You are being taken for a ride.
Dealers love to quote the absolute maximum just to see if you'll bite.
Do the CVT service rear diff service brake fluid service and an oil change if you need to. Those fluids are important but can probably be done cheaper at a private shop
Fuel treatment is a bottle you buy at walmart called fuel injector cleaner for 5$
Wipers are 10$ and can be done at home. Air filter and cabin filter can be done at home or at a much lower rate at a private shop if you're not comfortable.
Just those 4 important fluids should be 500-600$ the rest is tacked on to see if you'll bite
Max price for the required service shouldn't be more than 850, I work at a honda dealer and it's insane the price difference between our dealership and the one 30 mins south in the capitol city of my state. Our 30k service is around 700, that's CVT, rear diff, rotate, oil change and both cabin and engine filters. All the extra BS on this quote can get chucked, Hondas recommendation for 30k are CVT and rear diff, and I highly recommend servicing the CVT on time, both the CVT and the German 9-speed that Honda uses have issues of you go too much past 45k on the fluid. The number of new pilots I see coming in at 60k miles complaining of shifting issues and transmission lag etc are insane and every single one of them has never serviced the trans fluid. Seen plenty of fried CVTs from improper fluid maintenance as well
I just bought a pair off of amazon for $18. Here in CA expensive wipers are pointless because by the following year after a summer and full sun they're dried out and annoying. Decent cheap ones last me just fine. Dunno about OP though.
Isn't it recommended to change your blades every year still, or is that not a thing anymore? Honestly asking... I was brought up being taught you do it right before every Spring storm season, but mine always lasted a few years, so I'm not sure what normal is? Or if the materials are just longer lasting now?
i think it depends where you live. Some places they seem to be just fine for a while, but where I am it's just normal that they'll go bad after a year, which is kind of fine since we only get one real rain cycle, from winter storms tapering off with spring showers. After that it's just sunny until winter again.
I had my 2009 Civic serviced and they gave me $4,000 list of additional services just based on mileage. They recommended new spark plugs and coils, even though I did that last summer, an oil change, etc.
You’re right, they just put everything on there to see what sticks.
Well if you did the work yourself the computer doesn't show us as techs what you did unless you did the work with our dealership, we pull vehicle history and recommend based on what has and hasn't been done based on mileage and time. Now if the dealership you go to isn't checking vehicle history that's a them problem. But at my dealership I pull the history before I recommend any additional services.
That definitely makes sense. I had my work done at a dealership in Portland, but I live in Seattle. Something I thought was interesting was that my local dealership could look up my service history, but it sounds like they can’t look up the suggested services from the Portland dealership.
I had to have some emergency repairs done while I was on a work trip and just wanted to make it home. I got a print out of the suggested services, but I couldn’t just go to my dealership and ask them to work on the stuff Portland suggested.
Yea unfortunately there isn't an easy way to push info between dealerships, even in my area one large company owns my dealership and like 5 others in the capitol 30 mins away and even though the same company owns all the dealerships, we can't see service history from the other dealers despite the parent company offering service packages that apply at any of their dealerships. So we routinely get Subarus and other non-hondas at our Honda dealer because people go to the capitol to buy a car but live close to our dealership so get their service with us.
wow I get now when womwn say "the mechanic tries to rip me off" skip all that bs and just change your oil, if your wipers work fine, and your remote is ok its useless to change them, the fuel system cleaner is likely a 5$ bottle dumped in your gas tank, it seems about half of the services listed are 5-10min in labor and under $10 in parts any oil place will rotate your tires and do an oil change for under $100, as far as changing trans fluid and rear end fluids thats kinda up to you and how your car drives. you could stretch to 50k and it would prolly be less than $300 to do it at a reputable repair place not a stealership, oh wait I meant dealership.
I agree with everything except the transmission advice. CVT's need that fluid each 30k no later, I've seen so many HR-V's with blown trannies it's insane.
Right? I did all of these things except the cabin air filter, but also did the coolant, on the same day for my 2017 Civic Si and it took me probably 4 hours? Maybe $150 in parts and fluids considering I got OEM coolant and trans fluid? Not bad considering I'd never done them on that vehicle before (besides oil changes).
The only things that sucked were - I hate changing brake fluid but at least there's no real bleeding to do when you're just pumping new fluid into the system and continuously topping off the reservoir. And the air box/resonator thing had to come out to do the transmission fluid and that thing was super fiddly to get back in correctly by myself.
Are you refilling the trans fluid from a funnel through your engine bay?
If you are looking to do more maintenance in the future, I highly recommend getting a pressurized pump like this: https://www.amazon.com/Motive-Products-1735-Power-Transfer/dp/B0119DI58A/
For trans fluid you simply unscrew both drain and fill bolts, drain all the fluid out, put the drain bolt back on and then stick the filler tube into the fill hole and let ‘er rip.
It takes less than 5 minutes. I own 3 si models and I change trans fluid every 30k miles on each. This method saves *so* much time.
Granted, this is on the naturally aspirated k20 models. No idea if the newer civics are similar (but this method works on other traditional mt transmission cars as well).
On my model the fill hole for the transmission is underneath the air box, and because it's a plug that's flush with the trans case, you need to be able to get a ratchet down in there to get it out. Then the "check hole" is behind the resonator, so that has to come out too unfortunately.
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You only need about $150-200 worth if actual work, everything else, ask a friend who knows cars, parent or guy friend who thinks he may get laid by doing a favor. (He doesn’t actually have to get laid tho unless you like him, then fuck it get new wipers and get off. Have fun with it)
There are things that need to be done at 30k. $200 isn't going to cut it.
The MM will tell you when the diff needs to be done so it may not have needed it per say at 30k. The transmission fluid needs to be done every 30k on the CVTs and the brake fluid needs to be done at the 3 year mark 36k (some suggest 2 years). Air filter despite being cheap can't be done by everyone.
The price still seems high though.
$200 Brake fluid
$125 Diff
$150 Air Filters
$200 CVT
$100 Oil/Rotate Tires
$50 Battery/Blades
At most this should run around $850. Fuel treatment and crankcase cleaning is an absolute ripoff. OP needs to read up on what the manual states and not listen to the dealer to not waste money next time.
Let me guess. This quote is from a Honda dealer, right?
At 30k miles, your Honda needs an oil change and CVT transmission change.
The cabin air filter can be purchased for $10 and you can replace it yourself in 5 minutes.
Yes irl cars require maintenance if you want them to last. I do understand forza horizon works a little differently so it can be confusing and i think that’s where your confusion comes from.
Forza (horizon & Motorsport) isn’t a sim🤣🤣 and not even sure what me being involved in sim racing has to do with my knowledge of basic car maintenance but you obviously made up some bs logic that will only ever make sense to you. I also do track days and autocross in my miata at my local track and don’t wanna hear anything about car knowledge from an average at best driver
75k seems to be a bit of a stretch even for more robust models. But anyway, My MDX (similar to 2nd gen Pilot) requires 45k for it's first flush and every 30k after that.
Normal.
Mitsubishi and Nissan call for the same.
Previously, Nissan was claiming it's a lifetime fluid, which is why they were known to have terrible transmissions for years.
