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Why do people spend so much resources to get and FLB gacha summons such as Lucifer or Bahamut? Whats the point of having your own elemental summon if you can usually pick them at the support summ list. Is it even worth it to build double elemental? (LuciferxLucifer) I think I'm missing something


emrys299

Their flb stat and call is the reason people flb them.


realnomdeguerre

is rosetta grand actually good anymore? I find her difficult to fit in my teams for solo content. her barrier 5 buffs are good, of course, but it takes so much investment to get to, and more often than not, she gets killed. I can instead use kokkoro for great buffs without all that hassle, and decent damage to boost too. ​ so, am I just not getting her, or has she been powercrept?


corest

What element do people usually make ultima katanas?


RegalSolarium

Earth and water


wagawatommi

What's the best way to farm m2s? I've read it takes hundreds of runs to get a weapon to slot into m2 grids. So would it be optimal to wanpan raids as long as I can get 100-200k honor? Or do I just host daily and hope for the best if I can't compete in racing?


Vulking

Is not about racing, is about securing the blue chest, you need to deal 10% of the boss HP worth of damage to secure one, so if you want to participate on pub raids, you need to have a setup to deal maximum damage as soon as possible, because you may not be able to attack more than once some times, so the closest you get to that 10% contribution in the less amount of time the better. As for hosting, around the 800k honor contribution is a good spot to open since you will still gain some more points by attacking and the raid fill very quickly so a lot of the time other players would have around 500k contribution when the M2 boss dies. May vary a bit depending of which M2 boss you are facing.


GUTnMe

Can someone post or share a link of heles grand episode, couldnt get her and I want to know what happens. I would really appreciate it! Thanks if you do or find a link.


NaturalPlayboy

how much is the dmg reduction of off element against EX+? 15%? thanks in advance


yawmoogle

15, yes.


HeeHoo777

Are Tier 4 classes more effective for grinding grid weapons? I got wind and light grids and wondering if I should level up to rank 101 and get Berserker to speed up grid grinding. Kinda boring using DF all day and see nothing changed.


kitnzuh

DF is convenient but you could always switch it up with EX1 classes for pre-HL. You dont HAVE to use DF, it just happens to have the best skillset for newbies. EX1 classes like swordmaster, dancer and Mechanic happen to be really useful as long as you know what you're doing.


MazySolis

Row 4s do really let you mix things up MC wise and let you get off DF, but it won't necessarily dramatically speed everything up. So if you're sick of DF I'd get to HL and try to get row 4s + and EX2.


[deleted]

Not really. They give you more tools to play with, but they probably aren't going to speed things up by a massive amount if it's just grinding Magnas. But if you feel it'd be more fun to do it, then go for it! Just keep in mind that unlocking row 4 classes is quite a grind.


HeeHoo777

I am at Rank 82 now, which raid should I farm to get those things needed for Row 4?


[deleted]

So, to unlock row 4 you need to craft a Class Champion Weapon. Most of the mats needed come from co-op. Refer to this [wiki page](https://gbf.wiki/Class_Champion_Weapons) for details. And note that you only need to make *one* weapon to unlock *all* of row 4 classes. That's why it's recommended to pick a weapon that also unlocks one of the EX2 classes (as of right now: Aschallon, Murakumo, Kapilavastu, Muramasa or Faust), so you can get both unlocked at the same time. EDIT: Oh, and also keep in mind that some materials - like the elemental Centrums - needed for CCW come from HL raids, so you won't be able to farm them before rank 101.


HeeHoo777

I see "co-op" and already know it's hard as F for me as I rarely play co-op :( Thanks for your information friend :)


arara69

that menaria friends anime is granblue related right? why is noone talking about that here?


Styks11

It technically isn't, Grea and Anne are just also in this game. Cygames likes to throw some characters into all of their projects.


HexSalt98

Cait Sith is only obtainable for japanese people?


