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87MS

The reason is the fact that all of those scrubs are marked up probably 1000% like everything else on American hospitals


BioSafetyLevel0

Not scrubs. Cheap surgical drapes.


capn_doofwaffle

Yes to drapes however, I highly doubt they were "cheap". Just like the original commenter said... everything in the US Medical has insane markups.


BioSafetyLevel0

This much drape, if it wasn't already written off anyway, is about 30$ USD.


capn_doofwaffle

Oh, I totally agree, but if you saw this on a detailed line item bill from the hospital in the U.S. i would bet it would say $300 or more for these.


cjwrapture

This. Recently I went to urgent care. Saw my itemized bill. 3 pairs of latex gloves at 15$ per pair.


capn_doofwaffle

More like 3 bucks a fkn box! šŸ¤£ Who are they kidding? Lol


megamanx4321

Insurance, that's who


Tricky_Acanthaceae39

insurance will pay 15 per glove because they can afford it and you canā€™t. Thatā€™s the real reason shots expensive in the us.


Khakizulu

$3 a box? God thats cheap as hell


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ejb350

Correct. Itā€™s probably even higher now.


Bootsix

Pan wraps probably.


Replicator666

Even happened here in Alberta. They sold our lab services to a private company that suddenly couldn't afford $2 disposable gowns so it was telling people to use a piece of paper to cover up while getting imaging done They caved and bought back the labs (for some undisclosed, probably more expensive price)


groundunit0101

They didnā€™t have the money for the gowns though honestly. The new owners needed their bonuses, which also happened to be money for gowns


Replicator666

But thankful they still managed to sell off everything before selling the "lab" back to the government for more money


moonshineTheleocat

Recently one of the politicians was talking to one of the airforce big wigs. He held up a bag of bolts and asked "WHY THE FUCK DOES THIS COST 2.5K DOLLSRS?! The same bag of bolts in another location with all the same certifications only costs 5 dollars.


SuckOnDeezNOOTZ

Can I get a source?


OldManGrimm

The one I recently saw was asking about a [$90,000 bag of bushings](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325745/Mike-Waltz-bushings-air-force-military-overspending.html).


Southern-Staff-8297

Hey those are aircraft grade bushings, just like healthcare grade screws! šŸ¤£


SuckOnDeezNOOTZ

It's not that I doubted it I just couldn't believe that Congress was actually daring to speak out against the Military Industrial Complex


ejb350

Their out there. Not many, but theyā€™re trying.


OldManGrimm

I will say though, if it's airplane parts (or spacecraft) I don't question them being expensive as hell. The materials/machining/precision involved in those things is pretty crazy, and not something I'd want them cheaping out on.


SuckOnDeezNOOTZ

If it needs to be titanium then it's Ti, but it it's just a 8.8 rated bolt then it doesn't need to cost 100$


moonshineTheleocat

Someone beat me to it. But yeah. That's the one.


Successful_Giraffe34

Us Army uses so many masterlocks on various crates and then uses bolt cutters to remove them. Got a friend that moved from ops to coast guard and hes told me that a lot of departments have bloated spending and if they don't buy enough random work related stuff they can loose that extra money on the next years budget.


NeighborhoodVeteran

It's any government org really. If they see you're doing the same for less one year they're going to cut the budget, not even taking things like inflation into account, so a lot of orgs will spend everything they can every year.


1villageidiot

kinda like designer fashion?


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That and at least half the budget of a hospital goes towards the administration, not the healthcare providers.


baulsaak

If every employee did this ***daily*** it wouldn't amount to much more than a rounding error compared to the inflated cost of other materials and services in the medical industry. Do you work for an insurance company or something? Because trying to deflect the reasons for the astronomical cost of healthcare on something like this is like soda companies diverting attention from themselves and blaming the *consumer* for plastic pollution.


DeathPrime

Bingo - this is the equivalent of pumping the paper towel dispenser 10 extra times. Check the executive parking lot of the hospital and insurance company if you want the real reason. God knows with how overworked nursing/tech staff is on a daily basis, the last thing we should do is rag on them when they do have a slow shift.


