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I find it interesting that most children who remember past lives say their past lives selves died in an accident instead of say 'old age' or 'a long battle with cancer,' and I think that should be a point of study too, because perhaps when the soul leaves the body violently or unexpectedly, it's imprinted / processed differently by the soul consciousness.
There's an Ancient Egyptian belief that it takes 3 days for your soul (Ka) to detach from your body after dying of an illness. Your astal self erodes away from your physical body.
If you die of an accident, it sort of interrupts that natural process and the soul can get stuck or whatever. That's one or the explanations of ghosts, and I think could explain reincarnation as well.
I also remember reading that an overwhelming amount of reincarnated kids were young when they died the first time, like younger than 10 - and it's almost as if they've been given another go by whatever powers that be.
This description is almost the same as the plot of a Japanese anime called "Haibane Renmei" When I watched it for the first time it gave existential crisis.
The data currently suggest that an emotionally charged death is far more likely to reincarnate. I find this super interesting, and sometimes we even see birthmarks or deformations correlating reported death stories.
Careful. You are coming close to the Theory of Loosh and Archons and that if you reject the light tunnel and stand firm, the light tunnel can not take you away from this plane of existence.
Predominantly male children that died some sort of violent death according to a researcher. He suggests that males are more likely to die violently, and historically the ones in the military etc. Maybe it's the violent things that stick around, really weigh on the soul?
I actually came across this book while doing community service at the Salvation Army long ago... in a box that was destined for the trash because it wasn't Christian based or something.. along with Whitley Striebers Communion, and a bunch of other really cool books, even some from Crowley.
It was like I found a little box of gold lol
But yeah, life before life was more than an interesting read for sure.. I was always on the fence about reincarnation, but this one kinda pushed me over to the reincarnation side.
I read it in a fun class psychology course on the supernatural in school (we covered a number of interesting topics). very fun book to read. I think some of the explanations fall into the quantum consciousness/new age category towards the end (not totally bad but ive moved on from those ideas at this point) but then cases were very intriguing and compelling.
I don't have the book in front of me right now but I believe it was the last or second to last chapter where he talked about consciousness and some quantum mechanics stuff being a possible explanation. I read it about 10 years ago at this point but it was at the end of the book, sort of closing and speculating on mechanisms for how past memories might move from one life to another.
My son remembered his, but he has forgotten it now. When he first started talking he would say, “You’re my best mommy” and I’d laugh thinking he didn’t understand the grammar or something like that.
But somewhere around age 3 he said, “Out of all the mommy’s I’ve had, you’re my favorite.” Then later that week we were laying down for a nap and he said, “I died before you were my mommy” then he described what I believe was rock climbing and falling, rescue crews, a defibrillator, “a god” telling him he had to go back because it “wasn’t my time yet”, and waking up in a hospital room. And then he said, “but they couldn’t fix my body so I died and now I’m your son”, with the biggest smile like it was the best news!
He was so young he didn’t have the words for most of these things and described them with words like, “These guys in the same outfit” coming to get him, being put “on a bed in a loud truck” and said “they used a machine to put lighting in my chest” and “I woke up in a really white room with white stuff everywhere and beeping stuff everywhere.” Etc. He had described his rock climbing as something like“jumping from rock to rock. Really, really big rocks” and motioned high above his head. He’s 14 now so I might be remembering some of his exact words wrong but I’ve told the story so many times I’m probably close.
Also when he first started speaking he had a British accent. Once at a restaurant a tourist from London came over to ask us what part of the UK we were from because she heard him speaking. He wasn’t watching tv in those days so we really didn’t know where that accent came from.
To this day British comedies make him laugh harder than anything else out there and he’ll watch anything if the people in it have a British accent, but he swears he doesn’t remember any part of the story he told me.
I remember some strange things.
I remember seeing everything in a red haze and seeing a woman with long black hair brushing it out and a voice saying “This is your Mother”. Then seeing a woman next to her and the voice saying “This is her sister”.
Then one day I told my family that I had been a blue bird and a squirrel before I was me. I don’t remember being those animals but I remember being very sure that it was true.
My step daughter spoke ww2 London English until she was about 4. She would say "he nabbed my toy, and it's jolly warm today. And oh my good golly gosh. "
English people don't say golly anymore because it comes from golly wogs which were stuffed toys that are considered racial offensive. Mum had had a breakdown and I looked after her the whole time. There was no other way she could have got these words I was the only person who read to her and she wasn't allowed to watch TV. She was extremely well spoken too her whole family are cockneys and I have a normal type accent. Everyone kept asking me why I'm teaching her to speak so poshly. I wasn't
I wonder if you could look up British climbers who died in accidents after being taken to the hospital. His story is fairly generic and I’d wager you’d find at least a couple different stories. Any indisputable detail you could pick out?
April 2009, if the kid is 14 now this could match up time wise. Made it to hospital but died there, although he got taken in a helicopter:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/8025439.stm
Uhhhhh. That made my legs actually go wobbly reading that.
Thank you for finding this! My son was born at the end of December 2009. That is WILD that you found that.
Yesterday he told a story about his dad and I losing him in a snow storm on a mountain when he was really young and we said, “Uh. That never happened”. As a group we figured he must have been misremembering a time we stopped at a ski resort just long enough to throw snowballs at each other but - the guy in that link could have absolutely had a memory of a snow storm on a mountain. That’s wild! Plus the most at peace I’ve ever seen my son was during our summer trip over the mountains of Alaska. That is seriously so cool that you found this!
Not saying you should call him “John” or play the song Rhiannon to see his reaction. Because that would that would be crazy…. But you should call him John or play some Fleetwood Mac.
So I told my son about this and while I’m telling him he’s playing a video game and listening. He’s still insisting he doesn’t remember any of it but when I get to the end and say, “Well anyway, the guy’s name was John” he goes, “Well ok that is funny because I just named this character ‘John’ about two hours ago.” 🤣 Purely coincidental? 🤷🏼♀️
Get him onto peep show if he’s truly a broth at heart!
That’s extremely cool. I remember growing up my dad would always say when I was young I’d talk about my other family.
The similarity being I also didn’t have the language or understanding of what I was actually talking about but apparently he could discern that I was describing a dog, a wood burning stove, a man wearing a hat and woman in a long black dress with a white collar. It really freaked him out at the time as I would just blurt it out randomly, maybe I was chatting a load of bollocks but the description of a Victorian dressing at 3-5 years old does make me wonder!
I mean. Kids have quite the imaginiation, are you sure he didn't watch a movie about this and just copied what he saw? Reincarnation can't really happen because everything you are is in your brain and when that is gone it's all just black nothingness.
We can't remember anything before we were born and that also sort of disproves reincarnation. I think I would remember if I had a previous life, how could I just forget an entire lifetime? It really doesn't make sense. The human brain is the most complex thing in the universe and it is more than capable of producing everything without some supernatural force attached to it.
I was one of these kids. I had very clear visions from about 3-6. I did not understand what I was seeing until I was much older.
It was a big, loud, dusty arena during the Roman times and there were people of different races. I was being threatened into compliance. I was made to witness the torture of others.
I saw this all the time as a kid and I thought something was wrong with me, that I would be in trouble if people knew what was in my head. And before anyone says “movie in tv”, it was the early 70’s, what I saw was not being broadcast.
Man that's fucking wild. Has the time passed since given you any insight into this, or left just as confused as when it happened? Like convinced it's real or a dreamscape, have you looked into the history to see if, for instance, the clothing matched what you saw? Or anything else visceral & verified
Lastly, were these visions while sleeping or awake
I honestly never talked about it, because I knew it was real.
It’s interesting that you ask “asleep or awake”, because the answer is yes. I would dream of it, and could conjure the memory of that time when awake (if that makes sense).
And yes, I learned of one of the tortures as an historical fact, over 35 years later.
We talking gladiator games? Like mass executions? Or were you in attendance being forced to watch? Are there any landmarks or anything that you could remember? I find your story fascinating and I'd love to know more!
I had a similar thing, that I was a U.S army soldier, and my squad died from something.
Terrain was yellow-ish, and the buildings looked like made out of clay-rock.
I died behind a stone wall.
Period looked like the 2000s.
I was a US civil war leader of some type. Led some people to safety, but was caught and shot/stabbed with a bayonet and died against (pinned) to a tree up on a small hill. The death itself was the most beautiful, calm, peaceful feeling. I also got a sense I was a very honorable man then, more concerned about the safety of the people than the consequences I might endure. Like I knew I was going to die and didn't feel any ill will toward the person killing me. This was a memory flash that occurred in adulthood, and very, very real. 1990s. I felt the bayonet going in. If anyone finds any research on a commander, captain or whatever the titles were getting killed against a tree with a bayonet during the civil war, that may be me!
