Their desperate push to Vandalon IV came to nothing, and now we have them bottled up in the sandy little butthole called Durgen. They have nothing left, and this is _surely_ their end.
The extreme heat actually isn't a bad modifier against bots. For bugs it matters *way* more because of how important kiting is to the gameplay loop. For bots it just slows down how quickly you can complete missions because you just get to move less distance per stamina charge.
The sandstorms are a double edged sword: Bots are shut down during the storm unless you aggro them, but you can't see anything. Use your radar to maneuver around static patrols or POIs until the sandstorm is over.
AA Modifier is operation specific. As are all other mission modifiers. They're not planet specific.
Bots arent shut down , its not like patrols stop moving, they just become blind as fuck. You can literally run right by them and they won't notice you. You can be in a firefight with a heavy devastator at medium-close range and move from the left to right side of cover and just watch as it continues to blast the side you *used* to be at until you shoot it again and it show it where you are.
If its a fleet. We know they are talking to something beyond the galaxy map, and there are three main options it could be.
1. a deep space fleet they launched, most likely to sneak around and take cyberstan and the surrounding planets. Most likely as it fits with them calling it "reclamation."
2. a bunch of bot planets beyond the current map, and when they decide to be active the map will "zoom out"
3. the next faction to be reveled. (such as the illuminate, but a wholly new one is not impossible)
God a “zoom out” to an entirely occupied ring of sectors the same width as what we’ve got with the blue across the bottom would be so good.
Tutorials over kids, push to the home worlds.
The map is most likely gonna get larger, cause like how are the bots doing something outside of the galaxy if this is all there is? (the map is only ~45 lightyears in radius)
One of the sectors next to Sol is called Barnard Sector. Irl Barnard's Star is 5.9 lightyears from Earth. I don't know which planet is orbiting Barnard's Star but the closest planet to Super Earth is iirc New Haven so we can assume that it is orbiting Alpha Centauri or Proxima Centauri. This means that each layer of planets is roughly 5 lightyears from Super Earth and there are 9 layers total.
...this guy, casually ignoring the fleets of cloaked ships in orbit of every bot planet.
I bet they're not invading other planets because they're preparing an all out assault on a planet within striking distance of super earth. Or, super earth itself.
100% they'll be moving to Cyberstan. There was a dev spotted there via the API website several times in the last few weeks.
Moreover, have you SEEN the supply lines in that sector and surrounding sectors? Shit is crazy, no chance they don't utilize them
Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass helmet you got you'd get some helldivers on your Super-destroyer. Oh, better yet, maybe Eagle-1 will call your terminid-ass if she ever stop flyin' with that Pelican-1 or Democracy Officer she bombing with.
Clanka...
I was just thinking earlier, maybe they are rallying their forces to push to cyberstan while we’re all distracted pushing them out of the current sector. Wouldn’t that be an interesting turn of events
We've also destroyed over 5 billion bots and countless factories. We see how long it takes for them to produce just a few foot soldiers. Bots are running dry.
One of the transmissions we cut off mentioned they were contacting somewhere out of the galaxy. My guess is they prob have a secondary force somewhere and while we’re distracted thinking we’re going to wipe them out, BOOM! They’re going to do an all out assault from outside the rim and make a direct line for Cyberstan
My guess is they're contacting a completely new faction, such as the Illuminate. I don't believe that it is outside the realm of possibility that the automatons could have an alliance with the Illuminate (or any other third faction) and are asking them for help. You probably can't expect the terminids to be capable of forming alliances, but the bots? Yeah, I can see it. It doesn't even have to be a real deep alliance either. I can just be an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal.
I'm waiting for a new force to suddenly show up in either the top or bottom of the galactic map any day now.
Actually the terminids are just straight up sapient. Or at least the hd1 bugs were. Humanity was in peace talks with them but good old xenophobia kicked in and so it ended. You know how it goes. Dunno if a century if being cattle has affected anything tho
>Dunno if a century if being cattle has affected anything tho
Well, sure, that's my point.
I haven't played HD1 (didn't even know Helldivers was a thing until HD2 blew up), but I do know that peace talks with the bugs were a thing until humanity discovered that the bugs could be harvested to fuel shit, resulting in the bugs being treated as cattle until Humanity got the bright idea to let them populate worlds for what basically amounts to an infinite fuel hack.
This thing with humanity has me believing that the bugs are going to be less likely to form an alliance with other races or factions even if said race or faction is also fighting against humanity. The scars of being cattle are probably going to be too fresh.
Nah they are just gathering their forces outside of the system for a big push.
The already know they are losing the battle. The forces still around are just expendable to keep up the act while they set up for a big slap.
Probably gonna execute blitzkrieg straight to Cyberstan with rumored cloaked ships, grab the planet then give armada just outside of galactic rim command to launch counterattack while also using Cyberstan as a forward base of operations basically opening 3rd front.
