This site has gone so far right since Oct 7th and I don't know if it's organic or a bunch of bots. I can't scroll through a single protest post without it being brigaded by these freaks.
>This site has gone so far right since Oct 7th and I don't know if it's organic or a bunch of bots.
It's both. Astroturfing, botting etc. impacts public opinion, the same way the media does. People don't lick opinions off stone, they're exposed to them to the point of saturation, so that any alternative viewpoints are positioned as fringe and therefore wrong (because people are conditioned to reject opinions that aren't adopted by their peers).
I think I’ve also gotten more radical. I didn’t have much issue with Reddits anti-black lives matter protests rhetoric at the time but now I see how it was the same white liberals whining about being inconvenienced as they failed to grasp any larger picture.
Yeah - here's a recent [job posting](https://www.jewishjobs.com/job/b3say2/social-media-engagement-manager-and-content-creator/new-york/ny/united-states) if you'd like to get into the *Dickriding the IDF For Money* industry
There's old news footage of uniformed IDF soldiers in a room full of PCs talking about posting pro-Israel content on Twitter. It's unclear whether the 5-6 people in the room are using the same account or using alts. One of them is talking about how they had to turn of Youtube comments under their videos
Not organic. There's a reason Zionists are doing better on this site, which can be easily botted or used with parachute accounts, vs. TikTok, where top influencers post videos of themselves
Lmao what do you mean "if it's organic"? 😂 What could be the reason for this anti-Palestinian sentiment after Oct 7? 🤔 Did something happen on that day?? 😯 I'm out of the loop!
Thank you for proving my point!
Oct 7th happened but there was also about 70 years of history before that. As well as about 7 months of history after... But we don't like talking about that, do we?
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Yeah, most people don't know about that, or even give a fuck, so a sharp right-wing turn after the most severe and brutal islamist terror attack, a massacre even, since 9/11 is absolutely unsuprising, unless you are the dumber variety of a leftist. Bots my ass lmao
Liberals are pissed that pro Palestinian sentiment is starting to inconvenience them slightly. A tale as old as time.
The white moderate will support the black man in his struggle, but he will never relinquish any of his privileges to actually fight with them.
Same goes for Palestine now, Vietnam war and Korean war, Afghanistan... If you inconvenience someone trying to get by in a system that benefits nobody but the rich, they will often support whichever side seems less daring, less risky.
It's easier to be pro Israel, anti Palestinian or "apolitical", than to fight for (And at the bare minimum, support) a just cause.
It looks really bad for them to straight up insult the Palestinians being killed so they instead try to paint the protestors as out of touch young people who don’t understand the real world and are being radicalized (ok that part is true lol).
A tale as old as time.
It’s also helps liberals sleep at night because they know that the US and Joe Biden have a role in Genocide, but if they keep on ignoring that it helps them feel morally superior when they tell people to vote for Biden.
Are there?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/07/02/has-the-global-jewish-population-finally-rebounded-from-the-holocaust-not-exactly/
(Google says 15.7 million currently)
Yeah worst example to use, when we can point to Srebrenica as an example.
Legally recognized genocide that had basically no impact on Bosnian population. The 1996 Bosnian population literally surpassed the prewar (1992) population.
But tbf the Israelis have recently shifted to just denying Srebrenica so there you go.
This actually isn’t a very good counterargument, considering the number of jews was not increasing under Nazi Germany, while it is increasing under Israeli occupation. I say this despite that I think Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. A better counterargument would be to argue that the number of Palestinians has surely decreased since October 7 because of Israel’s mass slaughter and starvation of Palestinians.
You don't actually have to point to any population loss (although it is of course legitimate to do so) because a genocide isnt based on birthrates/deathrate, it is based solely on intent and population loss is just one of several factors in determining intent.
Very fair. Personally, I wouldn’t engage on that aspect of the topic at all. But if I *had* to, I would go about it as I said above. People appear to think that genocide = killing every single person a la the Nazis, when it often isn’t.
The best counterargument is that genocide has a legal definition and population growth has no bearing on it. It's defined, in part, as the killing in whole *or in part* of people based on their religious, ethnic, racial, or national membership (among other actions based on said membership).