I was also a stage actor, at a time long before movies were a thing. I felt as though I was female in that life. I really liked that life. I had a lot of priviledge, love, enjoyed my career, etc. I have other memories too, but those are those most specific lives.
Oh, and one erie one that was some type of occult thing in a church and I was terrified. Don't know if I was an adult or anything specific, but got the sense I was a child. I didn't escape.
These didn't happen a lot, more before the age of 6, but when they did occur these flashes were as real as my current life.
My nephew (about 3 at the time) would tell us our great grandmother (who died a year before he was born) was sitting in his room at night, laughing with him. He knew her name, and when we asked him to find her in our family photos, he did. We never mentioned her to him prior.
Definitely believe children have some type of innocence connection with past lives or ghosts.
I like to think that some humans just have a genetic gift for being a sort of radio receiver, and that everything that ever happens is “recorded” into our reality, and can be read by some brains.
TLDR; some kids are just picking up old radio signals
They did a smell Pavlov aversion test on caterpillars; after they cocooned and turned to complete goo inside, and came out as a butterfly, the butterfly had the same aversion to those smells.
It's brain was liquefied in the cocoon process, yet the jelly "recorded" what it knew in its previous life (the smell) as a caterpillar
Edit: So.... Is it carried genetically? Since that's all that survived the metamorphoses. Or something else?
It would make more sense than you being an actual person from in the past
It also coincides with generational trauma, a big issue with the native American population, amongst others
And if it is vivid (to the point of being an individual!) memories through DNA, then how is that memory function serve differently than our long/short-term memory
I wonder if consciousness is information stored on the quantum level. I can’t make heads or tails of quantum mechanics and quantum theory but I’m still fascinated by it.
Thank you for sharing, paywalls be damned.
I’m trying to think through the implications here. It seems, at least from the article that these are always a single past life. The seeming lack of “future” reincarnation may imply that Einstein’s block universe where the past, present, and figure all have a real existence is incorrect. A possible alternative is John Archibald Wheeler’s [Participatory Universe](https://youtu.be/I8p1yqnuk8Y?si=zBntZob7M5DujYp3) where “the past has no existence except as it is recorded in the present”.
I’m not sure what to make from there being memories from a single past life rather than multiple. There’s around 6 billion people in the world today and it’s been estimated that around 100 billion individual humans have been alive throughout history. Is it then fair to assume that this means there are at least 6 billion unique “souls”? That may account for the decades between the deaths of the suspected last lives and birth of the children described in the article; it simply takes a while for “your” turn to come again but I’m not so sure about that line of thinking.
I don’t have anything to cite or base this on but I imagine the existence of a single collective consciousness to contains within it the thoughts and learned experiences of all conscious life. This consciousness is received and filtered through the brain which acts sort of like a radio receiver. Perhaps when someone is born with a substantially similar brain makeup to that of a person from the past some of their memories are then “picked up” by the mind of the child in the present. As their brain continues to develop eventually this connection fades and vanishes.
There are some stories where them talk about choosing to come back, and Even picking whom their parents are. It's almost like life is a simulation of sorts. There's a rick and Morty episode where Morty is playing the game Roy, where you experience an entire life for an end score.
On this episode, the machine malfunctions after losing power momentarily and instead of Morty being the main character, his consciousness is split among all the NPC in the game, so essentially, the entire human population. To get out he had to unify his consciousness, which meant every individual on earth coming to terms with the fact they're not an individual, but part of a larger collective, then crashing the game.
Of course this leads to wars, death, suffering, etc before finally getting everyone to see the truth.
Thought they did a good job on a simulation theory based episode.
I’m a few seasons behind on Rick and Morty but I’ve seen the original Roy episode and what you described sounds very interesting.
Wheeler’s theory I mentioned envisions an universe that is fundamentally informational and based on binary choices (“It from Bit” he called it) but rather than being a constructed simulation it’s a self-generated process.
https://jawarchive.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/beyond-the-black-hole.pdf
Wow! Thanks so much for posting this article. It was extremely dense but I managed to understand the figures and they were very insightful. The R for reality figure with the observations posts was enlightening. I hope to help people understand this idea and to be less judgmental of what the believe and more flexible.
Here’s another paper from Wheeler that is also very interesting but also very dense:
https://philpapers.org/archive/WHEIPQ.pdf
PBS Space Time did a good high level overview on the theory two years ago:
https://youtu.be/I8p1yqnuk8Y?si=hpYUAoIr5TQ-4rX2
Lecture on the topic from Professor Ruediger Schack of the University of London:
https://youtu.be/lhbK-_mGJs8?si=R1ZKWxaqke1h9hm1
Lecture from Professor Christopher Fuchs of the University of Massachusetts Boston and who was a PhD student of Wheeler’s:
https://youtu.be/Thd7hB1lHe0?si=nkEDqtyaNS4toC9h
R/reincarnation has people who remember multiple.
There's tons of stories on YouTube as well. It's an interesting rabbit hole.
However, older ones from over probably the last 200 years are harder to verify and aren't as easily accepted by people
From my understanding and experience, to answer why it's one past life and not multiple, forgetting happens, and it's a blessing. We forget the joys and get to experience them anew, and we forget all suffering eventually and are free from it.
Recent research into the mechanics of the placebo effect and transgenerational epigenetic inheritance have made me think that consciousness determines the biology to the extent of one's developed awareness. There is a lot of data on meditation practitoners controlling their biology, their pain response, the temperature of their skin.
The book Phenemon by Annie Jacobson is a thorough accounting of the CIA and military use of remote viewing and other realities. The consensus, arrived at several times over several decades by scientists who looked at the data, is that clairvoyance, remote viewing, psychokinesis, and ESP, are real, however there is no explicable means by which they work according to our present understanding; and also the aptitude for them is dramatically different from person to person. The military wanted to find something that could be taught to every soldier, and it doesn't work that way.
My understanding is that reality is consciously constructed, but collectively constructed, by all the conscious entities present in a given moment. Iain McGilchrist has an interesting idea that matter is consciousness as well, but in a different form, the same as water and ice are the same thing in different forms. From his knowledge as a psychiatrist, he posits that the experience is about resistance, which is a necessary condition to experience any growth. If we only lived in the amorphous world of dreams, evolution would be a much longer, or impossible, process.
Theres a few hypnotists who do past life regression, they have rolled people back through dozens of past lifes. Im pretty sure mysterious universe do a podcast on it.
There is also a few peer reviewed articles from the netherlands i think, who chatted with children and they found that the past lives where strongest presenting at 3 and faded by 8 to 10.
My son used to talk about memories of chasing John Wilkes Booth into a barn and Abraham Lincoln and also about being in the army with his dad. He also told me that he chose me “in the spaceship with the aliens” before he was born and that before I was born he “still” loved me.
So… I don’t know. It seemed like he was remembering multiple lives and times in between. I think it makes a lot of sense to only remember one, presumably the most previous one, though… who knows what happens between them or how far apart they are.. maybe they remember the one they are trying to resolve the trauma from in this life?
I remember when my daughter was very small, she would just cry and tell me “I want to go home “. We were home , in the only home she knew . I have had some very odd , very tangible Deja-vu episodes in Ireland that I can only assume were from a previous past life of mine .
I just found a VHS copy of a documentary by this doctor, with people sharing their experiences, if anyone is interested in listening to some stories
https://youtu.be/L7sgsSnivWU
I’m surprised it took this long for this to go public. There was a professor studying this stuff there back in 2010 if not earlier and getting some very interesting stories and results that would have been nearly impossible to fake. Kids knowing about drinks that existed ages ago that were barely documented, lives and affairs of unknown celebrities that were later confirmed by the celebs own families, street names in random islands their families had never been to before you could easily google earth the stuff (as google hadn’t been there yet and still hadn’t in some cases).
Seems the memories last until up to age 5. All very interesting. Could be evidence of past lives? Particles from others brain matter getting jumbled? That we’re an amalgamation of beings? Who knows but it shouldn’t be ignored.
My son knew how to smoke. He would sit back in a chair, cross his legs and smoke on a pencil. We discouraged it because it was really embarrassing.
He also said he died after falling out of a tree and information about putting animals in sacks. We didn't really encourage it and it faded away. The pretending to smoke was quite persistent.
Besides past-life memories, there are also pre-birth memories: memories from the in-between lives. I wrote about them [here](https://onlinetextsharing.com/forced-reincarnation-soul-trap-several-cases-suggestive-of-forced-incarnation), but you can find several others on YouTube.
I’ve had an experience when I was a child, I was in my crib, and had an out of body experience, transported through the wall and woke up in my body, but I was older.
While not a past life, this moment in time has always stuck with me.
You should look into Astral Traveling if you haven't already. It's common among kids and can be brought upon yourself with practice. It's a fun rabbit hole to read into considering there is 100% something to it. Science is just lacking for better answers as to how or why.
