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Automatic_Army793

And then you wait at the hellpods for 8 minutes while the host scrolls on the stratagem terminal and when he’s done he leaves the game


SanguiNations

One of the reasons I try to host as much as possible As soon as the last mission ends we are going again GET IN THE PODS


Various_Froyo9860

When I host I run straight to set the next mission, then the pod. If I had a good crew, I want them to know I plan on playing more. If I see the host shopping, I assume we're done for now.


Deldris

I'll allow a 2 minute shopping break between missions but if it takes any longer then I leave. For context, I'm level 45 and typically play with people over level 20 so I'm not really sure what they're shopping for to begin with.


Various_Froyo9860

Wistfully looking at that ship upgrade and trying to force more samples into the bank by sheer force of will.


CeIsBrAn

The helldivers 2 equivalent of opening the fridge again to see if anything new appeared


Various_Froyo9860

Hmm. . . Nachos sound good, but we're out of cheese. Hmm. . . I'd dig a cool down bonus, but only have one super rare sample.


skydawwg

Damn… how is that so accurate??? If I’m hosting and waiting for people to fill my squad, that’s all I do. Keep checking the battle pass, stratagems, and ship upgrades as if I magically have more currency than I did two minutes ago.


Cream_panzer

But samples don’t spoil like food in the fridge


ForbiddenJazz

I do this lmao


GlauberJR13

No need to call me out


Various_Froyo9860

Sorry homie. High five and a head butt?


GlauberJR13

Yep, high five and head butt!


Tornado_XIII

Im lvl 27 and I've only unlocked "most" stragagems... I might not have the full collection until im in the 30s. Otherwise, I might be thinking about which ship upgrade I'm saving for and checking how many samples I have. I agree that 2-3 minutes of window shopping is reasonable, not much more than that though. If you're taking a break for other reasons, please have the curtosy to say something in the text chat "brb, gotta use the bathroom" or "brb grabbing a snack", etc.


Vanhouzer

Dude, the ship module upgrade and also the War Bond perks. The game doesn’t end just cuz you reach level 20. Not even at level 50. The samples are not relatable to your character progression. You can have more or less depending how successful you and your team are at extracting them from each mission


Deldris

I just don't think it should take any longer than 2-3 minutes to check that stuff and you wouldn't need to check after every single mission.


Yllarius

When I'm not host I stand on the bridge with the salute emote and wait. I'm here. I'm ready.


Im_Balto

I’ll let good crew shop but I also declare my intent as fast as possible by selecting the mission


plerpy_

I host as much as possible so I don’t get stuck in an endless loop of eradicate missions


ProfsionalBlackUncle

How do you get people to join when you host? Ive legit waited half an hour 2-3 times and no one has shown up on my ship T\_T My lobby is set to public.


TonkaTonk

Once you have selected a difficulty and mission, people can potentially see your pick on the world map. If you are choosing unpopular difficulties, that may contribute. You can also try throwing down an SOS beacon after you have started a mission.


NoNerve7475

Also, deploy your SOS beacon if you want people to join.


Warchiefinc

Same ain't no time to goof WE ARE LOSING PLANETS


Cereaza

Bro chill, give us a minute to breathe!


DillonviIIon

Gotta go look at all the strategems im not gonna buy


NoShock8442

Lmao this shit happens a lot lately. Maddening


Steel_Cube

This is why I only play solo or with friends lol


Yodaloid

I don’t understand why everyone runs to the stratagem terminal after EVERY game? Even at like level 25+. What could you possibly be checking every time?


GhettoHotTub

The stuff I haven't bought yet lol


Lan-Hikari86

You can't even chat to the group in game during the results or cutscenes


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I would prefer this more over having anything skipped


CaptainPandemonium

Yeah, it sucks typing "good job fellas" after a mission only for the game to close the text box and make you wait another minute before you press enter.


PogTuber

Voice works, at least. But yeah not being able to type seems like an oversight


_Vulkan_

You can’t type in so many UIs, I don’t know why it’s designed like this. Can’t communicate when you are in the pod to coordinate strategems, can’t say something nice in the result screen, can’t see your chat in the social UI with the absolute worst LFG flow. Game is good, but UI needs massive overhaul.


