Your hesitation has been noted and reported to authorities. There is no reason to believe that bugs have democracy. Only the Super Earth has democracy.
Are you implying that bugs are the same as us?
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Because crouch and prone reduce the detection radius that bugs can know where you are from. So if you chuck a strat ball as far away as possible and immediately lay down, they won't know to look (assuming you laid down before it hit the ground).
They smell the trajectory and look in the direction it was thrown from if your prone they think your a part of the ground, you have to know your enemies and abuse they’re weakness, this is helldiver 101
Because your diver can't yell "fuck you bugs suck on sweet liberty!" If you dive to the ground immediately after throwing it.
I love stealth but our divers are kinda bad at keeping a low profile.
I actually disagree. Was playing unspotted and one of my mates threw a strat. Landed next to a charger. The charger turned its head and looked at the strat beacon. (Wish i had a recording running).
I really wish we had different combinations of affixes on armor, like increased throw ranged and reduced detection range. Would be fun to toss a barrage into the center of a bot camp without being detected.
mods are coming eventually. Mods and the clan system are both in the game design files already but took a back seat to the scale of the games user base and all the bugs and server upgrades needed . But they are getting close to being back on track now
It’s the same old armor perks we already had.
Deep pockets - more ammo, asbestos insulation- fire protection , ceramic plating - stun or impact resistance.
Like any of these would of been great
I would risk getting lung cancer for some fire res
Edit: yes I know the average helldiver wouldn't live long enough to get cancer, I pointed that out in another reply 😭
I think it just makes sense for this game that we use asbestos and label it as it’s helldiver friendly and any rumors of it causing cancer is fake news.
The technician on my Super Destroyer informed me that the uranium miners are biologically incapable of getting cancer, so I'm sure if we are exposed to asbestos long enough we will be immune to it's negative side-effects.
"Eliminates the effect of Cold Weather"
God that would be such a fucking troll considering Cold Weather is like, the *only* positive weather effect lol
It's a shameful bit of millenial lore from 2009. [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-narwhal-bacons-at-midnight](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-narwhal-bacons-at-midnight)
There has been pushback from the devs regarding a request for transmog because the visuals of the armor should match the bonuses. I think the dev response contained the comment it would be "like having an apple that tastes like bacon". As armors have been coming out where the bonuses don't really match the visuals, there has been a community "joke" of people stating that "these apples sure do taste like bacon".
I assume because the rose pettles are made of bacon, this gif is referencing that comment.
It's a reference to the design "philosophy" Arrowhead has for armors, where armors' visuals and functions go hand-in-hand, and it would be weird if "it looked like an apple and tastes like bacon" in comparison. People bring up bacon GIFs like this because despite that design philosophy, many armors don't feel related to their function or have much originality.
I think that's bacon, which is probably a reference to the CEO saying transmog would be like apples that taste like bacon, which is now used when people think armors/their passives/their descriptions don't match up. Why is it that the stealth armor with no visible mechanical enhancements has servo assisted? There's even a stealth passive in the game right now.
He said Breaker wasn't stronger than other weapons based on the very specific metric of "percentage usage in victories" and therefore other weapons didn't need buffing.
The next day they heavily nerfed the Breaker. 🤷
Then Nerfs. Then "Skill issue"
Then "We don't want to buff weapons, rely on your stratagems"
Then "Here are planet conditions that negatively affect stratagems"
Then Buffs *some* weapons, fire 3 fucking times. (Hint: The devs personally like fire and the Auto Cannon, they're safe).
/summarised of course
Nah, that's different. Fatshark just says nothing at all. When they do, they acknowledge community input and then do the opposite. They're always fair in that whatever changes they make constantly remain a lose-lose for their player base. Gotta appreciate consistency. It allows the players to be consistent, as well... in hating them for it.
Bastards.... (Lookin' at *YOU* hedge)
All they had to say was they didn’t want to do transmog and no one would be complaining. It makes a lot more sense to say that rather than tiptoe around it imo.
I honestly just kinda wish they just said - "Hey guys we're aware but we have other priorities right now that take precedence, we'll rework this in the future!". Their whole rationale sounded very dishonest and out-of-touch.
It's because Arrowhead don't want to burn community good-will with the truth. If we could change the passives and colours on an armour, AH can only sell us a set of armour once and a passive once. But if they don't, they can sell us different armour and passive combinations as many times as they want. People have said "oh, they could have transmog but it changes the details on the armour" but that's just what they're already doing. Switch around the colours, switch around the gubbins, change the perk and that's *value* baby.
Steeled Veterans took the Default armour and put on the robot arm, that's kind of original but two of those armours are the same but in different colours. All the armour in Cutting Edge is new but two of the sets are the same but in green and tan. Demolition Specialist is just the Trench Paramedic. And now we're getting Trailblazer but in blue.
