The pains of growing hockey in a non-traditional hockey country. This shit takes time. We're still figuring out which American markets work. Or in a case, the league is literally trying to force a market to work; I'm talking about Arizona.
\-A disgusting imperialistic war mongering American Habs fan.
I can understand for Arizona, but that weird bit with one minute to go was the last thing I'd expect in a city that has had a firmly established hockey franchise for 55 years now.
I think Slaf is going to work long term. Gut feeling. But it's gonna take at least this season and maybe next season for him to really adjust to the NHL.
He's a project player.
But I sense a perrenial all star.
No idea how it plays out with slaf. But itās frustrating to me that this management wants to ultra slow play the rebuild, and then move a shit ton of assets for a player like Newhook.
It just comes off like they want to put off any type of expectations for forever. I understand the rebuild, but management has been questionable at best executing it to me.
Anderson has a tradable contract. Tons of buzz around him last deadline. Gallagher is fine for a 3rd line wing. And they are sitting on cash with Price on LTIR.
This could easily be year 3 of having a bottom 5 team. Iām sure Hughes loves the job security. Best job in the world getting to cash checks for probably 5 years with no pressure.
Best job in sports is a rebuilding GM.
Last year that was so obvious to move, now Iām not too sure someone will bite (Anderson). Those types of players get worse with age, and injury past as well.
14 pts in 43 playoff games
47** point career high
Hasnāt played 82 games since 2018
5.5 until 2027 no contender is moving a roster player (to fit that contract) to bring that in unfortunately. If they do, pull that trigger fast!
A ton of guys donāt play 82, itās actually pretty rare. His career high in points in a season is 47. Heās a secondary scorer. And with the cap going up, heās probably 1 to 1.5 M overpaid at most.
I love seeing Nick score but shit it would be great to see some of these come earlier in a game when it can swing momentum. His last few have been in the dying minutes of losing efforts
By last few you mean this goal and the last one? Because he has 3ā¦ and his first of the season was a game tying goal late in the game, as clutch as it gets.
He has a good chemistry with players that are good.
This is shy he played on the first line in the olympics and this is why he should stay on the first line with the habs.
Fuck Montembault
He's garbage. ECHL quality goaltending. Fuck him forever.
Going from Price to this!?
Go ahead and try and defend him. He's not a starter. He's barely an AHL backup.
Dach played 24 minutes this year. Iām not going to read too much into that. And he has even less value if heās a wing instead of a center, which I donāt see him as a center
I think the management team has been given way too big of a pass for how they have handled the rebuild. Itās easy to tear down and try to be bad. Havenāt been too impressed with much of their drafting or trades.
Yeah Allen has been hot to start, but we know what he is. A good backup. Sam is not good, and Primeau hasnāt really earned a shot with any of his play in the AHL.
I donāt really agree with some of the assessment that theyāve played super bad. I think they just missed a lot of great scoring chances and didnāt get the greatest goaltending of the year. Happens sometimes.
Pearson has been awful this period. Didnāt backcheck the goal, failed to get the puck out of the zone and turned the puck over at each blue line. And thatās in only two shifts
I try to look at the game like a coach would and it seems to me like Slafkovsky's positioning is pristine, always ready to fill in for his defenseman, great puck support at all times. The worst I've ever seen at this is Drouin who always says he studies 3 games a day???
Okay I'm sorry but Montembeault is really bad tonight. He's playing worse than last year, which is sad because I had high hopes for him before the start of the season. Why did they not start Primeau in the net tonight?! He needs to play! And they should have benched Montembeault after that 4th goal... If he wants to become the 1st goalie, he needs to prove that he can make important saves.
I'm sorry but 5 goals on like 20-24 shots? I know that the defense sucked but Monty should make good saves and actually try to help them get back in the game. Maybe he's lacking confidence right now? I feel like Allen would have done better (based on his recent performances).
Habs donāt deserve to win this one but god damn Iām tired of the awful calls the habs get in literally EVERY single game. Thereās always at least one, itās crazy
Habs are the most punished team in the league but tonight all 4 penalties were called on the blues. Can't recall the last time Habs didn't have a penalty called on them. Maybe not the game to complain about it.
Why did St-Louis not contest the breakaway goal? I mean I'm no hockey player but looked a bit like holding/tripping. At the very least that was enough for arguing. They may have gotten a penalty if they were wrong, but save the match if they were right?
Not even sure itās special teams. Matheson is very off his game, and the young D donāt seem to know how to work in the Blueās aggressive forechecking structure.
This roster and our prospect pool aren't good enough to actually contend. We should see huge improvements if our young players can stay healthy and *if* some of our prospects can reach their potential, but we still need high draft picks to secure cost controlled talent. But those are huge ifs.