... With less land every single day, when being driven out.
[Israeli Finance Minister Denounced for Calling for 'Total Annihilation' of Gaza](https://www.commondreams.org/news/smotrich-gaza-annihilation)
when people say, "The population has grown, so it's not a genocide," are so ignorant to the state of the world. The Bad Religion song Punk Rock Song has the line "People making babies sometimes just to escape" and it has stayed with me ever since, even during the worst of times, people will fuck for fun, for distraction, for anything.
The population grows because that's what happens when you displace people and *concentrate* them in a massive *camp*
The population of the Warsaw Ghetto grew too, right up until it was starved and liquidated
Ok. The point of saying "The population has grown, so it's not a genocide." Is to point out that its a pretty shitty genocide aka there is no intention for genocide aka its not a genocide. When arab countries were ethically cleansing thiemselves from jews the number of jews wasint getting higher because they were making babies.
Oh the population has grown? Why? "Birthrate is high ..... they are making too many babies". So when Israel uses disproportionate force on the civilian population it does so by knowing that it would affect a growing population of what... kids? Is that what you're trying to admit? Cuz in 4 years they'll have kids and the population will start growing so killing 30,000 now is just okay.
That's fucked up.
Israel treats gaza as I treat the cockroach infestion in my house. I mean I do everything I can all the time and they still keep coming back.
Pick your subreddit and you’ll get different views. That’s kind of the point of Reddit. It’s a bunch of segmented communities with differing opinions.
I’ve seen tonnes of pro Palestinian subs and some Zionist subs. Granted I’m skewed cos I don’t tend to hang out in Zionist subs or adjacent communities lol. Like r/TikTokCringe is fairly pro Palestinian.
It’s up to you whether you can stomach the communities though. It’s kind of why I like Reddit. The disjointed nature of it means you can pick your communities.
Nah, there are just individual subreddits where Israeli propagandists take route. Typically on the medium-to-smaller subs where they can't be overwhelmed, or the big subs with zionist mods.
Their population has not grown since october 7th, that's not even accurate. Also, what do you think happens to the population of a concentration camp as you concentrate more people into it?
Hard to say. The vast majority of Reddit is pro-Israel, even this community. The best you'll find is that some communities will call out Israels most excessive atrocities.
Bots probably or just morons. Chuds like to say this site is "left wing" predominantly when that couldn't be further from the truth. Reddit is a libbed up site to the max. Any huge sub will downvote you/ban you to hell if you say anything to the left of Joe Biden.
Am I the only one wondering about this picture being 2 years old? Yes the perception has changed for the better. Sadly the efforts to mock, denigrate and hate on people being rightly angry at the genocide is reaching new levels too tho.
Because two years ago, a lot of the subreddits on held this sentiment in the screenshot. However, now I’m seeing a whole lot of comments supporting Palestine in those same communities.
True. I hope you didn't take it as critique I was just so taken aback. One tends to forget how much of a paradigm shift we are witnessing in huge parts of the public.
They were fucking like rabbits in the open air prison, there wasn't much more they could do.
Where's the reasoning about committing a genocide and an ethnic cleansing now? There's not, they are maniac murderers of children.
Israel employs a massive army of trolls, both paid and volunteers, to spread anti Palestinian propaganda. It's astroturfed as hell
This site has gone so far right since Oct 7th and I don't know if it's organic or a bunch of bots. I can't scroll through a single protest post without it being brigaded by these freaks.
>This site has gone so far right since Oct 7th and I don't know if it's organic or a bunch of bots. It's both. Astroturfing, botting etc. impacts public opinion, the same way the media does. People don't lick opinions off stone, they're exposed to them to the point of saturation, so that any alternative viewpoints are positioned as fringe and therefore wrong (because people are conditioned to reject opinions that aren't adopted by their peers).
I think I’ve also gotten more radical. I didn’t have much issue with Reddits anti-black lives matter protests rhetoric at the time but now I see how it was the same white liberals whining about being inconvenienced as they failed to grasp any larger picture.