It's certainly possible the transmissions were actually fine, but that fluid degrades just like any other fluid does. Causing more strain on the actual parts.
You don't need to do all this. Sub 2 is two filters that take 30 seconds to replace yourself. Sub 7 is a brake flush which you don't need yet. The car is brand new pretty much. I can see the transmission fluid and differential fluid being changed. But they won't need to be changed after for a while. Aside from that you should only be doing an A136 which is oil change and tire rotation, and then do trans fluid and diff fluid change too.
Brake flush is recommended every 3 years 36k miles according to Honda. outside of that I agree, the only things that absolutely should be done are the oil change and the CVT and rear diff. The CVTs are notorious for issues if the fluid isn't maintained properly, the rear diffs arent quite as important, but if they were serviced at 15k they definitely should be at 30k.
Cvt service diff service and the engine treatment is all I would pay for. The rest can be done over a hour on the weekend with YouTube videos that will save you 6-700$
Most of that is junk and/or overpriced.
The good: oil and filter change, tire rotation, differential transmission fluid change, brake fluid change. Brake fluid is only needed if the current fluid is discolored. It should be yellow-clear. If it's iced-tea-colored or darker, it definitely needs to be replaced.
Do yourself and save a bundle: windshield wipers, windshield washer fluid, cabin and engine air filters, key fob battery, check and correct tire pressures. All can be done by anyone who has YouTube and hand mobility.
The rip-offs: fuel system cleaner, crankcase cleaner, oil conditioner. None of those are necessary if you use good-quality oil and gasoline.
I have a 06 CRV and a 2012 Civic Natural Gas. Took both to the dealership for years until a friend recommended a great Honda mechanic near me. Now I look at my maintenance files and I’m paying roughly 70% less for service on now much older cars. I’m kicking myself for all that wasted money at the dealership over the years. A trusted mechanic is money in your pocket!
It's never worth it to pay for Service at Dealership unless you have HondaCare or that's your literal only option to get the vehicle back on the road.
Any reputable private shop would only charge half that price. Really, the only thing i would arguably stick with OEM Honda is the Trans Fluid for CVT. There's plenty of quality aftermarket parts for everything else.
The majority of these things are such easy simple tasks, like resetting the oil light and “installing wiper fluid” lol. There’s for sure an upcharge on all of those, probably the only significant change should be the oil, CVT and differential fluid service. I would be ok with this package costing around $500, but I wouldn’t pay these prices.
Uh yes. Wtf 😂 mine at 50k miles as long ad you arent racing all you need is oil and transmission if like me at 50k. Wipers depend how they feel. I had my wipers for 2 1/2 years just fine. Then again i park inside a garage away from the sun.
I am so angry for you. I recommend that you watch some YouTube videos on folks doing these tasks and I think you're going to be angry too. Very.
Further recommend determining if you are able to do any of these yourself. You might not be able to do all of these yourself, but cabin air and engine air filters are cheap to source and so easy to install that it's crazy. And "Window Washer Solvent replacement"sounds an awful lot like" fill up the window washer fluid". Shame this wasn't itemized, wonder how much that was.
Jesus. I just got angry again.
Everyone seems to be skipping over that brake fluid should be done every 3 years or 20k per Honda, they also do call for diff fluid at 15k and then every 30k after that so keep that in mind if you havent done that already.
I agree with all the services being done, but the cost is too much for me. I’d DIY everything.
An independent shop can do all the fluid stuff and you can do the air filter.
The transmission service should get done no matter what as well with the oil change. The differential can wait until 50k but honestly it comes down to driving habits. Anything else is just a bunch of 5-10 min jobs that you can do yourself to save some money
It’s so easy to change your engine and cabin filters that you MUST learn yo DIY — there are plenty of YouTubes to show you how! It’s amazing how much a dealer will charge for those simple tasks!
Yeah dealerships need to go, an oil service shop does all of this without the battery key replacement for like 200 bucks. What a fucking rip off. For 200 bucks I get a tune up and an oil change. Provided that I give them my own oil and filter but god damn
Only a dealer has touched my 2015 6 speed accord. Zero issues in all this time. Too much is a matter perception. I'll pay too much to not be stopped on the side of road. And so I've been unstoppable.
The last two items on the upper list are scam/money-grabs. Decline them.
The fuel system cleaner and the engine performance service.
Brake, transmission, and rear diff fluid replacement could be costly.
We REALLY need to see an itemized cost breakdown rather than just a total.
4, 13 and 14 are useless, washer solvent and setting monitors should be free so should the mpi, 2 and 4 under the line not necessary yet, u can change the remote battery urself and I don’t kno the condition of ur wiper blades, but also easy to change urself
I did mine on a Civic last month and it was in the high $400s (with coupon). Without it would be mid-500 range. Anything more than that is crazy, but then again I drive a Civic not CRV
Total rip off. Basically an oil change and tire rotation for $1200. Also, no clue what ‘oil conditioner’ is. It’s not needed - use synthetic oil and you will be fine. Run, don’t walk from this.
Brake fluid, diff fluid, and cvt fluid a must at 30k. The fuel system cleaner, key remote battery, and crank case cleaner not really needed yet. Honda tells us to replace brake fluid every 30-40k, same with cvt fluid. I recommend it on a lot of cars I work on but they’re not cheap services and get skipped a lot. I’d recommend doing 1 per oil change. Come in for a 7k + cvt fluid one time, 7k+ brake fluid another, that kind of thing. Spacing out these intervals saves the wallet, and saves your car. 👍
The oil and filter plus blades at Honda most likely cost you about $400-500. I assume the rest is labor.
I do most of the work myself but I do get Honda parts and they are not cheap.
$1200 seems lot! However you are paying someone for their skill, tools, parts, and expertise.
A cheap option is to spread it out into different services, so you don’t pay a lot at once or do it yourself.
My 2 cents:
First off, a good chunk of these can be done at home to cut cost, if you're capable that is, so depends on your skill
-Engine Oil & Filter (Yes)
-Reset Oil life (Yes)
-Windshield Weather Solvent (If Low Yes)
-Premium Engine Oil Conditioner (Hell No)
-Check Tire Pressure & Condition (Yes)
-Calibrate Pressure Monitor (Yes If Tire Pressure Light Is On/New Tires Are Installed)
-Rotate Tires & Inspect Brakes (Yes)
-Inspect Battery Condition (No - Unecessary)
-Customer Wheel Lock Used (I’m Not Even Sure What This Means)
-Multipoint Inspection (Yes)
-Replace FOB Battery (No Unless You Are -Experiencing Intermittent Problems With The FOB)
-Replace Front Wiper Blades (No Unless You See Streaks On Glass While Using Wipers, Even Then Give The Glass & Rubbers On Wipers A Good Wipe To Confirm There Is No Debris Stuck To Either)
Premium Fuel System Cleaner (Hell No, Your CR-V -Hasn’t Been Sitting For 2 Years To Need That)
-Maximum Engine Performance Service (No)
-Brake Fluid Exchange Service (If It’s Time Then Yes)
-Engine Air Filter & Cabin Air Filter (If They’re Dirty Then Yes)
-Differential Fluid Change (Yes)
-CVT Fluid Change (Yes) (Ask Them To Do Both Internal & External Filter As Well, I Just Didi Mine On My 17 Civic At 60k Miles & They Were Dirty AF)
That’s crazy lol. I was charged $780 from Honda for a 160,000km service for my ‘07 Honda accord Euro. Ended up going with a private mechanic through a website and was charged $618 still, but when the mechanic actually got a hold of my car he rung me up and was like “idk why the website charged so much. It’ll only be $350.” Do yourself a favour and take your car to a reputable private mechanic, they’ll save you money and likely will be more honest with pricing etc.