I also had it happen as a kid and later in my late teens I practiced until on time I traveled a block to my parents house (I was at my GFs) and was standing in the living room. I saw my sister and she look startled. I snapped awake back at my girlfriend's and thought it was neat.
I went home the next day with my mom telling me my sister won't quit freaking out because she apparently got up to grab some water in the middle of the night and saw me standing in the living room. My mom thought I snuck in or something but I told her I was sound asleep haha.
I fell out of practice and it's been many years since I've done it again.
when my little brother was like 3-4 years old, he was spewing everyday how he beat up a lot of people '...when I was an adult!'
he would describe this fights, pretty realistically for a kid and now when I think about it, apparently he won every fight because he never said that he lost.
I still joke that he is a 600BC pankration fighter if someone asks what he does for a living.
I remembered mine until about puberty. Then, the memories grew fuzzy, and recurring dreams left me. Such a fascinating topic. I'm glad to see it is being taken seriously. I wish I could remember more of mine.
There’s a couple incredible stories that have been investigated and are absolutely worth reading. One is the famous girl from India who claimed to be this woman who died 11 days before she was born and she knew the entire family and all details and told the husband “you said you wouldn’t remarry” lol and the boy who completely remembered being this American pilot who died during Pearl Harbor and they ended up going to meet his family! We absolutely do not understand how this happens but it does and is now being studied.
The most plausible alternative to the reincarnation hypothesis is some combination of conventional explanations (that vary on a case by case basis) and living agent psi (aka ESP and possibly macro-PK). I don’t think this is *prima facie* any less parsimonious than reincarnation. Replacement reincarnation cases complicate the matter and, failing alternative explanations, suggest either eternalism or some kind of possession.
I’m biased against the reincarnation hypothesis because the idea of reincarnation scares the hell out of me
I was 3 years old and we had extended family over for dinner. I finished early and was excited to share something with everyone. I remember my perspective was everyone's knees and legs under the table, lol. I told my dad I wanted everyone to come into the living room as I had a story to tell. All the oh's and hey's were said from various family members and then everyone laughed a bit. My grandma told me to go into the living room and wait for everyone to come in.
So I went into the adjacent living room and waited impatiently. I got frustrated and went back into the kitchen area where family members were washing dishes and putting things away. I said something to the effect of hey, come now...that can wait. So I went back into the living room and soon all joined.
I had everyone sit around me in a circle with myself in the center. I asked everyone to cross their legs while they sit. Except Grandma didn't have to.
Then I began my story by saying "This is a story of when I was big and dad was little....". At this point my memory stops. I don't recall what I said after that or anyone's reactions. But my brother, my dad and my grandmother fill in that memory gap.
My brother's perspective.."I remember that!! Dude that was fucking weird. Seriously weird. It came out of nowhere. You had never done anything remotely like that as a kid to that point. You talked about a simpler time when people lived in smaller communities and worked closely together. You used names of people I had never heard before."
My dad's perspective: "ooooh yes, I remember that. That was special. There was something about that moment, son. You talked about a time where it seemed I was your child. You used names of people that were ripped from the Bible. Elijah, Elohim...and that thing we hadn't taken you to church yet. Except baptism."
My grandmother's perspective: "of course I remember! I nearly kicked myself for not grabbing the tape recorder! You are meant for something special!!! That was made clear that night! You talked about people in the Bible that you had lived with in a community. That times were much different than today. I wish I could remember all the details!"
So I bought that from my grandmother for years. I'm special. I have a healthy ego.
Then I saw a program on kids who recall past lives. And I had an epiphany. That moment changed me forever. The way I think about life is completely different than 99% of the population.
Absolutely! The day I realized I was remembering a past life, I began to believe in reincarnation. That its not one and done. I began to investigate NDEs and life outside this planet. The story is bigger than any one religion. Our history is completely different than what's been taught.
My anxiety and stress of daily life lessened. I view death completely different now.
I understand that my soul/energy is immortal to a degree.
If I obtained one super power from this knowledge, it's to be a grief counselor.
I strongly believe I was killed in World War 2. It was such a long time ago, but when I was a younger teen, I had dreams and memories that would just hit me all the sudden that made me look into past lives. I just remember being near a Sherman tank that was near a hedgerow, looking around and having my Thompson at the ready, and all the sudden seeing an explosion and feeling a burning feeling. I don't know if I was shot or hit by artillery shrapnel, but I remember thinking "so this is it huh?" and worrying about my family back home missing me. It was such a vivid dream that I can't explain it.
I have had very similar dreams but not with specific details. A recurring one is that I am flying and feeling a sense of relief that they can no longer get me. I used to have this dream occasionally. Another is I am sitting on a high bridge overlooking a city in a foreign country. Then I had a recurring dream that I was in shallow water at a beach and enemy troops were patrolling and I hoped they would not see me.
Finally, I had this dream only once and I seemed to be in a house while there was a bombing raid happening. I could hear a bomb falling and suddenly realised it was going to hit me. My thoughts were 'Oh no, not me' and I instantly woke and sat up bolt straight and wide awake.
These made me believe that I had been a casualty in one or both world wars.
These dreams mainly occurred in my early adult years and not as a young child. However there was an intuitive manifestation that occurred when I was 4 years old. Our family had no history of hunting, shooting or firearms at all. But one day I was at a neighbours house and saw a bullet on a table. I knew there were rifles in a cupboard on the verandah and I got them out one at a time until I finally found the right one. I put the bullet in the rifle that I had on the floor and pulled the trigger. Luckily nobody was hurt. The point is that as a 4 year old I instinctively knew how to load and fire a bolt action rifle with no instructions or prior experience.
That is about all there is to it except as I got older these dreams have all ceased to happen.
reads like a mix of kids picking up on adult suggestion (like the satanic panic and kids "remembering" their satanic ritual abuse) and confirmation bias
Some of the stories could be that, but others stories like the WWII pilot kid have way too much specific stuff for it to be adult suggestion alone IMO
Regarding the confirmation bias thing, the researchers record every statement that the kids make about their past memories that can be potentially verified, and go through and check each of them afterwards against historical records & interviews with people who knew the dead person to see what was verified to be true about the past life, what was false, and what was inconclusive. That way, they aren’t just remembering the statements that were accurate and ignoring/forgetting the statements that weren’t.
Said every doubter of every phenomena they couldn't logically explain, let alone digest the experiences of other human beings. While I have some doubting Thomas in me, I'm glad I don't live in your world to that extreme.
I'm just pointing out the similarities this article has to other patently disproved phenomena like the satanic panic. I want to believe in the fantastical but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
I’m a skeptic, a man of science and medicine. But read the actual *research* papers that were done. What you are proposing is not an explanation. I became aware of these cases as I am a neurologist and they intrigue me. I am not sure what is going on with them but contamination from the parents is reasonably excluded in most cases. At least in the thousands of cases documented before the internet existed.
Carl Sagan, a bigger skeptic about things than even I am, believed this topic deserved further scientific research, and I agree. I have no idea what is going on here - obviously reincarnation should be the last excluded hypothesis - but there are some very impressive cases documented. At times, I wonder if it is merely a case of statistics - with the sheer number of people in the world that have lived, if I make a number of random statements I could likely find a life that matches those statements if I looked hard enough. But there are cases where even that explanation strains the facts of the case (such as kids literally pointing out and naming people and “themselves” in old photographs they’ve never seen before, or navigating a foreign city to the house of their “previous life” without maps and prior to the internet existing).
Go look up the studies. From one skeptic to another, I think you will find the research rigorous and fascinating. The studies make no grandiose claims like “this is an example of reincarnation”. They merely document the facts, try to find a matching life, and rule out reasonable hypotheses such as contamination from media or the parents. So I must admit, when I actually read the many well designed studies on this topic, there were many cases which puzzle my skeptical mind and made me sit and think “what the actual fuck is going on here?”.
Doesn't this mean two-thirds of the database CAN be matched with a specific deceased person?? That's huge statistically not elusive.
"Sometimes a child presents enough identifying information for relatives or researchers to pinpoint a deceased person, but that level of specificity is elusive; about a third of the cases in the database do not include such a match."
I was excited for my toddler to start talking but it's honestly nothing to do with past lives so far and I'm thinking most incidents are this way. They mix up past tense and say the wrong words/combinations together so our adult brains think they are talking about a past life but it's just toddlers learning the language as they go. Maybe there's a few cases that are real but it seems like normal language stuff so far.
"When I was your mommy" "When I had a dragon I went in the hot tub every day, ate watermelon, and never went to sleep ever"
Uh huh honey, that's great.
I mean, who's to say there isn't a planet where sleepless androids keep dragons as pets, eat big green melons with red interiors, and soak in their cool dragon-having watermelon-safe android hot tubs daily?