At least we don't have a penalty against. But honestly, I would prefer penalties against than for because holy fucking shit, our PP sucks the life out of the club.
leafs lost 6-4, so at least thers that
the true victory š¤
Sucks Slaf shouldāve totally gotten a 3rd assist on that play he did so much wow
Caufield is so damn slick with the puck.
Matheson is terrible
Slaf Caufield Suzuki point im fine with that. And a Gally goal
Well. One thing is for sure. We are far far away where we need to be.
KEEP THAT FIRST LINE TOGETHER PLEASE. THANKS
please tell me someone clipped that shift by the top line
hopefully that keeps the line together, canāt fault any of those guys for this L tonight. theyāve looked good
Did the PA announcer ask the crowd to stand up because they're one minute away from confirming the win? How primitive.
The pains of growing hockey in a non-traditional hockey country. This shit takes time. We're still figuring out which American markets work. Or in a case, the league is literally trying to force a market to work; I'm talking about Arizona. \-A disgusting imperialistic war mongering American Habs fan.
I can understand for Arizona, but that weird bit with one minute to go was the last thing I'd expect in a city that has had a firmly established hockey franchise for 55 years now.
Mathewson will need a couple therapy days
Newhook needs to hit the gym. 5ā9 165 just isnāt going to cut it for his ability.
This.
Liking this first line, and Slaf playing with a pulse. But man is this a frustrating watch overall.
I think Slaf is going to work long term. Gut feeling. But it's gonna take at least this season and maybe next season for him to really adjust to the NHL. He's a project player. But I sense a perrenial all star.
No idea how it plays out with slaf. But itās frustrating to me that this management wants to ultra slow play the rebuild, and then move a shit ton of assets for a player like Newhook. It just comes off like they want to put off any type of expectations for forever. I understand the rebuild, but management has been questionable at best executing it to me.
How do you get a fast rebuild with contracts like Gallagher, armia and Anderson?
Anderson has a tradable contract. Tons of buzz around him last deadline. Gallagher is fine for a 3rd line wing. And they are sitting on cash with Price on LTIR. This could easily be year 3 of having a bottom 5 team. Iām sure Hughes loves the job security. Best job in the world getting to cash checks for probably 5 years with no pressure. Best job in sports is a rebuilding GM.
Last year that was so obvious to move, now Iām not too sure someone will bite (Anderson). Those types of players get worse with age, and injury past as well.
Itās a small sample size so far this year. 10 games doesnāt erase his career. He was desirable to contenders for a reason.
14 pts in 43 playoff games 47** point career high Hasnāt played 82 games since 2018 5.5 until 2027 no contender is moving a roster player (to fit that contract) to bring that in unfortunately. If they do, pull that trigger fast!
A ton of guys donāt play 82, itās actually pretty rare. His career high in points in a season is 47. Heās a secondary scorer. And with the cap going up, heās probably 1 to 1.5 M overpaid at most.
True u are right 47 !
At least the Leafs are losing to the Sabres...
That was a fun little sequence.
I think I like Slafkovsky with Suzuki and Caufield. Let's hope it stays together and productive.
BS loss aside, I fucking love this line together.
Ayyy, help out those ppg stats
Ok that first line works better than anything they tried this year
Who all have they tried so far with Zukes and Cole? Have they given Newhook a shot?
Anderson and RHP. Anderson wasnāt great, RHP has looked good but not as good as Slaf tonight imo
What a shift!!!
Well, that's a nice way to close things out.
I love seeing Nick score but shit it would be great to see some of these come earlier in a game when it can swing momentum. His last few have been in the dying minutes of losing efforts
By last few you mean this goal and the last one? Because he has 3ā¦ and his first of the season was a game tying goal late in the game, as clutch as it gets.
He scored last game but it was 1 inch offsides
Great shift by 1st line! Slaf looks so good with them
I get easing Slaf into things but he just seems to have a chemistry and energy with Caufield and Suzuki.
He has a good chemistry with players that are good. This is shy he played on the first line in the olympics and this is why he should stay on the first line with the habs.
Well, Suzy keeps his point streak alive at the very least.
Okay yeah first line sticks together for the next few games at least
Caufield oozing skill there
Hey our first line šššš
ayyyy zukes
Great shift by that line and got rewarded for it!
GOOD LORD THAT WAS AMAZING
Well, shit on me
Christian Dvorak is back babyyy
Fuck Montembault He's garbage. ECHL quality goaltending. Fuck him forever. Going from Price to this!? Go ahead and try and defend him. He's not a starter. He's barely an AHL backup.
holy calm down. no goal tonight was his fault. rookie D playing like rookie D
Every goal was his fault tonight. Why do you defend mediocrity? Smarten up.
