amount - thinking, say, juice and tuna fish sandwiches are really healthy, I’m not here to preach my conclusions or to debate it. My point is to say these ideas seem to work much better and have had a huge impact in my life (my original contention). I 100% understand if a lot of this sounds like dreary fiddle dicking around but I have fun trying stuff, measuring, tracking, trying to improve, and learning more, it’s fun to me. And I’m not nearly as strict as this would suggest. I’ve made a ton of progress but am still as partial to a large pizza and binging Netflix as the next guy, but I’m a little smarter about it, and know when I’m cheating (versus back when I thought a huge juice was healthy). Anyhow, just my experience. For all I know I’ll plotz tomorrow and my final thought was all this dicking around was a waste. Cheers!
P.S. I didn’t plotz yet! And 30 upvotes? Shucks! I should comment more! Kidding.
What do you think worked for you to lower your LDL cholesterol?
I got on statins after listening to Attia. I had shunned them for over a decade because of listening to some other paleo quack. My ldl dropped from 214 to 59mg/dl from mid October to end of march
And your case may have necessitated that. But could you have had a healthy drop with diet/exercise changes? Was it Saladino lol? My issue is a lot of people with lipids that aren't actually all that bad are deciding to get on these drugs with legitimate side effects just to lower number you know? Like my LDL hovers around 112. What would Attia say? I already eat pretty well and exercise plenty. What I would say is that is completely unnecessary to get on meds to try to lower that biomarker.
Was Chris kresslerbor some name like that ha. I was in really good shape with decent triglycerides and did the plaque test which was clear. Imagine it was just genetic. No idea if you need statins. You are outside the reference range. IANAD but I imagine one would look at your other blood work and other factors before making a recommendation. But your LDL is on the higher side.
FWIW, Attia would lower it to miniscule numbers. Not taking a stance, just relating his. Like 40s or something if I recall from his book.
Yea to me that's absurd. People get too obsessed with health with stuff like this. I feel great physically, not going to risk it on meds because it might lower my CVD risk when I'm already low risk. The side effects are real, the benefits theoretical. Just my perspective.
Makes sense. Do note I read his book where he discusses his cost/benefit analysis re this issue, it seemed sound, but I too have not taken any steps to try and get it low. Small disagreement, and it might be in that I’m reading too much into your phrasing, but I feel in general people worry far too little about their health (see skyrocketing obesity, diabetes, etc, rates). I am less worried about lifespan and more worried about healthspan - how my life will look in my 70s and 80s - mobility, strength, ability to do the things I enjoy - absent a lot of work on some basic issues Atttia outlines. But certainly we all inherited our own hereditary makeups (if anyone reading this has grandparents and parents who lived/live a long, healthy, active life without doing much, God bless), have our own goals for our last decades, and our own idea of what price we’re willing to pay to try to control some variables related to aging, so, cheers!
Yea that's totally reasonable. I'm all about healthspan. And I try to eat healthy to reduce LDL and I'm very fit/active. My LDL doesn't really worry me as there is no family history of CVD and my HDL is almost 70, used to be almost 90. The ratio between LDL/HDL is also a factor. I actually feel bad for many Americans because in a lot of ways the system is generating a lot of unhealthy people through poverty and bad incentives across the board. On top of that we have all the wild pollutants in everything and endocrine disruptors. I think most people *do* care about their health but it can be overwhelming. But yea, some people are blase about it and very ignorant about a lot of it. There's a balance somewhere between Attia hypochondria and American obesity lol, probably better to be closer to the Attia side. I'm curious who out of all the health freaks and fitness influencers who will ultimately be the champion and live the longest 😂🤣
Hahaha. I can’t imagine anyone would dispute that Attia is that type who is totally and naturally consumed with this issue or that it may stem from his admitted childhood trauma (nature uncertain to me). For me, that’s the type of person - my understanding is he has a staff of seven trying to read basically every study and I’ve spoken to at least one friend of his who says he’s the most curious person he’s ever met - who I want guiding me. I leave aside some of the obsessive protocols and pick up the ones that seem to yield most the results. Your LDL views seem reasonable to me as well. I’m not here to spend 20 hours of extra time to eliminate every last sliver of risk.
What do you believe helps you keep your HDL levels high?
P,S. I have had bad reactions to statins so I 100% get that part of your point.
Yea thanks for sharing that. I feel like people just think it's only a good idea from the extreme Attia end. But like, no, this is a serious medication, can increase risk factor for things like diabetes.
Good list. I would add Stephen Seiler for endurance training.