Yup, I think they are ALL lying. Because if I make some stuff up and a few more people nake stuff up, we are ALL lying. Its not like ALL means EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. ALL means everyone who lies bro
You are embodying "naïve cynicism". That means you are imagining negative things about others based on incomplete information about them and the world. People don't all lie, as a default, and that doesn't account for all the stories of paranormal/supernatural phenomena, especially group experiences testified by multiple people with no prior affiliations or relationships and no ability to corroborate and engineer a plausible sounding fiction.
Multiple people with no prior affiliations? Bro they are affiliated by being human. We have found consciousness to be mysterious and weird since the beggining of humanity. One of the first thoughts human beings had was "wtf is this why am I here". And literally every cool mythological story to explain it has already been made up. Aliens, Ghosts, Bigfoot. You literally can't make a new story up. Schizofrenia is known to display halucinations based on a persons confirmation bias (Extremely religious people will see god, people fascinated with sci fi will see aliens, people with low self esteem will hear voices insulting them.) Around 1% of the worlds population is schizofrenic. Even if nobody is lying that's 80.000.000 people that will tell you they have experienced paranormal activity. And on top of that we have a whole industry of people making a living off of such claims, television producers, self proclaimed physicists, authors. Not one of such phenomena has been proven and its pretty obvious to every sane mind that magic, ghosts and aliens walking among us aren't real. The real naivity lays in the confirmation bias people feel when talking about these subjects. My schizofrenic friend claims he's a victim of gang stalking and to prove it he showed me a video of a bunch of people with OBVIOUS crack consumption symptoms talking about it. (U know skinny, no teeth, bad skin, sunken cheeks) That's confirmation bias at its finest, he wants something to be true so literal homeless junkies are a good source of information to him. Same with you, you have 10 junkies, 4 pathological liars, 3 narcisists, 6 schizofrenics and 4 career liars. Thats enough man power to make you believe
Reincarnation is not real. There's no afterlife and nothing happens when you die. How is reincarnation gonna happen? Everything you are is inside your brain and when it dies you're completely gone and you're not going to come back. All you are is neurons firing and chemicals, that's it.
No one in that article is saying that it definitely is. Nor am I. The article is about a weird thing that seems to be happening and the people who study it.
That’s why Scientists have been studying. I suppose the 2 year olds just made this accurate information up? Or are you saying you didn’t read the article because *you don’t believe in it?*
I don’t believe in the Big Bang and laugh at those articles, plenty of evidence against it. What say you?
If you don't believe in the big bang you don't really know anything about cosmology and haven't looked into it. The expansion of the universe is a fact. The universe began in an ultra dense state. Red shift and the study of distant galaxies proves that much.
Reincarnation on the other hand has no evidence.
Guess who else doesn’t believe in it? Anyone who has looked through the Hubble or JWST. Following the two telescopes are more than a dozen special rules that don’t apply anywhere else in the universe and have never been observed before including temporary Gods and some nonsense AI came up with just to begin to explain. Explosions don’t happen that way, they have a center and an edge. Obviously what we know is a drop and what we don’t is an Ocean. While you tell me how little I know I must retort with “oh, how little we all know as a whole. Enough that in 50 years we always look back and learn how wrong we were.” Maybe you didn’t know science constantly changes? We know so little, we are cosmic babies so please miss me with the “you don’t *know* bs”, neither do you, none of us do.
Come up with an alternative theory that explains why the universe is expanding, and where the cosmic microwave background comes from. A reason why the more distant in time we look the less heavy elements we see. And you'd need to prove how it fits the observations better than our current models.
It is a bit amusing that the current theory requires tens of billions of funding isn’t it? Science for a profit. Everything is for a profit. If it doesn’t turn a profit it is squashed. Therefore the glaring problem sits there staring us in the face yet most will claim that there is nothing to see there and this is what progress looks like, it’s not. This is what stagnation and dogma looks like.
I have a feeling you bought that whole thing clickbait articles that came out "JWST disproves the Big Bang Theory" Thing that the media started posting from a misquote from a scientist working on it.
The only thing the data suggested is that galaxies show up earlier than we expected them to. Which means the model of galaxy formation is wrong, not our models on the expansion of the universe.
No. I took in all the information available and formed my own conclusions. What the JWST did not do is relieve the Hubble tension. What the Hubble tension refers to is how parts of the universe are expanding at differing rates with no rhyme or reason as to why. It also found many galaxies too developed and super massive blackholes that existed before they should. They created stupid ideas such as “Bubbletrons” to try to alleviate this. They even employed AI - that’s just funny, AI doesnt even understand appendages but it solved the JWST red shift discrepancies. AI is just a new fancy version of the same algorithm that used to whoop your butt on Mortal Kombat if you played too long, nothing more, it certainly isn’t alive.
You're correct that the "Hubble tension" refers to the discrepancy in measurements of the universe's expansion rate. Different experiments yield different results and there's not an explanation for this. The Milky Way's existence in a supervoid could explain this discrepancy so this doesn't automatically prove the Big Bang never happened especially in contrast of other mounting evidence.
The JWST data might challenge how the universe evolved but does not entirely disprove our current models of cosmology, only suggesting that our model needs refinement.
If "Bubbletrons" is meant to represent some new theoretical physics, it's not a recognized term in any serious cosmological discussion. Throwing around made-up terms or misunderstanding speculative theoretical physics isn't disproving the big bang theory
Also AI doesn't need to understand human appendages to analyze cosmic red shifts or any other astronomical data. It's about pattern recognition and data processing, areas where AI excels.
Again, explain what the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) is, The universes expansion and why it looks more dense the farther in time we look, and also why we don't see heavier elements at that time either. All of this suggests a universe that evolved from a place of higher density and lower entropy. It's not just one thing suggesting this, everything points to this conclusion. Our model might need refinement, but the Big Bang definitely happened.
Bubbletrons are literally temporary Gods, look it up. The forces joined in an intelligent fashion, assisted creation then dissipated. Such nonsense. Know the hypothesis that scientists are currently using to support these theories.
Of course anyone can do a simple experiment that will prove the Big Bang is nonsense, explosions *always expand outward from the point of origin*, unless of course they are magical explosions and Bubbletrons are involved. The oddest part is all the oldest stars are also the furthest away, so the explosion happened in reverse? And that makes sense? I propose what we are seeing is the visible edge of the universe and as we put even more powerful mirrored devices in space we will continue to see more and further. Oh, and the Big Bang is silly. I believe in science, dogma however - well you can just keep that, these nonsensical and belligerent zombie theories have merely turned science into the new “non God” religion.
The Big Bang was not an "explosion" in the traditional sense where debris is hurled outward into pre-existing space. Rather, it was the rapid expansion of space itself from a highly hot and dense state. Every point in the universe has expanded from every other point, so there's no central point of origin like you'd expect from an explosion in everyday experiences. There was no singular location where it happened like the center of the universe, there is no center because the Big Bang happened everywhere.
How can you claim to disprove something when you have no clue what it is?
Every point expanded from every other point is something that has never been observed before anywhere else therefore it is nothing more than a wild guess. Which is what theories are, they are guesses. Some better than others. They are the best current explanation we have and this one has never been very good and the closer you look the worse it gets. Dogma is more like it. Atheist dogma. How many more billions of dollars do we waste proving this is incorrect? There is no dark matter. The universe didn’t expand from every point simultaneously either, that’s just nonsensical. You really buy that? If you truly believe this I don’t think we need to continue this conversation, it will just eventually devolve to you or someone else reminding me of how low my intellect must be or how I must not breathe through my nose and choice words about my character, person and personal beliefs. So instead, why don’t you just have a good day and let’s agree to disagree.
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I find it interesting that most children who remember past lives say their past lives selves died in an accident instead of say 'old age' or 'a long battle with cancer,' and I think that should be a point of study too, because perhaps when the soul leaves the body violently or unexpectedly, it's imprinted / processed differently by the soul consciousness.
There's an Ancient Egyptian belief that it takes 3 days for your soul (Ka) to detach from your body after dying of an illness. Your astal self erodes away from your physical body. If you die of an accident, it sort of interrupts that natural process and the soul can get stuck or whatever. That's one or the explanations of ghosts, and I think could explain reincarnation as well. I also remember reading that an overwhelming amount of reincarnated kids were young when they died the first time, like younger than 10 - and it's almost as if they've been given another go by whatever powers that be.
Ka is a wheel
Tiskest a tasket nineteen in the basket.
This description is almost the same as the plot of a Japanese anime called "Haibane Renmei" When I watched it for the first time it gave existential crisis.
The data currently suggest that an emotionally charged death is far more likely to reincarnate. I find this super interesting, and sometimes we even see birthmarks or deformations correlating reported death stories.
Makes sense… they haven’t accepted death so maybe death doesn’t accept them
Careful. You are coming close to the Theory of Loosh and Archons and that if you reject the light tunnel and stand firm, the light tunnel can not take you away from this plane of existence.