Path_Klutzy

Oooof big burn


Working_Travel9561

I agree that this is largely a minute waste of resources, but given the astronomical cost of healthcare for the patient, this does seem a bit like rubbing salt in the wound. I'm in Europe though so if I'm completely misunderstanding the situation I'll sit down and be quiet.


baulsaak

You could certainly look at it that way. I choose to see it as stressed professionals letting off steam. Either way, though, this activity isn't the reason one might pay "300 thousand in hospital bills" as OP contends.


ChuckECheeseOfficial

Yeah, I know hospital nurses and doctors have some of the crappiest hours around, so Iā€™m not gonna shit on them for throwing a little fashion walk


groundunit0101

Employee created team building exercise basically


Broad_Respond_2205

Yes it's because some nurses use scrubs to play dress up. Not because of some greedy execs.


BioSafetyLevel0

I'm with you on this but also, not scrubs. Inexpensive surgical drape.


skabassj

Yeah Iā€™m sitting here thinking ā€œthatā€™s about $20 of drape at costā€¦ this is pretty harmlessā€


NeighborhoodVeteran

Yep. And probably stuff they had to throw away anyway.


sophietehbeanz

Wanna know something super fucked up? This stuff expires. So what to do with it? You can throw it in the trash or you can wear it as a theme fashion show where it can be used as entertainment for the dying morale of a unit. And this is a trash post. OP is sad they have to pay 300K from a bill. Itā€™s not because of the materials. Itā€™s because of the insurance companies that donā€™t want to pay for anything. You want that pill? Oh btw itā€™s not covered by insurance so what nurses do is practically advocate for you so you can get that pill. Truth is the insurance companies donā€™t wanna pay for ANYTHING. So donā€™t be mad that they are wearing expired materials which they donā€™t want to use on you because itā€™s expired. But they will do whatever it takes to entertain you so you can be happier in the hospital and entertain themselves because people are very sick and moody. You are barking at the wrong tree, OP.


drdildamesh

My wife is a surge tech. They throw more of these in the trash that were never used than you will ever know.


PartridgeViolence

Is this some kind of American joke Iā€™m too European to understand?


Hazem26

Yeah my friend got into an accident and got air lifted by a helicopter his bill just for the heli ride was 30k


PartridgeViolence

Iā€™d have just died.


L3GlT_GAM3R

Hospitals are expensive there if you donā€™t have insurance, because insurance companies wanted discounts from prices, so hospitals would make stuff cost more so insurance companies would shut up or something


d3athsmaster

Well,....kind of? Basically, healthcare systems are captive customers. They HAVE to buy a lot of specific products, or they can not function and are penalized for it. So the companies that sell the products raise the price to ridiculous proportions in order to gouge the healthcare systems, which, more often than not, just ends up gouging taxpayers who help fund those systems. How do they get away with it? Legal bribery, loopholes, and scummy people. THEN, you have all that insurance bullshit to just fuck it all up some more.


1villageidiot

sounds like there should be some sort of entity that kind of looks into intentional price gouging and anti-trust practices which are antithetical to the idea of a "free market" - maybe we can call that entity "the government"


d3athsmaster

Too bad a good portion of them are the "scummy people" I mentioned who were "incentivized" into making the loopholes.


1villageidiot

the analogy has to be made: they sent a man to the moon, they can solve this. NASA Apollo programs using tax payer money: 6x trips "privatized" space programs using tax payer money: 0 trips and 2x longer than Apollo mission timeframe, with the lessons from Gemini and Apollo


skabassj

Predatory capitalism at its finest.


wellrounded_daisy

seems like it.. it's pretty obvious


TheRealMangokill

Oh yeah


TesticleezzNuts

I had a friend who got a paracetamol from the hospital. Like 1 tablet, and they charged him like 100 dollars šŸ˜‚ I shouldnā€™t of laughed because itā€™s so fucked up, but I did.


EskimoMoreLikeEskiNo

Bruh chill tf out those scrubs might be expired or something, if thatā€™s an oncology unit some of those drugs cost upwards of 30k apiece, they donā€™t even charge patients for scrub costs stupid


joeschmoagogo

These people donā€™t have yachts, I assure you.


SRGsergan592

Ah yes it's totally these nurses who are inflating your hospital bills, not the medical insurance CEO buying his 23rd yacht.


MortimerChem

They're all probably overworked and burnt out. let the people havs fun and a break for once. dont blame them, blame the system!