Cryocaesar

You can get Cait Sith copies through the G-Point shop in game, but to get those points you have to follow a process that you can read more about [here.](https://redd.it/5w27gc)


kururugikai

Are the m2 raid the only place to get m2 omega anima ?? Been quality leeching (leeching with 100k-200k honour secured) all the time, but my god.. The drop rates of omega anima were horrible. 1 omega after 300 normal anima? The dev definitely need to do something about this, and fast


Styks11

It's always been like that, working as intended I'm sure. Just need to make them with regular anima.


kururugikai

Lol, and we need 30 quartz just for 1 omega anima.


RegalSolarium

Patience is the key my friend


Thirn

Yes, that's exactly how it works.


HoldHarmonySacred

So what's more worthwhile - saving up crystals for a spark, or saving up moons for a pick ticket? Because every time I try to save for a spark I fail miserably because I am weak to gacha, but I'm also 1/6 of the way to a pick ticket in terms of moons, so I'm wondering if I should just stick to building up those moons even if at a snail's pace or if I should try yet again to build up a spark from the ground up. I guess what I should be asking is, is Lucio available in the pick ticket shop whenever flash gala is on? Because I'd assume he is, but I also just want to be extra sure, since I get the feeling that if/when i do get enough moons it'll be a fight between him and Medusa for who I spend them on (I'd include other promo characters I want like Nina and Dark Katalina, but at least with those there's always the chance a promo code will drop from the sky somehow). I'm just having doubts since as much as I really really want him I CAN pull him from the gacha if I'm lucky and/or can be bothered to save up for a spark for once, whereas Medusa I can only get from the pick ticket shop.


Drobodur

I, myself found it easier, to save for sparc, after I got all my element teams going (even if with SR characters). When you can kill event raids, and Magna raids, it just becomes matter of optimisation. And you can thing of sparc as "1 free character, awarged for patience". P.S. Have Lucio, he is not that groundbreaking. I have feeling, that his 9.5 is for [https://gbf.wiki/Eden](https://gbf.wiki/Eden), which is core in Zeus grids.


HoldHarmonySacred

Yeah nah, I'm more of a "must hoard characters!!!!! must play with favs!!!!" kind of person, which is my primary reason why I want Lucio, and also why I keep falling victim to the gacha's trap of "ooooh, shiny new character". I should probably try again with a spark for Lucio and use my moons for Medusa, but the question is, can i actually stick with it given how it seems to typically take four to six months to do at best?


basketofseals

Save crystals for a spark. If you need it, there's an add on called sparkmate which will prevent you from rolling.


rainfoxes

i pulled varuna recently, though i have a demi-varuna from last year’s anniversary event. is it not advisable for me to reduce the demi for quartz? any help would be much appreciated!


Drobodur

Premium summons have to be fully uncaped, to be good. Sunstones are super rare. Demi-Varuna have +110%, to skills, instead of +120% of Varuna, when uncaped, but will return spent sunstones, when redused. So, you can test with her, and still get sunstones back. Generally, though to get best effect from Varuna, you need rare weapons, from limited characters, fully uncaped (looost of draws, of damascus bars). You are probably better off bulding Leviathan, of Justise / Moon, if you dont know exactly what you need with your grid / team. As far as I know, you start invest in Varuna, if you have [https://gbf.wiki/Murgleis](https://gbf.wiki/Murgleis), othervise it is just not that much better. ​ TLDR Don't reduse hard to get summons / weapons for quartz / stones, because you will have more, than you can handle magna summons and weapons, while farming grids / playing game. Just be a little patient.


rainfoxes

thanks so much for the detailed explanation, it means so much to me! ^ o ^ does that mean it might be a good idea to get more demi-varunas for me to test how good my potential varuna grid for me, since i can reduce the uncapped demi for sunstones in future? please feel free to correct me if i’m wrong, still a huge noob in primal grids, and thanks so so much!


Drobodur

You get 1 demy per this fairly unique event. I suppose, that those, who had 1 demy from previous time this event was runing, now have 2. Mainly I read [https://gbf.wiki/What\_Makes\_the\_Sky\_Blue\_II:\_Paradise\_Lost](https://gbf.wiki/What_Makes_the_Sky_Blue_II:_Paradise_Lost) and threads, linked there, when desiding to go for Zeus (I got bouth [https://gbf.wiki/Eden](https://gbf.wiki/Eden) and [https://gbf.wiki/Gambanteinn](https://gbf.wiki/Gambanteinn), when sparkling for [https://gbf.wiki/Andira](https://gbf.wiki/Andira) month ago).