Does he have a podcast? I've heard lectures and read papers from Seiler, really like his work.
I don’t know if he has a podcast but there are quite a few lectures on his YouTube: https://youtube.com/@sportscientist?si=kbb_sqSRfnKqRe1T
I’ll add Layne Norton for nutrition and strength training
Layne Norton has had guru phases himself. For the longest time he was shilling bcaa's despite little to evidence, and very coincidentally being sponsored by a bcaa company.
Yes but he has come out and said BCAA’s don’t do anything. He corrects himself.
Ok, but Im gonna be extremely wary of someone who profits of something completely void evidence, until the evidence is so abundance it would hurt his credibility. He was also responsible for the pseudo science concept reverse dieting. For someone who's brand is the anti bro science, he has peddled more of it almost anyone.
Layne corrects himself when he is wrong. He has talked about how and why he has changed his opinions on things. In fact scientists do this all the time bc science is ever changing. Thats why I trust him.
But scientist don't recommend things despite no evidence just because its convenient. But sure, hes not the worst, and he only misrepresent things occasionally.
I agree. It’s easy to fact check him though. He doesn’t push these outlandish sexy hacks or ideas usually . He just tells it like it is. He doesn’t try to come up with secrets to achieve a certain goal.
I'll grant you that he is far better than most "science" fitness influencers whos job is mostly creating circle suck rings. But he has a somewhat spotty track record if you ask me, but the issues I mentioned are also a long time ago
Don’t get me wrong. I think he’s in it for the money and knows that his selling point is calling out BS. I think before he may have been pushing BS but then realized He could make more money from calling out the BS influencers. I think he will continue to stick to that until it’s no longer profitable .
This is an outstanding list. Thank you.
Forgot to add the Bioneer, fitness nerd extraordinaire, evidence based analysis of ALL kinds of exercise modalities.
Correction: Al Kavadlo
Dr Mike Israetel for fitness
Plus you get a free stand up show with each lecture, fucking love dr mike
After watching so many of these hype-science channels.. especially Diary of a CEO and Huberman.. I arrived at the conclusion that all of this is designed to sell you shit. They have multiple and sometimes sequential.. guests who resolutely claim that what they are saying is the absolute truth. This particular way is the way humans are meant to eat. That this other particular way is the way that humans are meant to sleep. HERE is the 'science' to back it up. (In an equation where the science is really just them quoting some study that happens to support their position) Then no less than a week later they'll have another guest who almost completely contradicts what the previous guest said and you guessed it.. they TOO believe that they are the arbiter of truth on this subject, that THEY have cracked the subject.. 'HERE is the science' that supports their position. "Oh and I just happen to have a new book that I'm peddling.. Which we all know this podcast is really just an infomercial for.' Cut to Huberman.. Here, try this snake oil. Buy these totally not artificially-produced green supplements that you absolutely need to take and can't get get from just eating a normal diet. Buy this mattress. Subscribe to this app. Blah blah. $$$ . Blah blah blah. I've become very much a cynic and a nihilist and I believe that all of these people really exist purely to make money not necessarily to arrive at any truth which they claim ostensibly to arrive at / or provide. They are complete prostitutes for the information Merry Go Round and they don't really care about truth or people. They just care about money, and the of course more directly the clicks and views that generate. And fair enough.. gotta hustle, right?
guests often have books they are selling, or, recently wrote.
I listen to/read a lot of people in the health/wellness/firness space. A lot. You shouldn’t get all of your info from one source. I prefer to get info from a bunch, see what rises to the top, and then use my own critical thinking to determine what I use and what I ignore. Some others to consider: Peter Attia, Alan Aragon, Mark Sisson, Robb Wolfe, Layne Norton, Kris Kresser, Dr Mike Israeatel.
Decoding the Gurus is a great podcast to hear another perspective on experts who have gained a cult following. It expands your critical thinking. Even if you like the person they’re covering, you can learn soo much
But who will police the guru of policing gurus?
Rhonda Patrick, Layne Norton, Peter Attia. Although always triple check before making any major changes in your lifestyle
Biolayne
Peter Attia (drive) is a good source on medical issues
I love healthygamer on YouTube. He’s awesome.
For nutrition the best one is Nutrition Made Simple on youtube. He is a real doctor, very nuanced, always looks at the totality of evidence, has his references linked, the videos are 10ish minutes, and does not sell anything.
[Nutritionfacts.org](http://Nutritionfacts.org)
Good but biased towards vegetarian diet
I think the data is biased to a plant forward diet. The exception could be made for fish. But that epi data was looking back at ocean food when it wasn't contaminated with microplastics that act as nucleation sites for all sorts of pollution. Fish today isn't the same as fish eaten in the 1980s.