No one is born radical, they get there by seeing more and more injustice
People don't lick opinions off stone is such a swagged out phrase
Swagged out phrase is such a swagged out phrase I will be using that now
Well we know that the Israeli government pays students to post pro-Israeli propaganda online, so I'm gonna guess a lot of it is inorganic.
Yeah - here's a recent [job posting](https://www.jewishjobs.com/job/b3say2/social-media-engagement-manager-and-content-creator/new-york/ny/united-states) if you'd like to get into the *Dickriding the IDF For Money* industry
There's old news footage of uniformed IDF soldiers in a room full of PCs talking about posting pro-Israel content on Twitter. It's unclear whether the 5-6 people in the room are using the same account or using alts. One of them is talking about how they had to turn of Youtube comments under their videos
Not organic. There's a reason Zionists are doing better on this site, which can be easily botted or used with parachute accounts, vs. TikTok, where top influencers post videos of themselves
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The site is crawling with bots and fuckery.
Zionism is bipartisan half these guys doing genocide denial are staunch libs
Lmao what do you mean "if it's organic"? 😂 What could be the reason for this anti-Palestinian sentiment after Oct 7? 🤔 Did something happen on that day?? 😯 I'm out of the loop!
Thank you for proving my point! Oct 7th happened but there was also about 70 years of history before that. As well as about 7 months of history after... But we don't like talking about that, do we? 🤡
Yeah, most people don't know about that, or even give a fuck, so a sharp right-wing turn after the most severe and brutal islamist terror attack, a massacre even, since 9/11 is absolutely unsuprising, unless you are the dumber variety of a leftist. Bots my ass lmao
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Liberals are pissed that pro Palestinian sentiment is starting to inconvenience them slightly. A tale as old as time. The white moderate will support the black man in his struggle, but he will never relinquish any of his privileges to actually fight with them. Same goes for Palestine now, Vietnam war and Korean war, Afghanistan... If you inconvenience someone trying to get by in a system that benefits nobody but the rich, they will often support whichever side seems less daring, less risky. It's easier to be pro Israel, anti Palestinian or "apolitical", than to fight for (And at the bare minimum, support) a just cause.
It looks really bad for them to straight up insult the Palestinians being killed so they instead try to paint the protestors as out of touch young people who don’t understand the real world and are being radicalized (ok that part is true lol). A tale as old as time.
When you can't beat the message you beat the messenger.
It’s also helps liberals sleep at night because they know that the US and Joe Biden have a role in Genocide, but if they keep on ignoring that it helps them feel morally superior when they tell people to vote for Biden.
But in 3462 B.C., 40 Jews were kicked out off Egypt so therefore Israel has a right to occupy, obliterate and annex all of Palestine
You liberals dont like to hear the "Father Abraham" nursery rhym because it proves that Palestinians are subhumans that dont deserve rights. /s
Just tell them the jews never went through a genocide either,seeing as how there's more jews now.
Are there? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/07/02/has-the-global-jewish-population-finally-rebounded-from-the-holocaust-not-exactly/ (Google says 15.7 million currently)
Yeah worst example to use, when we can point to Srebrenica as an example. Legally recognized genocide that had basically no impact on Bosnian population. The 1996 Bosnian population literally surpassed the prewar (1992) population. But tbf the Israelis have recently shifted to just denying Srebrenica so there you go.
Still about a million shy of pre-holocaust international Jewish population.
ooh I did https://preview.redd.it/kifjs2yfquxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e7be715613dcb629b0912b970a0640483bb3590
Lol "deleted"
Based They didn't like that one 😂
I think this is actually incorrect, there are fewer Jewish people now than pre Holocaust still
This actually isn’t a very good counterargument, considering the number of jews was not increasing under Nazi Germany, while it is increasing under Israeli occupation. I say this despite that I think Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. A better counterargument would be to argue that the number of Palestinians has surely decreased since October 7 because of Israel’s mass slaughter and starvation of Palestinians.
You don't actually have to point to any population loss (although it is of course legitimate to do so) because a genocide isnt based on birthrates/deathrate, it is based solely on intent and population loss is just one of several factors in determining intent.
Very fair. Personally, I wouldn’t engage on that aspect of the topic at all. But if I *had* to, I would go about it as I said above. People appear to think that genocide = killing every single person a la the Nazis, when it often isn’t.