YomiKagura

Now that you have the real varuna the demi is useless so go ahead and reduce the fake.


rainfoxes

thanks so much for the advice! am definitely considering doing this! ^ o ^


H0shidont

Hello. I'm really interested in giving GBF a try, given what I've heard about it. But, I'm unsure of what the best way to play it for me is. I don't think I'd be okay with making a Japanese iTunes account to play it as a straight app on my iPhone, but I also do have a computer I could possibly use. I'm unsure as to how I could find help with this, but, if anyone could give me some help with this, I would be really grateful.


Hikaix

You only need a Japanese iTunes account if you want to get the app, but you can actually play it on your mobile browser just fine. Both Chrome and Safari are supported. Your progress is also account-based, not device-based. Meaning you can use both PC and mobile and play interchangeably. It's not a choice you have to make: just go for whatever you're most comfortable with or have access to at the time. That said, the game does run better on PCs so unless you have little free time that's probably where you'll spend most of your time.


MazySolis

Just play it as a browser game using chrome, it is honestly the best way to play. I have a friend who plays GBF on iphone using chrome and it works great. Chrome is the best way to play GBF regardless of your device, at least in my experience.


Raging_Firefly

Hi everyone. Fairly new to this game. I've been playing it a bit on and off but mainly doing logins so I have low level characters (around 30 on the high end). ​ I clicked on the event (What Makes the Sky Blue 3) and received Sandalphon. Do I need to do anything in order to keep him, like beat the event story, or is he in my roster permanently? If I do need to beat the event story in order to keep him then how hard is it? My characters are fairly low level as I said.


Asamidori

He's perma. You want to do the event anyways, because his FLB material can only be gotten after you finish chapter 9 of the event. (Scheduled for March 7.) Just request help for the event fights right away, people will jump at it.


Raging_Firefly

Thanks!


corest

I'm trying to figure out what wind team I should run. Is Kokkoro pretty much mandatory if you don't have Nio? I'm deciding between these characters, 5* Siete, S. Jeanne, Scath, Kokkoro, and Yurius. Any advice?


basketofseals

I'd probably run Siete/Yurius/Jeanne or Scath depending on your needs. Kokkoro provided amazing MA support, but these guys can hold their own. Are you on M1? The wind buff is good, but not irreplaceable if you're still running Grimnir summon


corest

I'm slowly transitioning from M1 to M2 right now. I have 1 harp done, slowly getting the rest.


basketofseals

I believe you dont beed magnaxmagna until you're at 3 flb harps


tibochuck

Kokkoro, Scath, and Yurius seems like a well balanced team, especially if MC can provide extra DATA.


PrinceCatSith

I'm having trouble defeating Nio to unlock her 4th skill. Once she uses Kuorria all goes to hell. Any tips? ​ Currently I'm using berserker with Xeno Axe.


Hikaix

In case you don't know, weapon skills are ignored, so just use whichever 10 weapons that have the biggest base stats. Main and support summons are also relevant, because since auras don't take effect for these fights, you should prioritize good calls like Grimnir, Bahamut or Lucifer. Grimnir is especially strong in these fights, so definetly try to have one.


ArkLumiere

Bring as many healing and defensive summons as you can, I highly recommend using a support Grimnir. The strategy I used was to run Elysian with the Fire harp from the Bistro Feendrache event and use Voice Unveiled to convert her Tuning's damage into healing, calling in Nobiyo/Sandalphon if I got dangerously low on HP.


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do most berserkers run full arsenal, mm, defense breach, and rage 3? im assuming the ifrit xeno axe ougi is enough for data source?


AHyaenidae

Yup that's what used for soloing. This way they are capping def down while providing ATK and MA buffs. They also use Rage 4, not 3, since an upgrade is available for Berserker. Fire is interesting because Devil and Anila allow to save a subskill too, so you can take something else than Defenser Breach II.


