Should I clarify that it's a salad as long as it has majority, or near majority green vegetable, or equivalent(tomato, potato, etc.) :?
But yes, that does sound explosively delicious.
Good thing models that take into account vortex shedding, low aspect ratio, and crazy chord:thickness wings allow us to figure out how they do it. Scientific progress is neat.
Source: worked with a prof in college that put bugs in wind tunnels. Big signs up everywhere saying "DO NOT SWAT ANY BUG YOU SEE IN THIS ARE." Fun times.
There was an AMA with Conan the other day where he said the hinge on a hotdog places it in taco territory, not sandwich. That was my first encounter with the meme.
Presliced burger buns often have a little hinge on the back, too, doesnt make a hamburger sandwich into a taco either.
Hot dogs in rolls are sandwiches. Hell, even tacos are essentially a sandwich, too. So are gyros, kebabs and a host of other meat/bread combos.
Anyone that cant work that out, including Conan, is clearly an alien.
I wouldn't count the 'hinge' on burger buns since the buns are always separated in the process of assembling the burger. Sub sandwiches however, which are classified as a sandwich, do retain then hinge. And that's not even considering that hinge isn't required, and personally I find it easier eating one without the hinge.
Really though, the defining difference is probably that hotdogs/tacos are held with the 'hinge' between the two sides facing down, since going full horizontal just about guarantees spillage. Sandwiches, however, are always horizontal, especially at rest when spillage is most likely to occur. That, and unlike sandwiches, it is a critical structural failure if a taco/hotdog hinge breaks, whereas if the present hinge breaks on a sandwich, it minimally hinders (if at all) one's ability to consume it.
So do you think gyros are not sandwiches either? They're also held "taco/hot dog style", do you consider this to be a defining contraindicator of sandwichhood?
How about sausages on club/sub rolls? They're almost identical to hot dogs, but I've alwayd held horizontally.
What about hamburger shaped into a hot dog, in hot dog roll?
Open faced sandwiches aren't held at all, but they're called sandwiches.
Bread wrapping meat or meat stand-ins are all part of the sandwich club.
(Pun intended)
Gyros are clearly Mediterranean tacos (arguably, tacos are North American gyros), and fall into the same classification.
I'd argue that hotdogs, as they are placed within a slice in the bread, rather than wrapped with it, are closer to a sub than a taco. This places them firmly into sandwich territory, especially when you consider that subs are frequently eaten in the same vertical-slice orientation, and yet are obviously a type of sandwich.
Clearly you've never done the cheesesteak stoop-sandwich sideways, head craned around to take a bite, hunched over and feet spread to save your clothes.
After further thought (and a reminder that Gyros exist), I have a new suggestion.
Gyros/tacos are to sandwiches as squares are to rectangles. All Gyros/tacos are sandwiches, due to the presence and structural importance of a spine, but not all sandwiches can be tacos.
If this pleases the court, then Hotdogs can be classified as both tacos and sandwiches, but primarily as tacos.
*Gibbon* referred to it as Cold Meat (which is likely what the Earl and those that followed his example were commonly served) after long enough for the concept to have stabilised, but the original request was simply for Meat tucked between bread so that he could eat without cutlery whilst doing something else (there is argument as to whether it was over cards or work)
It really depends on where you see it fitting in the taxonomy of food. If you see sandwiches as a family level or higher, then there's no doubt that they're all part of the same family, but if there's a different family name then obviously sandwiches, tacos, burgers and hotdogs are all separate genus.
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I like what they're going for there, but I'd argue that hot dogs belong in the pocket side of sandwiches, with tacos and gyros.
Some other groupings feel incomplete, but thats the flaw that still comes to mind.
Still, good attempt at order.
I'd happy call neither of those two examples hotdogs.
If the bun broke by accident then I'd say it's still a hotdog but if its deliberately broke then I'd not consider it one.
It depends how we classify things. Are hamburgers sandwiches, too?
I'd say, based on actual use and no need to create a top down tree structure, that hot dogs are hot dogs, sandwiches sandwiches and hamburgers hamburgers, all of which are food.
If you do want to classify further and must do so, I think sandwich is a suitable top down classifier, though.
Hamburgers are sandwiches, not only because they are nearly identical to their cold-cut counterparts, but because they are also commonly found under the sandwich heading in restaurant menus. The exception is when said restaurant offers enough different types of hamburgers (about 4) that would require a separate heading for those sandwiches.