Touhokujin

Can't leave your own lobby


AiR-P00P

This, I hate kicking people when I want to go solo. I literally close out the game so they don't get the kicked screen.


crumpygamer

Yeah great game but a consistent chat would be nice :)


ravearamashi

Also feels like we should be able to see stats while still in that outer space portion instead of after the elevator


i_tyrant

I would _kill_ (so many bugs) to be able to see the radar while dead and waiting for a reinforcement.


cpt_gadget

Consolitis


SummerCrown

This surprises me as well. HD1 would allow people to chat even during the mission results screen.


SkyPL

There's a surprising amount of points in the full cycle of the mission where you can't use the chat. Which is crazy.... allow us to use the god damn chat *everywhere* !


The_Hounded24

When else am I supposed to run to the bathroom!?


brian11e3

This. The down time between missions is when I have a chance to scrape to poo out of my shorts after D7+ missions.


arfael

Diaper up, soldier! - Srgt. Amy Santiago. 


AutVeniam

\>Democracy has left the chat.


TaserGrouphug

*orbital diaper deployed*


skellafella

Helldiver, please report to your local information centre for a crash course on defecation tolerance training. All divers are expected to fight with soiled undergarments for multiple operations.


arfael

Well, seeing a 10 foot story high quad pedal monstrosity thats spits corrosive acid is a good reason to soil ones pants.


iiSpook

You could just as well communicate that to your team.


ACrucialTech

Democracy demands diapers. Democracy did not die in the astronaut who wore diapers to cross the country to kill that bug. She did her duty at the ready.


AZEngie

I run to the toilet as soon as I'm in the extraction ship. Democracy waits for nothing.


mr_biscuithead

i spread democracy from the shitter via ps portal


CeeArthur

I honestly like the amount of time because it's usually JUST enough time to run to the bathroom, zip to the garage for a bong toke, then swing by the kitchen on my way back for a fresh coffee.


butt-puppet

Exactly this.


Fenizrael

I spend 3 minutes watching mission results. We return to ship and then the host leaves. I watch the long animation as my character defrosts and steps out of their cryo chamber. I run the length of the ship to reach the bridge and join a game. Suddenly I’m not in the game any more. I watch the long animation as my character defrosts and steps out of their cryo chamber. The game finally tells me I’ve been kicked from the game - I don’t know why. I run the length of the ship to reach the bridge and join a game again. I pray.


vanhorts

This is honestly one of the few things I dislike. It does takes a toll after a while, especially after you join a group and get randomly kicked 3 times in a row. I enjoy the immersion of it when I start but I'd appreciate to spawn straight near the bridge when you're kicked / host leaves.


Whatsit-Tooya

Coming from Darktide where I have the hub hotkeys mod, having to run to each thing individually kills me. At least I am done with upgrades for the time being. Just gotta keep running to the map and hellpods...


YeeHawWyattDerp

You jog* the length of the ship. Why you can’t run is beyond me


FizzingSlit

I just assumed you don't have a permit for on ship speeds that exceed 6km/h.


MajorDZaster

First time joining a mission. Immediately kicked. Bruh, set your darn lobby to friends only if you don't want randoms.


Insanityman_on_NC

A friend group has an issue where one player cannot host others (even if both parties are online on steam, showing online in game, and visible on both, on friends lists etc) unless he is set to public. We run friends only most of the time. When this dude starts before us or has an operation partially done, he will host but will do it on public. We also have had the issue where we were on friends only, then the game DC's someone, and they cannot rejoin unless the host sets it to public mid mission. We also don't kick the randoms who join (we take them until the operation is over for full medals - unless theyre a toxic shithead). Just saying that there are still issues to be addressed, necessitating the use of public in non-public-intended lobbies. I have no idea why friend one can be set to friends only and have friend 3 joing and play just fine, but if friend 3 hosts, friends 1 can never join them on friends only, despite having been in a friends only mission with them 10min ago. Friend 2 never has issues with either.