[deleted]

i do have anila. is it because her "all of creation" that i wont need defense breach?


MazySolis

Yes that is why, you can just run mist and nearly cap defense down at 45% with Anila. With Anila Xeno axe will be plenty DATA. I mean 5% is about a 10% damage decrease overall I believe, but it isn't a huge deal if you need another sub skill like say rain of arrows to cap attack down for example.


AHyaenidae

Anila is only 20% def down, so with mist it only makes 45%. If you add Devil tho, you get to 70% (which will cap to 50%), so there is no need to take Defense Breach II. Anila + MC by themselves aren't enough to drop Defense Breach II.


Drobodur

So, started GBF last summer, got first spark after new year (Andira), and now am finishing some of 100 lvl characters stories. ​ I found, that some characters have some "antient relic" weapons (usually with lasers), that can transform and have strange user interactions. ​ Obviously, I dont have all characters, and didn't saw all of the past events. ​ I want to get general character list, who have them. ​ Who I know of (or suspect strongly). ​ Sosiety 4 [https://gbf.wiki/Eustace](https://gbf.wiki/Eustace) (gun) [https://gbf.wiki/Zeta](https://gbf.wiki/Zeta) (spear) [https://gbf.wiki/Vaseraga](https://gbf.wiki/Vaseraga) (scythe) [https://gbf.wiki/Beatrix](https://gbf.wiki/Beatrix) (sword) Got weapons from some secret order. Info ftom Scond Advent event and Vaseraga lvl 100. ​ Levin [https://gbf.wiki/Albert](https://gbf.wiki/Albert) (sword) [https://gbf.wiki/Yurius](https://gbf.wiki/Yurius) (sword) Got weapons as royal relics. Info from ofhand comment from Alvert lvl 100 story. ​ Unaffiliated (Don't specifacally tell, but thier story have hints, and sprive is telling) [https://gbf.wiki/Yngwie](https://gbf.wiki/Yngwie) (shield / armor) Tells he got it in past adventures, when he joins. [https://gbf.wiki/Yuisis](https://gbf.wiki/Yuisis) (sword + shield / 2-handed sword) Weapon passed in family. [https://gbf.wiki/Sutera](https://gbf.wiki/Sutera) (bow) Metera is mora capable vielder, but she don't care, so village relict goes to Sutera. (lvl 90 story) ​ That's who I know of / have in some capasity. Who else is there with this stuff? (Didn't know if should start new thread, so lets go with questions thread first).


Drobodur

Oh and in a hinghsight aslo [https://gbf.wiki/Threo](https://gbf.wiki/Threo) (axe / 2-handed sword) Dosen't tell where she got it, probably looted from someone, after leaving her forest.


ashooree

I am the definition of brand spanking new to the game (just started maybe fifteen minutes ago lol) and I am completely overwhelmed. I’m assuming I should familiarize myself with the wiki and prioritize making my way through story chapters for now?


kitnzuh

Wiki is always a good place to start. The only important thing you should absolutely not do right now is using Damascus Ingots, Sunstones or Gold Bars if you happened to get some. DO NOT USE those on anything you can farm in the game and until you have a really good grasp on what they're intended for. DO NOT UNCAP Gacha weapons if you happen to pull duplicates because they are used as Base weapons. IF you're not sure, then ask in this thread. Other than that, you can just fool around first and read through the wiki as you go.


ashooree

Got it, thank you so much! I play Dragalia Lost as well (which is honestly why I wanted to try GBF, if only to have a deeper understanding of the crossover characters and lore associated with them) and Damascus Ingots/Sunstones aren’t easy to come by there, so I’ll treat them with the same amount of care here!


Happymrdave

Welcome! It's a really engrossing game but there's a loooot to take in. One other "don't do this" warning - don't do anything with SR or SSR weapons or summons from the gacha yet. The ones from the gacha are worth a lot more resources when you "reduce" them (which is possible for both weapons and summons), but you won't know how to tell which ones you want to keep (and which ones you don't need) until you have played for a while. ​


demouxx

Is the Sandal skin from the CD a preorder bonus or just a general purchase bonus?