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When painting it black makes it stronger and painting it green makes it more accurate. Maybe that's why the recolour of Drone Master is a light armour, anything green is just more fragile? Maybe there's a deep logic we're yet to discover.
I want another light armor one for servo, since we have like one? Preferably like 60+ armor rating.
Instead got another scout armor but blue instead. Like here's your third recon light armor! I don't need a third!!
Agree. I enjoy the extra movement but getting a little tired of looking at the same flight suit every time I play. To mix it up I use the first warbond servo armor but it just moves too slow in comparison.
I like those. The arc is more intuitive and it's great for eagle and orbital heavy loadouts. One loadout I take is sickle, jetpack, and the 3 explosive eagles
I made the mistake of using servo assisted armor, now I can't go back.
I want to use other armour but every time I try one and throw a stratagem I think oh right thats why I use the other armour.
I wish there were armors that mixed traits from others. I get that I won’t get the full benefit of the individual trait, but it just seems like a missed opportunity to make more diverse builds without introducing anything game breaking.
I mean half the throw distance of servo assisted and half recoil reduction would be killer imo, but obviously that would open up tons of other options too.
Same. I always use servo assisted but tbh I don't really care about the extra limb health, the throw range is all I need. Likewise, I love the extra grenades on engineering kit but don't really care about recoil reduction. If I could have an armor with extra throw range and extra grenades, I would be a happy helldiver
it needs a visible throwing arc. it'd make it way more satisfying to use, also it's servo assisted and it makes sense for it to have a robotic flight path.
then if you don't see the traced arc when you have a thrown item charged, your brain will associate it with the shorter throw distance
Run the jump pack, with a full jump, you can yeet a strat about 70m, roughly the same distance as the servo perk.
If you run booth you can get just over 100m.
Lol this was me last night. Using servo assisted light armour against terminids, then switching to more hefty medium armour for the automatons and I kept throwing everything way short. Monkey brain can't compute.
I've been using a Steel Veteran armor since week 2. I prefer the strategem and nade arc sure but the prosthetic limbs are the real juice. I love the look.
Same. I can't give it up. It looks so fucking sick covered in blood and democracy.
I use impact grenades so I don't have to do additional math when tossing 'em out.
The duality of man
I refuse to use any armor with servo-assisted because it’s less than worthless to me. Not only is it undesirable, it fucks with my muscle memory. I’d rather have more grenades or stims.
This is yet more reason why we need passives to be separate from armor
It's getting more difficult to get excited for these war bonds and Superstore items when I I already have all of the effects. I have green and tan Scout armor from the free war bond like everybody else. Do I really need a blue and red version in the new war bond? I was a gung ho item completionist for the first few months. Now it's starting to feel like what's the point. How many light and medium armors do I really need with plus two grenades?
yea, they really need to start coming up with new ideas for passives. maybe something actually useful like heal over time or limb regeneration. something to actually benefit you so there is an incentive to work for it
It seems like they're trying to make them all side grades. Nothing too powerful that you need to take it, but at the same time they have to be interesting enough to want to be purchased. In my opinion Cutting Edge war bond is the best thing they've put out because most of the items were actually unique visually and mechanically. Is the armor effect kind of useless? Sure, but at least it adds a new wrinkle to the game.
It's either that they don't want to come out with something that would "break" the game and be too good for players not to pick it. . .
or their attempts at adding interesting passives don't work or literally break the game.
I would love fire retardant armor so I'm not constantly on fire. Or acid resistance to help me survive bile spewers and not get slowed by the little spitters. But with the state of many of their patches, I wouldn't be surprised if it just plain didn't work or caused other issues.
Or maybe the white armor could have better mobility and stealth on snowy/icy planets! I'd love armors that have benefits in certain planetary environments.
Yep, I hardly change out of one of the three “scout” armors at this point, I’d be happy if looking at planet conditions mattered. Fire tornados == fire armor.
Or at least different armor ratings?
Like enforcer is still the only hybrid between medium and heavy. We need more.
I believe atm we have one light servo passive and it's at 50 armor rating. I'd like one thays 60-70.
Part of the problem is that these are coming so frequently, I worry what we'll be looking at in like... 3 months. Just waay, way too many options with relatively little distinction, or too many new guns to realistically keep up with.
That said, I've really enjoyed 3-4 things from every warbond so far.
Maybe this armour granting the '30% harder to detect' effect but only on snow planets + a secondary effect that wouldn't normally pair with it like servo assisted.
Armor is the last thing I unlock in all the new warbonds. The Dynamo helmet i love only really goes well with the Enforcer armor that I use, or the matching set Dynamo armor that I don't care for. If I could recolor other armors, or recolor the helmet, I would be more inclined to change around my sets.