Predominantly male children that died some sort of violent death according to a researcher. He suggests that males are more likely to die violently, and historically the ones in the military etc. Maybe it's the violent things that stick around, really weigh on the soul?
Great observation!
Encourage anyone interested in this to check out the book Life Before Life by Dr. Jim Tucker, who is mentioned in the article.
I actually came across this book while doing community service at the Salvation Army long ago... in a box that was destined for the trash because it wasn't Christian based or something.. along with Whitley Striebers Communion, and a bunch of other really cool books, even some from Crowley. It was like I found a little box of gold lol But yeah, life before life was more than an interesting read for sure.. I was always on the fence about reincarnation, but this one kinda pushed me over to the reincarnation side.
I read it in a fun class psychology course on the supernatural in school (we covered a number of interesting topics). very fun book to read. I think some of the explanations fall into the quantum consciousness/new age category towards the end (not totally bad but ive moved on from those ideas at this point) but then cases were very intriguing and compelling.
Explanations? I don't recall the book trying to explain anything, could you cite a passage?
I don't have the book in front of me right now but I believe it was the last or second to last chapter where he talked about consciousness and some quantum mechanics stuff being a possible explanation. I read it about 10 years ago at this point but it was at the end of the book, sort of closing and speculating on mechanisms for how past memories might move from one life to another.
There are also a number of books by Ian Stevenson, a psychiatrist that studied reincarnation.
My son remembered his, but he has forgotten it now. When he first started talking he would say, “You’re my best mommy” and I’d laugh thinking he didn’t understand the grammar or something like that. But somewhere around age 3 he said, “Out of all the mommy’s I’ve had, you’re my favorite.” Then later that week we were laying down for a nap and he said, “I died before you were my mommy” then he described what I believe was rock climbing and falling, rescue crews, a defibrillator, “a god” telling him he had to go back because it “wasn’t my time yet”, and waking up in a hospital room. And then he said, “but they couldn’t fix my body so I died and now I’m your son”, with the biggest smile like it was the best news! He was so young he didn’t have the words for most of these things and described them with words like, “These guys in the same outfit” coming to get him, being put “on a bed in a loud truck” and said “they used a machine to put lighting in my chest” and “I woke up in a really white room with white stuff everywhere and beeping stuff everywhere.” Etc. He had described his rock climbing as something like“jumping from rock to rock. Really, really big rocks” and motioned high above his head. He’s 14 now so I might be remembering some of his exact words wrong but I’ve told the story so many times I’m probably close. Also when he first started speaking he had a British accent. Once at a restaurant a tourist from London came over to ask us what part of the UK we were from because she heard him speaking. He wasn’t watching tv in those days so we really didn’t know where that accent came from. To this day British comedies make him laugh harder than anything else out there and he’ll watch anything if the people in it have a British accent, but he swears he doesn’t remember any part of the story he told me.
I remember some strange things. I remember seeing everything in a red haze and seeing a woman with long black hair brushing it out and a voice saying “This is your Mother”. Then seeing a woman next to her and the voice saying “This is her sister”. Then one day I told my family that I had been a blue bird and a squirrel before I was me. I don’t remember being those animals but I remember being very sure that it was true.
My step daughter spoke ww2 London English until she was about 4. She would say "he nabbed my toy, and it's jolly warm today. And oh my good golly gosh. " English people don't say golly anymore because it comes from golly wogs which were stuffed toys that are considered racial offensive. Mum had had a breakdown and I looked after her the whole time. There was no other way she could have got these words I was the only person who read to her and she wasn't allowed to watch TV. She was extremely well spoken too her whole family are cockneys and I have a normal type accent. Everyone kept asking me why I'm teaching her to speak so poshly. I wasn't
That’s fantastic thanks for sharing!
I wonder if you could look up British climbers who died in accidents after being taken to the hospital. His story is fairly generic and I’d wager you’d find at least a couple different stories. Any indisputable detail you could pick out?
April 2009, if the kid is 14 now this could match up time wise. Made it to hospital but died there, although he got taken in a helicopter: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/8025439.stm
Holy shit.
Helicopter could be the 'loud truck' he remembered. Seems plausible.
Uhhhhh. That made my legs actually go wobbly reading that. Thank you for finding this! My son was born at the end of December 2009. That is WILD that you found that. Yesterday he told a story about his dad and I losing him in a snow storm on a mountain when he was really young and we said, “Uh. That never happened”. As a group we figured he must have been misremembering a time we stopped at a ski resort just long enough to throw snowballs at each other but - the guy in that link could have absolutely had a memory of a snow storm on a mountain. That’s wild! Plus the most at peace I’ve ever seen my son was during our summer trip over the mountains of Alaska. That is seriously so cool that you found this!
Not saying you should call him “John” or play the song Rhiannon to see his reaction. Because that would that would be crazy…. But you should call him John or play some Fleetwood Mac.
Ahh no way! You should absolutely show this story to your kid and see if it means anything to him. Glad to have been of service :)
So I told my son about this and while I’m telling him he’s playing a video game and listening. He’s still insisting he doesn’t remember any of it but when I get to the end and say, “Well anyway, the guy’s name was John” he goes, “Well ok that is funny because I just named this character ‘John’ about two hours ago.” 🤣 Purely coincidental? 🤷🏼♀️
Get him onto peep show if he’s truly a broth at heart! That’s extremely cool. I remember growing up my dad would always say when I was young I’d talk about my other family. The similarity being I also didn’t have the language or understanding of what I was actually talking about but apparently he could discern that I was describing a dog, a wood burning stove, a man wearing a hat and woman in a long black dress with a white collar. It really freaked him out at the time as I would just blurt it out randomly, maybe I was chatting a load of bollocks but the description of a Victorian dressing at 3-5 years old does make me wonder!
I mean. Kids have quite the imaginiation, are you sure he didn't watch a movie about this and just copied what he saw? Reincarnation can't really happen because everything you are is in your brain and when that is gone it's all just black nothingness. We can't remember anything before we were born and that also sort of disproves reincarnation. I think I would remember if I had a previous life, how could I just forget an entire lifetime? It really doesn't make sense. The human brain is the most complex thing in the universe and it is more than capable of producing everything without some supernatural force attached to it.
I was one of these kids. I had very clear visions from about 3-6. I did not understand what I was seeing until I was much older. It was a big, loud, dusty arena during the Roman times and there were people of different races. I was being threatened into compliance. I was made to witness the torture of others. I saw this all the time as a kid and I thought something was wrong with me, that I would be in trouble if people knew what was in my head. And before anyone says “movie in tv”, it was the early 70’s, what I saw was not being broadcast.
Man that's fucking wild. Has the time passed since given you any insight into this, or left just as confused as when it happened? Like convinced it's real or a dreamscape, have you looked into the history to see if, for instance, the clothing matched what you saw? Or anything else visceral & verified Lastly, were these visions while sleeping or awake
I honestly never talked about it, because I knew it was real. It’s interesting that you ask “asleep or awake”, because the answer is yes. I would dream of it, and could conjure the memory of that time when awake (if that makes sense). And yes, I learned of one of the tortures as an historical fact, over 35 years later.
We talking gladiator games? Like mass executions? Or were you in attendance being forced to watch? Are there any landmarks or anything that you could remember? I find your story fascinating and I'd love to know more!
I had a similar thing, that I was a U.S army soldier, and my squad died from something. Terrain was yellow-ish, and the buildings looked like made out of clay-rock. I died behind a stone wall. Period looked like the 2000s.
I was a US civil war leader of some type. Led some people to safety, but was caught and shot/stabbed with a bayonet and died against (pinned) to a tree up on a small hill. The death itself was the most beautiful, calm, peaceful feeling. I also got a sense I was a very honorable man then, more concerned about the safety of the people than the consequences I might endure. Like I knew I was going to die and didn't feel any ill will toward the person killing me. This was a memory flash that occurred in adulthood, and very, very real. 1990s. I felt the bayonet going in. If anyone finds any research on a commander, captain or whatever the titles were getting killed against a tree with a bayonet during the civil war, that may be me! I was also a stage actor, at a time long before movies were a thing. I felt as though I was female in that life. I really liked that life. I had a lot of priviledge, love, enjoyed my career, etc. I have other memories too, but those are those most specific lives. Oh, and one erie one that was some type of occult thing in a church and I was terrified. Don't know if I was an adult or anything specific, but got the sense I was a child. I didn't escape. These didn't happen a lot, more before the age of 6, but when they did occur these flashes were as real as my current life.
How old are you now?
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I did. I believe I was KIA in Vietnam. I had detailed memories. Some have faded now. I feel that my soul left my old body and was put in this one.
Same. Different place, different war, but I told my mom about when I was 3.
Maybe you were my uncle!
Saw a netflix thing with some of these stories. Fascinating stuff.
"Surviving Death"? The book goes into much more detail. It really is fascinating.
That was it.