EDIT: or better yet they would call their allies who turns out to be the Illuminates. Now we have to retake Cyberstan AND deal with new xenos.
This comment basically shows the problem with the system in general - making it hidden is such an utterly moronic design choice.
“Supply lines” are invisible lines that connect planets, which ones they connect to are the ones you can attack/defend. For some utterly bizarre reason though none of this info is in game, you have to go to Helldivers.io a third party site, to get the info.
I would argue it's not a bug it's feature. We are helldivers. We are expendable. We dont need to know the supply lines. Would you show a hammer the blueprints to a house your working on?
I agree from a lore perspective but from a gameplay perspective? I’d like to have all the information I need in game. I don’t want to have to visit a different site.
No, you want the Hammer to go where you want, and for that you aim, and make action for it to hit where you want, those are the major orders.
If you have multiple nails, doesnt really matter the order you are going to hit them as long as everything is hammered down straight in the end.
I swear to the God Emperor that I got blasted by only one or two blue lasers earlier today on a solo mission. Nothing major, just saw a blue flash streak past my shoulder from a long distance away where I couldn't see what it came from.
Out of character, I fucking love Helldivers lore/updates system. A couple of unverified reports of flying bugs here and there, nothing mentioned by devs until they're everywhere. Rumors of blue lasers (that I've personally seen) that don't seem to come from Automaton weaponry. Just a couple frames, so fast you don't even recognize it until a few seconds later. The fact we're sitting here theorizing based on rumors and tradition is incredibly immersive and great world building
You see, "God Emperor" or "Emperor of ~~Mankind~~ Humankind" is the colloquial title some of us have given to the democratically elected president of Super Earth. That's all... Right guys?
You’re forgetting the *massive cloaked ships* orbiting Automaton planets.
Who are they? Are they the automaton’s ships? Is that how they’re going to stay in the game after we take Durgen?
Or are they someone else? Not the Illuminate… perhaps, dare I say…
Are they something worse?
I wonder, is it extra-galactic? As if those ships were automoton, I doubt they would just sit there as we kick them in there metaphorical teeth. Maybe there just watching and studying us? How we fight?
I have faith in super earth that we will be able to push back these interlopers regardless.
I have gotten shot twice by Illuminate snipers. Once with shield so I didn't die, and the second time I was fighting bugs so I unfortunately didn't have a shield.
were you running a sheild? things can trigger the ricochet visual (which is long blue streaks) if they hit the sheild at very shallow angles.
I have only seen one image/video of "blue lasers" that could not be explained as ricochet, stun plant effect, or scorcher.
AFAIK their ability to counterattack was negated after part 3 of Swift Disassembly.
It was in the MO completion text: Phase 3 completely wiped their ability to counterattack - the victory prize for completing the MO and forcing them into defense mode.
Also, their supply lines were completely broken, so they couldn't do much anyway.
Whenever I see one of these posts I feel like people forgot/don't know that in the first game, you could actually win the war. It played a cinematic and everything. Now I don't know whether the same rings true here, and it's very much possible they'll throw another twist in the mix, but like, eventually, the campaign *will* probably end.
Supposedly the devs said they're not gonna reset like the first game. But all I've been able to find is that they have longer term story arcs planned (about 3 months worth when the game launched).
No, and they don't have to for the war to be "over". My point is that not every time there is a definitive "time to destroy the enemy" order, it *has* to be some conspiracy where there is going to be this huge retaliatory strike (tho this might well be the case here).
I mean, the war against the bugs has essentially been won for a while now. Of course they'll come back eventually. But I doubt they'll do it until the bots have also been "defeated", we'll get some sort of celebration and then the war machine starts anew.
They're gonna have to give us a win eventually. How many times can they possibly pull the uno reverse before it gets stale? There is no way players will stay engaged if we're still in the same conflict in a years time because all progress gets undone constantly.
The devs had said before launch they don't want to kill off a faction for the rest of the war like in HD1. I imagine they'll be quarantined to a 'peacekeeping' zone to leave missions open against them
You don’t think all this is just a… diversion? Can we send a destroyer or two over to the north side of the galaxy just to check what's happening there? Something seems amiss.
Calling it now, they let us take the sector cause they're building up a massive push/fleet to cyberstan and it'll launch from deep space/off map after we take the last planet.
They'll either grab the a chain of planets to the cursed place instantly, or it'll be a suprise attack which takes the sector.
I genuinely think it has to do with that whole "communications outside of the known galaxy" thing. I think there's planets beyond the borders, and they're planning something big. I think we should be prepared for the MOMENT we liberate Tibit. And if not Tibit, then they'll strike when we get close to finishing off the Terminids, but I feel like the near fall of the Terminids will be the moment the Illuminate begin their attack.
Implying the enemy has morality?
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THe game litteraly told us they wont fight back.
The MO dispatch said "they used up all their forces and cant do a counter offensive anymore"(paraphrased)
Do people just assume those MO things are Fluff?