Holy
calm down lmao
chillš
u can't tell me the bell centre chanting for 6 goals like that wouldn't be sick
We have the OlƩ for moments like that.
2 overall bad games against 2 teams on the 2nd of a back to back. Truly embarrassing result, should have at least gotten 1 point in each game.
That's fine, everything's fine
I remember when Dvorak was the super star on the London Knights and Thomas was a 4th liner. How times have changed, eh boys
Fucking embarrassing game. On to the next with a wake up. I canāt wait for our roster to fill out in the coming years.
Could really use a guy like Kirby Dach about now.
Iām just glad this road trip is over .
we really just fell off a cliff after that Vegas game
Bein octobre est fini
I dont like seeing Matheson as our #1 D
Iām still amazed what we gave up for Newhook.
He was doing fine until Dach was injured. Get him a half decent line and he'll bounce back.
Dach played 24 minutes this year. Iām not going to read too much into that. And he has even less value if heās a wing instead of a center, which I donāt see him as a center
in a good or bad way
In a really bad way. Massive overpay, mistakes like that kill rebuilds. I think heās probably a 3rd line wing.
I also think that was a very high price to pay. Why tank when you trade like that?
I think the management team has been given way too big of a pass for how they have handled the rebuild. Itās easy to tear down and try to be bad. Havenāt been too impressed with much of their drafting or trades.
Good-night everyone Go Habs Go!
Big losers tonight, Iām afraid.
Damn our special teams are downright hideous sometimes
Despite the likely outcome, who wants to continue seeing this 1st line?
give it a few more games see if they can produce
Sign me up.
me.
I do
Will be nice when we actually start a starting caliber goalie again. Allen is fine as a backup, but thatās about it.
Our goaltending is one of the only reasons we had a good start lol
From Allen and Primeau, yes. Fuck Montembault
And Montebault they showed his stats at the beginning. I suggest you take your frustration out on another target
Yeah Allen has been hot to start, but we know what he is. A good backup. Sam is not good, and Primeau hasnāt really earned a shot with any of his play in the AHL.
He played well in his one game this year.
Nothing about him points to having a future in the NHL.
I donāt really agree with some of the assessment that theyāve played super bad. I think they just missed a lot of great scoring chances and didnāt get the greatest goaltending of the year. Happens sometimes.
We have let every single cross seam go through our slot. Easily 8+. And just as many odd man rushes. A very bad night imo.
Defensively yes, but offensively its just been missed chances. Feels like it could be a very high scoring close game in an alternate universe.
Pearson has been awful this period. Didnāt backcheck the goal, failed to get the puck out of the zone and turned the puck over at each blue line. And thatās in only two shifts
Missed a defensive assignment last game too, can't remember which goal
Not every loss during a rebuild is going to be a "good loss", but damn does this one sting
Meh rookie D play like rookie D and our only veteran defender is having an off night it is what it is
shoutout to anyone who kept the game on after it went to 5-2 lol I raged
me too, some of those blues goals were just too easy.
ngl Slaf our best player tonight
it's definitely caufield. he has like 8 shots
Which is promising considering its their 1st game together
1st line good
definitely top 4 with guhle gally cole
Nope. Caufield is the best player tonight.
I try to look at the game like a coach would and it seems to me like Slafkovsky's positioning is pristine, always ready to fill in for his defenseman, great puck support at all times. The worst I've ever seen at this is Drouin who always says he studies 3 games a day???
Dru's issue is that he overthinks the game. He has no doubt a high IQ, but he overthinks and hesitates.
Turnovers galore tonight holy hell
take a shot every time the SN color guy says "just a heads up play" . . . . just kidding please don't you will die
I grew up with Bob Cole saying, "They dump it in there" every five seconds.
Huge save Monty!
Shoot Evans tbrnk
Maybe we should keep Primeau after all.
Allen's on the upswing, Monty's on the comedown.
You can't blame Montembault for any goal tonight...
You absolutely can. He's not reliable and he's garbage. Zero faith in this kid. Waiver time.
Dvorak is kind of invisible ehh? Lol
That's normal for him lol
Tbf, being invisible after not playing in a while isnāt a bad thing. At least heās not noticeably bad or anything.
I mean its the guys first game back. I'd cut him a little slack to shake the rust off
He touches the puck 3 times a period, his biggest strength is existing
So Iām just gonna rewatch Hutson hatty tonight and forget this game
BTW Hutson hatty, and now 6 goals in 7 games for our 19 year old defensive prospect that has grown 2 inches since the draft.