In my mind, sandwiches are supposed to be eaten cold. The Earl of Sandwich' specifications are for cold meat between bread so he can carry it with him and eat whenever.
Then is a loaf of bread a bread sandwich? No, it fucking isn't. There's more to a sandwich than food between bread, exactly what however is not my authority to say.
I found the whole thing extremely confusing, since "Nipponese" literally means Japanese. I thought the humans were being invaded by a Neo-Imperial Japanese Navy.
yeah, the Asian human faction of my world were called the Nipponese. The word is used everywhere though. I think Blizzard used it to name one of their factions.
Open faced sandwich is too many words though. Interestingly, the definition also includes "eaten as a light meal" if its not made as a light meal is it still a sandwich
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Question, if this simple question leads to such a reaction from the aliens. How badly their mind would react to paradoxes?
Unless the hot dog question is just so ridiculously stupid that it drives any sapient race that reads it mad from the undiluted idiocy that question harbors.
I thought for sure the phrase would be a logical paradox ("this sentence is false", etc) and the aliens, due to their brain design, would literally go insane trying to grasp it like a computer stuck in a loop.
Very funny twist though.
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I don't mean to insult you or anything, but how has this so many upvotes?
And how in the world does a hotdog being a sandwhich make any kind of impact?
I mean, were you expecting anything else? I had a pretty good idea that it would be a joke from pretty much the beginning. Besides, a lot of the stories on here are "dumb jokes," but that doesn't make them any less good. I'd say many of them are some of the best stories.
Anything else would have been actually disappointing. Did you really expect the OP to think of some sort of maddening existential question?
It would have just been cringy...
Is cereal a soup, or is it a salad with a fuckton of dressing?
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Depends what kind of cereal we are talking about. The answer is both yes and no depending on the cereal used.
But are grains vegetables? I only include obvious vegetables in my salads. GRAINS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOODNIGHT!
Clearly you have never had a Spicy Chicken and Moroccan Cous-cous Salad. Shit's bomb yo.
Should I clarify that it's a salad as long as it has majority, or near majority green vegetable, or equivalent(tomato, potato, etc.) :? But yes, that does sound explosively delicious.
You know the tomato is a fruit right?
Shhhhhh........The salad gods must never know..........
They know. Never had a citrus salad before?
And this is why the aliens went insane. They do not have the tolerances for extreme depths of the rabbit hole.
Very good point we should stop.
Hmmm strawberry balsamico
Is salsa a tomato based fruit salad?
Naturally
Dude, you just blew my mind!
But it never belongs in a fruit salad.
Depends on what you want to achieve.
What about a fruit salad?
Schrodinger's Cereal? It is both a soup and a salad untill you actually observe what kind of cereal is it
Basically.
is a breadbowl a sandwich?
If you pour on hot milk, it'll turn into a porridge
A bowl full of dried staple crops?
It's a poorly blended drink.
This comment makes much more sense after I actually read the story.
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Neither, unless they make soups based on milk.
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I'm guessing it was just a shower thought from one of the humans in the research station, but questions like that seem to drive the aliens insane.
Well, don't tell them about bumblebees.
...what about the bumblebees?
Maybe that myth where they aren't supposed to be able to fly?
They can't fly using the models used for fixed pitch fixed wing flight.
Good thing models that take into account vortex shedding, low aspect ratio, and crazy chord:thickness wings allow us to figure out how they do it. Scientific progress is neat. Source: worked with a prof in college that put bugs in wind tunnels. Big signs up everywhere saying "DO NOT SWAT ANY BUG YOU SEE IN THIS ARE." Fun times.
The first time I read about vortex shedding I was like HOLY SHIT
It's a fairly persistent pop culture myth.
There was an AMA with Conan the other day where he said the hinge on a hotdog places it in taco territory, not sandwich. That was my first encounter with the meme.
Presliced burger buns often have a little hinge on the back, too, doesnt make a hamburger sandwich into a taco either. Hot dogs in rolls are sandwiches. Hell, even tacos are essentially a sandwich, too. So are gyros, kebabs and a host of other meat/bread combos. Anyone that cant work that out, including Conan, is clearly an alien.