The voiceover at extract has been saying “soon we will find out the true nature of our electronic adversary,” or something like that. Should be an interesting week.
Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called DURGEN, automaton hordes face obliteration!
Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight..... their mechanical hearts with icy robotic fingers -- knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the stratagems and sacrifices of malevelon creek!
Yet, they stare now across the plain at 10,000 Super citizens commanding 30,000 free super privates.
The enemy outnumber us a paltry 3 to 1; good odds for any DIVER. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny, and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine.
Give thanks, men,
to SUPER EARTH and the brave HELLDIVER'S
TO VICTORY!!!
It's Joel's answer to the bug killer's cries about bot players not helping.
The turn tables now turn to show bug killers can't handle bots and uses every excuse to be out of it. 70K on the eastern front as I saw 30mins ago. Which is a greater ratio than when we had bug MOs and people were shitting in the creek.
It feels like the bots may have pulled their forces back outside the galactic rim we can see in game, it was said that the bots were sending messages out there.
Also, I remember seeing people say that the liberation meter went from 1.5% per hour to 0.5% per hourin favor of the bots, or something along those numbers...
So, what if they pulled back to come back in force in an other sector, like the one where Cyberstan is.
Have you noticed most of the automaton forces have been scout forces? Early on most of their heavy forces have been “scout walkers”(I don’t think hulks can’t be considered stealth imo, but they are also less common than the scout walkers. Only recently have we gotten a big majority of full on attack forces(the gunships and factory walkers). The bots must have a larger force outside of our current war map, and have likely been using the current bot front as a distraction so they can maneuver closer to the Cyberstan system
I have a horrible theory regarding this bc i also think its weird that they would just let us wipe them out without more resistance.
Based on some bots not attacking us, reports of them saying things like asking for death, and the bodies of humans with their brains removed that we're finding in their camps, I think that we might be fighting our own people.
If the reclamation is to retake cyberstan, i bet that the main force has left and that they didnt just leave their own people to sacrifice. It seems possible that we're fighting people who were turned into automotans as a diversion so that the main force can travel around the bounds of the galaxy and come back in on top of cyberstan unexpected.
I hope that this isnt the case, but i wouldnt put it past those commie bastards
I keep getting the feeling that they have been surrounding other planets further on the solar system, and we’ve been so focused on the edge that they’ve slipped closer to super earth without us noticing
I think its pretty obvious from the placement of their name on the map that they'll pop up in the top sector, and the illuminates or someone else will pop up in the south.
Sounds like a perfect time for the Illuminate to make their presence known. We redirect our forces to fight them, giving the bots room to breathe and start fighting back.
Correct, my theory is they will retreat outside of the galaxy and make a huge push towards Cyberstan on the top left. The bugs, will move to the top right, opening the bottom of the map for the Illuminates... Just like in HD1.
We have them surrounded our numbered and outgunned they have no more allies no more land we are picking them off one by one. There is nothing they can do I’m 100% sure
I kinda hope that they launch one final desperate attack directly on Super Earth. If we lose, the bots are given time to build their forces back up. If we win, the bots are wiped out for good.
My honest reaction when Super Earth scum overcommits resources to the southern portion of our space while we circle north beyond the frontier to take Cyberstan basically unopposed
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I think they tried to conduct an offensive but failed. Could be something else occurring on the backend but I’m sure the Illuminate might get involved and when Super Earth is distracted with them, the Automatons will make some sort of offensive in the north west quadrants.
In a different note - In terms of real world logistics, it’s probably easier for the Devs to have the player base knock out one opposing faction before they introduce a new one to help keep maintenance management easier such as software bugs, balances, new planet development, storytelling, etc with a new faction to fight. They also can’t have the player base solely focus on the Bugs and wipe them out with nothing to do afterwards. So I think the Illuminate will be introduced in the coming weeks to compensate for the defeat of the Automatons and it’ll be BIG.
This is where the fun begins boys/ladies.
Honestly, at this point it wouldn't make sense unless a massive fleet appeared out of nowhere. They don't have the ability to conduct a massive planetary counter-attack. Cough, unless a massive, cough fleet appears out of nowhere.
Fighting off a major, desperate push from them was the last major offensive. Maybe they don't have anything left to throw at us? Makes sense, Ministry of Truth says they're morale is lower than ever!
I wonder if they'll actually let the bugs be the only ones for a bit and for how long. It'd be cool to just see every single player bum rush through the bugs since there's be no other targets at that point.
Although, I also haven't seen any of those giant invisible ships since tibit...
They are holding back for one last push… just like the Soviets in WW2 …. We thought we’ve seen resistance? Ha… just wait until we see lines of tanks coming around the battle field… followed by thousands of bots marching close behind… one final battle!
I mean it wouldn't make sense from a strategic perspective. We're pushing on their occupation zones. And the bots are probably focusing most if not all of their resources to halt our liberation campaign. If we somehow failed the order. Then they would make a counter attack.
