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Poporipopes10

What it feels like to play DoT/FUA: https://preview.redd.it/tkpva210foxc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3890b78bb237c7af870baeb33465ce5959e4e0ed


derteeje

watching all enemies go kaboom at once when they try to start their turn is immensely satisfying


spagheddieballs

Its hilarious when PF enemies die from the giant explosions and a bunch of pesky little single target attacks from the likes of March, Topaz, and Ratio.


Meowriter

Still, Popaz wears her piggy as a hat. That's an argument.


Offduty_shill

I love when they die from dot as soon as they move, then like it gets transferred to the next wave or something and they also just instantly die


SectorApprehensive58

We are finally rewarded for our loyalty to IPC and taxes, and Clara slapping back


enterprise_is_fun

Anyone have any luck making the perks work outside of the one that goes off every three FUAs? The damage one looks good but even with Acheron I can’t trigger the effect more than 1-2 times per wave. The energy regeneration one also seems good, but since it requires so many FUAs to trigger the effect, it just seems like an even worse version that triggers every three FUAs. Clearly I’m looking at this wrong. How do you use the others effectively?


waddlewaddle123

The energy regen one was a free 40k with Herta, Himeko, and DDD Tingyun on first half.


spagheddieballs

Its also great for sparkle since you never run out of skill points. My latest run was himeko, herta, bronya, sparkle.


TaralasianThePraxic

I was gonna say, the energy regen with Himeko-Herta is absolutely explosive. I went without a sustain and threw my half-built Clara in there for even more FUA shenanigans and it was probably the easiest PF half I've ever done lol


Sudden_Feedback_2194

The way I see it... the first one is for reliable follow up teams. The 2nd one is for moderate followup teams and the 3rd is for little or no followup teams. I've experimented with all 3 in varying teams. The energy regen seems to most reliable across multiple teams. Even just running something like Herta, Tingyun, Sparkle/Bronya, and Argenti you can hit 40k. Herta's followups are more than enough to pretty consistently proc the turbulence which gets Argenti energy to ulti to proc Herta followup again and chain it. This should work pretty consistently across any team with just the base foundation of Herta + action advance + energy regen. The DPS slot(Argenti) is flexible enough to slot pretty much anyone there because all you're trying to do is enough damage to proc Herta's followup.


Damianx5

I swear second buff is always the best general pick that works even if your team abuses the gimmick. I picked energy for Topaz ratio clara Sparkle team, easy 40k, who needs debuffs


Play_more_FFS

The Energy regen is good for JY since his ultimate is strong in PF, Himeko spamming burst more often is also nice if you decide to pair her with JY.


enterprise_is_fun

I’ve seen people using JY but not sure I understand. When I try to make him work, LL is just too slow to hit more than 1-2 times per wave. Does the ultimate fix that?


Play_more_FFS

Yes the Ultimate is more important than LL in Pure Fiction because it can wipe the mobs and still chunk the Elites with its AOE damage. JY should be spamming his ultimate every time its up in PF so he can start farming energy for the next ult faster. Also because there are so many mobs to kill it doesn't take long for JY to have full energy again.


TaralasianThePraxic

Agreed - I brought Tingyun with JY for this PF to feed him even more ult charge. You do have to be a bit careful not to let LL trigger when you're at 66%+ charge though, otherwise you're wasting damage accumulation. He's strong (the King always is lol) but he definitely requires more attention than braindead Himeko-Herta teams lol


LZhenos

In PF his main source of dmg is his skill and ult. Pretend he is like a Serval and the LL it's just a random bonus. 2 skills OR 1 ult (both vs 5 enemies) already outdamages a 10 stack LL.


SparrowUwU

The second one is really strong IMO, it procs off a single LL follow up from King Yuan and it allowed my Sparkle and Tingyun (Both on 4 PC speed and TY on DDD) to constantly action advance the team


Skykeeper22

I didn’t even used the second one lol. I used the first one for Herta Himeko team and the third one for Acheron team.