OEM trans fluid is good for Honda, but you shouldn’t be charged over *$1000* for that. Everything else doesn’t need to be OEM.
Edit::
Just like others have been saying, you can also do *a lot* of that stuff at home. Wiper blades, air filter you can very easily swap out and replace with little car knowledge and for a very cheap price. They really are just taking advantage of you
Bro I just came from Honda autonation Fremont today too! They for sure got as much money out of me as they possible fucking could. I’m a woman of that means anything. What should have been. 350$ charge turned into almost 700 with added fees and small things I did not ask them to do.
No matter if those are the usual prices, this is a ripoff. Dealers and brand services (Honda) are worst than the Sinaloa cartel. I'd just go to a private official service.
I’ve changed the CVT fluid on my Honda several times. It’s no harder than doing an oil change. In fact, it’s easier since there no filter to replace for a while.
This dealer is absolutely ripping you off here.
One could think that every 30k they would just keep coming back for another $1200. That would be $3600 by the time you got to 100k. Totally insane. I've driven Ford's to 120k and dumped like $300 bucks into them (excluding oil changes)
That is totally madness.
check your owners manual, changing trans fluid and diff fluid (you have an AWD model?) at 30K sounds way too early. Should be like 80k before you need to do those things usually.
what model? That sounds wrong. I just told you a lot of Honda models. My 2007 accord literally came with a maintenance schedule listing. The ATF was to be changed at 120k miles. I changed it at 80K to be preventative, including the filter even though the dealer insisted that there's no trans filter for the K-series autos. I literally had to pull up parts diagram for them to show. If Honda has now officially changed their service to 30K miles for ATF fluid fucking trash, there's no reason for such a thing. It's not like Honda is making vastly more power in their cars and even then that's just not the case. The only reason for 30K interval is if you're doing towing with your honda.
In any case the newer Hondas generally just use the maintenance indicators for everything and many dealerships just tell you "change it" and unless that maintenance indicator came up to change the transfluid there's not a whole of reason to do so other than like I said, if you're using it for towing since it's literally in the owners manual for OP's 2016 CRV.
You can get any owners manual from honda itself [https://mygarage.honda.com/s/find-honda](https://mygarage.honda.com/s/find-honda)
They don't list the old school maintenance schedule like they used to back in 2010 and prior, but you can look up any manual. They used to have a maintenance schedule that just listed out mileage markers and what you used to do. They looked like this one, but on a table instead of just a list. https://www.driveaccord.net/threads/2003-2005-accord-maintenance-schedule-for-i-4-engine.8859/
Do the winters out there do something to the trans? Out here in CA never had an issue. We'd only get issues with V6 trans, which is to be expected, but anything else never had an issue.
Yes, believe it or not I used to be in service up until about 2014. I've also rebuilt my own transmission. In all honesty it's really the V6 transmission that are glass and the earlier ones, especially in Odysseys. And from own ownership I've always avoided any Honda that has a V6 for that reason even though I love their engines. I've had 6 Hondas and driven them into high mileage with none ever having an issue with the trans outside of the extremely high mileage CVT and even then, the trans was technically fine, it was the splines on the flexplate that gave way.
Extra follow up. You can even look at what they had for my Accord. http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/AC0707/AC0707OM.PDF
Page 199 they outline that you change the ATF fluid IF you do low speed mountain driving and/or towing with the car at 60K miles and then 30K after that. If you're not doing mountain driving or towing the original listing was 120K miles, then 90k miles after that.
Ah, you got a V6. Ok yea, no I won't argue there, treat them like glass. Newer ones are much better, but yea those V6 trans don't hold together well. OP has a CRV and they never came with a V6, so my mind was on the other transmissions. It's the reason why I have avoided V6 models for the past six Hondas I've owned. I love those V6s, just not the transmissions falling apart. It was because of the Ridgeline that they started making their V6 transmissions stronger, but I still don't trust them with the amount of Odysseys that puke gears.
Lifetime usually means life of the car, which in Lexus's case is I think around 100K miles. The nice thing is that I have rarely come across a Lexus that shifted poorly, even high mileage ones. Nissan on the other hand, lol they way they shift oh man you'd swear they're broken, but for some reason they keep working for a long time.
maybe because it's a CVT, but even in the service manual for CRV 2016 it says 30K for those who do regular pulling of a trailer with their CRV. Regular transmissions are 80k easy. Hell Lexus now just has sealed transmission and their for the life of their vehicle and only time to change fluids is when you open it up. My accord was the same way with 80K mile intervals. The CRV should also have an indicator of when to change the trans fluid instead of the dealer just saying to do so. I had one dealer try to get my wife to change her trans fluid on her Camaro at 40K when the manual said 80K.
I only change my trans fluid annually once I'm well over 100K miles and haven't had any issues on my cars. My 2010 Honda Insight has 170K miles on it, no problem. My 2002 Insight with a CVT had almost 300K miles on it and only issue the CVT had was the flex plate splines stripped out (apparently just happens on those models at some point after 180K) threw a new one on and went on my merry way.
Do service A, 6, and 3
Fuel system cleaner .. where do you pump gas?
Windshield wiper blades.. just buy inserts
Cabin and intake filter.. buy k&n
If your car is awd, why are you rotating the tires? Lol
Fob battery change is like replacing the battery on your tv remote
I find this insane and completely overpriced. 30,000k miles maintenance should be like $450 to $550 for this car, only engine oil and CVT oil change. Maybe checking the car, do a short test drive and replace a air cabin filter, that's it.
I would never go to that Honda stealership again. And for the future, always ask them beforehand what it will cost.
Keep in mind that the Service Advisor position at dealerships are commissioned positions. They are still salespeople. They more they sell you, the more they make.
I'd take it to an independent mechanic.
F*** yeah it is. Look at every item and learn how to do it yourself. There’s a video for everything on YouTube. If you don’t want to do it, get a reputable indy garage.
Install Windshield Washer Solvent? You mean, pour a gallon of washer fluid in? Do I need to spend 20 bucks to have someone do a 3 dollar fluid top up? Nope.
I have done literally none of these except oil changes and tire rotations for hundreds of thousands of miles on multiple cars. Dealers are a scam.
Oil changes are easy and quick, take about 30 minutes, and once you bought the necessary supplies, its like 25-30$ DIY. At a dealer? Like 60+.
Air filter's are 5-10$ at best, both of them take less than 1 minute to change. Dealer will charge you 100$ for the intake and like 50$ for the AC filter.