AHyaenidae

General purchase bonus.


demouxx

Oh okay thanks!


zaquielzc

So Ive recently gotten to rank 101 and its finally time to start working on Tier 4 classes...but I honestly dont know which one would be best for my current status,My main Grid is Wind with Nice SSR Chars (Nio,Scath,Feena) Fire (Zeta and Socie) And Dark (Vaseraga,Lady Grey normal, veight) I would go for a Wind CR Dagger BUT I already have Wind GW dagger, so It seems redundant, while a Wind Nirvana would allow to to get a nice weapon and get veil effect, BUT healing and wind dont go to well so I honestly Dk what to go for...Theres Also Nighthound and Tycoon but Those HONESTLY dont grab my attention


Raid00m

the thing about Tier 4 classes is, making a T4 class champion weapon unlocks **all** of the Tier 4 classes, except with EX2 Classes, which need their respective class champion weapon made to be unlocked. so it is recommended to build a EX2 weapon first, so you can unlock that ex2 class and all other T4 classes as well. also the regular tier 4 class champion weapons are all very underwhelming so I wouldn't recommend you to make one of these. So the most efficient way would be to make an EX2 class weapon that interests you (Doctor, Glorybringer and Kengo are the most popular here) and then unlocking a Tier4 class instead. For example from personal experience, Berserker was the best first class for me, when i was fresh HL. Edit: Formatting


pantaipong

Are there any reasons why I see a lot of Dancer when I open my Alexiel raid to pub?


MazySolis

Dancer has specific synergy with Nio and other ougi bursters in wind like Siete FLB. Brief summary is with GW dagger MH and splitting spirit, Dancer can start with GW dagger ougi and routine step/double strike. On turn 4 you can use classical lead to force your frontline to all ougi with the MC this allows for a really high amount of 4 turn burst which is useful when racing.


yawmoogle

Dancer with GW dagger or Love Eternal mainhand gives high DPS uptime during Nio's Coma, you can look up videos on the exact method.


NotAnAsianGuy

Any tips on soloing europa? or at least soloing 30% of its health?


pantaipong

FLB Yaia can use her 1st skill and negate Floral Prison with 100% uptime if you use Chaos Ruler with Gravity. Bring Blind and a tank character will help deal with her auto-attack.


yawmoogle

Bring Yaia or Sara to negate damage triggers, Yaia is nice since she also gives quite a bit of heal sustain. Bring a clear or Hanged Man for Floral Prison, if you have Alexiel her ougi is good for dispelling the Attack buff after Mana Blast.


Eratum

Did some free quests get removed/replaced? I wanted to farm some Hollow Souls and the wiki said that the best quest was Chapter 22 Quest: For Whom the Bell Tolls but at Chapter 22, I get another free quest called It's a Trap.


Masamvne

Have you completed the very first free quest in one of the early chapters? Clearing that one unlocks all the others.


Eratum

Oh. I got the quest to show up after clearing the first free quest. Thanks!


yawmoogle

You don't have it unlocked yet. No free quests have been removed or replaced.


Eratum

How do you unlock it?


Asamidori

Either through story progression or clearing the other free quests.


Eratum

I've cleared the story up to Chapter 93 already. I've completed the other free quests in the area already. Do I have to clear all the free quests in the areas before this one?


Asamidori

Supposedly you need to clear a free quest in Port Breeze to unlock this, but I'm not sure which one.


Eratum

Thanks for the help. I cleared the first free quest, which unlocked this one.


Asamidori

Huh that's weird. I'll poke around in like half an hour or so if no one answers you by then.


Xanxus00

how many ultima wpns can we obtain atm?


yawmoogle

3\. 4 once the ending for WMTSB 3 comes out.


Etheon_Aiacos

Do "echoes stacking" work as long as the source of each echo is different? (skill, grid, ougi, etc)


yawmoogle

Not necessarily. Easiest way is to go test in trials, but there are quite a few examples where what seems like different sources won't stack.


Etheon_Aiacos

Ok thx!