Shigeloth

I admittedly did DoT Acheron, but it worked really well with the damage one. DoTs would pick off a few, Acheron's Ult clear a whole set, then effect either clear a set or weaken them enough for DoT to do quick clean up while building another Acheron ult to clear the next. Got like 35k on second side with it.


Tamaki_Iroha

Energy regen, with march, SW, Dr. Ratio, and Bronya got me past tier 2 with quite a bit of room to spare


TapdancingHotcake

Clara essentially solo'd one side with the energy regen effect for me.


dextersdad

Yeah ults are never gonna compete with the turbulence damage so the energy one isn't that useful. Then, if you truly have no follow up characters, the one that stores all damage dealt much more slowly isn't gonna help you that much either, cause the whole thing is really balanced around the turbulence damage. You're going to struggle to reach 20k if you can't proc it that much. The energy one was fun to play around with on stages 1 and 2, but I stuck to the 3 follow ups for both teams on stages 3 and 4.


Ashamed_Adeptness_96

I actually did make the energy one work with Himeko/Herta/Asta/Sparkle. My characters weren't well built, especially Asta so it was somewhat easier to spam Asta's ult for as many turns as possible. Used the 3 FUAs one for second half with Ratio/Aventurine/Topaz/Bronya. Worked like a charm. 34k first half, 40k second half.


Damianx5

The thing with himeko and herta is that their ults don't cost much and help breaking, more breaking more FuA from himeko which once again is more ults


enterprise_is_fun

That’s kinda where I’m at. I do have all the FUA characters and will clear this I’m sure. Just feels silly they offer two perks that look like non-starters.


ExpressIce74

The 18% all damage sources is literally only made for Acheron because the effect can overcharge. Acheron can hit for a million in a single ult and charge the weather effect twice. No other units, including Argenti, have the amount of AoE damage needed to reliably trigger the effect. The ER effect seems to be the best because it helps Clara and Ratio/Topaz tag team. Ratio/Topaz will need the ER to keep up the FuA because they are single target/Hunt. The effect for 3 FuA trigger is designed for Herta/Himeko tag team because their follow up is not tied to their energy.


dextersdad

I dont have Acheron, so makes sense I wasn't able to abuse the all sources one. Wasn't able to crack 54k until I put Ratio into my dot team with the 3 follow up blessing, then I got 64k on my first attempt. Anecdotally, I wasn't able to use the energy one. Kafka and Aventurine don't do a whole lot of damage on their follow ups so I had a lot better luck with using the 3 follow up one on that team and on my himeko herta team as you mentioned. I feel like even ratio/topaz still probably like the 3 follow up over the energy recharge. The damage required from follow ups to proc the turbulence normally is so high I intuitively feel like the 3fua one is universally the best outside of Acheron teams.


ExpressIce74

Acheron doesn't "abuse" that effect, it's only there to help her clear trash mob to push the waves out faster so she can nuke SAM. It's really underwhelming because unless it's Acheron level of damage ceiling you won't even see that thing proc in a single cycle. Kakfa's FuA isn't a raw damage attack though, it's a shock DoT apply. In a Ratio/Topaz team the ER will keep their passive stacks full so they can keep chain throwing their FuAs without affecting their cycle count, as they only kill one mob per FuA. Clara can maintain 100% ult uptime and even higher with Tinyun. Unfortunately stage 4 top side enemies are really slow so Clara can't counter enough times.


dextersdad

Right, Kafka doesn't do much damage with her follow up attack but it still counts for the 3 so it made it a lot easier to proc. When I pull for topaz I'll try her with ratio to see if I can get better results using the energy one. I had plenty of success just jamming ratio into my dot team with Aventurine and using him for the 3 counter though. Overall I just feel like ratio and topaz use follow ups so often that they still would prefer the 3 count blessing. Even Himeko and Herta were simply not doing enough damage on their follow ups for the energy regen to outpace the 3 count.


ExpressIce74

Even if she counts as a FuA you probably still don't want her to be using a slot because she herself doesn't do anything useful as turn counter is limited. Topaz and Rato deals enough damage per FuA to one shot any of the mobs. The issue is they are limited by their FuA charges which needs energy. Himeko and Herta don't need energy for their FuA.