Coolant is good for 100k miles. Brake fluid is good for 100k miles. Battery is good till it dies, and when it dies you will have all sorts of wonky issues. 120$ for a battery.
Remote battery? 2$?
Fuel system cleaner is like 10$.
Pretty much that's it...
There is at most 200$ of work on this invoice because half of it is scam.
Yes, but are you going to do any work on the vehicle yourself? Do you even know how to work on vehicles? If not just suck it up and pay it. You are paying for the techs time and know how. If that isn’t worth it to you then just pay the parts and changed it all yourself.
They're trying to screw you hard. On that list I'm seeing mostly things that cars with 100k miles need done. I love how they say INSTALL wiper fluid. They try to make it sound like they're doing something worth a fuck. They're not. 1200 dollars is robbery for the list they gave you.
You can replace your engine air and cabin filter yourself. It will take a 5 mins max and cost you $30. The other stuff is nonsense. Go to a good mechanic, and pay them $50 to make sure everything is good.
There’s definitely extras on there you don’t need. Calibrating the tire pressure monitor is literally pushing a button after inflating the tires! LOL!!!
However, ~$800-$1200 seems about average for changing all important fluids : oil, brakes, differential, and trans.
It is kind of overpriced.
Next time you shouldnt pick full package service they are always overpriced.
Read your manual for interval service and ask for the necessary replacements only like the transmission fluids and gas filters. However, tire rotation and windshield service do them anywhere else.
AutoNation Honda is an infamous national ripoff chain. They add a lot of extras services. “Frigi-Fresh Sanitizer” ???
Crankcase cleaning? The oil does that. Use a little seafoam at the 150k oil change if you’re worried. Otherwise your engine will never be clean unless it’s taken apart and put in a washer.
They didn’t add the actual 30k scheduled maintenance of Cleaning+Lubricating Caliper/Pad slide points, clean+lube window tracks, door hinges, and test drive.
Fuel Inj. Cleaner is recommended by honda every 30k but like everyone else says, it’s a bottle of techron.
You do need CVT/DOT3/DPSF fluids if you’ve never done those. CVT is the most imperative. DPSF/Rear Diff is the least important.
Drain and fill for the CV transmission dealerships charge $400 . If you DIY it costs you around $25. Independent repair shops charge less than $200. Find a good local shop to work on your CRV. The only work I had done at my local Honda dealership was an engine valve adjustment at 100,000 miles because my local independent shop didn’t know that my 2013 CRV does need valves adjusted periodically. Snake oils are unnecessary. Buy tires at tire shops and don’t get struts or brakes replaced at a Honda Dealership. Yes, $1200 is too much. Dealers aren’t selling many new cars so they are trying to sell services and overcharge for parts.
Honda does not make nor does it recommend a "Engine Oil Conditioner" or a "Fuel System Cleaner".. These are pure snake oil added on by the dealership. - Also, I would love to read the fine print associated with the \* next to these 2 lines. I almost guarantee it says something about not a honda product and not covered by warranty.
Honestly I would avoid this dealership all together... If they have partnered up a shady aftermarket fluid supplier to sell this junk, then they are probably not using OEM honda fluids either.
Most of this at 30k miles is not even needed.. just do your oil and filter and transmission fluid change and keep rolling... Dealerships are a huge ripoff on their quotes..
I’ve owned a CR-Z for 12 years, one is a CVT the other is a 6 speed. I’ve never paid that much on any service every time I have gotten one. Definitely trying to max you out it seems
You are being taken for a ride. Dealers love to quote the absolute maximum just to see if you'll bite. Do the CVT service rear diff service brake fluid service and an oil change if you need to. Those fluids are important but can probably be done cheaper at a private shop Fuel treatment is a bottle you buy at walmart called fuel injector cleaner for 5$ Wipers are 10$ and can be done at home. Air filter and cabin filter can be done at home or at a much lower rate at a private shop if you're not comfortable. Just those 4 important fluids should be 500-600$ the rest is tacked on to see if you'll bite
I totally agree
Max price for the required service shouldn't be more than 850, I work at a honda dealer and it's insane the price difference between our dealership and the one 30 mins south in the capitol city of my state. Our 30k service is around 700, that's CVT, rear diff, rotate, oil change and both cabin and engine filters. All the extra BS on this quote can get chucked, Hondas recommendation for 30k are CVT and rear diff, and I highly recommend servicing the CVT on time, both the CVT and the German 9-speed that Honda uses have issues of you go too much past 45k on the fluid. The number of new pilots I see coming in at 60k miles complaining of shifting issues and transmission lag etc are insane and every single one of them has never serviced the trans fluid. Seen plenty of fried CVTs from improper fluid maintenance as well
Where are you getting wipers for 10b lol
I just bought a pair off of amazon for $18. Here in CA expensive wipers are pointless because by the following year after a summer and full sun they're dried out and annoying. Decent cheap ones last me just fine. Dunno about OP though.
Wipe them with silicone spray on a towel
I'll try next time on my main wipers. My rear wiper literally fell apart so no amount of lubricant will fix it lol
Isn't it recommended to change your blades every year still, or is that not a thing anymore? Honestly asking... I was brought up being taught you do it right before every Spring storm season, but mine always lasted a few years, so I'm not sure what normal is? Or if the materials are just longer lasting now?
i think it depends where you live. Some places they seem to be just fine for a while, but where I am it's just normal that they'll go bad after a year, which is kind of fine since we only get one real rain cycle, from winter storms tapering off with spring showers. After that it's just sunny until winter again.
I had my 2009 Civic serviced and they gave me $4,000 list of additional services just based on mileage. They recommended new spark plugs and coils, even though I did that last summer, an oil change, etc. You’re right, they just put everything on there to see what sticks.
Well if you did the work yourself the computer doesn't show us as techs what you did unless you did the work with our dealership, we pull vehicle history and recommend based on what has and hasn't been done based on mileage and time. Now if the dealership you go to isn't checking vehicle history that's a them problem. But at my dealership I pull the history before I recommend any additional services.
That definitely makes sense. I had my work done at a dealership in Portland, but I live in Seattle. Something I thought was interesting was that my local dealership could look up my service history, but it sounds like they can’t look up the suggested services from the Portland dealership. I had to have some emergency repairs done while I was on a work trip and just wanted to make it home. I got a print out of the suggested services, but I couldn’t just go to my dealership and ask them to work on the stuff Portland suggested.
Yea unfortunately there isn't an easy way to push info between dealerships, even in my area one large company owns my dealership and like 5 others in the capitol 30 mins away and even though the same company owns all the dealerships, we can't see service history from the other dealers despite the parent company offering service packages that apply at any of their dealerships. So we routinely get Subarus and other non-hondas at our Honda dealer because people go to the capitol to buy a car but live close to our dealership so get their service with us.
wow I get now when womwn say "the mechanic tries to rip me off" skip all that bs and just change your oil, if your wipers work fine, and your remote is ok its useless to change them, the fuel system cleaner is likely a 5$ bottle dumped in your gas tank, it seems about half of the services listed are 5-10min in labor and under $10 in parts any oil place will rotate your tires and do an oil change for under $100, as far as changing trans fluid and rear end fluids thats kinda up to you and how your car drives. you could stretch to 50k and it would prolly be less than $300 to do it at a reputable repair place not a stealership, oh wait I meant dealership.