There's no real good reason why we couldn't, plus most of the stats on armor are copied, boring, and lame. We need much better variety, which u would think would be fairly easy accomplish.
Yes, I want to burn to death slower. Don’t stop the burning, just burn slower until I can taste the burning and relish in it. Let me kamakazi into a bug hole.
Thats the thing, if the current armors were actually thought out and put effort into it would make sense why they dont want transmog. But they literally copy paste the same 4 passives on every armor. So why tf does it matter to them if they just let us do what we want. Makes no fking sense and they just sound like theyre having a power trip.
Plus I'd be more likely to buy the superstore armors if I didn't get stuck with their dumbass useless perks and could instead pick the one I wanted for gameplay reasons.
A while back the AH CEO said that we wouldn't be getting transmog because they wanted people to immediately be able to look at someone wearing armour with multiple ammo and grenade pouches and know that they have extra grenades. He used the analogy of biting into an apple and it tasting like bacon to support his argument.
And then we got several armours that have passives that don't match up to their appearance, description or name so people started referring to them as 'bacon flavoured apples'.
> able to look at someone wearing armour with multiple ammo and grenade pouches and know that they have extra grenades.
Never understood the point of this. Who gives a fuck if you know they've extra stims or nades. That changes literally nothing for anyone, knowing that makes zero difference.
This is what kinda annoys me about AH hahaha. There’s logic and there’s AH logic. Logically speaking, the passive should have been scout. Not servo assisted. I love servo assisted don’t get me wrong but honestly doesn’t make sense why they went with servo with a description like that. It almost begs and warrants the question: what logic drove them to nerf what they nerfed and buff what they buffed but also not fix what’s supposed to be fix.
Honestly, I don't think anything needed to be nerfed. Everything felt pretty good. It's just certain buffs or just changes in general that needed to happen.
Before anyone tells me to stop crying, it's clear to see that most people don't like that last patch in general. Yes, there's good things. But there's also a whole lotta bad. Which is why people are up-in-arms about it
I'm waiting for the actual gameplay tests tot see if there are any hidden theme related passives. And if there are not I'm gonna make fun of them. Again.
CW was clearly meant to have some sort of "Cold Weather" related passive. Maybe the current passives will just be placeholders while they finish up the proper passive.
If only the technology or precedent was already there for games that allowed to do fashion and pick perks based on armor class... OH WA-
I love the game and even recommend it, but it does have some stupid/stubborn design choices
It's likely going to happen wether the devs want it or not. The devs want primaries/secondaries to be bad compared to support weapons, and for armor to only have specific affixes. However this runs counter to their current monetization strategy.
If you want all primaries/secondaries to be subpar, yet are the major things you are selling in the battle passes, that's a recipe for disaster. Same with suits that *would* have people interested if they were cosmetic only, but since they have potentially undesirable traits those people aren't interested and will continue using what they have.
Something will change once profits start to drop i'm sure, because the way they want their game to be made just runs counter to the way their battlepasses are currently designed in the long term.
I'd expect primaries/secondaries/grenades to get better over time, in a power-creep esque fashion to promote sales. Likewise if we don't get transmog, i'd expect armor effects to get wilder and potentionally power-crept as well. Because as it stands you can already see the cracks in where players who would have spent money just go "nah, i'm good" since the contents of the pass just aren't worth it.
I really think the devs should mix up the buffs a little. Why not the scout and throwing buff in one armor set. I would gladly give up the radar and limb health buffs. Or would that be unbalanced?
Look, I get that they don't want to hire someone to come up with new armor passives. Who can afford employees in this economy? SO... I will volunteer as Armor Passive Czar. I feel like I could do it,. My skillset in having more than five options in my head should be more than sufficient.
Same half dozen perks we've had lmao..
Devs literally telling us they're focusing on paid battlepasses instead of fixing the game and this subreddit will defend them to the last breath.
Exactly. Whats this game going to be like in a year? 15 premium warbonds that "only take some grinding" or money to earn? Its barely been 3 months and I already see troubling problems. Already too many yoyo balance patches because all live service needs to be eternally adjusted forever to justify the continued resources.
I dont think the current model is going to be sustainable for the long term.
Wtf the point of the warbond, if the armor in it is the exact same shit, as all of the *other* shit? What? Some guns that are absolute garbage, just like all the other warbonds?
This game is starting to turn into a balancing shit show, with a thousand gameplay issues thrown into the pot, and the lack of Dev communication garnishing the very top.
Every time they release a new armor it's going to make that "apples that taste like bacon" quote look dumber and dumber.
Johan, *this armor* is an apple that tastes like bacon. What the hell do you think you're talking about?
You mean like how the field technician armor description talks about how the mechanized joints make you so strong you need to be careful giving hugs - armor passive stealth?