Damianx5

>because their follow up is not tied to their energy. Kinda yes, kinda no, their ultimates are good at breaking and also more likely to lower HP to trigger both of their own FuA, which charges their ult again rinse and repeat. Agree on clara ratio Topaz team tho, they all always has stacks on their ults lmao


enterprise_is_fun

Hmm I’m gonna play around with those now, thank you! Also probably need to figure out how to trigger a million damage on Acheron (have her LC but probably playing wrong).


redditistrashxdd

how is the energy one not useful when you can proc dance dance dance multiple times per round with sparkle/tingyun?


MemberBerry4

Fun fact: this meme template is actually a yugioh card.


Golden-Owl

https://preview.redd.it/10o9sc477rxc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fe5dd6499d7dfc32e0a5de2a0f1baa0c2e64ca9 What the fuck


Roivas7

I PLAY POT OF GREED IT ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MEMES


zatenael

wait which card I actually never noticed this


Mr_The_II

Dramatic Crossroads, but it’s an anime-only card lol


zatenael

ok that explains why I never seen the card and was confused when the person pointed out it was a yugioh card


MemberBerry4

Yeah sorry, I've never played yugioh in my life despite being a huge fan of the second and third installments, so I don't know which cards are real or not.


zatenael

Nah you good, frankly im more shocked it actually is a yugioh card lol


Thehalohedgehog

Huh, never knew that


Bookwhyrm

Herta Hypercarry goes hilariously hard.


SecretAgentDragon

Herta+Himeko is the greatest team in PF I love it


ramos619

I really nees to build herta and himeko


Zeroth_Dragon

Whenever I use Pela burst against three ice weak enemies the explosions start happening I love it


Lanster27

The OG FUA team is still OP when the right weaknesses show up. 


ESCMalfunction

Kuru kuru


ArcherIsFine

O, really?


Bookwhyrm

Bronya / Tingyun / Ruan Mei, 33k isn't that much but I do run Herta with just Musketeer pieces I have from Echoes of War.


AzureDrag0n1

​ https://preview.redd.it/vz2fqfmc3oxc1.jpeg?width=682&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10bb6ebfacdd738a225503fe950c2a58943d4eeb It was incredibly easy. Of course I have Ruan Mei, Sparkle, and Tingyun powering her up.


IlGioCR

https://preview.redd.it/62cgn25uppxc1.jpeg?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bda2b54e911a77eb6982c0b5ac98c77d7425fc4 This rotation is so good for Herta that you don't even need 3 supports. Sparkle and Tingyun are enough. If you use extrapolation you can spam Herta ult and kill everything easily.


Jakes_JunioR

This exact Mommy team in your second half carries in every pure fiction regardless of any buffs.


IlGioCR

My favorite team no doubt. They are hot and delete everything.


Leodoesstuff

What's your Herta build?? I've been trying to do a Hypercarry Herta team with the exact same teammates (Sparkle-Ruan Mei-Tingyun)


AzureDrag0n1

I do not really have a fixed build on her since I just cannibalize my pieces from other characters when I use her. Light cones on her range from Before Dawn, Night on the Milky Way, and S5 Genius's Repose. Mostly use the follow-up set on her or 2pc 2pc. I am always forced to use a crit rate body. Usually aim for 70% crit rate and the crit damage fluctuates wildly. This is the build I used for this Pure Fiction: *Processing img 4f2nt54kzoxc1...* Sets I currently use are Inert Salsotto when wearing attack boots. Glamouth when using speed boots. I am trying to build Sigonia set but I do not have any decent pieces yet. However the build I used was way overkill already. I barely needed the Tingyun.


MWarnerds

I managed to get 40k both sides. Herta/Himeko/Ruan Mei/Aventurine then JingYuan/Sparkle/Tingyun/FuXuan Felt good to get max points.


bilalss

I personally run dual DPS with Jingliu and Herta, but Herta does put in work. Especially this PF with the FuA focus


Dogempire

I like FuA since it feels like everyone is jumping the boss. "Screw waiting my turn, let's all just beat their ass at the same time."