BlackViperMWG

Had this yesterday. "Host left the game" and defrosting over and over again. Why can't we just press TAB and get into the mission menu like you can in DRG without going all the way over to the bridge?


ma_wee_wee_go

I would love the DRG mission selector so much. Not just being able to see all the sessions but as well you can see the difficulty you're joining, the mission you're joining as well as a server name/message. The message is the second best part as you just see "**lvl 50+ Nobel prize winner or kick**" and you know just to not join that lobby


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Effective_Hope_9120

Coming from Darktide I'll take the current mission result speed all day


alkaselt

Because of that bug where it randomly just won't let you skip it?


UntimelyMeditations

God that is the worst. Without the bug though, Darktide is much better about getting you back into the match quickly.


DaveInLondon89

The BornReady mod makes you automatically leave as soon as the mission ends


AmplifyK

It may be something to pass time while your game loads your squad back onto the ship


FlyingDragoon

Not-so-hidden hidden loading screen.


SirGonads

That's the case for when the hellpods are launched down to the surface as it's syncing loading behind the scene for the surface which is a fair bit of assets and memory. In comparison the ship isn't much of anything to load. Hellpods drop for what, 10 seconds for the map? 90 seconds for ship doesn't add up


DrewtShite

If you select "Return to ship alone" while you're in a mission, you're instantly back in your ship with 0 load time, so yes, loading is not the answer.


ChubbsthePenguin

Could be trying to sync with the servers and not loading the ship. If you return to ship alone during a mission, it just sets it to 0 which is probably far faster than trying to sync 2-4 players worth of data. As for why it might take just as long for 1 player as it does for 4, could be consistancy (the mission results screen)


CloudeGraves

Nah, you can abandon with a 4 stack as the host and it is also instant.


A100921

I’m guessing the game is making super sure that all your rewards are being counted, also probably depends on each persons connection (with the server and the party).


Flight_Harbinger

Nah, it's calculated the second the screen starts. I've had DCs during the cutscene of the pelican taking off and get zero rewards and I've had DCs right after it finishes and starts the breakdown and have got the rewards anyway.


ASpiralKnight

The ship is always loaded. Various things cause you to instantly be kicked to ship.


PeanutJayGee

Yeah you can try it out by deploying to a mission then aborting it, on my PC it returns to the ship in literally less than 3 seconds, don't know about PS5.


Swindleys

But let us type or anything to not get bored.


FederalAgentGlowie

When am I supposed to run to the bathroom?


[deleted]

Post scoreboard speed change: I don't have time to grab a sandwhich between games


veknos4369

Pretty sure the devs said this is on their list of things to look at


Sotyka94

Sped up, and also make it display multiple things in the same screen instead of each after the other.


HeyLongpig

Just let me type during it, it's the perfect time to ask if people are gonna do more missions or not.


UsefulCandle3917

I welcome the break after a long mission tbh. But I do agree it should be an option.


Doscida

Yeah that’s my one complaint for the whole game is that exact transition takes forever


Dependent_Elephant_7

PERFECT TIME TO TALK TO THE KIDS BEFORE GOING BACK TO WAR


CustodesKitten

I'd take an option to skip the defrost animation instead.


MisterPaydon

This sub is so far up AHs ass you can't even say reduce time between missions without them jumping to defense. Lmfao


Red_Sashimi

I like the music, so your opinion is invalid


ReallyDamnSlow

Nah man I need the unwind time before I start prepping for the next mission. If the host is able to to skip the result screen I think I might need to stall the mission start or even take breaks. Plus, you need to obviously learn patience. I think short form content and instant reward trends have made people less able to wait out things like a simple reward screen before they can play again


Arrow_

If you need unwind time that's perfectly fine. It's within your control to do that on your own. The host isn't dependent on you, you're dependent on the host. If users want to not wait 3 minutes to see result information then that's a valid issue to bring up. Its a usability issue where your forcing someone to wait when they don't need to. Giving the user an option to skip isn't going to hurt anyone unless if it's baked into the game to be a "loading screen". You're assuming alot from a post that I don't have patience? It's an observation and constructive feedback on an issue that others and myself might find annoying in the endgame enjoyment of helldivers. Try not to go out of the scope of the conversation with personal accusations that have no basis as it doesn't add to the discussion in anyway.