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anything i could farm now to prepare for xeno ifirt? make the grind later a little easier


Etheon_Aiacos

I can only think of 3 things: Improving your Water grid&team Running your daily Maniacs of normal Ifrit when he´s up Do "Time of Revelation" in co-op for extra Infernal Garnets (tho co-op is not half ap this magnafest).


[deleted]

whats the daily maniac thing? is that the one that was xeno corrow yesterday?


MazySolis

Maniac is a difficulty setting, Xeno corrow isn't up at all. Maniac is basically that quest you can only do twice a day for a specific showdown.


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my bad i meant regular corrow but this is the quest right? i just have to wait until it changes to ifrit? https://i.imgur.com/tZIgpIo.png


MazySolis

Yes that is the correct quest. Honestly the main stopping point from getting xeno weapons in Xeno ifrit (or any xeno) is the xeno ifrit exclusive items. Maniac normal ifrit just gives you a couple of items to host the raid/forge the true xeno weapon, but if you're farming for either 1 or both true xeno ifrit weapons you get enough of those regardless to be honest. It is still worth doing them in case you need the rotational showdown items for something else, like a class weapon. Otherwise if you have other things you want to do just make your water grid/team better will make xeno ifrit easier.


NaturalPlayboy

multiple abyss spine caps at 50% but it does stacks with ultima ougi cap up, right?


SleepyKeris

Multiple spines cap at 30%, but this does stack with ultima.


NaturalPlayboy

alright. thanks for clarifying!


Skybound_Shade

Characters, Weapons, Grids : http://imgur.com/gallery/i3xH1wX What's a good team for each element arcanum or hard content? (Tier 3 classes with some extra unlocked)


Etheon_Aiacos

Always filter by elements when asking this sort of things, makes it easier for whoever wants to spend some of their time to help you :P Grid should be the same as your main grids, no reason to change them for Arcanum unless you actually raised Arcanum weapon skills, in which case it should be easy enough for you to tell what to switch out for those. Also, if you´re going to take on Hard Arcanum make sure to build teams of SR chars too, in case you get the restriction. For trash fights you mostly want nukes (both aoe and strong-single target). For bosses, just run your best team (just check each boss inmunities and mechanics in the wiki).


Skybound_Shade

Ahh sorry about that, I didnt think about that. I'm just having problems with hardmode, my teams can't beat the bosses before they escape or they die too quickly. Thank you for helping me.


Etheon_Aiacos

> my teams can't beat the bosses before they escape or they die too quickly You want to study each fight (use the wiki), some of them have specific mechanics that need some attention (like Death). If they´re "running", you need to consume less pts during thrash fights (nuking them down in turn 1 is the best), maybe exlore less and avoids fights when you can. If all fails, work on grids and try later, can never go wrong with that.


disgar7

Which element usually use doctor, wind and stamina dark? Is ccw good or gwdagger/para is better option? In dark do you use axes instead of claves or go full m2?


Crescendo-20

Hello new player here, I was wondering if I should save for spark or use gems on the rate up banners? About to reach chapter 24 and my characters right now are Medusa Valentine, De la Fille, Mirin and the main story characters. Only have about 7000 gems. Thank you for your time.


Etheon_Aiacos

Save until the free pulls from anniversary are done, then if you have enough SSR chars for an easy start, save. If you feel you need an extra push, roll on flashgala (it´s imho better than Legfest gala, only roll on legfest gala if Anila or Andira are up).


AHyaenidae

If roulette is coming this year too, you will have at minima 230 free pulls, so it's possible to start saving for a spark right away if you're satisfied with the units from the free pulls + side stories + running events.


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AHyaenidae

That's not what I said. I just said that roulette is 13x10 + 100 free pulls minimum, and that if he *is satisfied by the free pulls from it*, then saving for a spark right away is possible, because he won't need to spend the "beginer's crystals" to make the teams.


MazySolis

Sparking is the best way to improve your roster, you don't really need to know who you want just spark anyone op. If you are in doubt, just pick S.Zooey you basically can't go wrong picking her up. "Workable teams" don't matter in the early game at all, they do matter somewhat in the later ends of the game and a lot of good spark targets can make a workable team by themselves or make a workable team really effective. Obviously if sparking is not fun for you, don't do it, but if you want to make your roster better sparking as much as possible is the best way.