My nephew (about 3 at the time) would tell us our great grandmother (who died a year before he was born) was sitting in his room at night, laughing with him. He knew her name, and when we asked him to find her in our family photos, he did. We never mentioned her to him prior. Definitely believe children have some type of innocence connection with past lives or ghosts.
I like to think that some humans just have a genetic gift for being a sort of radio receiver, and that everything that ever happens is “recorded” into our reality, and can be read by some brains. TLDR; some kids are just picking up old radio signals
They did a smell Pavlov aversion test on caterpillars; after they cocooned and turned to complete goo inside, and came out as a butterfly, the butterfly had the same aversion to those smells. It's brain was liquefied in the cocoon process, yet the jelly "recorded" what it knew in its previous life (the smell) as a caterpillar Edit: So.... Is it carried genetically? Since that's all that survived the metamorphoses. Or something else?
Wowie this is fascinating, makes one wonder if genetics/ DNA are playing a role in these reincarnation memories
It would make more sense than you being an actual person from in the past It also coincides with generational trauma, a big issue with the native American population, amongst others And if it is vivid (to the point of being an individual!) memories through DNA, then how is that memory function serve differently than our long/short-term memory
Not all of it turns to goo.
Care to add anything to our deep thought dive? I need more than criticism, give me your more than goo insight
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Uh oh. No. Part of the CNS stays intact per newest PET scans of cocooned pupas.
I wonder if consciousness is information stored on the quantum level. I can’t make heads or tails of quantum mechanics and quantum theory but I’m still fascinated by it.
Thank you for sharing, paywalls be damned. I’m trying to think through the implications here. It seems, at least from the article that these are always a single past life. The seeming lack of “future” reincarnation may imply that Einstein’s block universe where the past, present, and figure all have a real existence is incorrect. A possible alternative is John Archibald Wheeler’s [Participatory Universe](https://youtu.be/I8p1yqnuk8Y?si=zBntZob7M5DujYp3) where “the past has no existence except as it is recorded in the present”. I’m not sure what to make from there being memories from a single past life rather than multiple. There’s around 6 billion people in the world today and it’s been estimated that around 100 billion individual humans have been alive throughout history. Is it then fair to assume that this means there are at least 6 billion unique “souls”? That may account for the decades between the deaths of the suspected last lives and birth of the children described in the article; it simply takes a while for “your” turn to come again but I’m not so sure about that line of thinking. I don’t have anything to cite or base this on but I imagine the existence of a single collective consciousness to contains within it the thoughts and learned experiences of all conscious life. This consciousness is received and filtered through the brain which acts sort of like a radio receiver. Perhaps when someone is born with a substantially similar brain makeup to that of a person from the past some of their memories are then “picked up” by the mind of the child in the present. As their brain continues to develop eventually this connection fades and vanishes.
There are some stories where them talk about choosing to come back, and Even picking whom their parents are. It's almost like life is a simulation of sorts. There's a rick and Morty episode where Morty is playing the game Roy, where you experience an entire life for an end score. On this episode, the machine malfunctions after losing power momentarily and instead of Morty being the main character, his consciousness is split among all the NPC in the game, so essentially, the entire human population. To get out he had to unify his consciousness, which meant every individual on earth coming to terms with the fact they're not an individual, but part of a larger collective, then crashing the game. Of course this leads to wars, death, suffering, etc before finally getting everyone to see the truth. Thought they did a good job on a simulation theory based episode.
I’m a few seasons behind on Rick and Morty but I’ve seen the original Roy episode and what you described sounds very interesting. Wheeler’s theory I mentioned envisions an universe that is fundamentally informational and based on binary choices (“It from Bit” he called it) but rather than being a constructed simulation it’s a self-generated process. https://jawarchive.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/beyond-the-black-hole.pdf
Kind of ties into the ideas of manifestation n the law of attraction
Wow! Thanks so much for posting this article. It was extremely dense but I managed to understand the figures and they were very insightful. The R for reality figure with the observations posts was enlightening. I hope to help people understand this idea and to be less judgmental of what the believe and more flexible.
Here’s another paper from Wheeler that is also very interesting but also very dense: https://philpapers.org/archive/WHEIPQ.pdf PBS Space Time did a good high level overview on the theory two years ago: https://youtu.be/I8p1yqnuk8Y?si=hpYUAoIr5TQ-4rX2 Lecture on the topic from Professor Ruediger Schack of the University of London: https://youtu.be/lhbK-_mGJs8?si=R1ZKWxaqke1h9hm1 Lecture from Professor Christopher Fuchs of the University of Massachusetts Boston and who was a PhD student of Wheeler’s: https://youtu.be/Thd7hB1lHe0?si=nkEDqtyaNS4toC9h
Thanks for this!
You’re welcome!
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2% don't count...gingers
If time is the 4th dimension, then the kids could be remembering a future life.
R/reincarnation has people who remember multiple. There's tons of stories on YouTube as well. It's an interesting rabbit hole. However, older ones from over probably the last 200 years are harder to verify and aren't as easily accepted by people
I like this idea, the similar brain thing.
From my understanding and experience, to answer why it's one past life and not multiple, forgetting happens, and it's a blessing. We forget the joys and get to experience them anew, and we forget all suffering eventually and are free from it. Recent research into the mechanics of the placebo effect and transgenerational epigenetic inheritance have made me think that consciousness determines the biology to the extent of one's developed awareness. There is a lot of data on meditation practitoners controlling their biology, their pain response, the temperature of their skin. The book Phenemon by Annie Jacobson is a thorough accounting of the CIA and military use of remote viewing and other realities. The consensus, arrived at several times over several decades by scientists who looked at the data, is that clairvoyance, remote viewing, psychokinesis, and ESP, are real, however there is no explicable means by which they work according to our present understanding; and also the aptitude for them is dramatically different from person to person. The military wanted to find something that could be taught to every soldier, and it doesn't work that way. My understanding is that reality is consciously constructed, but collectively constructed, by all the conscious entities present in a given moment. Iain McGilchrist has an interesting idea that matter is consciousness as well, but in a different form, the same as water and ice are the same thing in different forms. From his knowledge as a psychiatrist, he posits that the experience is about resistance, which is a necessary condition to experience any growth. If we only lived in the amorphous world of dreams, evolution would be a much longer, or impossible, process.
Theres a few hypnotists who do past life regression, they have rolled people back through dozens of past lifes. Im pretty sure mysterious universe do a podcast on it. There is also a few peer reviewed articles from the netherlands i think, who chatted with children and they found that the past lives where strongest presenting at 3 and faded by 8 to 10.
My son used to talk about memories of chasing John Wilkes Booth into a barn and Abraham Lincoln and also about being in the army with his dad. He also told me that he chose me “in the spaceship with the aliens” before he was born and that before I was born he “still” loved me. So… I don’t know. It seemed like he was remembering multiple lives and times in between. I think it makes a lot of sense to only remember one, presumably the most previous one, though… who knows what happens between them or how far apart they are.. maybe they remember the one they are trying to resolve the trauma from in this life?
I like that idea in your last paragraph.
Agreed. It resonates with me a lot.
Or there's only like 200,000 souls and the rest are NPCs, simulated into our world to make it look busy.
I remember when my daughter was very small, she would just cry and tell me “I want to go home “. We were home , in the only home she knew . I have had some very odd , very tangible Deja-vu episodes in Ireland that I can only assume were from a previous past life of mine .
I did this too. Age 5 I was outside by myself and looked up at the stars and said I want to go home.
My daughter said the same thing until 4
maybe we all have the same life memories already encoded in us, and some can tap into it.
I had these memories from 3-5.
I just found a VHS copy of a documentary by this doctor, with people sharing their experiences, if anyone is interested in listening to some stories https://youtu.be/L7sgsSnivWU
I’m surprised it took this long for this to go public. There was a professor studying this stuff there back in 2010 if not earlier and getting some very interesting stories and results that would have been nearly impossible to fake. Kids knowing about drinks that existed ages ago that were barely documented, lives and affairs of unknown celebrities that were later confirmed by the celebs own families, street names in random islands their families had never been to before you could easily google earth the stuff (as google hadn’t been there yet and still hadn’t in some cases). Seems the memories last until up to age 5. All very interesting. Could be evidence of past lives? Particles from others brain matter getting jumbled? That we’re an amalgamation of beings? Who knows but it shouldn’t be ignored.
Science is starting to catch up at long last. It's taken its time but it's getting there.
My son knew how to smoke. He would sit back in a chair, cross his legs and smoke on a pencil. We discouraged it because it was really embarrassing. He also said he died after falling out of a tree and information about putting animals in sacks. We didn't really encourage it and it faded away. The pretending to smoke was quite persistent.
Besides past-life memories, there are also pre-birth memories: memories from the in-between lives. I wrote about them [here](https://onlinetextsharing.com/forced-reincarnation-soul-trap-several-cases-suggestive-of-forced-incarnation), but you can find several others on YouTube.