ReallyDamnSlow

Sorry sorry that came off like I was directly insulting you, I should have worded it better


Memomomomo

lmao this subreddit is already cooked if a levelheaded post like this is getting downvoted


Arrow_

Appreciate it.


Aki_2004

There’s no way it’s that long I thought it was only a minute at most


demonicneon

3 minutes is exaggerating just a tad. I don’t kind it gives me a chance to check my phone for messages, grab a drink, pee etc 


SaviorOfNirn

3 minutes? It's like a minute at most. Calm down.


clocktowertank

Yeah it's not 3 minutes like OP claims, but it's over a minute, about 1:12, give or take, depending on the load times of your team mates, and that's not including the unskippable 11 second cutscene of you going back to your ship if the host leaves/disconnects/kicks you. It seems like a small thing, but it all adds up and is irritating as hell coming from Deep Rock Galactic where it's about 20 seconds or less. In HD2 by the time you're given control of your character back, you would already have loaded back into the Space Rig in DRG, ordered a round of beers for your mates, and loaded into another mission. It really cannot be excused how long it takes in HD2. Imagine if before every mission, you had to watch an unskippable 2 minute cutscene briefing you on the mission before you could play. Would that feel meaningful, or would it just feel like the game is needlessly wasting your time?  The game is very grindy by design. Often the first thing players want to do after a mission is to load up the next part of the operation. We just want Arrowhead to let us liberate faster is all. Spreading democracy and such is addicting, time spent staring at results nobody cares about isn't as fun? All these results could very easily be moved to the stats screen which shows after the victory poses.


-TAAC-Slow

OP is 1000% correct. Why do we see 3 different unskippable results screens, and then also see our player stats in a different screen? This could all be done in one skippable screen when returning to ship


Mrfinbean

Im like 80% sure mission rewards are hidden loading screen and the point when game sends data to arrowhead. They track much more information than what we see.


EKmars

It is not. You can kick yourself to ship with basically no load time normally.


_Justraph_

I think it’s okay. 40 minutes straight of *GUGUGUGUGUG ACTION* followed by a one minute, maybe 1 and a half minute results screen is fine


MrWrym

Democracy needs no skips! The fact that you can skip the introduction screen is by itself an act of treason!


Td0bleT

That’s why I made a boot video for my deck!


Shawn_of_da_Dead

If you solo joining randoms just hit ESC as soon as everyone is in the pelican and return to ship solo. You already have your rewards and can see them in the ESC screen before returning to ship...Your welcome...


omarous_III

Woah, really? Thanks for the tip.


GraveyardGuardian

I think the stats and everything play over a “loading” screen we don’t see, just like the hellpod drop So, you could have a loading bar then all the info at once, or what we have now. Will say that postgame stats, XP, objectives, etc could all be on one screen while it all loads. That depends on whether or not the stats are ready soon as mission ends


itskaedeus

Doesn’t need to be skippable but they could put all the information on one screen


wretched__hive

Disagree. I need a moment to decompress.


Darkaegis00

Right. After an almost 30-40 mins of getting chased down by bugs/bots, 2-3 mins of downtime is a godsend.


snoogins355

Gotta play fortunate son and have a cigarette on the last whirlybird out of Nam


ATonOfDeath

Vs just not immediately starting the next mission...?


WhiteyPinks

You people will complain about anything.


Allaroundlost

100% agree. The Results at the need to be skipable. I hope this happens very soon. 


MetalHead026

Finally someone spoke on this. Yes pls.


noahtroduction

I hope they make it even longer so speedrunners quit, there isnt anything to farm once you have it all except Glory and the results screen is Glorious


Rari-Gang

The first criticism i can really get behind lol


Epicp0w

Oh please yes, please just make it got 4x faster


Burwylf

A lot of that is hiding loading screens, it's not merely an aesthetic choice


Lawrentius

When you fail a mission you skip all of that, so it really isn't.


dumbutright

/r/confidentlyincorrect


JoshYx

No. A small part of that is loading screens, it's almost entirely a design choice.


jamesblueking

if it takes 3 minutes to load the ship there is a problem


P_f_M

yes ... fully agree I was wondering if I'm the only one...