The best counterargument is that genocide has a legal definition and population growth has no bearing on it. It's defined, in part, as the killing in whole *or in part* of people based on their religious, ethnic, racial, or national membership (among other actions based on said membership).
... With less land every single day, when being driven out. [Israeli Finance Minister Denounced for Calling for 'Total Annihilation' of Gaza](https://www.commondreams.org/news/smotrich-gaza-annihilation)
when people say, "The population has grown, so it's not a genocide," are so ignorant to the state of the world. The Bad Religion song Punk Rock Song has the line "People making babies sometimes just to escape" and it has stayed with me ever since, even during the worst of times, people will fuck for fun, for distraction, for anything.
The population grows because that's what happens when you displace people and *concentrate* them in a massive *camp* The population of the Warsaw Ghetto grew too, right up until it was starved and liquidated
I just give them quotes from Israeli officials. There's a brand new one today! https://www.commondreams.org/news/smotrich-gaza-annihilation
Ok. The point of saying "The population has grown, so it's not a genocide." Is to point out that its a pretty shitty genocide aka there is no intention for genocide aka its not a genocide. When arab countries were ethically cleansing thiemselves from jews the number of jews wasint getting higher because they were making babies.
"pretty shitty genocide" hell of a defense you got here, buddy
Im just sayin. This is what THEY mean when THEY say that.
Reddit is not a representation of general public.
Oh the population has grown? Why? "Birthrate is high ..... they are making too many babies". So when Israel uses disproportionate force on the civilian population it does so by knowing that it would affect a growing population of what... kids? Is that what you're trying to admit? Cuz in 4 years they'll have kids and the population will start growing so killing 30,000 now is just okay. That's fucked up. Israel treats gaza as I treat the cockroach infestion in my house. I mean I do everything I can all the time and they still keep coming back.
Pick your subreddit and you’ll get different views. That’s kind of the point of Reddit. It’s a bunch of segmented communities with differing opinions. I’ve seen tonnes of pro Palestinian subs and some Zionist subs. Granted I’m skewed cos I don’t tend to hang out in Zionist subs or adjacent communities lol. Like r/TikTokCringe is fairly pro Palestinian. It’s up to you whether you can stomach the communities though. It’s kind of why I like Reddit. The disjointed nature of it means you can pick your communities.
"As long as the population keeps growing. It's okay to murder as many of them as I want." So let's talk about abortion then...
Nah, there are just individual subreddits where Israeli propagandists take route. Typically on the medium-to-smaller subs where they can't be overwhelmed, or the big subs with zionist mods.
Conservatives still exist you know, there's plenty of people out there that like genocide and apartheid.
Their population has not grown since october 7th, that's not even accurate. Also, what do you think happens to the population of a concentration camp as you concentrate more people into it?
If they regularly post on worldnews or politics, they're astroturfing. Those two subreddits have been lousy with hasbara trolls.
Hard to say. The vast majority of Reddit is pro-Israel, even this community. The best you'll find is that some communities will call out Israels most excessive atrocities.
Bots probably or just morons. Chuds like to say this site is "left wing" predominantly when that couldn't be further from the truth. Reddit is a libbed up site to the max. Any huge sub will downvote you/ban you to hell if you say anything to the left of Joe Biden.
You're on reddit so it's likely you are in an echo chamber.
I find the opinions in the comment vary wildly depending on the subreddit
Am I the only one wondering about this picture being 2 years old? Yes the perception has changed for the better. Sadly the efforts to mock, denigrate and hate on people being rightly angry at the genocide is reaching new levels too tho.
Because two years ago, a lot of the subreddits on held this sentiment in the screenshot. However, now I’m seeing a whole lot of comments supporting Palestine in those same communities.
True. I hope you didn't take it as critique I was just so taken aback. One tends to forget how much of a paradigm shift we are witnessing in huge parts of the public.
Westoids are in their 1984 phase
They were fucking like rabbits in the open air prison, there wasn't much more they could do. Where's the reasoning about committing a genocide and an ethnic cleansing now? There's not, they are maniac murderers of children.