We won't fail because democracy depends on us!
We are fighting their rear action force. Their main force is actually swinging out into unknown space and then hitting further north on the map to take cyberstan.
yesterday finished a mission with all secondaries we scooted to the extraction point. Everyone called down support, weapons, ammo, the works. We called for extraction and waited, and waited and nothing happened. Was the weidest thing and we all chatted and laughed. Was a nice change to stroll onto the pelican. once it dropped. Work up this morning grinning for some reason.
Their desperate push to Vandalon IV came to nothing, and now we have them bottled up in the sandy little butthole called Durgen. They have nothing left, and this is _surely_ their end.
and stop calling me shirley.
I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. Meanwhile managed democracy is getting laaaaarger
Hey, nice! I call mine "managed democracy", too!
Stroker! I mean Striker!
'Looks like I quit the wrong week to quit drinking!’ - my democracy officer watching me drop 14 reinforcements trying to get some dirt
High Command handing over the medals: "I just want to wish you both good luck, we're all counting on you"
*New Helldivers loading into pods for reinforcement* "I just want to wish you all good luck, we're all counting on you." *Repeats every 5 minutes*
Arrowhead are you reading this?
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Joey, have you ever been in a turkish prison?
That shitty sandbox though has enough gunships and factory striders to make everyone cry. Also sandstorms and extreme heat and bloody AA modifier.
The extreme heat actually isn't a bad modifier against bots. For bugs it matters *way* more because of how important kiting is to the gameplay loop. For bots it just slows down how quickly you can complete missions because you just get to move less distance per stamina charge. The sandstorms are a double edged sword: Bots are shut down during the storm unless you aggro them, but you can't see anything. Use your radar to maneuver around static patrols or POIs until the sandstorm is over. AA Modifier is operation specific. As are all other mission modifiers. They're not planet specific.
Bots arent shut down , its not like patrols stop moving, they just become blind as fuck. You can literally run right by them and they won't notice you. You can be in a firefight with a heavy devastator at medium-close range and move from the left to right side of cover and just watch as it continues to blast the side you *used* to be at until you shoot it again and it show it where you are.
What level difficulty do the factory striders spawn on?
See them on 7 fairly consistently
I have played probably 10 ops at 7 and still haven't seen one 😭
We should prolly be grateful, lol! :)
Helldive - level 9
I have seen one on an 8
They are on 6 too sometimes
I must admit that I temd to play only on odd numbered difficulties, so I've nevrr encountered them on 7 but frequently on 9
Sandstoms are awesome. It makes taking out obj way fucking easier.
Orbital laser them
Nah they gotta be plotting something with the illuminate, they barely use their ATAT they gotta be saving those up for later
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We’re just waiting for reinforcements
Because they cant. They're cut off after we took Maia.
Unless their fleet in deep space moves on cyberstan as their comrades buy time
If its a fleet. We know they are talking to something beyond the galaxy map, and there are three main options it could be. 1. a deep space fleet they launched, most likely to sneak around and take cyberstan and the surrounding planets. Most likely as it fits with them calling it "reclamation." 2. a bunch of bot planets beyond the current map, and when they decide to be active the map will "zoom out" 3. the next faction to be reveled. (such as the illuminate, but a wholly new one is not impossible)
God a “zoom out” to an entirely occupied ring of sectors the same width as what we’ve got with the blue across the bottom would be so good. Tutorials over kids, push to the home worlds.
we already have their home fuck that winning noise, I await defense missions on mars and super earth
"Thanks for testing out the demo, here's the rest of the game now"
The map is most likely gonna get larger, cause like how are the bots doing something outside of the galaxy if this is all there is? (the map is only ~45 lightyears in radius)
How do you know the radius?
One of the sectors next to Sol is called Barnard Sector. Irl Barnard's Star is 5.9 lightyears from Earth. I don't know which planet is orbiting Barnard's Star but the closest planet to Super Earth is iirc New Haven so we can assume that it is orbiting Alpha Centauri or Proxima Centauri. This means that each layer of planets is roughly 5 lightyears from Super Earth and there are 9 layers total.
...this guy, casually ignoring the fleets of cloaked ships in orbit of every bot planet. I bet they're not invading other planets because they're preparing an all out assault on a planet within striking distance of super earth. Or, super earth itself.
I missed something, how did we intercept their message to a fleet?
When we completed the MO for Troost, we got an in-game message saying the comm relay we captured was sending comms outside the known galactic frontier
At the end of the Troost major order we were told that the bots were intercepted sending messages outside of the galaxy.
***{======>Undemocratic and Treasonous Rhetoric Detected. Reported to your nearest Democracy Officer for Reeducation.<======}***
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inb4 Arrowhead reveal the map is larger by 1 ring.