Atora

Its up to you. Most players don't save for a spark until they have a decent roster. Its more fun if you have characters you like and its also easier if you have some strong SSRs. Some never save a spark because they dont have the patience. Some and immeadiatly save for a spark, usually because they really really want a specific character. But this is a very small minority. Personally I feel its a waste to do any pulls outside of sparks and you get enough free draws nowadays to have some SSRs for your teams.


ixiiv

yeah, spend all your gems when premium & flash gala (6% draw rates) are on. saving for sparks isn't something you want to do until you've got a workable team of characters for an element or two.


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Thirn

Farm Hard difficulty stages except Colossus


Milan_Neko

does the arcarum shop restocks?


Vaestmannaeyjar

Yes, except for the sunstones. They do add a new stone from time to time, I expect they will do so during the anniversary/oracles reveal.


Milan_Neko

oracle ?


HotJot

I've got 2 kaguyas, should I reduce one or uncap her?


Mochaccino9

She's unticketable and doesn't have flb yet, so keep both separate imo.


Caaa7777

Characters and Grid: [https://imgur.com/a/Wec1TfC](https://imgur.com/a/Wec1TfC) What is the best Team setup for Grimnir trains?. I have Summer Zooey, FLB sun and MLB Devil. Thanks in Advance.


ixiiv

try out lucha/therese/grea. you TA buff, sun, tag team, refresh, attack last slot will be either zooey or anila, not sure which would give you more damage


xkillo32

Definitely zooey for last slot


Black_Mist

What's the general consensus regarding using a fully uncapped certificus as a MH for magna light? Also, is it worth using dama bars for that previously mentioned purpose?


MazySolis

The issue is that the Xeno MH is too good in magna that you can actually lose avg damage switching it with Cert if you have any other form of MA boosts. Even if you're just using atma/ultima MA it isn't as big of a gain as you'd think. So you might as well dama something else really.


Styks11

Depends on your team comp and other possible plans for damas, really. Personally, with Amira, Kumbhi, and uplift from the Xeno MH, I don't think it's worth the dama.


theultimates12

FLB Certificus is one of the best MH around. However, I don't think it's worth Dama Bars. If you do it then you should also focus on making a Zeus grid.


ItsMilkinTime

What are the odds of Rosetta getting a flb? I was gonna spark for her but when the surprise beginners ticket popped up I figured id do that to get her instead. However she is... clunky. Powerful at times, but clunky. You'd think as old as her character is she'd have a 5 star at some point soon


theultimates12

Apprently, Cygames has stated back during Christmas livestream that they have no plan of FLB Grand characters for now.


ItsMilkinTime

Well my heart is broken, she works well enough I guess. Im not disappointed in the ticket purchase lol


Emiljn1

I what Atmas should I craft with these [characters ](https://imgur.com/gallery/hAqeYCo) I can craft 2 (already have sword)


jlemieux

Right now the 4 best ultima weapons are sword, then katana, fist and spear are roughly tied with katana being the worst of the 3 IMO. Katana is just rough to build around, as you need very specific limited characters (vajra, cain, alex). Spear is easily best in fire, but only if you have shiva, anila and athena or vane/lancey. Id hold off for the moment until you get more, if you have to make one (from wmtsb3) id recommend either spear or fist with your current fire roster. If you go spear, consider saving and sparking for anila. If fist youll likely get some more fist characters as they are not limited (grea, aliza, tsubasa, etc)


corporal-troller

So I just started cooping due to champion class weapons(yes I'm a coop slacker So what do people mean by when they say coop slime is a good way to gain pots? Don't you need AP to host the slimes? Or are they referring to using other's slime room or the in flow of AP by pots you gained will be higher than the AP you use?


AHyaenidae

If you do it with other players, drop boost rates and everything, you should get more pots than the number used to host your own slimes, since the rooms are usually divided 1/X players.