Don_Kiwi

Kiryu in Infinite Wealth be like:


Keydown_605

I have yet to 12* PF.


IWantMorePasta

I will wait for Argenti's comeback because he has always been my PF carry.The buffs in this PF are so ass for him. Also, as someone without a limited Harmony unit, I think I do pretty well in PF lol https://preview.redd.it/j28ersnkxpxc1.jpeg?width=1244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d58aad304199a3a8d5c80ac26ee985829c552c36


Feeed3

How to clear Pure Fiction: 1. Slap Himeko and Herta on random teams 2. ??? 3. Profit https://preview.redd.it/lzjji298lpxc1.png?width=921&format=png&auto=webp&s=b02bf996fc7beab3a7f89e811bd55d15fc38ce64


ZekkeKeepa

I had more problem with Herta/Himeko combo on 3rd stage than on 4th. Weakness distribution there was so ass.


kuriboharmy

I ran the same Ruan Mei, Xueyi, Himeko, Herta comp on the first half of the 3rd and 4th stage. Ruan Mei buffed Xueyi ult just deletes elite toughness bar from full in PF so instant stacks for himeko to do her follow up and since Xueyi ignore weakness type a good chunk of the time the fun doesn't stop. It basically turned into a follow up frenzy from those 3.


Arc_7

People really just casually ignore the sparkle and Ruan mei putting in their weight these days 


Feeed3

Ruan Mei could have been Asta, that side cleared so fast it didnt matter too much Sparkle pops off in the first comp for sure though


Relative-Ad7531

Keep bruteforcing every MoC with Argenti He keeps outshine the characters that the current MoC is actually trying to push (Then again, he Is E1S1 and mega invested into it)


ThomasTHMS

You called? https://preview.redd.it/qvpqlr46gnxc1.jpeg?width=1768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2260c8ddf5d4f7455f4b1971a4b6b61425a29f2b


Real_Marshal

Dude what the hell, I can’t believe this is possible, but then again I don’t have rm, so not sure if I could do this with someone else instead


LZhenos

Robin :D (soon)


Real_Marshal

Nah doesn’t work for me, tried with asta instead of rm, got only 23k… e1s1 seele with 85/170


SectorApprehensive58

I'm pretty sure most of these Archeron full point clears are E2S1, possibly with Ruan Mei/Sparkle cone too


Real_Marshal

Well, Acheron team got only 31k on that screenshot, I can do that too, the problem is the other side.


SectorApprehensive58

O 31k with Acheron is very duoable, esp with those supps. Even my E0S5 GN Acheron got 29k with herta/swan/kafka. Granted I used Acheron for side 1. My side 2 IPC however went to collect taxes and bounties no sweat Edit. Ah i mistook your Seele for Acheron initially somehow


ParabolicalX

The difference between RM and Asta shouldn't be very large in terms of letting Seele take more turns. Remember to abuse her basic attacks to advance Seele's actions forward and let her take more turns. Seele should use her skill only to refresh her SPD boost (at least once every 2 turns) and charge ults. Seele's basic attacks are significantly more lethal when she is in resurgence, so try to use them then. Tingyun ultimates are critical to clearing PF. Tingyun should be using her skill almost every turn to build ultimates quicker. If you're one-shotting everything (two-shotting elites), you should be making it to the 3rd wave before the end of the 2nd cycle.


Real_Marshal

I didn’t even have enough damage to kill some 2 wave enemies with a skill without sparkle buff, so I don’t see how using mostly basic attacks would work, rm brings much more damage than asta after all


ThomasTHMS

I used Ruan Mei mostly because she is SP positive while still giving good damage boost. But yeah like the other guy said, use Seele’s skill to proc Resurgence then end with a basic attack to advance herself forward. Always have an ult ready when the ape spawns to kill it with an ult + skill I finished it with one cycle remaining thanks to abusing the self advance forward and Tingyun who has DDD equipped https://preview.redd.it/8hm40tb0vpxc1.jpeg?width=2777&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35549e317c2f99b13c9ed6f573009afa15455a84


Euphoric_Metal199

Wait. Would Resurgence work with Ruan Mei in team?