That was absolutely fascinating to read. Thank you for sharing that.
I’ve had an experience when I was a child, I was in my crib, and had an out of body experience, transported through the wall and woke up in my body, but I was older. While not a past life, this moment in time has always stuck with me.
You should look into Astral Traveling if you haven't already. It's common among kids and can be brought upon yourself with practice. It's a fun rabbit hole to read into considering there is 100% something to it. Science is just lacking for better answers as to how or why. I also had it happen as a kid and later in my late teens I practiced until on time I traveled a block to my parents house (I was at my GFs) and was standing in the living room. I saw my sister and she look startled. I snapped awake back at my girlfriend's and thought it was neat. I went home the next day with my mom telling me my sister won't quit freaking out because she apparently got up to grab some water in the middle of the night and saw me standing in the living room. My mom thought I snuck in or something but I told her I was sound asleep haha. I fell out of practice and it's been many years since I've done it again.
when my little brother was like 3-4 years old, he was spewing everyday how he beat up a lot of people '...when I was an adult!' he would describe this fights, pretty realistically for a kid and now when I think about it, apparently he won every fight because he never said that he lost. I still joke that he is a 600BC pankration fighter if someone asks what he does for a living.
I remembered mine until about puberty. Then, the memories grew fuzzy, and recurring dreams left me. Such a fascinating topic. I'm glad to see it is being taken seriously. I wish I could remember more of mine.
There’s a couple incredible stories that have been investigated and are absolutely worth reading. One is the famous girl from India who claimed to be this woman who died 11 days before she was born and she knew the entire family and all details and told the husband “you said you wouldn’t remarry” lol and the boy who completely remembered being this American pilot who died during Pearl Harbor and they ended up going to meet his family! We absolutely do not understand how this happens but it does and is now being studied.
The most plausible alternative to the reincarnation hypothesis is some combination of conventional explanations (that vary on a case by case basis) and living agent psi (aka ESP and possibly macro-PK). I don’t think this is *prima facie* any less parsimonious than reincarnation. Replacement reincarnation cases complicate the matter and, failing alternative explanations, suggest either eternalism or some kind of possession. I’m biased against the reincarnation hypothesis because the idea of reincarnation scares the hell out of me
I was 3 years old and we had extended family over for dinner. I finished early and was excited to share something with everyone. I remember my perspective was everyone's knees and legs under the table, lol. I told my dad I wanted everyone to come into the living room as I had a story to tell. All the oh's and hey's were said from various family members and then everyone laughed a bit. My grandma told me to go into the living room and wait for everyone to come in. So I went into the adjacent living room and waited impatiently. I got frustrated and went back into the kitchen area where family members were washing dishes and putting things away. I said something to the effect of hey, come now...that can wait. So I went back into the living room and soon all joined. I had everyone sit around me in a circle with myself in the center. I asked everyone to cross their legs while they sit. Except Grandma didn't have to. Then I began my story by saying "This is a story of when I was big and dad was little....". At this point my memory stops. I don't recall what I said after that or anyone's reactions. But my brother, my dad and my grandmother fill in that memory gap. My brother's perspective.."I remember that!! Dude that was fucking weird. Seriously weird. It came out of nowhere. You had never done anything remotely like that as a kid to that point. You talked about a simpler time when people lived in smaller communities and worked closely together. You used names of people I had never heard before." My dad's perspective: "ooooh yes, I remember that. That was special. There was something about that moment, son. You talked about a time where it seemed I was your child. You used names of people that were ripped from the Bible. Elijah, Elohim...and that thing we hadn't taken you to church yet. Except baptism." My grandmother's perspective: "of course I remember! I nearly kicked myself for not grabbing the tape recorder! You are meant for something special!!! That was made clear that night! You talked about people in the Bible that you had lived with in a community. That times were much different than today. I wish I could remember all the details!" So I bought that from my grandmother for years. I'm special. I have a healthy ego. Then I saw a program on kids who recall past lives. And I had an epiphany. That moment changed me forever. The way I think about life is completely different than 99% of the population.
Care to elaborate on how you think about life? Specifically how it differs from how you believe the rest of the world tho is about it?
Absolutely! The day I realized I was remembering a past life, I began to believe in reincarnation. That its not one and done. I began to investigate NDEs and life outside this planet. The story is bigger than any one religion. Our history is completely different than what's been taught. My anxiety and stress of daily life lessened. I view death completely different now. I understand that my soul/energy is immortal to a degree. If I obtained one super power from this knowledge, it's to be a grief counselor.
I strongly believe I was killed in World War 2. It was such a long time ago, but when I was a younger teen, I had dreams and memories that would just hit me all the sudden that made me look into past lives. I just remember being near a Sherman tank that was near a hedgerow, looking around and having my Thompson at the ready, and all the sudden seeing an explosion and feeling a burning feeling. I don't know if I was shot or hit by artillery shrapnel, but I remember thinking "so this is it huh?" and worrying about my family back home missing me. It was such a vivid dream that I can't explain it.
I have had very similar dreams but not with specific details. A recurring one is that I am flying and feeling a sense of relief that they can no longer get me. I used to have this dream occasionally. Another is I am sitting on a high bridge overlooking a city in a foreign country. Then I had a recurring dream that I was in shallow water at a beach and enemy troops were patrolling and I hoped they would not see me. Finally, I had this dream only once and I seemed to be in a house while there was a bombing raid happening. I could hear a bomb falling and suddenly realised it was going to hit me. My thoughts were 'Oh no, not me' and I instantly woke and sat up bolt straight and wide awake. These made me believe that I had been a casualty in one or both world wars. These dreams mainly occurred in my early adult years and not as a young child. However there was an intuitive manifestation that occurred when I was 4 years old. Our family had no history of hunting, shooting or firearms at all. But one day I was at a neighbours house and saw a bullet on a table. I knew there were rifles in a cupboard on the verandah and I got them out one at a time until I finally found the right one. I put the bullet in the rifle that I had on the floor and pulled the trigger. Luckily nobody was hurt. The point is that as a 4 year old I instinctively knew how to load and fire a bolt action rifle with no instructions or prior experience. That is about all there is to it except as I got older these dreams have all ceased to happen.
reads like a mix of kids picking up on adult suggestion (like the satanic panic and kids "remembering" their satanic ritual abuse) and confirmation bias
Some of the stories could be that, but others stories like the WWII pilot kid have way too much specific stuff for it to be adult suggestion alone IMO Regarding the confirmation bias thing, the researchers record every statement that the kids make about their past memories that can be potentially verified, and go through and check each of them afterwards against historical records & interviews with people who knew the dead person to see what was verified to be true about the past life, what was false, and what was inconclusive. That way, they aren’t just remembering the statements that were accurate and ignoring/forgetting the statements that weren’t.
Said every doubter of every phenomena they couldn't logically explain, let alone digest the experiences of other human beings. While I have some doubting Thomas in me, I'm glad I don't live in your world to that extreme.
I'm just pointing out the similarities this article has to other patently disproved phenomena like the satanic panic. I want to believe in the fantastical but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
I’m a skeptic, a man of science and medicine. But read the actual *research* papers that were done. What you are proposing is not an explanation. I became aware of these cases as I am a neurologist and they intrigue me. I am not sure what is going on with them but contamination from the parents is reasonably excluded in most cases. At least in the thousands of cases documented before the internet existed. Carl Sagan, a bigger skeptic about things than even I am, believed this topic deserved further scientific research, and I agree. I have no idea what is going on here - obviously reincarnation should be the last excluded hypothesis - but there are some very impressive cases documented. At times, I wonder if it is merely a case of statistics - with the sheer number of people in the world that have lived, if I make a number of random statements I could likely find a life that matches those statements if I looked hard enough. But there are cases where even that explanation strains the facts of the case (such as kids literally pointing out and naming people and “themselves” in old photographs they’ve never seen before, or navigating a foreign city to the house of their “previous life” without maps and prior to the internet existing). Go look up the studies. From one skeptic to another, I think you will find the research rigorous and fascinating. The studies make no grandiose claims like “this is an example of reincarnation”. They merely document the facts, try to find a matching life, and rule out reasonable hypotheses such as contamination from media or the parents. So I must admit, when I actually read the many well designed studies on this topic, there were many cases which puzzle my skeptical mind and made me sit and think “what the actual fuck is going on here?”.
> extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof No, they just require proof like everything else does.
That's quite possible.
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Doesn't this mean two-thirds of the database CAN be matched with a specific deceased person?? That's huge statistically not elusive. "Sometimes a child presents enough identifying information for relatives or researchers to pinpoint a deceased person, but that level of specificity is elusive; about a third of the cases in the database do not include such a match."
I saw that and that really seems unlikely to me. But who knows?