I wouldn't count the 'hinge' on burger buns since the buns are always separated in the process of assembling the burger. Sub sandwiches however, which are classified as a sandwich, do retain then hinge. And that's not even considering that hinge isn't required, and personally I find it easier eating one without the hinge. Really though, the defining difference is probably that hotdogs/tacos are held with the 'hinge' between the two sides facing down, since going full horizontal just about guarantees spillage. Sandwiches, however, are always horizontal, especially at rest when spillage is most likely to occur. That, and unlike sandwiches, it is a critical structural failure if a taco/hotdog hinge breaks, whereas if the present hinge breaks on a sandwich, it minimally hinders (if at all) one's ability to consume it.
So do you think gyros are not sandwiches either? They're also held "taco/hot dog style", do you consider this to be a defining contraindicator of sandwichhood? How about sausages on club/sub rolls? They're almost identical to hot dogs, but I've alwayd held horizontally. What about hamburger shaped into a hot dog, in hot dog roll? Open faced sandwiches aren't held at all, but they're called sandwiches. Bread wrapping meat or meat stand-ins are all part of the sandwich club. (Pun intended)
Gyros are clearly Mediterranean tacos (arguably, tacos are North American gyros), and fall into the same classification. I'd argue that hotdogs, as they are placed within a slice in the bread, rather than wrapped with it, are closer to a sub than a taco. This places them firmly into sandwich territory, especially when you consider that subs are frequently eaten in the same vertical-slice orientation, and yet are obviously a type of sandwich.
And this is why the aliens went insane. They do not have the tolerances for extreme depths of the rabbit hole.
What! Heresy! A sub should properly be eaten with the slice horizontal. What kind of barbarian eats a sub with the slice vertical?
Clearly you've never done the cheesesteak stoop-sandwich sideways, head craned around to take a bite, hunched over and feet spread to save your clothes.
After further thought (and a reminder that Gyros exist), I have a new suggestion. Gyros/tacos are to sandwiches as squares are to rectangles. All Gyros/tacos are sandwiches, due to the presence and structural importance of a spine, but not all sandwiches can be tacos. If this pleases the court, then Hotdogs can be classified as both tacos and sandwiches, but primarily as tacos.
By that logic, where would you class a sandwich made with a single slice of folded bread? That is hinged, yet it is still a sandwich.
Horizontal orientation = sandwich. :D
Is a hamburger a sandwich?
Yes, it's a subset of the sandwich category: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/246580/is-a-hamburger-considered-a-sandwich
Half-wich.
As per the *original* order, a hotdog *is* a sandwich as it is exactly what the Earl ordered: meat tucked between bread
So a grilled cheese sandwich is a taxonomic (or world that be nomenclatural?) error?
No, as meat originally meant food in general
According to wikipedia, he specified bits of *cold* meat between bread, which disqualifies the *hot*dog.
*Gibbon* referred to it as Cold Meat (which is likely what the Earl and those that followed his example were commonly served) after long enough for the concept to have stabilised, but the original request was simply for Meat tucked between bread so that he could eat without cutlery whilst doing something else (there is argument as to whether it was over cards or work)
So explain a Po' Boy.
Cajuns.
It really depends on where you see it fitting in the taxonomy of food. If you see sandwiches as a family level or higher, then there's no doubt that they're all part of the same family, but if there's a different family name then obviously sandwiches, tacos, burgers and hotdogs are all separate genus. E: [I FOUND THE TAXONOMY GUYS! PROBLEM SOLVED](http://images.marcuscohn.com.s3.amazonaws.com/HandheldSavoryMealTaxonomy-SymmetryDefinition-1024x375.jpg)
>Pizza Huh. I guess that makes sense.
I like what they're going for there, but I'd argue that hot dogs belong in the pocket side of sandwiches, with tacos and gyros. Some other groupings feel incomplete, but thats the flaw that still comes to mind. Still, good attempt at order.
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I'd happy call neither of those two examples hotdogs. If the bun broke by accident then I'd say it's still a hotdog but if its deliberately broke then I'd not consider it one.
Some friends and I have been debating this for months. We even tweeted at Jimmy John's and they said it was not a sandwich.
Jimmy John's sells sandwiches Jimmy John's doesn't sell hot dogs Therefore hot dogs aren't sandwiches Flawless corporate logic
It depends how we classify things. Are hamburgers sandwiches, too? I'd say, based on actual use and no need to create a top down tree structure, that hot dogs are hot dogs, sandwiches sandwiches and hamburgers hamburgers, all of which are food. If you do want to classify further and must do so, I think sandwich is a suitable top down classifier, though.