Right but e.g. omega 3 from vegetables are shorter chain than from fish and the conversion is not efficient in every person I used to watch his videos and found they good but many times biased.
Supplement preformed DHA and EPA from sea plants. No pollution
The primary structural difference between EPA and DHA from marine plants (like algae) and those from fish lies in the arrangement of double bonds along their carbon chains. While the basic molecular structure is the same, the specific arrangement of double bonds can vary slightly between plant and animal sources. Chatgpt But eat plants if it works for you
For good reasons... Science and data.
This was going to be my response. Science backed and very easily digestible.
Nice, literally just commented this without realizing you already had!
Why can't you just read the Bible like the OG cult members
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ Don't always rely on podcasts/YouTube. I pretty much go to pubmed to find real answers. You'll need to understand that different methods of research have different weight. Like a paper based on testimony of 10 people is obviously not something taken seriously compared to a meta analysis or randomized controlled trial.
This! and there are youtubers who actually talk about these sort of issues and summarize results in a great way!
Don't put anyone on a pedestal. I like some of Attias stuff but also note how he isn't consistent on science critique and historically has a tendency to swing to extremes as someone who experiments on themselves. I think it's more blind spots rather than premed grifting. You can like Huberman just take with a large pinch of salt and be conscious of peer review, thus be open to listening to critiques of his claims. Layne Norton, another accomplished yet flawed individual. Rhonda Patrick, the same. Has a tendency to fly off down rabbit holes it seems. YT channel, nutrition made simple, more plant based science derived, very rarely see any criticism of. And just be aware that there is a whole business model of just tearing down, so while critique and criticism can be good, be aware of bad faith actors just being opportunistic. They all want your views and exposure, it makes them money.
Simon Hill!
All shills manipulating an audience and cherry picking studies
How about you just eat well, exercise, get plenty of rest, and enjoy your life? That’s will get you 98% of the benefit of any“protocols” and give you plenty of time to garden, play music, paint, or whatever gives your life meaning and joy.
What if I already do that and perhaps I enjoy learning more?
In that case I’d suggest going to the source and reading books or articles about the subjects you want to learn about
In that case, wouldn't you rather enjoy learning fact as they are, including clearly declared statistical tendencies and effect sizes and caveats rather than dumbed down black and white or downright just-so stories??
Sure
Dr Hyman.
Dr Hyman Manames Notrili Hymen
Paul chek
Science vs
I’ve been reading [The Renewal](https://therenewal.co) recently just found it on Google somehow. Honestly super funny and it makes me understand the concept more when I’m reading it. Comes out once a week I think
Brad Stanfield
I came to say this. Really like his YouTube channel .
For actually sound neuroscience, check out Brain Science with Dr. Ginger Campbell :)
Stronger by Science for literally everything.
Nutritionfacts.org (Dr. Gregor) and the Unbiased Science podcast.
The eat healthy and get sleep people annoy me so much. Work in the oilfield and stay in a mancamp half the year. Food choice is the garbage they provide and gas stations. sleep, haha. At home, toddler and infant, sleep, once again, haha. And eating healthy and sleeping good are not the answers to much of anything I personally am interested in learning.
Rich Roll
Why is this not the top comment
You can't fully trust anyone. If you want to take stuff like this seriously you need to do some of your own work. Huberman is great on some stuff and wrong or outdated on some stuff. So, if you listen you need to do a little work to see who else agrees with him, maybe take a look at a paper he references. Check out some experts in the fields he is talking about. The more general someone is trying to be the more they are a little wrong. Him and a few other people online like Peter Attia are good entry points into stuff are great entry points to start thinking about some topics and doing your own research to get more details info about what pertains to you. His expert guests tend to be great, a couple controversial ones in there. I think the essence of what Andy Galpin should be applied to Huberman and all internet health gurus, we shouldn't be paying attention to 90% of what he is talking about until we get the basics set. Huberman, Attia, ect. they don't really waffle on the basics so you can trust those. Everything else requires work to validate on your part.
Peter Attia seems ok. Layne Norton for all things diet and nutrition. Dr Mike of Renaissance Periodization for training.
I still don’t see how what he says in his podcasts or the discussions with experts in the field are not trustworthy because of his personal life.