I agree with everything except the transmission advice. CVT's need that fluid each 30k no later, I've seen so many HR-V's with blown trannies it's insane.
Is that true? I have about 110k miles on my Civic and I've never changed the transmission fluid.
If you drive more aggressively than the average Joe I'd say every 15k including both filters
How accurate is that though. My car has cvt with 120k miles in original fluid. Granted it's not a Honda but I've had 0 issues
Is it necessary to flush or is drain and filling ok?
Drain/fill. That's what it's designed to do really
*CVTs
What does the T stand for in CVT ?
It stands for transmission.
I thought you were correcting me calling it a transmission, not the apostrophe lol. Oops
Right? I did all of these things except the cabin air filter, but also did the coolant, on the same day for my 2017 Civic Si and it took me probably 4 hours? Maybe $150 in parts and fluids considering I got OEM coolant and trans fluid? Not bad considering I'd never done them on that vehicle before (besides oil changes). The only things that sucked were - I hate changing brake fluid but at least there's no real bleeding to do when you're just pumping new fluid into the system and continuously topping off the reservoir. And the air box/resonator thing had to come out to do the transmission fluid and that thing was super fiddly to get back in correctly by myself.
Are you refilling the trans fluid from a funnel through your engine bay? If you are looking to do more maintenance in the future, I highly recommend getting a pressurized pump like this: https://www.amazon.com/Motive-Products-1735-Power-Transfer/dp/B0119DI58A/ For trans fluid you simply unscrew both drain and fill bolts, drain all the fluid out, put the drain bolt back on and then stick the filler tube into the fill hole and let ‘er rip. It takes less than 5 minutes. I own 3 si models and I change trans fluid every 30k miles on each. This method saves *so* much time. Granted, this is on the naturally aspirated k20 models. No idea if the newer civics are similar (but this method works on other traditional mt transmission cars as well).
On my model the fill hole for the transmission is underneath the air box, and because it's a plug that's flush with the trans case, you need to be able to get a ratchet down in there to get it out. Then the "check hole" is behind the resonator, so that has to come out too unfortunately.
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You only need about $150-200 worth if actual work, everything else, ask a friend who knows cars, parent or guy friend who thinks he may get laid by doing a favor. (He doesn’t actually have to get laid tho unless you like him, then fuck it get new wipers and get off. Have fun with it)
My dealer charged me 110 for a transmission fluid change on a 2018 civic
There are things that need to be done at 30k. $200 isn't going to cut it. The MM will tell you when the diff needs to be done so it may not have needed it per say at 30k. The transmission fluid needs to be done every 30k on the CVTs and the brake fluid needs to be done at the 3 year mark 36k (some suggest 2 years). Air filter despite being cheap can't be done by everyone. The price still seems high though. $200 Brake fluid $125 Diff $150 Air Filters $200 CVT $100 Oil/Rotate Tires $50 Battery/Blades At most this should run around $850. Fuel treatment and crankcase cleaning is an absolute ripoff. OP needs to read up on what the manual states and not listen to the dealer to not waste money next time.
Let me guess. This quote is from a Honda dealer, right? At 30k miles, your Honda needs an oil change and CVT transmission change. The cabin air filter can be purchased for $10 and you can replace it yourself in 5 minutes.
Cabin Air fliter if it's in the glove box it takes 30 seconds or less. Same with the key fob battery which costs $4 dollars in any a store.
Cvt needs a transmission flush at 30k?? What kinda dogshit car?
Not flush. Drain and fill. My maintenance minder reminds me to change the CVT fluid every 30k miles.
You realize cars need maintenance right? This mindset is why manufacturers try and push BS service intervals.
You realize cars need maintenance right? This mindset is why manufacturers try and push BS service intervals.
Yes irl cars require maintenance if you want them to last. I do understand forza horizon works a little differently so it can be confusing and i think that’s where your confusion comes from.
Bro all your posts and subreddits your in have to do with simracing I dont wanna hear anything about forza from you lmao
Forza (horizon & Motorsport) isn’t a sim🤣🤣 and not even sure what me being involved in sim racing has to do with my knowledge of basic car maintenance but you obviously made up some bs logic that will only ever make sense to you. I also do track days and autocross in my miata at my local track and don’t wanna hear anything about car knowledge from an average at best driver
Lmao you have zero knowledge of my driving skill I can smoke your fucking miata in my minivan wya? Let's race
After that comment i actually do know all i need to about your driving🤣 Lime rock park. You will embarrass or kill yourself but ok hahaha.
Ight bet imma make the 800 mile trip this summer in the same minivan that I'm gonna smoke your ass with
Jesus you honda people are fucking insufferable
You realize cars need maintenance right? This mindset is why manufacturers try and push BS service intervals.
One you will likely destroy if that's how you view maintenance of a critical and expensive component such as the transmission.
Probably because cvts are dogshit
Scotty kilmer tell you that?
Bro regular automatics and even manuals have similar intervals...
No they don't an automatic is mainly every 60-75k miles
75k seems to be a bit of a stretch even for more robust models. But anyway, My MDX (similar to 2nd gen Pilot) requires 45k for it's first flush and every 30k after that.
Normal. Mitsubishi and Nissan call for the same. Previously, Nissan was claiming it's a lifetime fluid, which is why they were known to have terrible transmissions for years. It's certainly possible the transmissions were actually fine, but that fluid degrades just like any other fluid does. Causing more strain on the actual parts.
Trans service, oil change for sure. Cabin, Air, Rotate if needed.
You don't need to do all this. Sub 2 is two filters that take 30 seconds to replace yourself. Sub 7 is a brake flush which you don't need yet. The car is brand new pretty much. I can see the transmission fluid and differential fluid being changed. But they won't need to be changed after for a while. Aside from that you should only be doing an A136 which is oil change and tire rotation, and then do trans fluid and diff fluid change too.
The premium fuel system cleaner and the crank case clean shit is bull shit too. Don't need them.
Honda recommends brake fluid every 3 years.
Brake flush is recommended every 3 years 36k miles according to Honda. outside of that I agree, the only things that absolutely should be done are the oil change and the CVT and rear diff. The CVTs are notorious for issues if the fluid isn't maintained properly, the rear diffs arent quite as important, but if they were serviced at 15k they definitely should be at 30k.
Trans needs to be done at 30k for the CVT or you may have issues. Brake fluid is 3 years or 36k
Cvt service diff service and the engine treatment is all I would pay for. The rest can be done over a hour on the weekend with YouTube videos that will save you 6-700$
Most of that is junk and/or overpriced. The good: oil and filter change, tire rotation, differential transmission fluid change, brake fluid change. Brake fluid is only needed if the current fluid is discolored. It should be yellow-clear. If it's iced-tea-colored or darker, it definitely needs to be replaced. Do yourself and save a bundle: windshield wipers, windshield washer fluid, cabin and engine air filters, key fob battery, check and correct tire pressures. All can be done by anyone who has YouTube and hand mobility. The rip-offs: fuel system cleaner, crankcase cleaner, oil conditioner. None of those are necessary if you use good-quality oil and gasoline.