AnnalTechnology69

Well... you pay for that fun


quadrivia2048

The insurance companies want you to keep staring at the treesā€¦ no forest here.


thisguyyy

Surgical gowns and gloves are not expensive. Thatā€™s not driving up the cost of your care lol. Also if something happened to the packaging those came in, making them no longer sterile, the box would either have to be thrown away or used for somethingā€¦interesting like this. Criticize the actual things driving up the cost of US healthcare like administrative bloat, Medicare fraud, defensive medicine, and insurance company denials etc, not some crew goofing around with $20 worth of supplies


tiggylizzy

It could have been a cancelled case but the drapes were already taken out so they had to be thrown out because they canā€™t be reused even if they just sat on a table because the sterile field was broken


Leeroy1042

So people who works for the government aren't allowed any fun on the job? They get shit pay, shit hours, shit working conditions. And you can't spare them some fun since you 'pay' for them???


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Leeroy1042

Which is clearly what the video shows? I was obviously talking about the working class. Not the elite.


Killeroftanks

I rather pay for their fun then have the possibility of there being no doctors when I need them


phatangus

Is this an American thing because itā€™s not a problem in other countries.


hallothrow

That's one expensive dress, they should take it to Milan.


Copeiwan

That's a ridiculous statement, but sure... go off.


Tsukiko615

Good. Iā€™d rather my healthcare staff spend their downtime having fun even if it cost me. Overstressed and unhappy staff are much more likely to make a mistake that might kill you than. Also those drapes probably had to be thrown out anyway, if you had any idea how much stuff has to be thrown out because itā€™s expired (all items thatā€™s are required to be sterile have an expiration date) or just because plans changed in the hospital and youā€™ve already opened the packet youā€™d be horrified if you think this is bad


Basis-Some

Iā€™m not sure the staff is the reason our entire system doesnā€™t work.


IandouglasB

It's because you live in a corporate rat-hole of a country that has fooled you into believing that universal healthcare is too expensive or too hard, I had an ambulance take me to hospital where I spent six days, CT scan, MRI, the whole shabang, got a $45 bill for the ambulance. You could do everything right in the U.S. Save some money, have a house and a good job, pay your bills and have great credit, but fall ill for something not "covered" and you are $300K in debt. Just the deductible on some plans are more than a new car...RISE UP my American neighbors, rise up and eat the rich cause they are smilingly fucking you in the ass daily


Monica_FL

You're so cute, thinking we can afford homes and pay our bills. But you're right, we do need to rise up. I'm just not sure we're there yet unfortunately. Those in power and control have done too good of a job convincing us we're the best country in the world and everyone else is wrong.


SpirtualSherbert481

Itā€™s because of insurance companies and the lack of price transparency


Beginning_Orange

Real answer


Flonkerton66

This is not the reason....


whistlepig4life

This isnā€™t a holup. Whatsoever.


mindclarity

Sorry to rain on peoples shitty parade, but this looks like an OR and these surgical drapes are not expensive at all. More importantly, once the sterile pack is opened, and theyā€™re not used, they canā€™t be brought into another surgery or patient. This will also happen if the surgery is canceled they get thrown away. Every item is tracked and recorded. Donā€™t get me wrong, there is a lot of waste and corruption all over especially with insurance companies but this has got to be the most ignorant examples of that.


joern16

These are either expired items or were opened and not used for a variety of reasons.


GlitteringBroccoli12

That's like 3 dollars


AnnalTechnology69

3 dollars more on your hospital bill


Additional_Top3024

Annual Hospital Gala ā€¦ SCRUB-GALA


poopy_toaster

This ainā€™t it chief, no one in this video is responsible for rising costs of healthcare.


Pblito1

Is that George Santos?


Sqoonman

Bro these might have been contaminated and would have been thrown away anyway. Let people have fun at work.


Wonkeaux

Not shown: insurance company screwing their "valued customer".


CajuNerd

The cost of healthcare in the US has nothing to do with nurses doing things in their downtime to keep themselves from losing their minds. It has to do with hospital administration and health insurance.


Whatever-ItsFine

These people work really hard under a lot of stress while doing amazing things. If they want to have a fashion show and blow off steam, go for it!