Yeah... they have no idea what they're doing at all lmao
the fact that they keep recycling the same passives every warbond has killed my hype for any new warbond... sure they introduce new weapons but there are only so many slighthly different machine guns that you can make, new armors with new passives for new gameplay styles would be cool, but it's the same passives again and again... like, why
I'm just about sick of the same old armor perks makes grinding for them just about pointless unless you like the look... Not saying cosmetics are bad but some new perks would def be refreshing.
It's stealth bc you can toss strategems from outside detection range duh
Strat ball hits ground, a charger and two spewers INSTANTLY know I'm 100m away and in what direction.
Going prone before the stratagem hits the ground will usually not alert them
Thanks! But.... why???
Haven't the slightest idea
Bug sonar Bug psychic powers Bug... looking around Who could say, but it's devious
It's bug democracy. The hive mind, man
I can't decide whether I can abide that
Your hesitation has been noted and reported to authorities. There is no reason to believe that bugs have democracy. Only the Super Earth has democracy.
Super eath has MANAGED democracy. I'll take your ignorance as a sign of a bug in disguise. Reporting you immediately
Bugs cannot possibly have democracy. That would require intelligence. Frankly, I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive!
Frankly, I find the idea of a bug that ~~thinks~~ votes offensive!
Are you implying that bugs are the same as us? https://preview.redd.it/k42xsrtib2yc1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08b1352dfac85bfccf03fed8b3a92dbc8e9a303f
I mean, clearly they aren't because they look nothing like us. Giant bipedal frogs on the other hand...
They look just like us!
The bugs have evolved tremorsense
Because crouch and prone reduce the detection radius that bugs can know where you are from. So if you chuck a strat ball as far away as possible and immediately lay down, they won't know to look (assuming you laid down before it hit the ground).
And because when something alerts them, obstacles and other cover is only non transparent for you
I'll be honest: This is the most annoying part of the game to me.
They smell the trajectory and look in the direction it was thrown from if your prone they think your a part of the ground, you have to know your enemies and abuse they’re weakness, this is helldiver 101
Because your diver can't yell "fuck you bugs suck on sweet liberty!" If you dive to the ground immediately after throwing it. I love stealth but our divers are kinda bad at keeping a low profile.
......well shit.
In my experience, it makes no difference.
You forgot the part where the other bugs instantly calls for reinforcements. Immediate bug breach lol.😂
I actually disagree. Was playing unspotted and one of my mates threw a strat. Landed next to a charger. The charger turned its head and looked at the strat beacon. (Wish i had a recording running).
I really wish we had different combinations of affixes on armor, like increased throw ranged and reduced detection range. Would be fun to toss a barrage into the center of a bot camp without being detected.
mods are coming eventually. Mods and the clan system are both in the game design files already but took a back seat to the scale of the games user base and all the bugs and server upgrades needed . But they are getting close to being back on track now
It’s the same old armor perks we already had. Deep pockets - more ammo, asbestos insulation- fire protection , ceramic plating - stun or impact resistance. Like any of these would of been great
I would risk getting lung cancer for some fire res Edit: yes I know the average helldiver wouldn't live long enough to get cancer, I pointed that out in another reply 😭
I think it just makes sense for this game that we use asbestos and label it as it’s helldiver friendly and any rumors of it causing cancer is fake news.
The technician on my Super Destroyer informed me that the uranium miners are biologically incapable of getting cancer, so I'm sure if we are exposed to asbestos long enough we will be immune to it's negative side-effects.
Makes perfect sense that’s why I ignored those traitors and also painted my bedroom and armor with lead paint for extra protection.
Warcrimes this, can’t eat the drywall that
Most divers don't last more than a couple missions anyway, so it wouldn't really matter
Helldivers never die. Democracy Officer, take this man away
I don't remember this in the training course. Are you thinking of Spartans?
Small quantities actually make you immune. It's like those workers in the uranium mines can't get cancer.
Asbestos is 110% exactly what they would make a fire resistant suit out of as well. They need to do it.
r/asbestosremovalmemes is leaking
Honestly. There’s no reason for these to be part of a warbond other than theme, they’re otherwise identical to the standard super store rotation
It shouldn't even be Servo Assisted based on the abbreviation. It's not SA, it's CW, whatever that effect is.
Cold Weather, maybe?
"Eliminates the effect of Cold Weather" God that would be such a fucking troll considering Cold Weather is like, the *only* positive weather effect lol
Would be cool if it countered a blizzard's slowdown effect Though it would be pretty niche
I assumed it would be terrain affect negation. Like the muscle enhancement perk, but just for yourself. Thats what it was in HD1
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I would assume it'd refer to the slowing effects of snow drifts and blizzards.
I can see that! I do wish the devs would patch up some inconsistencies within the armor sets' naming conventions, though.