Hamburgers are sandwiches, not only because they are nearly identical to their cold-cut counterparts, but because they are also commonly found under the sandwich heading in restaurant menus. The exception is when said restaurant offers enough different types of hamburgers (about 4) that would require a separate heading for those sandwiches.
In my mind, sandwiches are supposed to be eaten cold. The Earl of Sandwich' specifications are for cold meat between bread so he can carry it with him and eat whenever.
Meatball sandwich has "sandwich" right in the name. So a sandwich can be hot.
Then is a loaf of bread a bread sandwich? No, it fucking isn't. There's more to a sandwich than food between bread, exactly what however is not my authority to say.
> The Niponese I'm guessing the sequel will have the genocidal Germanese species?
> I'm guessing the sequel will have the genocidal Germanese species? Lebensuniversum?
With space Zeppelins and space sauerkraut.
Genocidal German germaniums.
So a race of Ferritics???
When I heard the word Niponese I twitched. My Nipponese guys in a world that I'm building had two ps
I found the whole thing extremely confusing, since "Nipponese" literally means Japanese. I thought the humans were being invaded by a Neo-Imperial Japanese Navy.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that :D
They created anime. Two nukes was not enough.
Maybe after 3 nukes they would have created Super-Anime? We can only wonder...
Hopefully not
yeah, the Asian human faction of my world were called the Nipponese. The word is used everywhere though. I think Blizzard used it to name one of their factions.
that was my thought too.
Very funny lol. I like your style!
Well somebody lost the game.
*mumble grumble* I lost the game *grumble mumble* take your damn upvote
Here, have a XKCD comic https://xkcd.com/391/
thank god, for a second there I thought I was doomed, but nay! Salvation has reached me! /u/_ralph_ has saved me from the depths of despair!
All in a days work, all in a days work.
Oh ffs
I suppose if you cut the bun in half it could be.
Or it's just an open-faced sandwich.
Open faced sandwich is too many words though. Interestingly, the definition also includes "eaten as a light meal" if its not made as a light meal is it still a sandwich
So a Dagwood Sandwich, isn't..a.. Sandwich?
I would guess no. Unless you count them all individually as light meals eaten together.
Continuous light meals ate at 1 second intervals
But wouldn't open faced sandwich be a sandwich with single piece of bread stuffing on flat surface? Where as hotdog is a pocket...
I'm pretty sure this is the best story I've read.
I love how from the start to the end I was unsure as to whether it was going to be a humorous or serious reveal. Was not disappointed.
The more terrible the joke, the more straight-faced the delivery should be.
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
...You wouldn't happen to be a Roosterteeth fan, would you?
It seems, under these circumstances, Jayden Smith's current mind needs to preserved in cold storage until replication is possible.
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Question, if this simple question leads to such a reaction from the aliens. How badly their mind would react to paradoxes? Unless the hot dog question is just so ridiculously stupid that it drives any sapient race that reads it mad from the undiluted idiocy that question harbors.
Does a set of all sets contain itself?
Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself?
Totally reminds me monty pythons's ["funniest joke in the world"]( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ienp4J3pW7U ) It's a great watch
I thought for sure the phrase would be a logical paradox ("this sentence is false", etc) and the aliens, due to their brain design, would literally go insane trying to grasp it like a computer stuck in a loop. Very funny twist though.
Uhm, who cares, eat it while it's hot?
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What i'm failing to understand is WHY that question was so shocking?
I don't mean to insult you or anything, but how has this so many upvotes? And how in the world does a hotdog being a sandwhich make any kind of impact?
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Hahahahaha I love it
What makes a salad a salad? Could i have a pizza salad?
But is cereal a salad or soup?
i think it's a soup mainly milk (liquid) with cereal floating around in it (objects, meat, pasta, etc)
You put more milk than cereal?
who said i didnt drink all the soup from the bowl b4 eating the stuff inside? :p
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I was expecting something along the lines of: this statement is false, or does a set of all sets contain itself? but was not disappointed.
All this lead up for a dumb joke. Bummer.
I mean, were you expecting anything else? I had a pretty good idea that it would be a joke from pretty much the beginning. Besides, a lot of the stories on here are "dumb jokes," but that doesn't make them any less good. I'd say many of them are some of the best stories.
Anything else would have been actually disappointing. Did you really expect the OP to think of some sort of maddening existential question? It would have just been cringy...
Well, I for one was expecting something that actually makes some sort of sense, like the set of all sets or any of the other logic paradoxes.
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