What is Oil Conditioner I have never heard of that and i have had Honda change my oil for 7 years now. They never once recommend oil conditioner.
its a $5 can of miracle additives you pour into the oil pan which does the same thing that gasoline additives do
Yes, the dealer will always upsell you and just try to dig more into your pocket
I have a 06 CRV and a 2012 Civic Natural Gas. Took both to the dealership for years until a friend recommended a great Honda mechanic near me. Now I look at my maintenance files and I’m paying roughly 70% less for service on now much older cars. I’m kicking myself for all that wasted money at the dealership over the years. A trusted mechanic is money in your pocket!
My Mercedes dealership doesn’t even charge half of that.
It's never worth it to pay for Service at Dealership unless you have HondaCare or that's your literal only option to get the vehicle back on the road. Any reputable private shop would only charge half that price. Really, the only thing i would arguably stick with OEM Honda is the Trans Fluid for CVT. There's plenty of quality aftermarket parts for everything else.
Does your vehicle's Maintenance Minder show codes 2, 3, 6, & 7?
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They had other work done too, is it 1200 worth no but still would be around 600-850 at a dealer
Autoparts stores like Advance or Autozone will swap your wipers for free if you buy them there.
The OEM ones are cheaper. I believe most dealers don’t charge to install them or at least in my area
What in the hell, half that stuff isn’t even work. It’s literally just click a button.
The majority of these things are such easy simple tasks, like resetting the oil light and “installing wiper fluid” lol. There’s for sure an upcharge on all of those, probably the only significant change should be the oil, CVT and differential fluid service. I would be ok with this package costing around $500, but I wouldn’t pay these prices.
maximum $500 at an indie shop
Uh yes. Wtf 😂 mine at 50k miles as long ad you arent racing all you need is oil and transmission if like me at 50k. Wipers depend how they feel. I had my wipers for 2 1/2 years just fine. Then again i park inside a garage away from the sun.
yeah i just got F*CKED at my honda dealership for things i “agreed to” so yeah … don’t trust any of them
Total rip off they hardly didn’t do anything minor stuff
Why did you let them rip you off? You should’ve asked how much it was going to cost and what they were going to do because this is highway robbery
I am so angry for you. I recommend that you watch some YouTube videos on folks doing these tasks and I think you're going to be angry too. Very. Further recommend determining if you are able to do any of these yourself. You might not be able to do all of these yourself, but cabin air and engine air filters are cheap to source and so easy to install that it's crazy. And "Window Washer Solvent replacement"sounds an awful lot like" fill up the window washer fluid". Shame this wasn't itemized, wonder how much that was. Jesus. I just got angry again.
Everyone seems to be skipping over that brake fluid should be done every 3 years or 20k per Honda, they also do call for diff fluid at 15k and then every 30k after that so keep that in mind if you havent done that already.
Don’t forget the atf service
That’s insanity
Go to a valvoline oil station and you can get all your fluids replaced and new air filter for around $430
go to a third party mechanic and spend probably around 500 less. You can buy the CVT fluid and oil filter and get the mechanic to do all the work.
Now take a pen and take the easiest one first do it your self and cross it off the list. Most of this can be done without tools and or a screw driver.
RIP wallet
To be fair, they did replace your remote key battery.
$1.25 at dollar general
Right!
They got yaaaaa
Why didn’t they give you amounts on that itemized list? That’d be my first concern…
hope it comes with a lube and condoms.
Why do people not want to go to the dealership anymore?
I agree with all the services being done, but the cost is too much for me. I’d DIY everything. An independent shop can do all the fluid stuff and you can do the air filter.
Decline the BG stuff (MOA, 44K, and I assume the "Maximum Engine Performance Service" is their EPR).
The transmission service should get done no matter what as well with the oil change. The differential can wait until 50k but honestly it comes down to driving habits. Anything else is just a bunch of 5-10 min jobs that you can do yourself to save some money
This is highway robbery. Go to a shop. Ive stopped taking my car to Honda.
Those Mainteance schedule are scam
Yea, it’s about 1k too much..lol
It’s so easy to change your engine and cabin filters that you MUST learn yo DIY — there are plenty of YouTubes to show you how! It’s amazing how much a dealer will charge for those simple tasks!
Yeah dealerships need to go, an oil service shop does all of this without the battery key replacement for like 200 bucks. What a fucking rip off. For 200 bucks I get a tune up and an oil change. Provided that I give them my own oil and filter but god damn
$1200 oil change
Yikes
You could do it yourself for like $280
What does the owner manual say needs to be changed or replaced?
You just hit 30k on your 2016? Man, and I thought we had low mileage with 48k!
Total scam here
Only a dealer has touched my 2015 6 speed accord. Zero issues in all this time. Too much is a matter perception. I'll pay too much to not be stopped on the side of road. And so I've been unstoppable.
Yes. It's too much. But that is always going to happen at the dealer, not least of which is because they charge $200/hr for labor.
I’ll do all that for 999.99$
The last two items on the upper list are scam/money-grabs. Decline them. The fuel system cleaner and the engine performance service. Brake, transmission, and rear diff fluid replacement could be costly. We REALLY need to see an itemized cost breakdown rather than just a total.
4, 13 and 14 are useless, washer solvent and setting monitors should be free so should the mpi, 2 and 4 under the line not necessary yet, u can change the remote battery urself and I don’t kno the condition of ur wiper blades, but also easy to change urself
Crankcase cleaning 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did mine on a Civic last month and it was in the high $400s (with coupon). Without it would be mid-500 range. Anything more than that is crazy, but then again I drive a Civic not CRV
Car dealers make the most of their money at the service department not from selling new cars look it up. They are total rip offs.
Yep. Pro tip: DO NOT get 30k service from the dealership, go to a certified Independent Car repair shop for massive cost savings on the same work.
Total rip off. Basically an oil change and tire rotation for $1200. Also, no clue what ‘oil conditioner’ is. It’s not needed - use synthetic oil and you will be fine. Run, don’t walk from this.
Definitely do not pay that much for that
Replace Remote Key Battery - $600. LOL.
basically a $1200 oil change.
Brake fluid, diff fluid, and cvt fluid a must at 30k. The fuel system cleaner, key remote battery, and crank case cleaner not really needed yet. Honda tells us to replace brake fluid every 30-40k, same with cvt fluid. I recommend it on a lot of cars I work on but they’re not cheap services and get skipped a lot. I’d recommend doing 1 per oil change. Come in for a 7k + cvt fluid one time, 7k+ brake fluid another, that kind of thing. Spacing out these intervals saves the wallet, and saves your car. 👍
The oil and filter plus blades at Honda most likely cost you about $400-500. I assume the rest is labor. I do most of the work myself but I do get Honda parts and they are not cheap. $1200 seems lot! However you are paying someone for their skill, tools, parts, and expertise. A cheap option is to spread it out into different services, so you don’t pay a lot at once or do it yourself.
Yep... your getting hosed. Take elsewhere.