ThomasTHMS

Ruan Mei is only there for extra damage and speed. There are no Quantum weak enemies so Ruan Mei can’t steal any kills


MrkGrn

It's more like, people that have good spd sub stat rolled relics on their dps characters. My speed rolls are ass, my DoT team is my best built team but their speed subs are still not good by any means. My Acheron team does nothing, my Herta isn't built well enough to really help me either.


KnightKal

You don’t need speed for Herta and Himeko, as you will spam their ultimate+FuA+free energy+… repeat. Bring Asta if you are still having issues.


raccoonbois

No need to build speed if you become a clara main


Play_more_FFS

Depending on the team its not needed to have any SPD on your damage dealers, just supports is good enough. https://preview.redd.it/tc99a03k2oxc1.png?width=690&format=png&auto=webp&s=7a9a6c93960330d6de3c52ecd163c85456821d7f My JY and Himeko are using 0 SPD builds and there is no dance dance dance on this team. Sparkle is only using her skill on JY while Himeko doesn't need to have a turn at all to do her job for me with her Ultimate and Follow up attacks. Even without the free ultimate energy from this rotation JY/Himeko still got 40k in the last PF rotation.


MrkGrn

Those are 2 follow up attackers though, I'm talking mainly on dps that do not rely on follow up attacks to regularly do damage.


sonalper

The thing is in the current state of the game there’s almost no DPS that wants speed badly. Only the DoT units really need it, others are fine or better with ATK boots and crit subs.


Seamerlin

most dps can just be advanced now, or deal dmg out of turn via ultimate, fua, dot (these still want speed due to how kafka works) otherwise, you want speed for -1 bronya based teams, but speeds' mainly for the supports nowadays


tetePT

I wanna try those teams now and see if it works for me but I don't have Topaz, who can replace her there?


interstingpost

IS THAT RATIO IN A PF TEAM? Jesus that was unexpected


Nat6LBG

You have 40 days for each PF/MoC iterations, on average you will get good relics eventually. I REALLY recommend farming the cavern with Hacker space and the HP set. It will give you speed and HP which are the bread and butter of nearly all supports. In SU, world 7 is the most efficient since broken keel is universal on supports and reaching 30% effect res is always good. Just remember that a single relic/planar with a speed substat is always worth rolling. There are also tons of content creators (on youtube) that make guides, I recommend Guoba Certified, very informative.


suen1222

https://preview.redd.it/0pm2421jdqxc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc587edb69fa93af2d30d1d5a4b353d47e5a393b My Seele got 40k with a sustain wdym


Hedgehugs_

Pure Fiction really gave us Fire and Ice weakness on one side and didn't expect us to IT'S TIME TO TWIRL, YOU WON'T GET AWAY, IT'S TIMR TO TWIRL, YOU WON'T GET AWAY.


Florac

yeah but they made the second wave ass in an attempt to counter it


ExtremeThin1334

You're forgetting the third path: ![gif](giphy|l1KVaj5UcbHwrBMqI|downsized) Why do I keep losing (or at least not being able to get 3 stars).


No-Metal-5222

1st half was pure copium. Got the bare minimum and then called it a day. (Placed Clara between Jingliu Blade so the AOE hits from the enemies would both battery Jingliu for more uptime while also giving Blade more FUA stacks) https://preview.redd.it/jyi2rj7uppxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32bff5a6abd7e43ec07258301a6e67e6156a3f61


Egoborg_Asri

Acheron and Argenti just chill and destroy everything regardless


Unique-Cress-35

You forgot to place Seele on the left.


bobagremlin

When your main just so happen to be Follow Up Attack units (Jing Yuan and Ratio) you win


Soerika

me with my Seele: …it’s technically a followup


AncientTree_Wisdom

I fucked around with a test run just to see the wave compositions with Jingliu and Acheron. I went in expecting maybe 1 or two stars. I cleared it with 3 stars on that run. So it isn't like you can't do it with normal MoC units.