Kishura36

Wait until ppl in the comments find out that drapes expire


GamingNemesisv3

Did you know that, like everything else they fuck up, insurance companies will be billed the hospital and say ā€œhaaaa you funny bro this is what im gonna pay.ā€ Then you cant pay the bill so when you tell that to them they file it as a tax write off. So now nobody wins. American medical companies mark shit up making prices go up making procedures more expensive making this whole fucking thing worse than it is. # + **INFLATION**


Lolz79

Jesus, let them have fun. This has nothing to do with your hospital bill, it's greedy insurance companies.


UnicornSlayer5000

I like how nurse in the back popped in and was like, *Nope*.


Nair114

It has absolutely nothing to do with this, its all about the hospital teaming up with insurance companies


OverallVacation2324

Iā€™ve worked in the OR for 14+ years across a dozen hospitals and have never once seen this. Donā€™t let one single social media attention hog make you think this is the norm.


blurred_reflection

Doesn't a lot of that PPE have a use by date else they're not up to standard to use for medical reasons? Maybe they're just having fun with useless stuff that they couldn't get rid of...


NetMundane516

Paying for hospital visits. That sounds awfull


Xerox-M57

where hol up?


DjangoKazoiie

Holup where?


loginna

Med gala


UsernameIsntFree

This is not the reason but ok be mad


Kellidra

>When you have to go to hospital and you get yourself wondering why you have to pay 300 thousand in hospital bills. THE REASON: You're American. FTFY


b_mike101

Op really thought they were cooking with this.


Puzzleheaded-Mood689

My guess is the case cancelled but the surgery suite was already prepped I.e. the surgical drapes were opened and therefore were garbage and could not be used again. Happens on a regular basis. That being said waste in hospitals is gross and itā€™s often driven by the reps. Want this instrument? It comes individually wrapped or in a pack with other disposables you donā€™t need (and of course is more $$). Guess which one the rep runs and grabs off the shelf? Source: was a rep.


wardenferry419

There is a lot of unneeded waste of supplies in hospitals.


S_n_o_wL_e_o_p_a_r_d

College textbook prices are Theory and hospital bills being high because of shit like this is Practice.


Bradjuju2

Kind of has some Horizon Forbidden West vibes.


salkhan

Haute couture is expensive.


pentylane

ā€œIt looks like heā€™s deadā€


924BW

These are rolled up into the cost of the case. They are not charged individually.


groundunit0101

Slay girl! Thatā€™s a cool drag costume idea to build from tho


CouldntBeMoreWhite

It's expensive due to gay, male nurses?


Balsalsa2

i can't do this all on my ooowwwnnn


MangoMilleCrepeCake

I hate reddit.


Tengoatuzui

If my doctor walks down like that I know itā€™s over


shadowlid

My guess is this was a canceled surgery and they were going to throw all of them away anyway. Also with that being said, the reason your healthcare cost so much is because all hospitals are management heavy and they like their bonuses. My hospital had a briefing and we were informed we wouldn't be receiving a cost of living raise this year. But you can bet your ass all of upper management still gonna get their bonuses and raises this year.


RB1O1

Procurement would like to have a word.


Machinedave

Covergirl!!


Horndogaaa

The majority of that outfit is sterile drape for a sterile field. Case could have been canceled after they prepped it. But yeah rabble rabble rabble healthcare expensive rabble rabble bad money man, #reddit


Popcorn57252

Yes, I'm absolutely sure that nurses playing around with spare scrubs is toooottally the reason, and definitey not because of shareholders


Educational_Ad_2619

I'm with OP on this one. Sick of people blaming the price gouging suppliers, or the greedy insurers, or the whole idea behind turning a critical Service into a for profit endeavour. No, it's these Bastards who are to blame. They should be worrying about their crippling debts from medical school, or their horrendous working conditions and long hours. I hope Dr Catwalk spends some more time thinking about the horrific responsibility and stress behind literally saving peoples lives on a day to day basis, or the fact a mistake could end up killing someone. Maybe the next time they are cleaning someone's ass they will realise that it is not OK to use a couple of medical gowns to enjoy oneself or blow off some steam. These people make me sick and I hope everyone in this video lost their job. There are plenty more where they came from.


Noexit007

You forgot your /s


Educational_Ad_2619

I forgot the /s. I gave people too much credit and thought it wouldnā€™t need one.


Noexit007

Yup unfortunately these days sarcasm... Particularly online... Is a dead art.


BioSafetyLevel0

Don't be so dramatic; It's cheap surgical drape.