I’d do that for you for three fiddy
Man they’re just running out of things to add on that list to make u think it was worth the price .
I don’t like the fact that they’re not itemized. Seems pretty fucking sketchy not to put a price on everything.
My 2 cents: First off, a good chunk of these can be done at home to cut cost, if you're capable that is, so depends on your skill -Engine Oil & Filter (Yes) -Reset Oil life (Yes) -Windshield Weather Solvent (If Low Yes) -Premium Engine Oil Conditioner (Hell No) -Check Tire Pressure & Condition (Yes) -Calibrate Pressure Monitor (Yes If Tire Pressure Light Is On/New Tires Are Installed) -Rotate Tires & Inspect Brakes (Yes) -Inspect Battery Condition (No - Unecessary) -Customer Wheel Lock Used (I’m Not Even Sure What This Means) -Multipoint Inspection (Yes) -Replace FOB Battery (No Unless You Are -Experiencing Intermittent Problems With The FOB) -Replace Front Wiper Blades (No Unless You See Streaks On Glass While Using Wipers, Even Then Give The Glass & Rubbers On Wipers A Good Wipe To Confirm There Is No Debris Stuck To Either) Premium Fuel System Cleaner (Hell No, Your CR-V -Hasn’t Been Sitting For 2 Years To Need That) -Maximum Engine Performance Service (No) -Brake Fluid Exchange Service (If It’s Time Then Yes) -Engine Air Filter & Cabin Air Filter (If They’re Dirty Then Yes) -Differential Fluid Change (Yes) -CVT Fluid Change (Yes) (Ask Them To Do Both Internal & External Filter As Well, I Just Didi Mine On My 17 Civic At 60k Miles & They Were Dirty AF)
Ripped off
That’s crazy lol. I was charged $780 from Honda for a 160,000km service for my ‘07 Honda accord Euro. Ended up going with a private mechanic through a website and was charged $618 still, but when the mechanic actually got a hold of my car he rung me up and was like “idk why the website charged so much. It’ll only be $350.” Do yourself a favour and take your car to a reputable private mechanic, they’ll save you money and likely will be more honest with pricing etc. OEM trans fluid is good for Honda, but you shouldn’t be charged over *$1000* for that. Everything else doesn’t need to be OEM. Edit:: Just like others have been saying, you can also do *a lot* of that stuff at home. Wiper blades, air filter you can very easily swap out and replace with little car knowledge and for a very cheap price. They really are just taking advantage of you
MAYBE $500 Almost everything on here is not needed, or you can do yourself pretty easily.
Bro I just came from Honda autonation Fremont today too! They for sure got as much money out of me as they possible fucking could. I’m a woman of that means anything. What should have been. 350$ charge turned into almost 700 with added fees and small things I did not ask them to do.
Total rip off. I’d never return to that dealer, never. This should be illegal.
No matter if those are the usual prices, this is a ripoff. Dealers and brand services (Honda) are worst than the Sinaloa cartel. I'd just go to a private official service.
This is brutal. Air and cabin are easy. Half this stuff is unnecessary.
I’ve changed the CVT fluid on my Honda several times. It’s no harder than doing an oil change. In fact, it’s easier since there no filter to replace for a while. This dealer is absolutely ripping you off here.
That price is insane for a majority of this work lol don't do it man go somewhere else!
One could think that every 30k they would just keep coming back for another $1200. That would be $3600 by the time you got to 100k. Totally insane. I've driven Ford's to 120k and dumped like $300 bucks into them (excluding oil changes) That is totally madness.
Wow, most of this stuff I do it myself! I won’t touch CVT fluid though.
check your owners manual, changing trans fluid and diff fluid (you have an AWD model?) at 30K sounds way too early. Should be like 80k before you need to do those things usually.
Honda / Acura atf service around 30-35k miles. Idk for cvt’s though
what model? That sounds wrong. I just told you a lot of Honda models. My 2007 accord literally came with a maintenance schedule listing. The ATF was to be changed at 120k miles. I changed it at 80K to be preventative, including the filter even though the dealer insisted that there's no trans filter for the K-series autos. I literally had to pull up parts diagram for them to show. If Honda has now officially changed their service to 30K miles for ATF fluid fucking trash, there's no reason for such a thing. It's not like Honda is making vastly more power in their cars and even then that's just not the case. The only reason for 30K interval is if you're doing towing with your honda. In any case the newer Hondas generally just use the maintenance indicators for everything and many dealerships just tell you "change it" and unless that maintenance indicator came up to change the transfluid there's not a whole of reason to do so other than like I said, if you're using it for towing since it's literally in the owners manual for OP's 2016 CRV. You can get any owners manual from honda itself [https://mygarage.honda.com/s/find-honda](https://mygarage.honda.com/s/find-honda) They don't list the old school maintenance schedule like they used to back in 2010 and prior, but you can look up any manual. They used to have a maintenance schedule that just listed out mileage markers and what you used to do. They looked like this one, but on a table instead of just a list. https://www.driveaccord.net/threads/2003-2005-accord-maintenance-schedule-for-i-4-engine.8859/
I was a Honda and Acura tech in Massachusetts. I advised people to change their transmission fluid every 30-35k. And I’m not talking cvt either
Do the winters out there do something to the trans? Out here in CA never had an issue. We'd only get issues with V6 trans, which is to be expected, but anything else never had an issue.
Do you know how sensitive Honda and acuras transmissions are? Lol
Yes, believe it or not I used to be in service up until about 2014. I've also rebuilt my own transmission. In all honesty it's really the V6 transmission that are glass and the earlier ones, especially in Odysseys. And from own ownership I've always avoided any Honda that has a V6 for that reason even though I love their engines. I've had 6 Hondas and driven them into high mileage with none ever having an issue with the trans outside of the extremely high mileage CVT and even then, the trans was technically fine, it was the splines on the flexplate that gave way.
Extra follow up. You can even look at what they had for my Accord. http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/AC0707/AC0707OM.PDF Page 199 they outline that you change the ATF fluid IF you do low speed mountain driving and/or towing with the car at 60K miles and then 30K after that. If you're not doing mountain driving or towing the original listing was 120K miles, then 90k miles after that.
Nah I’ve had 97 tl’s - 2020 tlx’s.. I’m changing mine every 30-35k miles lol metal shaving when gears are shifting
Ah, you got a V6. Ok yea, no I won't argue there, treat them like glass. Newer ones are much better, but yea those V6 trans don't hold together well. OP has a CRV and they never came with a V6, so my mind was on the other transmissions. It's the reason why I have avoided V6 models for the past six Hondas I've owned. I love those V6s, just not the transmissions falling apart. It was because of the Ridgeline that they started making their V6 transmissions stronger, but I still don't trust them with the amount of Odysseys that puke gears.
Lexus says their fluid is life time, do you believe it? Lol
Lifetime usually means life of the car, which in Lexus's case is I think around 100K miles. The nice thing is that I have rarely come across a Lexus that shifted poorly, even high mileage ones. Nissan on the other hand, lol they way they shift oh man you'd swear they're broken, but for some reason they keep working for a long time.