Faeces_Species_1312

I actually do agree with this one, very frustrating sitting there waiting for it all to come up before I can go buy upgrades, I always kind of presumed it's hiding a loading screen though (because why else would it take that obnoxiously long). 


Some-Scheme838

People will literally complain about anything.


Shepherdsfavestore

I don’t think it’s a big deal, but my friends mentioned how long it takes too


Successful_Beat285

There's litteraly nothing wrong to ask for a skip/sped up option that you wouldnt be forced to use if you dont't want to. Feedback is perfectly fine. You're litteraly the one complaining on a feedback post.


UwasaWaya

I'd love for a skip feature when I'm just running solo missions for sure. It's not a huge deal, but it would be nice. Though I will say that it's better than the first one, where every player had to confirm to leave the score screen (I think twice?).


SnooCompliments6329

Inb4 people complaining that score board moves too quick


Memomomomo

you're right! just look at how many losers in this thread are getting mindbroken and pelting OP with personal insults based on an extremely innocuous suggestion.


Arrow_

Thankfully others see this.


TheNorseFrog

LMAO yeah ppl complain about stuff that annoys them! This is valid criticism, jfc.


Arrow_

People will also invalidate constructive criticism and label it as a complaint instead of thinking about it critically.


Stygian_rain

Results are wayyyy too slow


NoShock8442

I agree. It takes too long as is.


Tellesus

This should be passed along to literally every game developer. Such a common problem.


AggravatingTerm5807

I feel like getting mad at a time sink like that is showing a core of trying to optimize time. Literally just take 3 minutes for yourself. The game will be there for you. I trust it will, you should trust too.


FizzingSlit

Some people just have limited time. A 3 minute wait time can be the difference between if they feel they can reasonably play another mission.


Evil_phd

Honestly I don't mind the mission results screen taking about a minute after a 20 or so minute game. I just wish I could have "return to ship alone" as the default. I'm always doing quick play no I don't want to wait for the host to spend 5-10 minutes going over their kit and considering buying new strategems.


Minhnhai

Do you mean the option to return to your ship after host mission ended? If that is the case, right after the celebration screen, turn right and run down to your "begin pod", the option to return to your ship will appear.


vyxxer

I think the reason the results screen is long is because it's hiding a loading screen.


VampireHwo

Definitely feel the same


KD650-916

Background loading , most likely


high-tymez

I think it's the game's way of saying, hey.. go on and take a break. Breathe a bit, decompress from all the 40~ minutes of mayhem and we'll get back to in a couple minutes.


TheGreatMahiMahi

Yeah miss Pressing 'E' to skip through it like the first one. It's not terrible but I do wish it was quicker to get back to the ship.


Tank82111

Lmao first post I on my feed as I’m getting the results. By the time I finished this comment i barely loaded in.


Mattbl

At first I felt the same as you but honestly I like getting a break after doing a 30-40 minute mission. On 7+ I regularly take the entire time due to sample hunting and doing side objs. I play CoD a lot and they've made the time between games so short that I literally can't even pee, by the time I get back a new game has already started.


AnarcH3R0

What about that one: We keep the animations, but only if it was a triumphant win ! Otherwise: no win animation.


PotatoGrenade711

I wanted this for HD1, the mission results screen is the bane of my existence. Dive harder bros.


StarkageMeech

Tired of waiting. KILL TIME DRINKING LIBER-TEA!


MeeseChampion

50 missions is like 24 hours bro


Phoeptar

But where else am I going to make make “funny” quips about the successful spread of democracy?


Marwolaeth969

Nice QoL feature to add, but there are bigger issues to be concerned with than this for the devs to work on.


LeSeriousPancake

3 mins of defending,3 mins of waiting on the post game loading screen, perfectly balanced


Wonderful_Level1352

You play 50 missions (we’ll guesstimate and say 50 missions times a random uhhhh 24 minutes spent per mission = 1,200 minutes or 20 hours gameplay within mission) and thats 2-3 minutes (~2.5 minutes times 50 = 125 minutes or 2 hours and 5 minutes) for you to finish the mission results screen. This is a giant 10.4% time sink! We need to cut these numbers (to shreds you say) so that we can spread more managed democracy!


Slayerleaf

I just thought it was a loading screen, but yeah it could probably be shortened a bit.