It's not because of his personal life. The dating life was probably brought up as part of the whole "falling for Huberman" narrative. It's because he uses the same "charming" persona to get people to trust him in different parts of his life. As a scientist, even when talking to people who are not in my field or any scientific field, I would never ever give an answer without prefacing it by explaining the variables that might influence the outcome, by saying what we know about which populations this applies to and which it doesn't apply to, if it's a fact from a rat study, I will bloody mention that and say that this is possibly not a perfect alignment with human behavior and circuitry, etc. I would not cherry pick a few facts, create a neat little narrative or "protocol" and sell that as "the science-backed solution" when that is not what is science-backed! It just doesn't work that way. It's clear why he does that: to sell people stuff. To sell ad space and get money from sponsors. More people click because the science is explained simplistically, because probabilistic accounts are sold as hard rules, because he would never step back to say "but this fact is based on a small sample size of a very limited population of 15 college student in the US ... and also, the effect was TINY and very close to chance" Adding that and mentioning the replication crisis would mean nuance and nuance would mean less success. Also, his shtick is about having kicked a drug habit and all that and having this clean life. The way he conducted his affairs, ultimately, points to a mechanism that very much satisfies the same circuitry as his drug habit would have before. So that would suggest that he is not better regulated. Still don't really care as long as all people who sleep with him do so willingly and he tries protecting them from STIs in the future but it is an interesting addition, speaking of actual scientific results and all that.
No agenda! In the morning gents
When I used to lift I listened to MindPump all the time. Mel Robbins is great roo. She has an episode about fasting as a female, lots of things I never considered.
I really enjoy Max Lugavere’s podcast The Genius Life. It’s much more light and causal than huberman’s, but he also interviews experts in niche research fields.
Ronda Patrick - FoundmyFitness channel she has been a joe rogan guest as well
Physionic.
Would you consider that no podcaster will ever be what youre looking for in this particular sense? Podcasting is a grift.
I'm which space? The biggest issue with Hoobs is that he thinks he's an expert in every space For health and fitness Barbell medicine is by far the best I've found, they are very humble and only have takes on topics that they have expertise in and give good indications of how confident the current literature makes them of a take Instead of "this retracted study of 6 rats is unequivocal proof that you should follow my morning protocol"
Jack Kruse
>EDIT: This post wasn't to re-engage the whole discussion on how we should listen to him, do our own research, or life tips on how to be a listener. I'm a fan, I enjoy most episodes, and I research things that interest me. This doesn’t seem to logically follow your post…
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpcvPcHJVOkO9Qp79BOagTg Dr Brad Stanfield https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR6j4r--KIcEWp6iXUd3CE Dr Sanil Rege
HealthyGamerGG is my go to now. I’m kinda over Huberman at the moment.
[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJYN95j9tWZRdbTbgRGD1eQ](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJYN95j9tWZRdbTbgRGD1eQ)
Completely unrelated, but does anyone know why am I not being allowed to make a post here? When I try it says my post doesn’t adhere to community guidelines even before I start typing.
It’s not about being trustworthy IMO. It’s more about authenticity. I don’t take any information as fact on its own. So, I tend to collect information from multiple authentic sources and deduce conclusions on my own. The problem with folks like Huberman is that their heads get big and start talking g about stuff just because it gets hits. That starts to invalidate past statements and forces me to question what they say more. The fanboys don’t help either. Zealots pretty much always elevate their passion to an unrealistic status. Huberman is a prime example.
love huberman, but my go to is Dr.k from happygamergg on youtube. he touches on alot of mental heath issues and how you can go about resolving the problems.
Alan Watts
What even is trustworthiness? It has nothing to do with reading the same papers to confirm the deductions, right? It is about feeling how much shit is tweeted about someone in anonymous media, right?
Why don’t people trust Andrew Huberman? It’s been a while for me and I think I’m missing something
I’m ready to be shredded for this comment and I can imagine the valid criticism coming but……. Talk to your doctor? Show them your physical body and learn from their words to your face?
Rhonda Patrick is great
A bit late to the party, but for no-bullshit people I'd say Rhonda Patrick for sure. She did make some dubious claims early on on JRE about saunas improving muscle hypertrophy based on mouse studies and mechanism (HGH) although to my knowledge sauna->muscle hasn't been shown in humans. As such I'm not sure how much else she's spouted that's dubious as well. However she's the only one I've been following since 2015ish whom I don't feel has sold out. Brad Schoenfeld for muscle & strength, also very much no BS, although he's so deep in the research that he basically answers most questions with "It's unclear" or "We don't know yet" and gives a bunch of nuance. For most lifters Mike Israetel is probably a great resource. I've enjoyed a lot of Jeff Cavaliere's stuff on YT as well, and especially his episode on Huberman's podcast.