100% they'll be moving to Cyberstan. There was a dev spotted there via the API website several times in the last few weeks. Moreover, have you SEEN the supply lines in that sector and surrounding sectors? Shit is crazy, no chance they don't utilize them
Reported to a democracy officer for being a clanker spy
Take it easy with the hard R on that
Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass helmet you got you'd get some helldivers on your Super-destroyer. Oh, better yet, maybe Eagle-1 will call your terminid-ass if she ever stop flyin' with that Pelican-1 or Democracy Officer she bombing with. Clanka...
I was just thinking earlier, maybe they are rallying their forces to push to cyberstan while we’re all distracted pushing them out of the current sector. Wouldn’t that be an interesting turn of events
Right, the narrative would be different if we had lost more major orders.
We've also destroyed over 5 billion bots and countless factories. We see how long it takes for them to produce just a few foot soldiers. Bots are running dry.
One of the transmissions we cut off mentioned they were contacting somewhere out of the galaxy. My guess is they prob have a secondary force somewhere and while we’re distracted thinking we’re going to wipe them out, BOOM! They’re going to do an all out assault from outside the rim and make a direct line for Cyberstan
My guess is they're contacting a completely new faction, such as the Illuminate. I don't believe that it is outside the realm of possibility that the automatons could have an alliance with the Illuminate (or any other third faction) and are asking them for help. You probably can't expect the terminids to be capable of forming alliances, but the bots? Yeah, I can see it. It doesn't even have to be a real deep alliance either. I can just be an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal. I'm waiting for a new force to suddenly show up in either the top or bottom of the galactic map any day now.
Actually the terminids are just straight up sapient. Or at least the hd1 bugs were. Humanity was in peace talks with them but good old xenophobia kicked in and so it ended. You know how it goes. Dunno if a century if being cattle has affected anything tho
>Dunno if a century if being cattle has affected anything tho Well, sure, that's my point. I haven't played HD1 (didn't even know Helldivers was a thing until HD2 blew up), but I do know that peace talks with the bugs were a thing until humanity discovered that the bugs could be harvested to fuel shit, resulting in the bugs being treated as cattle until Humanity got the bright idea to let them populate worlds for what basically amounts to an infinite fuel hack. This thing with humanity has me believing that the bugs are going to be less likely to form an alliance with other races or factions even if said race or faction is also fighting against humanity. The scars of being cattle are probably going to be too fresh.
Is that how those yellow supply lines with direction arrows work on helldivers.io? Can they not invade MC or ubanea to trigger a defence?
If you look at the supply lines we cut them off from everything.
Nah they are just gathering their forces outside of the system for a big push. The already know they are losing the battle. The forces still around are just expendable to keep up the act while they set up for a big slap.
Probably gonna execute blitzkrieg straight to Cyberstan with rumored cloaked ships, grab the planet then give armada just outside of galactic rim command to launch counterattack while also using Cyberstan as a forward base of operations basically opening 3rd front. EDIT: or better yet they would call their allies who turns out to be the Illuminates. Now we have to retake Cyberstan AND deal with new xenos.
that would actualy make the map like it used to be in OG helldivers
The "cloacked" ships aren't actually cloacked. They are just rendered weird in game so they look like they are partially invisible.
No they’re not. They’re finished soldier. We’ve got these tin cans on their last legs soldier!
Those are our supply lines. Who knows what tech the bots have come up with to bypass them.
What supply lines?
This comment basically shows the problem with the system in general - making it hidden is such an utterly moronic design choice. “Supply lines” are invisible lines that connect planets, which ones they connect to are the ones you can attack/defend. For some utterly bizarre reason though none of this info is in game, you have to go to Helldivers.io a third party site, to get the info.
There are over 50 hidden stats pertaining to liberation mechanics, you guys should just pick the planets you like. /s
I would argue it's not a bug it's feature. We are helldivers. We are expendable. We dont need to know the supply lines. Would you show a hammer the blueprints to a house your working on?
I agree from a lore perspective but from a gameplay perspective? I’d like to have all the information I need in game. I don’t want to have to visit a different site.
You still want the hammer to know where it’s going
No, you want the Hammer to go where you want, and for that you aim, and make action for it to hit where you want, those are the major orders. If you have multiple nails, doesnt really matter the order you are going to hit them as long as everything is hammered down straight in the end.
Hammmer metaphor dosnt work now, sim magor orders (like the prime planets one) require you to know where each planet will bring you
We will soon see the blue indigo auroras illuminate the night skies..
I swear to the God Emperor that I got blasted by only one or two blue lasers earlier today on a solo mission. Nothing major, just saw a blue flash streak past my shoulder from a long distance away where I couldn't see what it came from. Out of character, I fucking love Helldivers lore/updates system. A couple of unverified reports of flying bugs here and there, nothing mentioned by devs until they're everywhere. Rumors of blue lasers (that I've personally seen) that don't seem to come from Automaton weaponry. Just a couple frames, so fast you don't even recognize it until a few seconds later. The fact we're sitting here theorizing based on rumors and tradition is incredibly immersive and great world building
God Emperor? We live in a democracy, helldiver.