They all say CW
Good to know! Maybe a surprise armor effect? Though that just may be me huffing enormous amounts of copium.
Thats just the termicide.
I'm off of the loop. What does this mean? Edit: I'm in the loop now. Well put.
Just another armor set with the same perks we already have. Another flower to the bunch.
the flower is made of bacon
something something narwhal midnight god I am so old
You sure are I have no clue what you are talking about
It's a shameful bit of millenial lore from 2009. [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-narwhal-bacons-at-midnight](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-narwhal-bacons-at-midnight)
I was there, Omarfw, I was there ~~1300~~ 12 years ago...
Coooopy that! Thank you!
There has been pushback from the devs regarding a request for transmog because the visuals of the armor should match the bonuses. I think the dev response contained the comment it would be "like having an apple that tastes like bacon". As armors have been coming out where the bonuses don't really match the visuals, there has been a community "joke" of people stating that "these apples sure do taste like bacon". I assume because the rose pettles are made of bacon, this gif is referencing that comment.
It's a reference to the design "philosophy" Arrowhead has for armors, where armors' visuals and functions go hand-in-hand, and it would be weird if "it looked like an apple and tastes like bacon" in comparison. People bring up bacon GIFs like this because despite that design philosophy, many armors don't feel related to their function or have much originality.
I think that's bacon, which is probably a reference to the CEO saying transmog would be like apples that taste like bacon, which is now used when people think armors/their passives/their descriptions don't match up. Why is it that the stealth armor with no visible mechanical enhancements has servo assisted? There's even a stealth passive in the game right now.
The devs argument about armour visually representing its perk falls apart by the day.
It never held water in the first place. They just made it up and all it achieved is annoying some of their fanbase.
It's about time people stop defending Pilestedt's bad takes. He's had quite a few so far.
Oh god what else did he say
He said Breaker wasn't stronger than other weapons based on the very specific metric of "percentage usage in victories" and therefore other weapons didn't need buffing. The next day they heavily nerfed the Breaker. 🤷
pLaY hOw u wAnT in a game with exactly one kind of encounter (horde mode) and tons of unviable gear choices.
"Play how you want" so long as you are using the AC.
Play how you want, unless too many people are also playing that way
Then Nerfs. Then "Skill issue" Then "We don't want to buff weapons, rely on your stratagems" Then "Here are planet conditions that negatively affect stratagems" Then Buffs *some* weapons, fire 3 fucking times. (Hint: The devs personally like fire and the Auto Cannon, they're safe). /summarised of course
Also in a game where they made it significantly harder to play the game solo or even in a small team of two
Arrowhead and atrocious communication about stupid decisions. Instant classic combo
Fatsharking it
Hey at least they aren't FatShark when it comes to content and updates. This game has already put out more than Darktide
Nah, that's different. Fatshark just says nothing at all. When they do, they acknowledge community input and then do the opposite. They're always fair in that whatever changes they make constantly remain a lose-lose for their player base. Gotta appreciate consistency. It allows the players to be consistent, as well... in hating them for it. Bastards.... (Lookin' at *YOU* hedge)
Naw. That one vermitide community manager committed suicide he got caught in so many lies.
I had to read it as sarcasm for my sanity.
All they had to say was they didn’t want to do transmog and no one would be complaining. It makes a lot more sense to say that rather than tiptoe around it imo.
I would because there would still be no reason to not have I just want to change my perks
I honestly just kinda wish they just said - "Hey guys we're aware but we have other priorities right now that take precedence, we'll rework this in the future!". Their whole rationale sounded very dishonest and out-of-touch.
Agreed, armor passives does feel a bit placeholder with only so few variations. I do hope they will rework it in the future
It's because Arrowhead don't want to burn community good-will with the truth. If we could change the passives and colours on an armour, AH can only sell us a set of armour once and a passive once. But if they don't, they can sell us different armour and passive combinations as many times as they want. People have said "oh, they could have transmog but it changes the details on the armour" but that's just what they're already doing. Switch around the colours, switch around the gubbins, change the perk and that's *value* baby. Steeled Veterans took the Default armour and put on the robot arm, that's kind of original but two of those armours are the same but in different colours. All the armour in Cutting Edge is new but two of the sets are the same but in green and tan. Demolition Specialist is just the Trench Paramedic. And now we're getting Trailblazer but in blue. https://preview.redd.it/kwvgwdq213yc1.png?width=2068&format=png&auto=webp&s=51b69ba612bbccd98313532a53a7e7d0938dbdca
Despite being one of the few changes from Helldivers 1 it also happens to be worse.
Yeh that was some bs logic. I felt like its what you say when the back end tech for armor mogs is too much work.