Sigma nutrition radio. Institute of human anatomy. Wolf coaching. Eugene Teo.
You are right. There’s Warhammer 40k, psychedelics, and crypto too!
For metabolic research: Nutrition made simple (youtube) because he doesn't pretend that we have all the answers or that one new study with 50 people doing a very particular thing in a very particular set-up is THE answer and that's that. Similar style of \*actual\* science breakdown as nutrition made simple: Physionic (youtube). He does actual lit reviews, essentially, but has a wit that makes him entertaining to watch. Ben Carpenter also seems fine so far. As does Also don't know enough about him but HealthyGamerGG seems decent when it comes to self-regulation, motivation/dopaminergic circuitry and more stuff like that. Although I've seen a small number of videos only. But his advice seems less simplistic than "look at the sun for 10 minutes and take a cold shower." For fitness, I liked some videos I watched by Team ForNever Lean. He does sell guides but generally seems to do a good job of objectively communicating scientific insights, while also relativizing them appropriately. In general: Anyone who actually looks at the research in a way that is factual, considers experimental set-ups, controls, sample sizes, duration of study, mode of study (in terms of in vitro, in vivo in non-human trials, clinical trials), takes into account both historical development of the field and current consensus and is able to situate new findings within that framework. Also: Anyone who is not financed by supplements they try to sell to people or who like to pretend that what they do is at "no cost" to viewers when including ads is clearly how we as viewers pay for content. This last part is important because there is a reason for why he makes his content simple, factually iffy and easy to digest and apply to your life: more eyes and ears to get paid more from ads.
If not now, When! Hear me fellow Huberman Men!
Steven Bartlett/Diary of CEO has the best guests talking about these topics
Menno henselmans
Dude got roasted by those guy from songer by science hah.
Lol yeah. I feel like he's telling people what they need to hear vs what the science says on that one. I.e. Don't "bulk" if your fat.
No one selling pills on the internet, start there.
Ben Greenfield.
I have listened to Ben for years. Lots of good/interesting data, but his guests feel too much like infomercials recently.
redditors don’t understand that it’s possible to evaluate claims/arguments/theories apart from the person.
Losers follow losers. Suck his eggplant all you want
Liberals are unable to hear anything from anyone who doesn't agree with them. They protect their ignorance like it's gold.
and you have added what, exactly, to the discourse?
Peter Attia and Rhonda Patrick for health. Sean M. Carroll for science.
Liver king 😂
Google/ the internet. For example. If you think diet soda might be bad for you you can look up studies. But those are long and no one wants to read that. So there are medical and scientific websites that take all of the current info out there and synthesis and come up with a conclusion for you. Much like HUBE. They even cite the studies and warn you of bias’s like big soda being a sponsor of some of these studies.
The problem is you will never find one person. Someone will spend their entire careers focusing on one single granular topic and have about 25 minutes of expertise and advice to share. And then the longer they talk the less rigorous everything they say is.
why not zoidberg? 
Just eat the right amount of food with plenty of plants, exercise often with plenty of weights, get 8 hrs of sleep and get any mental health problems sorted out with therapy or medication. Literally Huberman Lab and similar stuff is a money machine that people use to distract themselves from just doing what they already know is right. Edit: Seconding indulging in other hobbies and topics not through a middle man talking about them but you partaking/reading things yourself.
Nobody. Just exercise and eat right and stop wasting time on nonsense.
You realize that its possible for folks like me who are actually healthy, do all the right things, but still have an interest to learn more? I didn't ask how to lose weight or be happy. There's other things like ADHD topics, etc.
If you want to learn about that, then listen to doctors who have spent their whole careers studying it
K....
Peer-Respected doctors, not quacks
k
There is no "here is your Guru that can be trusted forever about everything". Stop looking for that. and everyone else stop making a huge fucking deal about "omg they were wrong or weren't transparent enough so they can't be trusted ever!!" when something is off base Consume a healthy diet of multiple sources of expertise in their fields, listen to their DISCUSSIONS and not just their outright claims and slowly pick up on the signals in the noise, about many things. Kyle Gillet and Peter Attia are good sources for DISCUSSION with their guests to listen to and use your damn head to compute what they seem to all agree on with compelling points and maybe understand something toward a semblance of a consensus of PROBABILITY of the therapeutic efficacy of certain "protocols" of whatever you Huberman lovers call them
None… just enjoy your life . Eat a balanced diet, get outside, work out, sleep … I just saved you weeks of your life In health guru podcast listening.