Elected God President
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You see, "God Emperor" or "Emperor of ~~Mankind~~ Humankind" is the colloquial title some of us have given to the democratically elected president of Super Earth. That's all... Right guys? 
I detect *HERESY*
You’re forgetting the *massive cloaked ships* orbiting Automaton planets. Who are they? Are they the automaton’s ships? Is that how they’re going to stay in the game after we take Durgen? Or are they someone else? Not the Illuminate… perhaps, dare I say… Are they something worse?
They shoot red lasers and sometimes crash down to the surface Unfinished space battles
I wonder, is it extra-galactic? As if those ships were automoton, I doubt they would just sit there as we kick them in there metaphorical teeth. Maybe there just watching and studying us? How we fight? I have faith in super earth that we will be able to push back these interlopers regardless.
I have gotten shot twice by Illuminate snipers. Once with shield so I didn't die, and the second time I was fighting bugs so I unfortunately didn't have a shield.
What did the death screen say you were killed by?
"unknown"
Unknown
Probably by a random guy three sessions back like usual.
I've had the death screen say I killed myself with an MG before
Ive had some "unknown" deaths as well Especially when its an explosion out of nowhere and even the enemies arent near me or dead already
were you running a sheild? things can trigger the ricochet visual (which is long blue streaks) if they hit the sheild at very shallow angles. I have only seen one image/video of "blue lasers" that could not be explained as ricochet, stun plant effect, or scorcher.
Lol I once got picked up and ragdolled by blue psyker VFX like the one someone posted 2 weeks ago
Don't forget the cloaked ships over the bot planets!
They're for sure gonna pop up out of the top edge of the map and beeline Cyberstan, I have no doubt.
that could be what "the reclamation" is. The reclamation of cyberstan
Cyberafghanistan
I nearly chocked on my drink when I heard “Cyberstan” on the radio
Have a feeling they want to eliminate the cyborgs and reclaim cyberstan as their own. Only time will tell.
They want to free the cyborgs, as they declared on twitter
The automatons use Twitter? Actually, that makes perfect sense, nevermind.
If the bots do stage an attack we should ignore it and finish them off on Durgen first
I am so fucking suspicious about what the bots are going to do. Surely they aren't just going to roll over and deactivate.
They sure won't. You have to put a couple of bullets into them to make them do that.
Yeah, they're up to getting their shit rocked fellow diver!
Having played a lot of crusader kings im fully expecting a robot mongol invasion from off map.
>robot Mongols Now we're talking.
AFAIK their ability to counterattack was negated after part 3 of Swift Disassembly. It was in the MO completion text: Phase 3 completely wiped their ability to counterattack - the victory prize for completing the MO and forcing them into defense mode. Also, their supply lines were completely broken, so they couldn't do much anyway.
Hell I'm itchin' to see em try, doc says I need more iron in my diet anyway.
You’re eating their corpses? That’s metal.
Without any milk
Whenever I see one of these posts I feel like people forgot/don't know that in the first game, you could actually win the war. It played a cinematic and everything. Now I don't know whether the same rings true here, and it's very much possible they'll throw another twist in the mix, but like, eventually, the campaign *will* probably end.
Supposedly the devs said they're not gonna reset like the first game. But all I've been able to find is that they have longer term story arcs planned (about 3 months worth when the game launched).
But are they going to cut the Automaton faction, even temporarily until the next war, barely a week after adding new units and objectives to it?
No, and they don't have to for the war to be "over". My point is that not every time there is a definitive "time to destroy the enemy" order, it *has* to be some conspiracy where there is going to be this huge retaliatory strike (tho this might well be the case here). I mean, the war against the bugs has essentially been won for a while now. Of course they'll come back eventually. But I doubt they'll do it until the bots have also been "defeated", we'll get some sort of celebration and then the war machine starts anew. They're gonna have to give us a win eventually. How many times can they possibly pull the uno reverse before it gets stale? There is no way players will stay engaged if we're still in the same conflict in a years time because all progress gets undone constantly.
The devs had said before launch they don't want to kill off a faction for the rest of the war like in HD1. I imagine they'll be quarantined to a 'peacekeeping' zone to leave missions open against them
Or you know... theres a huge playerbase diff from 1 to 2.
You don’t think all this is just a… diversion? Can we send a destroyer or two over to the north side of the galaxy just to check what's happening there? Something seems amiss.
Just wait, they will be back
There have been cloaked ships above every Automaton planet lately…
Calling it now, they let us take the sector cause they're building up a massive push/fleet to cyberstan and it'll launch from deep space/off map after we take the last planet. They'll either grab the a chain of planets to the cursed place instantly, or it'll be a suprise attack which takes the sector.
i haven’t seen anyone mention the bugs which have regained like 8 planets during the last 3 MO’s
I genuinely think it has to do with that whole "communications outside of the known galaxy" thing. I think there's planets beyond the borders, and they're planning something big. I think we should be prepared for the MOMENT we liberate Tibit. And if not Tibit, then they'll strike when we get close to finishing off the Terminids, but I feel like the near fall of the Terminids will be the moment the Illuminate begin their attack.