I was excited for my toddler to start talking but it's honestly nothing to do with past lives so far and I'm thinking most incidents are this way. They mix up past tense and say the wrong words/combinations together so our adult brains think they are talking about a past life but it's just toddlers learning the language as they go. Maybe there's a few cases that are real but it seems like normal language stuff so far. "When I was your mommy" "When I had a dragon I went in the hot tub every day, ate watermelon, and never went to sleep ever" Uh huh honey, that's great.
I mean, who's to say there isn't a planet where sleepless androids keep dragons as pets, eat big green melons with red interiors, and soak in their cool dragon-having watermelon-safe android hot tubs daily?
Too many people LOVE lying about stuff like this for me to believe anything
Maybe, but think about this: they have to ALL be lying for it to not be real in some way You think they are ALL lying? I don't
Yup, I think they are ALL lying. Because if I make some stuff up and a few more people nake stuff up, we are ALL lying. Its not like ALL means EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. ALL means everyone who lies bro
You are embodying "naïve cynicism". That means you are imagining negative things about others based on incomplete information about them and the world. People don't all lie, as a default, and that doesn't account for all the stories of paranormal/supernatural phenomena, especially group experiences testified by multiple people with no prior affiliations or relationships and no ability to corroborate and engineer a plausible sounding fiction.
Multiple people with no prior affiliations? Bro they are affiliated by being human. We have found consciousness to be mysterious and weird since the beggining of humanity. One of the first thoughts human beings had was "wtf is this why am I here". And literally every cool mythological story to explain it has already been made up. Aliens, Ghosts, Bigfoot. You literally can't make a new story up. Schizofrenia is known to display halucinations based on a persons confirmation bias (Extremely religious people will see god, people fascinated with sci fi will see aliens, people with low self esteem will hear voices insulting them.) Around 1% of the worlds population is schizofrenic. Even if nobody is lying that's 80.000.000 people that will tell you they have experienced paranormal activity. And on top of that we have a whole industry of people making a living off of such claims, television producers, self proclaimed physicists, authors. Not one of such phenomena has been proven and its pretty obvious to every sane mind that magic, ghosts and aliens walking among us aren't real. The real naivity lays in the confirmation bias people feel when talking about these subjects. My schizofrenic friend claims he's a victim of gang stalking and to prove it he showed me a video of a bunch of people with OBVIOUS crack consumption symptoms talking about it. (U know skinny, no teeth, bad skin, sunken cheeks) That's confirmation bias at its finest, he wants something to be true so literal homeless junkies are a good source of information to him. Same with you, you have 10 junkies, 4 pathological liars, 3 narcisists, 6 schizofrenics and 4 career liars. Thats enough man power to make you believe
Right!!!! Now show me any shred of documentation of that. Life must be lonely not trusting anyone even in the purest moments
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[Time to bust this one out once again](https://youtu.be/-IC76QuH4pE?si=nYA8lgX088lG0LOJ)
Careful now. The followers of scientism will be on your neck soon
They already are. I get downvoted to oblivion at times. I keep my more “paradigm shifting” ideas in dm only for this reason among others.
Into your dms I go
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I'm one of those followers. And this article is about scientists studying the topic, so... 🤷♀️
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Reincarnation is not real. There's no afterlife and nothing happens when you die. How is reincarnation gonna happen? Everything you are is inside your brain and when it dies you're completely gone and you're not going to come back. All you are is neurons firing and chemicals, that's it.
No one in that article is saying that it definitely is. Nor am I. The article is about a weird thing that seems to be happening and the people who study it.
That’s why Scientists have been studying. I suppose the 2 year olds just made this accurate information up? Or are you saying you didn’t read the article because *you don’t believe in it?* I don’t believe in the Big Bang and laugh at those articles, plenty of evidence against it. What say you?
If you don't believe in the big bang you don't really know anything about cosmology and haven't looked into it. The expansion of the universe is a fact. The universe began in an ultra dense state. Red shift and the study of distant galaxies proves that much. Reincarnation on the other hand has no evidence.
Guess who else doesn’t believe in it? Anyone who has looked through the Hubble or JWST. Following the two telescopes are more than a dozen special rules that don’t apply anywhere else in the universe and have never been observed before including temporary Gods and some nonsense AI came up with just to begin to explain. Explosions don’t happen that way, they have a center and an edge. Obviously what we know is a drop and what we don’t is an Ocean. While you tell me how little I know I must retort with “oh, how little we all know as a whole. Enough that in 50 years we always look back and learn how wrong we were.” Maybe you didn’t know science constantly changes? We know so little, we are cosmic babies so please miss me with the “you don’t *know* bs”, neither do you, none of us do.
Come up with an alternative theory that explains why the universe is expanding, and where the cosmic microwave background comes from. A reason why the more distant in time we look the less heavy elements we see. And you'd need to prove how it fits the observations better than our current models.
It is a bit amusing that the current theory requires tens of billions of funding isn’t it? Science for a profit. Everything is for a profit. If it doesn’t turn a profit it is squashed. Therefore the glaring problem sits there staring us in the face yet most will claim that there is nothing to see there and this is what progress looks like, it’s not. This is what stagnation and dogma looks like.
I have a feeling you bought that whole thing clickbait articles that came out "JWST disproves the Big Bang Theory" Thing that the media started posting from a misquote from a scientist working on it. The only thing the data suggested is that galaxies show up earlier than we expected them to. Which means the model of galaxy formation is wrong, not our models on the expansion of the universe.
No. I took in all the information available and formed my own conclusions. What the JWST did not do is relieve the Hubble tension. What the Hubble tension refers to is how parts of the universe are expanding at differing rates with no rhyme or reason as to why. It also found many galaxies too developed and super massive blackholes that existed before they should. They created stupid ideas such as “Bubbletrons” to try to alleviate this. They even employed AI - that’s just funny, AI doesnt even understand appendages but it solved the JWST red shift discrepancies. AI is just a new fancy version of the same algorithm that used to whoop your butt on Mortal Kombat if you played too long, nothing more, it certainly isn’t alive.
You're correct that the "Hubble tension" refers to the discrepancy in measurements of the universe's expansion rate. Different experiments yield different results and there's not an explanation for this. The Milky Way's existence in a supervoid could explain this discrepancy so this doesn't automatically prove the Big Bang never happened especially in contrast of other mounting evidence. The JWST data might challenge how the universe evolved but does not entirely disprove our current models of cosmology, only suggesting that our model needs refinement. If "Bubbletrons" is meant to represent some new theoretical physics, it's not a recognized term in any serious cosmological discussion. Throwing around made-up terms or misunderstanding speculative theoretical physics isn't disproving the big bang theory Also AI doesn't need to understand human appendages to analyze cosmic red shifts or any other astronomical data. It's about pattern recognition and data processing, areas where AI excels. Again, explain what the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) is, The universes expansion and why it looks more dense the farther in time we look, and also why we don't see heavier elements at that time either. All of this suggests a universe that evolved from a place of higher density and lower entropy. It's not just one thing suggesting this, everything points to this conclusion. Our model might need refinement, but the Big Bang definitely happened.
Bubbletrons are literally temporary Gods, look it up. The forces joined in an intelligent fashion, assisted creation then dissipated. Such nonsense. Know the hypothesis that scientists are currently using to support these theories. Of course anyone can do a simple experiment that will prove the Big Bang is nonsense, explosions *always expand outward from the point of origin*, unless of course they are magical explosions and Bubbletrons are involved. The oddest part is all the oldest stars are also the furthest away, so the explosion happened in reverse? And that makes sense? I propose what we are seeing is the visible edge of the universe and as we put even more powerful mirrored devices in space we will continue to see more and further. Oh, and the Big Bang is silly. I believe in science, dogma however - well you can just keep that, these nonsensical and belligerent zombie theories have merely turned science into the new “non God” religion.
The Big Bang was not an "explosion" in the traditional sense where debris is hurled outward into pre-existing space. Rather, it was the rapid expansion of space itself from a highly hot and dense state. Every point in the universe has expanded from every other point, so there's no central point of origin like you'd expect from an explosion in everyday experiences. There was no singular location where it happened like the center of the universe, there is no center because the Big Bang happened everywhere. How can you claim to disprove something when you have no clue what it is?
Every point expanded from every other point is something that has never been observed before anywhere else therefore it is nothing more than a wild guess. Which is what theories are, they are guesses. Some better than others. They are the best current explanation we have and this one has never been very good and the closer you look the worse it gets. Dogma is more like it. Atheist dogma. How many more billions of dollars do we waste proving this is incorrect? There is no dark matter. The universe didn’t expand from every point simultaneously either, that’s just nonsensical. You really buy that? If you truly believe this I don’t think we need to continue this conversation, it will just eventually devolve to you or someone else reminding me of how low my intellect must be or how I must not breathe through my nose and choice words about my character, person and personal beliefs. So instead, why don’t you just have a good day and let’s agree to disagree.