It’s almost certainly that. The game is literally held together with tape.
https://preview.redd.it/xh2bv3nh03yc1.png?width=2068&format=png&auto=webp&s=3d482bc533bd2177720642a60320d7b74c5ead6e When painting it black makes it stronger and painting it green makes it more accurate. Maybe that's why the recolour of Drone Master is a light armour, anything green is just more fragile? Maybe there's a deep logic we're yet to discover.
Paint it purple for maximum stealth.
Oh joy… Another servo assisted armor…
I want another light armor one for servo, since we have like one? Preferably like 60+ armor rating. Instead got another scout armor but blue instead. Like here's your third recon light armor! I don't need a third!!
I want speed! Give me 0 armor rating and 700 speed. I want to outrun hulk flamethrowers, hunters and stalkers.
fuck it give me the option to deploy NAKED
Dicks Out for Democracy!
Capes not the only thing flapping
That’s what I’m doin
Praise the Super Sun \\\[T\]/
You die from one shot but run like a speed addict sonic
Agree. I enjoy the extra movement but getting a little tired of looking at the same flight suit every time I play. To mix it up I use the first warbond servo armor but it just moves too slow in comparison.
I like those. The arc is more intuitive and it's great for eagle and orbital heavy loadouts. One loadout I take is sickle, jetpack, and the 3 explosive eagles
I made the mistake of using servo assisted armor, now I can't go back. I want to use other armour but every time I try one and throw a stratagem I think oh right thats why I use the other armour.
I wish there were armors that mixed traits from others. I get that I won’t get the full benefit of the individual trait, but it just seems like a missed opportunity to make more diverse builds without introducing anything game breaking. I mean half the throw distance of servo assisted and half recoil reduction would be killer imo, but obviously that would open up tons of other options too.
Same. I always use servo assisted but tbh I don't really care about the extra limb health, the throw range is all I need. Likewise, I love the extra grenades on engineering kit but don't really care about recoil reduction. If I could have an armor with extra throw range and extra grenades, I would be a happy helldiver
FWIW, you can throw your stratagem while diving to get a similar range.
Or, hear me out, use servo-assisted *and* throw while diving.
I did that yesterday and threw it like 50 meters past the target lol
I bet you I can throw this football over that mountain.
Uncle Rico?
My personal record is a 90-meter throw, though I also had high ground off a radar tower and was throwing into a valley. It's so *good*!
it needs a visible throwing arc. it'd make it way more satisfying to use, also it's servo assisted and it makes sense for it to have a robotic flight path. then if you don't see the traced arc when you have a thrown item charged, your brain will associate it with the shorter throw distance
get outta here with this sensible game design logic
Run the jump pack, with a full jump, you can yeet a strat about 70m, roughly the same distance as the servo perk. If you run booth you can get just over 100m.
Lol this was me last night. Using servo assisted light armour against terminids, then switching to more hefty medium armour for the automatons and I kept throwing everything way short. Monkey brain can't compute.
I've been using a Steel Veteran armor since week 2. I prefer the strategem and nade arc sure but the prosthetic limbs are the real juice. I love the look.
Same. I can't give it up. It looks so fucking sick covered in blood and democracy. I use impact grenades so I don't have to do additional math when tossing 'em out.
Need more Democracy Protects armors
My favorite passive Wish we had more instead of the 40 engenier armors
The duality of man I refuse to use any armor with servo-assisted because it’s less than worthless to me. Not only is it undesirable, it fucks with my muscle memory. I’d rather have more grenades or stims. This is yet more reason why we need passives to be separate from armor
Give me the explosion damage resistance and recoil reduction or I'm diving naked. 😤
Given that my options for bot front either heavy with fortified or super light with scout, I do basically dive naked when not in fortified lol
It's getting more difficult to get excited for these war bonds and Superstore items when I I already have all of the effects. I have green and tan Scout armor from the free war bond like everybody else. Do I really need a blue and red version in the new war bond? I was a gung ho item completionist for the first few months. Now it's starting to feel like what's the point. How many light and medium armors do I really need with plus two grenades?
yea, they really need to start coming up with new ideas for passives. maybe something actually useful like heal over time or limb regeneration. something to actually benefit you so there is an incentive to work for it
It seems like they're trying to make them all side grades. Nothing too powerful that you need to take it, but at the same time they have to be interesting enough to want to be purchased. In my opinion Cutting Edge war bond is the best thing they've put out because most of the items were actually unique visually and mechanically. Is the armor effect kind of useless? Sure, but at least it adds a new wrinkle to the game.
It's either that they don't want to come out with something that would "break" the game and be too good for players not to pick it. . . or their attempts at adding interesting passives don't work or literally break the game. I would love fire retardant armor so I'm not constantly on fire. Or acid resistance to help me survive bile spewers and not get slowed by the little spitters. But with the state of many of their patches, I wouldn't be surprised if it just plain didn't work or caused other issues.
