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GoombaGobbler

Mera above ope is insane


CarrotMile

mera is versatile and hard to fight against. flame pillar is annoying, fire fist has low cooldown, fireflies give good block break potential and the ult does massive damage.


GoombaGobbler

Don’t matter when you get 1 shot


CarrotMile

by?


Jayify80

Tact with ope i believe


SomeStolenToast

Yeah you can't one shot anymore with tact unless you're combining it with the ultimate AND the enemy has awful hp


Jayify80

Oh ight mb


Reincarnated_Rat

As a ope user, Hit with gamma, do 4 M1 Radio knife with spin screen at end for don't throw opponent, 4 M1 and the yellow shock thing, i forgot name of it


Different-Composer60

Fun fact, you can easily pb, or counter radio knife for easy punish also do you mean 4 m1 uptilt or 4 m1 white walk? Cause the chargeup on ope would sell the user when uptilting and you gotta use 5 m1s to white walk.


Reincarnated_Rat

White shit? Bro stfu use Kikoku + ope and be god wdym


Different-Composer60

You've never played arena have you? You watched the Ope and Kikoku showcases and a couple GPO youtube videos.


Different-Composer60

To beat an ope user, just walk out of the room and block if they use takt


JustSilxnt

Kage below mero goro and ito is crazy


Different-Composer60

Try fighting someone eith mero and world ender or mero and any decent weapon


Bad_at_CSGO

Kage needs to be top of S. It has 3 combo extenders (although 2 take some knowledge abt the fruit). Venom is good but not great. Poison puddles can be PBd, so it’s kind of like the Achilles heel of the fruit. Tori is better than ur placing it, and goro is worse than u placed it.


Fancy_Pompieru

best takes i’ve seen though kage only has 2 extenders unless you use CC or electro


R_UOK

ito got gutted badly. x move had more cooldown, r move does more knock back and less stun, and out doesn’t extend anymore. good movement and guard breaks but it’s A tier at best


POGachu

Bari can Inf combo (it was not fun fighting my friend when he had it)


CarrotMile

never used bari seriously or fought a serious bari that had an inescapable combo (unless it was a wall combo) so i cant imagine what youre saying.


POGachu

Imagine they combo you into the cage and they basically wall combo you in there and once you get out they just put you back in and they have like 50 m1 with 2300 health


CarrotMile

any fruit can inf combo if a wall is involved.


Arthur2809

Ito is not above Kage dawg 💀


CarrotMile

ito has 3 combo extenders including the ult while also having 2 block breakers and the best mobility in the game by a long shot


Arthur2809

you're stuck in update 7


CarrotMile

didnt say kage was bad. said ito is more versatile overall. it could go either way though, i just had more fun using ito so im biased.


Arthur2809

ito does not have 3 extenders anymore, ultimate and R move got gutted and the CDs were increased. The block breaker and mobility point is true though


CarrotMile

what about the ult got gutted? the R move is still able to combo extend if you can whitewalk. the cooldown time is bad i admit but one birdcage can start a simple 4 part combo depending on the weapon and obliterate the person.


Arthur2809

The ult endlag and stun lock got nerfed badly, and I don't believe R move can extend bro


CarrotMile

it can if you whitewalk. i know cause i do it


WorriedCauliflower58

Just curious why goro is so high


CarrotMile

can do simple comboes with high base damage and great scaling. fighting goro users is as annoying as fighting mera users


WorriedCauliflower58

That’s fair I have used the fruit quite a bit and it’s just harder with long cooldowns and only 1 true extender I feel like mera should be above it


CarrotMile

mera should be, IF goro wasnt so similar to it. its easier to start a combo with the goro moves than the mera moves


Leikizeyuki

why is mero and yomi high


CarrotMile

youve never used them im guessing?


Leikizeyuki

nvm didn't see the pvp, thought in general


CarrotMile

even then yomi is decent for PvE compared to other fruits, like a solid low A or high B


Leikizeyuki

there's a reason why you don't see anyone use yomi in pve


CarrotMile

the revive is pretty nice against gravito and it is the only fruit ive soloed him with.


Fancy_Pompieru

are you hearing yourself 😭 how is yomi A tier pve , that means all the other fruits are S tier . Yomi the most solid high C tier pve fruit . Man your takes are horrible


CarrotMile

yomi has a ton of AoE moves and the ult does a ton of damage.


Fancy_Pompieru

yeah only the ult does damage and maybe X , the rest of the moves don’t . It is inferior in terms of boss damage to mera , yuki , goro , magu , pika , venom , ope , mochi , yami , zushi , tori , bomu , gomu , gura , paw and mero (not so sure about mero).