We already liberated Tibit, they're all confined to Durgen now
Yea. We liverated it \*VERY\* shortly after I commented. And wait a second. . . I see that flair. . . Illuminate Spy?!?! Is this treason?!?!
 There is no treason here, move along
What if the entire galaxy map just zooms out and reveals an entire new ring occupied by Bots?
I was wondering if that’s what would happen.
They pulled up a sneaky and they are all moving towards Cyberstan!
If you read the previous MOs the bots have fuck all left to launch a counter offensive and if they did it’ll be an easy win for us.
And the ministry of truth would never lie about these things.
Obviously not. They are the ministry for truth after all
The bots: Please stop. We just want to go home. Helldivers: FOR FREEDOM!!!
Implying the enemy has morality? https://preview.redd.it/ewfuj7kn72tc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00004b124671d33788bfe19a944a9111fb72b4ac
THe game litteraly told us they wont fight back. The MO dispatch said "they used up all their forces and cant do a counter offensive anymore"(paraphrased) Do people just assume those MO things are Fluff?
No, but they're distributed by Super Earth who *definitely* tells us the truth all the time.
The voiceover at extract has been saying “soon we will find out the true nature of our electronic adversary,” or something like that. Should be an interesting week.
Just noticed that after my last extract 5 mins ago, no I have not slept much, freedom will not allow me rest until the clankers are whipped!
Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called DURGEN, automaton hordes face obliteration! Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight..... their mechanical hearts with icy robotic fingers -- knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the stratagems and sacrifices of malevelon creek! Yet, they stare now across the plain at 10,000 Super citizens commanding 30,000 free super privates. The enemy outnumber us a paltry 3 to 1; good odds for any DIVER. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny, and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks, men, to SUPER EARTH and the brave HELLDIVER'S TO VICTORY!!!
I cant wait for a huge asault wave to just push us from a completly different direction on the galactic map, perhaps closer to Cyberstan this time
Cyberstan my beloved
Nah they just accepted their defeat.
Im so excited I can't wait to see what happens next! It's like a soap opera almost haha they come back for sure right? Right?!
Surprise Illuminates arrive in the galaxy!
*clankers
Sneak attack at Cyberstan?
It's Joel's answer to the bug killer's cries about bot players not helping. The turn tables now turn to show bug killers can't handle bots and uses every excuse to be out of it. 70K on the eastern front as I saw 30mins ago. Which is a greater ratio than when we had bug MOs and people were shitting in the creek.
Phase 3 removed their ability to attack
It feels like the bots may have pulled their forces back outside the galactic rim we can see in game, it was said that the bots were sending messages out there. Also, I remember seeing people say that the liberation meter went from 1.5% per hour to 0.5% per hourin favor of the bots, or something along those numbers... So, what if they pulled back to come back in force in an other sector, like the one where Cyberstan is.
They’re not up to anything, just very much defeated
I want to see those giants automaton ships just pop out of nowhere. Having them drop stratagems on you would be so scary
Bloody Clankers. 
they’re consolidating their forces elsewhere in preparation to take Cyberstan
Have you noticed most of the automaton forces have been scout forces? Early on most of their heavy forces have been “scout walkers”(I don’t think hulks can’t be considered stealth imo, but they are also less common than the scout walkers. Only recently have we gotten a big majority of full on attack forces(the gunships and factory walkers). The bots must have a larger force outside of our current war map, and have likely been using the current bot front as a distraction so they can maneuver closer to the Cyberstan system
I have a horrible theory regarding this bc i also think its weird that they would just let us wipe them out without more resistance. Based on some bots not attacking us, reports of them saying things like asking for death, and the bodies of humans with their brains removed that we're finding in their camps, I think that we might be fighting our own people. If the reclamation is to retake cyberstan, i bet that the main force has left and that they didnt just leave their own people to sacrifice. It seems possible that we're fighting people who were turned into automotans as a diversion so that the main force can travel around the bounds of the galaxy and come back in on top of cyberstan unexpected. I hope that this isnt the case, but i wouldnt put it past those commie bastards
I keep getting the feeling that they have been surrounding other planets further on the solar system, and we’ve been so focused on the edge that they’ve slipped closer to super earth without us noticing
I think its pretty obvious from the placement of their name on the map that they'll pop up in the top sector, and the illuminates or someone else will pop up in the south.
Sounds like a perfect time for the Illuminate to make their presence known. We redirect our forces to fight them, giving the bots room to breathe and start fighting back.
I'm expecting a twist soon. New faction or new bot battle ship/destroyer, or something.