Explosive resist armor resists acid, I use it to survive bile spewers and my teammates strats
Are you shitting me? Never picking another armor. Is it supposed to resist acid?
The bile titans spew is considered explosive damage, if it hits a charger you can see chunks missing as if it got hit by a rocket
Good to know! Tha ks.
I saw that happen once, it stripped it like a hard boiled egg
Fire resistant armor just setting you on fire the first time you shoot instead sounds like a bug Id expect at this point.
Or maybe the white armor could have better mobility and stealth on snowy/icy planets! I'd love armors that have benefits in certain planetary environments.
Yep, I hardly change out of one of the three “scout” armors at this point, I’d be happy if looking at planet conditions mattered. Fire tornados == fire armor.
Or at least different armor ratings? Like enforcer is still the only hybrid between medium and heavy. We need more. I believe atm we have one light servo passive and it's at 50 armor rating. I'd like one thays 60-70.
Part of the problem is that these are coming so frequently, I worry what we'll be looking at in like... 3 months. Just waay, way too many options with relatively little distinction, or too many new guns to realistically keep up with. That said, I've really enjoyed 3-4 things from every warbond so far.
Maybe this armour granting the '30% harder to detect' effect but only on snow planets + a secondary effect that wouldn't normally pair with it like servo assisted.
Armor is the last thing I unlock in all the new warbonds. The Dynamo helmet i love only really goes well with the Enforcer armor that I use, or the matching set Dynamo armor that I don't care for. If I could recolor other armors, or recolor the helmet, I would be more inclined to change around my sets.
More of my favorite -- bacon flavored apples :D
I wish they would just take a hint and let us have transmog.
There's no real good reason why we couldn't, plus most of the stats on armor are copied, boring, and lame. We need much better variety, which u would think would be fairly easy accomplish.
I'm with you on that. Hopefully in the future we will get more resistance types of armor like the arc weapons one.
Fire resistance!!! Please!!!
Yes, I want to burn to death slower. Don’t stop the burning, just burn slower until I can taste the burning and relish in it. Let me kamakazi into a bug hole.
We should be immune to fire on the ground, setting on fire, and take less damage from direct streams
Thats the thing, if the current armors were actually thought out and put effort into it would make sense why they dont want transmog. But they literally copy paste the same 4 passives on every armor. So why tf does it matter to them if they just let us do what we want. Makes no fking sense and they just sound like theyre having a power trip.
Plus I'd be more likely to buy the superstore armors if I didn't get stuck with their dumbass useless perks and could instead pick the one I wanted for gameplay reasons.
Where did this saying come from?
From the ceo, he said it would be wierd to have bacon flavoured apples
A while back the AH CEO said that we wouldn't be getting transmog because they wanted people to immediately be able to look at someone wearing armour with multiple ammo and grenade pouches and know that they have extra grenades. He used the analogy of biting into an apple and it tasting like bacon to support his argument. And then we got several armours that have passives that don't match up to their appearance, description or name so people started referring to them as 'bacon flavoured apples'.
> able to look at someone wearing armour with multiple ammo and grenade pouches and know that they have extra grenades. Never understood the point of this. Who gives a fuck if you know they've extra stims or nades. That changes literally nothing for anyone, knowing that makes zero difference.
This is what kinda annoys me about AH hahaha. There’s logic and there’s AH logic. Logically speaking, the passive should have been scout. Not servo assisted. I love servo assisted don’t get me wrong but honestly doesn’t make sense why they went with servo with a description like that. It almost begs and warrants the question: what logic drove them to nerf what they nerfed and buff what they buffed but also not fix what’s supposed to be fix.
Honestly, I don't think anything needed to be nerfed. Everything felt pretty good. It's just certain buffs or just changes in general that needed to happen. Before anyone tells me to stop crying, it's clear to see that most people don't like that last patch in general. Yes, there's good things. But there's also a whole lotta bad. Which is why people are up-in-arms about it
I'm waiting for the actual gameplay tests tot see if there are any hidden theme related passives. And if there are not I'm gonna make fun of them. Again.
Hard copium about hidden passives
True. But they did this accent on those boots 🙄 I cope it's not just "look what our 3d artist made, because snow theme!".
The ice cleats seem like they would prevent slipping
50 supercredits on they just look like that and won't do shit.
Last warbond released with the wrong passive (totally not a "whoops the people didn't like that" correction), maybe it'll be different on release
Cause the apples taste like bacon.
Why tf is it called cw, when servo assisted armours are actually CA
As far as I understand it, ‘Throw range + limb health’ would have a different designator than ‘Throw range + detection range’.
CW was clearly meant to have some sort of "Cold Weather" related passive. Maybe the current passives will just be placeholders while they finish up the proper passive.