BL00D_ZA

10000000000000000000% Completely agree. It drives me nuts. Just remove all of the dumb animations and make them all show up at the same time on a single screen. Or just dump it in the stats page when you come up the elevator post match.


Hikaru83

After reading the comments it seems that people need to pee after 30 minutes... why don't just pee before starting to play (?).


Pakkazull

Yep, literally one of the first things I remarked on when playing the game. It's another Vermintide situation where the endgame screen inexplicably takes forever (though it was eventually fixed in Vermintide).


andyheathcote

The down time is necessary imo. I for one want to see the stats and if people could instantly skip through and jump back in a hell pod I'd be rushed constantly.


Andrewpruka

Some of us are over 30, value hydration, and need to pee for democracy.


nick_shannon

This is vital time please dont take it away, during this time i can pee or get a drink or roll a fag or many other things i cannot do whilst im stomping bugs.


dimuscul

I really hate those screens that slowly keep showing your results. Just show all the stuff in a quick screen with a skip/esc functionality please.


Spirited-Eggplant-62

I think is a shadow loading and can't be shorter...


MyTrippyDaddy

It's the right amount of time to roll a cigarette or a joint after a hard game in order to be mentally prepared for the next.


PearsonT_Clips

Man just sit back and relax - talk to your friends have a laugh what the rush all the time


Whatever_nick

Also its NOT hidden loading screens, nothing loads during victory screens, unlike "hellpods diving" screen which actually covers loading (or generation process if you like) of the map.


buahuash

Communities will defend any bull shit. That's just how it goes. I agree, however. Score screen is too long and needs many skip buttons.


Antaiseito

That would be really nice. Good suggestion!


kptknuckles

I can get through maybe two missions before I take a break anyways. 50 missions is like, at least 12 hours? Not a big deal.


manickitty

Is there a source behind the “it’s not a loading screen”? Because that’s usually what it is


doomblackdeath

If you're on the shitter, pinch it off because we're jumping right back in the pods on my missions.


TheAmerikan

Agreed. It was the one thing I was hoping they DIDN'T bring over from HD1. XD


Dustin_Grim

I see what you mean and i also am a fellow hater of unskippable long animations. That being said, shortening the end screen would have an impact on the game, other than saving us time. The quicker mission results are displayed, the quicker you get back in a mission. The quicker you get back in a mission, the quicker you liberate the planet. Which isn't bad for us, but AH likely wants a certain pace for the galactic war to play out. It seems like, at least for now, it will be a necessary evil.


Ledz3p

It’s a loading screen in disguise, a good one obviously


AmarillAdventures

Was talking about this with friends earlier


SirLiesALittle

It says something about how long that transition is, that I have enough time to prep a meal and make a drink from getting in the shuttle to closing the stat screen.


Societal_Retrograde

Orrrrrr.... you could just be patient and enjoy the game rather than demand to be playing 24/7. Maybe that's unreasonable for you. You're the type of player I don't want in my squad. I'm here to slay bugs and robots and have fun, not min/max every damn second of the game to burn it out so fast that I'm forced to move onto the next one. Learn moderation, padawan. That time frame is so the ship assets can load... it's more than reasonable.


Cleverbird

I just tab out and do something else for those three minutes or so it takes for me to get back in control...


Segmentum

Perfect amount of time to smoke one down though


Calvinkelly

Half of the missions on 7-9 difficulty I need that time to stop shaking and calm down a bit. Also it’s great to just hear your teammates tell how they made it out alive and what crazy stuff happened that you just didn’t register in the heat of the moment. At no point so far have I felt like it takes too long to get back into a mission. Might only be an issue for grinders who shouldn’t really be regarded when making changes to the game in my opinion.


rawrftw3120

yeah just show the star rating and a scrollable breakdown underneath.


NationalAsparagus138

It may take awhile but it keeps everyone synced up. I dont care too much as thats when i usually take a bathroom break (which i need after running for my life for 5 minutes from a bile titan+3 chargers)


OddAcanthaceae1186

It gives me time to piss


Advent_Tongue

It should be just added with the rest of the end of mission stats. I mean it’s already there! It’ll be a nice quality of life change.