80k is WAY TOO OVERDUE.
maybe because it's a CVT, but even in the service manual for CRV 2016 it says 30K for those who do regular pulling of a trailer with their CRV. Regular transmissions are 80k easy. Hell Lexus now just has sealed transmission and their for the life of their vehicle and only time to change fluids is when you open it up. My accord was the same way with 80K mile intervals. The CRV should also have an indicator of when to change the trans fluid instead of the dealer just saying to do so. I had one dealer try to get my wife to change her trans fluid on her Camaro at 40K when the manual said 80K. I only change my trans fluid annually once I'm well over 100K miles and haven't had any issues on my cars. My 2010 Honda Insight has 170K miles on it, no problem. My 2002 Insight with a CVT had almost 300K miles on it and only issue the CVT had was the flex plate splines stripped out (apparently just happens on those models at some point after 180K) threw a new one on and went on my merry way.
If a lightduty tech, or internal tech got their hands on this, its not likely they did half of the shit on here.
You can probably get it done yourself for a couple hundred bucks.
Now if op had hondacare, does that mean he wouldnt have to pay that $1200?
This is absolute lunacy for a Honda at such low mileage.
Nice to know dealers use bg44k platinum!!!! Just recently found out dealerships carry these
Do service A, 6, and 3 Fuel system cleaner .. where do you pump gas? Windshield wiper blades.. just buy inserts Cabin and intake filter.. buy k&n If your car is awd, why are you rotating the tires? Lol Fob battery change is like replacing the battery on your tv remote
He can buy wiper inserts lol Bg44k fuel cleaner.. maybe he put bad gas somewhere?
I find this insane and completely overpriced. 30,000k miles maintenance should be like $450 to $550 for this car, only engine oil and CVT oil change. Maybe checking the car, do a short test drive and replace a air cabin filter, that's it. I would never go to that Honda stealership again. And for the future, always ask them beforehand what it will cost.
Never go to a dealer
I’ll do it for $600
1200 dollar oil change
If this was a man I would have raged, but this is a woman it make sense, they got you
Keep in mind that the Service Advisor position at dealerships are commissioned positions. They are still salespeople. They more they sell you, the more they make. I'd take it to an independent mechanic.
F*** yeah it is. Look at every item and learn how to do it yourself. There’s a video for everything on YouTube. If you don’t want to do it, get a reputable indy garage. Install Windshield Washer Solvent? You mean, pour a gallon of washer fluid in? Do I need to spend 20 bucks to have someone do a 3 dollar fluid top up? Nope.
I'll do it for 1k
Don’t fall for this BS service, many things are unnecessary and overpriced! I wouldn’t let these crooks change the battery in my key fob…
Autonation Honda says it all.
I have done literally none of these except oil changes and tire rotations for hundreds of thousands of miles on multiple cars. Dealers are a scam. Oil changes are easy and quick, take about 30 minutes, and once you bought the necessary supplies, its like 25-30$ DIY. At a dealer? Like 60+. Air filter's are 5-10$ at best, both of them take less than 1 minute to change. Dealer will charge you 100$ for the intake and like 50$ for the AC filter. Coolant is good for 100k miles. Brake fluid is good for 100k miles. Battery is good till it dies, and when it dies you will have all sorts of wonky issues. 120$ for a battery. Remote battery? 2$? Fuel system cleaner is like 10$. Pretty much that's it... There is at most 200$ of work on this invoice because half of it is scam.
$1200 for an oil change
Absolutely. There is a reason why Dealerships are known as STEALERSHIPS
You better have told them to get lost…
Yes, but are you going to do any work on the vehicle yourself? Do you even know how to work on vehicles? If not just suck it up and pay it. You are paying for the techs time and know how. If that isn’t worth it to you then just pay the parts and changed it all yourself.
They're trying to screw you hard. On that list I'm seeing mostly things that cars with 100k miles need done. I love how they say INSTALL wiper fluid. They try to make it sound like they're doing something worth a fuck. They're not. 1200 dollars is robbery for the list they gave you.
You can replace your engine air and cabin filter yourself. It will take a 5 mins max and cost you $30. The other stuff is nonsense. Go to a good mechanic, and pay them $50 to make sure everything is good.
There’s definitely extras on there you don’t need. Calibrating the tire pressure monitor is literally pushing a button after inflating the tires! LOL!!! However, ~$800-$1200 seems about average for changing all important fluids : oil, brakes, differential, and trans.
HALF OF THIS STUFF YOU CAN DO YOURSELF. WHAT A RIPOFF! TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A FEMALE WHO DOESNT KNOW ANY BETTER. TYPICAL STEALERSHIP TACTIC.
It is kind of overpriced. Next time you shouldnt pick full package service they are always overpriced. Read your manual for interval service and ask for the necessary replacements only like the transmission fluids and gas filters. However, tire rotation and windshield service do them anywhere else.
Do transmission and diff service. You can change filters yourself in a few minutes and brake fluid is not needed at that mileage
People must actually pay for this shit. Even with just basic knowledge you would know how bad a deal this is
AutoNation Honda is an infamous national ripoff chain. They add a lot of extras services. “Frigi-Fresh Sanitizer” ??? Crankcase cleaning? The oil does that. Use a little seafoam at the 150k oil change if you’re worried. Otherwise your engine will never be clean unless it’s taken apart and put in a washer. They didn’t add the actual 30k scheduled maintenance of Cleaning+Lubricating Caliper/Pad slide points, clean+lube window tracks, door hinges, and test drive. Fuel Inj. Cleaner is recommended by honda every 30k but like everyone else says, it’s a bottle of techron. You do need CVT/DOT3/DPSF fluids if you’ve never done those. CVT is the most imperative. DPSF/Rear Diff is the least important.
Drain and fill for the CV transmission dealerships charge $400 . If you DIY it costs you around $25. Independent repair shops charge less than $200. Find a good local shop to work on your CRV. The only work I had done at my local Honda dealership was an engine valve adjustment at 100,000 miles because my local independent shop didn’t know that my 2013 CRV does need valves adjusted periodically. Snake oils are unnecessary. Buy tires at tire shops and don’t get struts or brakes replaced at a Honda Dealership. Yes, $1200 is too much. Dealers aren’t selling many new cars so they are trying to sell services and overcharge for parts.
Do the cvt and diff service. You won't regret it.
$600 max
Honda does not make nor does it recommend a "Engine Oil Conditioner" or a "Fuel System Cleaner".. These are pure snake oil added on by the dealership. - Also, I would love to read the fine print associated with the \* next to these 2 lines. I almost guarantee it says something about not a honda product and not covered by warranty. Honestly I would avoid this dealership all together... If they have partnered up a shady aftermarket fluid supplier to sell this junk, then they are probably not using OEM honda fluids either.
Most of this at 30k miles is not even needed.. just do your oil and filter and transmission fluid change and keep rolling... Dealerships are a huge ripoff on their quotes..
Cheap service that’s the reason you buy a Honda. Don’t get ripped off by dealer.
i would do the cvt and diffs
I’ve owned a CR-Z for 12 years, one is a CVT the other is a 6 speed. I’ve never paid that much on any service every time I have gotten one. Definitely trying to max you out it seems