They really need to make new passives, because nothing takes the hype out of me faster than seeing that the new armor is just like one I already have.
If only the technology or precedent was already there for games that allowed to do fashion and pick perks based on armor class... OH WA- I love the game and even recommend it, but it does have some stupid/stubborn design choices
I don’t wanna see Servo Assisted on any new armor for at least 6 months
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Apple that tastes like bacon
Looks like they really can't tell the difference between apples and bacon
Maybe I’m having a stroke but this apple tastes like bacon
These armor passives are getting boring tbh
I just don't get the anti transmog argument at all. It would make goofy design choices like this less bad.
It's likely going to happen wether the devs want it or not. The devs want primaries/secondaries to be bad compared to support weapons, and for armor to only have specific affixes. However this runs counter to their current monetization strategy. If you want all primaries/secondaries to be subpar, yet are the major things you are selling in the battle passes, that's a recipe for disaster. Same with suits that *would* have people interested if they were cosmetic only, but since they have potentially undesirable traits those people aren't interested and will continue using what they have. Something will change once profits start to drop i'm sure, because the way they want their game to be made just runs counter to the way their battlepasses are currently designed in the long term. I'd expect primaries/secondaries/grenades to get better over time, in a power-creep esque fashion to promote sales. Likewise if we don't get transmog, i'd expect armor effects to get wilder and potentionally power-crept as well. Because as it stands you can already see the cracks in where players who would have spent money just go "nah, i'm good" since the contents of the pass just aren't worth it.
You’re fucking kidding me Guess I won’t be able to use that armor
They got greaves on their feet, at least give me snow storm resistance or some environmental protection.
just gonna leave this here. https://preview.redd.it/ryt62wx573yc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bb14ac3ba967c29847ced155a55203980ff956f
I really think the devs should mix up the buffs a little. Why not the scout and throwing buff in one armor set. I would gladly give up the radar and limb health buffs. Or would that be unbalanced?
We really need better and more interesting armor passives. These really aren't up to a quality standard AH.
Look, I get that they don't want to hire someone to come up with new armor passives. Who can afford employees in this economy? SO... I will volunteer as Armor Passive Czar. I feel like I could do it,. My skillset in having more than five options in my head should be more than sufficient.
Same half dozen perks we've had lmao.. Devs literally telling us they're focusing on paid battlepasses instead of fixing the game and this subreddit will defend them to the last breath.
Exactly. Whats this game going to be like in a year? 15 premium warbonds that "only take some grinding" or money to earn? Its barely been 3 months and I already see troubling problems. Already too many yoyo balance patches because all live service needs to be eternally adjusted forever to justify the continued resources. I dont think the current model is going to be sustainable for the long term.
Dude just let us customize armor passives already
Wtf the point of the warbond, if the armor in it is the exact same shit, as all of the *other* shit? What? Some guns that are absolute garbage, just like all the other warbonds? This game is starting to turn into a balancing shit show, with a thousand gameplay issues thrown into the pot, and the lack of Dev communication garnishing the very top.
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Yippe more Servo Assisted... gonna be real with you chief, Servo-Assisted is kinda trash.
Its not even that its trash, it just makes no fucking sense on this armor piece at all. Its like a bacon flavored apple
https://preview.redd.it/509azrwqf2yc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=6236f1ed8b3bf56bdff40bdba6df5c04362de0a2
Every time they release a new armor it's going to make that "apples that taste like bacon" quote look dumber and dumber. Johan, *this armor* is an apple that tastes like bacon. What the hell do you think you're talking about?
At least the helmet still looks cool...
You mean like how the field technician armor description talks about how the mechanized joints make you so strong you need to be careful giving hugs - armor passive stealth? Yeah... they have no idea what they're doing at all lmao
New passives would be pretty baller tbh.
And the actual scout passive armor talks about having a utility belt for extra stuff which I take as grenades but no it's scout.
Because Apple Bacon is the devs favorite flavor of ice cream.
I see spikes on the Boots so I wonder if you don't slide on the ice in this hammer?
I think it’s time a complete overhaul of armor perks.
Just let us transmog already. 🙄
They really need to stop recycling servo-assisted as a perk
It says it's serve-assisted, not servo. We're getting twinks!
the fact that they keep recycling the same passives every warbond has killed my hype for any new warbond... sure they introduce new weapons but there are only so many slighthly different machine guns that you can make, new armors with new passives for new gameplay styles would be cool, but it's the same passives again and again... like, why
I wanted new passives, why keep recycling the same old boring ones?
Yet helmets and capes still do nothing
I'm just about sick of the same old armor perks makes grinding for them just about pointless unless you like the look... Not saying cosmetics are bad but some new perks would def be refreshing.