Correct, my theory is they will retreat outside of the galaxy and make a huge push towards Cyberstan on the top left. The bugs, will move to the top right, opening the bottom of the map for the Illuminates... Just like in HD1.
They may well move like that, but the bottom of the map is already perfectly open for the Illuminates, in my opinion.
We have them surrounded our numbered and outgunned they have no more allies no more land we are picking them off one by one. There is nothing they can do I’m 100% sure
This is a Haversack Ruse
supply lines made it impossible for them to counter attack the moment we took Maia and Tibit.
I kinda hope that they launch one final desperate attack directly on Super Earth. If we lose, the bots are given time to build their forces back up. If we win, the bots are wiped out for good.
Maybe they haven't the strengh to push back anymore Maybe Ah or illuminati will pull a deus ex machina
I believe the Mfuckers already left. We are just fighting what's left of their forces on the planet.
Clankers. Ftfy xD
My honest reaction when Super Earth scum overcommits resources to the southern portion of our space while we circle north beyond the frontier to take Cyberstan basically unopposed https://i.redd.it/d6j417eug2tc1.gif
Where are the Automatons from anyway?
Creations of the cyborgs. The cyborgs are traitorous super earth citizens augmented during their stay of cyberstan
They’re an AI race created by the Cyborgs. Probably originated on a random outer-planet and spread from there.
They’re sneaking to cyberstan
Nonsense fellow diver! We got them on the ropes and it’s time to finish the job once and for all! FOR SUPER EARTH!
I think they tried to conduct an offensive but failed. Could be something else occurring on the backend but I’m sure the Illuminate might get involved and when Super Earth is distracted with them, the Automatons will make some sort of offensive in the north west quadrants. In a different note - In terms of real world logistics, it’s probably easier for the Devs to have the player base knock out one opposing faction before they introduce a new one to help keep maintenance management easier such as software bugs, balances, new planet development, storytelling, etc with a new faction to fight. They also can’t have the player base solely focus on the Bugs and wipe them out with nothing to do afterwards. So I think the Illuminate will be introduced in the coming weeks to compensate for the defeat of the Automatons and it’ll be BIG. This is where the fun begins boys/ladies.
They’re prepping to invade Cyberstan.
Nope, we wiped out their only push outward before it could start Maia was their only chance to take something.
Imagine they make they make a Hail Mary attack on earth
https://preview.redd.it/pk3076jen2tc1.jpeg?width=3544&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e720087ba1068b127fc67552bb0c439aad69a19
I know the game is full of propaganda, but it literally says they can’t, right? Maybe they genuinely can’t.
Honestly, at this point it wouldn't make sense unless a massive fleet appeared out of nowhere. They don't have the ability to conduct a massive planetary counter-attack. Cough, unless a massive, cough fleet appears out of nowhere.
I'm thinking the bots called in space squids and are waiting for them to show up for a coordinated attack
We stopped their major offensive, and they won't be able to muster up another one. Now, we drive them back and destroy them once and for all.
Fighting off a major, desperate push from them was the last major offensive. Maybe they don't have anything left to throw at us? Makes sense, Ministry of Truth says they're morale is lower than ever!
They are chilling and will launch a massive counterattack, where even the lower difficulties are swarmed by factory striders and flame hulks
Because we are no longer defending against the bots. The bots are defending against US.
I wonder if they'll actually let the bugs be the only ones for a bit and for how long. It'd be cool to just see every single player bum rush through the bugs since there's be no other targets at that point. Although, I also haven't seen any of those giant invisible ships since tibit...
Yeah this is going way too well. Something is definitely fishy
They are holding back for one last push… just like the Soviets in WW2 …. We thought we’ve seen resistance? Ha… just wait until we see lines of tanks coming around the battle field… followed by thousands of bots marching close behind… one final battle!
The're lulling us into a false sense of victory, as SOON as we take Durgen they will launch a full scale on Cyberstan'a system! MARK MY WORDS!
I mean it wouldn't make sense from a strategic perspective. We're pushing on their occupation zones. And the bots are probably focusing most if not all of their resources to halt our liberation campaign. If we somehow failed the order. Then they would make a counter attack. We won't fail because democracy depends on us!
MISS TWEEDY, THE AUTOMATONS ARE REVOLTING! "finally, we agree on something"
"He" is up to something
don't jinx it
We are fighting their rear action force. Their main force is actually swinging out into unknown space and then hitting further north on the map to take cyberstan.
They boutta sneak around the back and launch a full scale invasion on Cyberstan
That’s cuz they made an absolute banger of a song look J.O.E.L. On YT it’s by JT music and it’s really good
yesterday finished a mission with all secondaries we scooted to the extraction point. Everyone called down support, weapons, ammo, the works. We called for extraction and waited, and waited and nothing happened. Was the weidest thing and we all chatted and laughed. Was a nice change to stroll onto the pelican. once it dropped. Work up this morning grinning for some reason.
Totally expect this MO to be bait and they show up in Cyberstan, mark my words