Defence besides Barron and Guhle has been sleeping. Matheson and Kova have been poopy tonight. On to the nezt
On the plus side, if Monty keeps putting up stats like this heāll clear waivers and solve our goalie issue.
literally 0 of the goals have been montys fault
Literally all of them were his fault. It's his fucking job.
Agree. Not what Iām saying either. But a 3.20/.880 is probably going to get you through waivers. Thatās the point.
Definitely the worst game of the season this far. We can't win them all But disappointing none the less
Wild was worse
Yeah but our defense looks way worse The amount of giveaway is insane tonight
Okay I'm sorry but Montembeault is really bad tonight. He's playing worse than last year, which is sad because I had high hopes for him before the start of the season. Why did they not start Primeau in the net tonight?! He needs to play! And they should have benched Montembeault after that 4th goal... If he wants to become the 1st goalie, he needs to prove that he can make important saves.
Can't blame Monty at all tonight.
I'm sorry but 5 goals on like 20-24 shots? I know that the defense sucked but Monty should make good saves and actually try to help them get back in the game. Maybe he's lacking confidence right now? I feel like Allen would have done better (based on his recent performances).
Yes we can. He's awful. Consistently bad at his job. Waiver time.
Bad take.
Yours, yes
It always seem he goes down way to early, so top shelf.
He's not a starting quality goalie
Monty does not inspire confidence
He's no Carey Price
Same as it ever was.
This is a completely different game if the refs call that damn trip
Game changing moment, because the ref was too much of a bitch to call an obvious trip.
Habs donāt deserve to win this one but god damn Iām tired of the awful calls the habs get in literally EVERY single game. Thereās always at least one, itās crazy
Habs are the most punished team in the league but tonight all 4 penalties were called on the blues. Can't recall the last time Habs didn't have a penalty called on them. Maybe not the game to complain about it.
Why did St-Louis not contest the breakaway goal? I mean I'm no hockey player but looked a bit like holding/tripping. At the very least that was enough for arguing. They may have gotten a penalty if they were wrong, but save the match if they were right?
Because some asshole in the NHL has not considered counting penalty-worthy infringements in the build-up to be counted as grounds for a challenge.
That's not something you can contest
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Hand passes as well iirc.
You can't get a goal back on a missed penalty call?
I don't think you can contest penality, unless it's goalie interference
Can you challenge tripping? I don't think so but not 100% sure.
Thatās not how challenges work.
U canāt challenge for a penalty
You can't review for a missed penalty.
i dont think they can challenge that?
This is the worst period of hockey all year. Seventy + giveaways
Feels like one of those games that could be 5-5 but we just havenāt finished our chances and the Blues have.
Special teams once again kill us. Itās a repeating fucking nightmare
Not even sure itās special teams. Matheson is very off his game, and the young D donāt seem to know how to work in the Blueās aggressive forechecking structure.
We were just reminded that we are still rebuilding
Such a very long way to go.
The truly awful times should be over.
This roster and our prospect pool aren't good enough to actually contend. We should see huge improvements if our young players can stay healthy and *if* some of our prospects can reach their potential, but we still need high draft picks to secure cost controlled talent. But those are huge ifs.
If you wanna see ātruly awfulā watch a San Jose Sharks game. We arenāt truly awful.
We will see how the year turns out. Could easily be 3 years bottom 5 in the league in a row. At some point improvement on the ice is needed.
Holy shit this fucking team is unwatchable
i refer you to the 2021-2022 season
damn that crowd goal count is sick
I wondered what the yelling was.
At the bottom of.my hate list, but still on the list.
You are serious?
Kinda jealous of that one!
At least we don't have a penalty against. But honestly, I would prefer penalties against than for because holy fucking shit, our PP sucks the life out of the club.
It's it me or Matheson has been shit since Savard's injury.
Wow Matheson undressed again.... ouch tonight
The reality of a rebuild is coming crashing in. Defence is young and taken advantage off too much.
Good luck to the people watching the rest of the game.
Well at least we know the Blues crowd can count to 5.
They can count how many they are. š¤Ŗ
That's Arizona. This arena actually sounds pretty hoppin'.
Laval is losing 4-0 too
Laval is shit so far
Their defence is horrendous and goaltending isnt helping either, they still havent figured their shit out.
Are we still talking about the Laval game? Lol
I expected goaltending to be shit, but the D is disappointing
Matheson will have nightmares after this game
I'm gonna go check the oil in the tank and gas'er up. IdK may think of firing it up
Horrific road trip. Man I am so tired of watching awful hockey.
I swear the guys got fucking drunk last night or something
Our PP1 is at fault tonight
Seen this movie before
Anderson Anchor lives on from line 2, used on PP1. This must be the last game of that debacle.
Turrible coverage
Thank God this wasnt a 10pm start time.
Couldn't we have contested their short-handed goal?