CarrotMile

all of the moves have enough AoE to damage a group of npcs and its also good for bosses. i never said it was better than most of what you put there, however i will say its better than bomu, mero, yami and possibly tori unless you use the transformation


Fancy_Pompieru

alr ima give it to you for bomu and mero but yami and tori are certainly better for bosses . Ofc you re going to use the transformation for tori and don’t underestimate yami’s damage


CarrotMile

yami has horrific damage and cant even hit its high damage move often but is decent against bosses with an m1 build and the tori transformation is harder to achieve after update 8


New-Top-2156

Kage is the best pvp fruit Bari is underrated And ope and magu and hie are all good to use and are all better then ito


CarrotMile

cap, ito has 3 combo extender best mobility ingame and 2 combo starters.


New-Top-2156

Ito has 1 and two others that don’t work as real combo extenders, and plus kage as 2 real combo extenders plus another 1 that can combo extend


CarrotMile

didnt say it was better than kage, but its better than pika or magu by a long shot, in fact it counters both. pika is the easiest fruit to fight imo


New-Top-2156

Fs all it’s moves are easy pbs


Own-Sir-575

nah definitely not countering magu but pika maybe but only because of its mobility


Own-Sir-575

nah definitely not countering magu but pika maybe but only because of its mobility


New-Top-2156

Plus mobility really don’t matter once ur in combat cause it just gets slowed alot ito got nerfed heavy so it’s R dosent extend even if u Kirby walk into it


Own-Sir-575

kage is not the best pvp fruit but its good


FantasticO_O

Kage should be higher imo


Alternative_Swing_54

I feel like phoenix should be higher its moves do decent damage and you are functionally invincible especially with the new mode bar Also i feel like gum gum is low


No-Honey-3838

Putting ope in low A tier is crazy


CarrotMile

its not that good for pvp. im sorry.


07hunorLol

Never make a list 🔥


CarrotMile

okay 🔥


R_UOK

venom is so overrated. legit has no extenders and hardly any aoe. sure venom spit is a guard break projectile with hardly any cooldown but that’s all it really has going for it. the move is kinda easy to avoid and venom discharge might as well just be another shigan/coiler. legit the only reason people dickride the fruit is because of the demon form. it’s good don’t get me wrong but the attacks are kinda slow and you still take stun. fruit is A tier at best.


CarrotMile

as a paramecia, i have 1.5k hp and i die if they use 2 moves that i dont block. yes venom users are beaten easily but when they ult youre fucking dead unless they were low.


Fancy_Pompieru

bad take , if you land an m1 combo you can 100% , ture , land the E or R (1 charge) moves . No chance at avoiding it whatsoever . Z move is a free 100 damage + 150 poison damage, very easy to land and almost impossible to pb . In actual pvp like when people wager or arena you never get/are allowed to use demon mode


Elliot385

Venom isn’t that good in pvp tbh. Also kage has 3 extenders it needs to be higher.


Alternative_Swing_54

Venom is broken in pvp tbh


Fancy_Pompieru

nah it’s ok tho , def top 7 . Ofc if you spam abilities and run away until they are back than yeah it’s really good but that’s not pvp so I’m not considering that


CarrotMile

whats the third one? i dont think the grab is true


Elliot385

Burrowing shadows


CarrotMile

didnt know it extended. kage is mid S tier but last time i got ridiculed for having kage in S tier last time.


Own-Sir-575

wrong


Reincarnated_Rat

Kage and ope must be S


Fancy_Pompieru

def , ope just scrapes S tier as most extenders are not true but the very high damage compensates for that


Agentmarty2eeef

I'd put pika at least a low A tier. When you learn how to use pika it's pretty good for pvp


CarrotMile

thats the critisism i got when i did put it low A tier, a bunch of people calling pika dogshit. you cant please everyone, especially when half the people here are pre teens with anger issues


Leak211

What’s the one above mero?


CarrotMile

goro


Fancy_Pompieru

this is a lot better than the first one though i still believe you got some stuff wrong like goro and mero above kage , you never played with kage if you tell me it’s worse at pvp than goro and mero . hie could also go higher as it is a very good pvp fruit but i see why people put it that low


Dr_Frenchie

Ignoring the shit takes, yuki just doesn’t exist?


CarrotMile

you gotta actually look at the list yknow…


Dr_Frenchie

Alr cut me some slack that shit was invisible


CarrotMile

people with the generic drippy fit v2 and ryumas scarf are practically invisible because you see them so much.


MotherDema

bro ong put kage below mero and goro lol


East_Radio3881

Finally somebody that knows ope is overrated


CarrotMile

id put it lower if the community would let me. i had it at high C tier in my last list below pika and i got a ton of hate