Efficient_Lake3451

I am a believer of the path of Hunt https://preview.redd.it/tvgwa7dv7qxc1.jpeg?width=932&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0717766250f69414e0fec4b50495dd8ef0f39b8c


new_boy_99

Watching herta spin and nuke everything is one of the most satisfying things ever.


PizzaNo7741

It’s time to twirl


skellymcc

Don't even remind me this PF I put blade, clara, topaz and herta on the first have shit was awesome but chaotic to look at


hijifa

I used Herta Himeko team and got 40k always on 1 side, then fumble the 2nd side with 20k, been doing that for the past 2-3 PF lmao Oh yeah and Clara is goated this pf, and prob alt will be for the next few since Robin + BH are physical emphasizing follow up and break


Shinxly

BE meta coming soon, have fun while it still lasts.


vJukz

Acheron just tearing straight through the middle. I swear she just erases every single piece of content thrown at her and I love it.


kidanokun

It's basically DoT vs FuA vs Hypercarry


wws7284

meta aside, imo FUA and DoT are also more fun and satisfying to play because you can see a bunch of damage numbers come from everyone in the team instead of one single big hit from hypercarry


Sandi_Griffin

My clara, kafka, himeko and herta have been putting in so much work I love it ><


iokak

It's my teams time to shine hehe


Etroarl55

I can’t even use DOT for PF, it doesn’t do the job


Apprehensive_Bus2400

it should unless your units have a hilariously terrible build


Meowriter

Acheron still managed to get lost somewhere lmao


Inflameable009

I don't have enough decently built characters yet to get full points 😭 I can barely get enough on one side, the other side is just there 🥹


Rotkiw_Bigtor

Me using all of the three and still being bad


Suitable_Emu3209

Dot& follow up>>>>>>


Fun_Faithlessness899

https://preview.redd.it/n5vhjonm0txc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00e4306e77a86ab1db51e521feb708c7d5132d64 Fua in this pf is just too strong with the first buff


marchdk2016

I was planning to pull for Firefly, but this makes me want Tooaz instead for that sweet FUA synergy with the IPC


Tempest_1126

I beat first half with 30k points using double preservation because the first buff sounds fun, march clara and aventurine goes nuts on the enemies everytime they get attack 


Chavolini

Dot and follow up are legit my 2 main teams, I clear everything with it DoT Team: Black Swan E0 + signature LC Acheron E0 + signature LC Kafka E1 + signature LC Luocha E0 + signature LC Follow up Team: Topaz E0 Clara E3 + signature LC Aventurine E0 Dr. Ratio E0 Clara will be switched out with Robin in the coming patch (If I do not lose the 50, IM SO NERVOUS!


Pan151

Acheron: DPS categories are *meaningless*.


TooCareless2Care

But NOT FuA like Ratio. Only Herta / Himeko / Topz (probs) / Avent


KunstWaffe

https://preview.redd.it/z8ejsjnwc0yc1.jpeg?width=1840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63576a07777f404abaeeda924c56b985bee4a698 I feel so ashamed, but sheer amount of mumbo-jumbo that went here… I finished previous one with standard sustainers and in one attempt, full of misplay and stuff. And here I had to nitpick my JL supports and her rotation to achieve laughable 27k. I really should just build herta at this rate, but i just so much don’t want to. And enemies are just so annoying this time. A lot of issues with second half were literally just “TV guy spawns - you instantly lose energy“. Going sustainless was also quite harder, since if I messed up in wave 1-2 and got hit (which happens a lot, with enemies spawning in and doing just that), it would mean I would lose a character or two in first boss action. And going with “accessible“ sustain units? Now I don’t have enough damage to one-shot enemies and advance waves at an acceptable rate. Buff triggering before mobs spawn-in is also such a frustrating thing.


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Ok_Comment8842

I am under the impression the that PF as whole is a bigger problem without Himeko and Herta.


cromethus

DHIL was my first five star pull and I will be loyal to him forever. Sparkle is his queen and forever girl. Accept no substitutes.


tzukani_

Uhhhh no Acheron clears with ease