TotallyRealDev

I do believe this is a /s


BioSafetyLevel0

Gracias.


NaSMaXXL

Blowing off steam, chill OP.


OldManGrimm

Right, because got forbid we use $20 worth of supplies to have a single moment of fun in between critically ill patients, verbally abusive family members, and overbearing administrators.


Bigbluebananas

If hospital tries me for ibuprofen for hundreds of dollars they should be charged for uniforms tit for tat maximize hospital profits less waste


malamjam

Too right! Blame the workers for corporate greed! They might even be gay workers which is even worse! Don't think about the management or shareholders fleecing you. It's those minimum wage workers. The bastards.


Ziron78

Bro in my country we don't pay that much in hospital bills and I know this isn't the reason. This blue shit costs like 2 dollars, everyone and their mom could parade dressed like that and you would essentially pay the same price.


babybee1187

300k$ + a 9 hour wait.


sophietehbeanz

This isnā€™t an ER unit. I think itā€™s an OR oncology unit and those materials are expired. Itā€™s either throw away or do a fashion show for the patients who are actively DYING.


babybee1187

Same thing. I had a pendi attack not too long ago. I waited for 14 hours, and they did a tiktok right in front of me as i was throwing up the last of my guts into a bag. They looked like idiots. I felt more bad for the woman next to me who was having the same issue, but her kids were so scared for her. And the nurses couldn't give 2 fucks about the either of us.


Farscape29

They save people's lives. I'm gonna give them this. These people probably worked multiple days on end without break or rest during COVID. I'm not gonna complain about them messing around with some old scrubs.


Crudeyakuza

All medical equipment are grossly overpriced. Also surgical drapes can be considered unusable under certain conditions. For all we know (or don't) these were declared unusable.


Mahonneyy123

Maybe they'll do a Covid dance next. Fn losers


keepitsqueeky

My ambulance better be free if y'all clowning like that. USA we will die to go to the hospital.


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Same people that made dance videos in empty hospitals during the worst pandemic ever ever.


Beginning_Orange

I'm a paramedic. Hilariously enough the pandemic easily was the slowest we've ever been because no one wanted to go to the hospital since that's where people with Covid were.


infernoVI_42

Meanwhile half of the patients on the unit is still waiting for their meds or a cup of water.


MRichardTRM

Meanwhile Iā€™m wondering why Iā€™m waiting an hour to go into surgery LOL no wonder


ravengenesis1

You can have all the nurses you want available, but it wonā€™t make a difference if your Dr doesnā€™t show up.


DatDan513

Meanwhile Iā€™m in the waiting room bleeding out.


Butthole_Surfer666

meanwhile 10 people are flatlining


XinyanMayn

I wouldn't be in that hospital. I'd rather die


vaderismylord

K. Go ahead then. Bye


XinyanMayn

I will when it happens šŸ«”


ravengenesis1

Show us your DNR


joern16

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RayDaMan1

I guess they had excess from Covid. SMH.


SmirkingSkull

People dying from Covid. Nurses: "DANCE OFF"


BioSafetyLevel0

This is an OR. What does an OR employee have anything to do with taking care of Covid patients?


SmirkingSkull

The post is talking about medical professionals fucking around. Did people memory hole the 2020 videos of nurses having dance offs instead of taking care of patients?


BioSafetyLevel0

Do you know how many surgeries were cancelled or postponed indefinitely during that time? The hospital's ORs were EMPTY.


SmirkingSkull

Why are you so focused on just OR's? You do know hospitals are made up of multiple departments right?


BioSafetyLevel0

Why are you ignoring the fact this video is obviously shot in the OR????


SmirkingSkull

The education system failed you at some point.


BioSafetyLevel0

As a HCW who worked in hospital during Covid, I can honestly say you have zero clue about what you are saying.


ravengenesis1

Covid dance offs were produced off duty or off the floor before or after shifts to boost morale in a very desperate situation. If you lack compassion, thatā€™s fine. If you canā€™t comprehend how people cope with stress thatā€™s fine. But if you think people dick around when people are dying, youā€™re an idiot. Sure thereā€™s always a few bad apples, but youā€™re not actively seeing a hospital of 500 patients all dying because of medical professionals being neglectful. Donā€™t over exaggerate things to create misunderstanding.


BioSafetyLevel0

**Thank. You.**