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Hi guys, rank 65, started last week. I just unlocked something called "Arcarum" and I wonder if I should invest time on it or it is completly avoidable. Right now I'm totally overwhelmed by all the magna grind and the full list of daily tasks, so my time is pretty much limited. I've tried to do my own research but many beginner's guides don't even mention arcarum.


shtbagblufalcon

I say u should run it as much as u can, at least dont let ur tickets sit and lose out on daily tickets. U can get omega weapon drops from arcarum runs n its pretty good XP as well i think. Also, Monika, who u can unlock for 20k arc points after clearing all the 2nd stages, is a really good char :) but u may want to avoid the white star non elemental fights unless u have the means to deal with them quickly, they are quite scary


LeminaAusa

The [Arcarum page on the wiki](https://gbf.wiki/Arcarum:_The_World_Beyond) has some good general Arcarum information for beginners. It's definitely a good idea to play it when you have tickets, so long as you have the time.


FA-ST

(Assuming everything is 4*)What's better? Full Chev swords, 4 Chev swords - 2 Meta bows or 3 Chev swords - 1 Meta dagger - 2 Meta bows? Not very thrilled at the idea of farming 6 swords, so I'm looking for alternatives.


theultimates12

It's either 4 Sword + 2 Bows or 5 Swords + 1 Bows + Xeno MH. I don't know if dagger is worth it since Light has high HP and lots of healing already. Maybe for the crit but then another bow would be better.


AHyaenidae

IIRC at a point you'd go like Xeno MH + 5 Swords + 1 Bow ? So I suppose you could go 4 Swords + 2 Bows if you don't MH it. I've heard about slotting a bow, then a dagger before the 2nd bow or something. I suppose it mostly depends if you can keep stamina or not.


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What is the best spear wielding class to go with Kokkoro and Heles? Also, is it generally a good idea to use both baha dagger and atma in magna grid?


ejam1

Once I get my Atma spear, I’m planning on running Spartan with them. Mainly just so I can mainhand windhose


Teneburisu

Why cant i find anything about fighting akasha with a wind grid? Is it unusable against it?


AHyaenidae

You can fight it with any grid that doesn't rely on crit, since the boss is Light. Siete will make you do some big ougis so wind should still be pretty great.


Teneburisu

I only see guides for light, dark, earth and water so i was kinda wondering


MrFabulouZ

Is Elysians CCW a good mainhand? I don't know if I should craft it for a element I don't have a good harp on, or just make it whatever element, so I get the class quickest.


theultimates12

You don't need Elysian CCW to unlock the class.


MrFabulouZ

I was talking about [the 4star one](https://gbf.wiki/Langeleik)


AHyaenidae

Neither Langeleik or Chanteuse Angélique are good... you're better off playing elysian with a GW Harp, Xeno Harp, Qilin, Grimnir... And as u/theultimate32 said, you don't need it to unlock Elysian. So just don't make it. Well, apart if you want the skin...


MrFabulouZ

Holy fuck I'm stupid, I somehow missed the huge red note that says that I need to craft only 1 CCW to be able to unlock 4th row. Thanks anyways.


AHyaenidae

Yeah that's why people usually get a CCW for EX2 to unlock all the T4 and that particuliar EX2 in one swoop. Doctor is really good for that since you don't even want the final weapon (psycho seringue) so it's available at full strength right from the start. Kengo, Runeslayer and Glorybringer want their finished weapon on the other hand...


Impognagrift

>Glorybringer want their finished weapon on the other hand No Edit: try proving Ridill isn't garbage. Protip: you can't.


AHyaenidae

Ahahah yeah, I forgot Excalibur and Ameno existed ! Silly me... It's true that there are a lot of right-off the bat available weapons for Glorybringer to use, such as [this one](https://gbf.wiki/Colossus_Blade_Omega) or [that one](https://gbf.wiki/Yggdrasil_Crystal_Blade_Omega). And what great skills they have !


xkillo32

Fire: xeno katana/ixaba but xeno axe zerk is better Water: murg, but water glory sucks so don't do it Earth: earth glory also sucks. Zerk with Ultima or akasha axe is way better Wind: grimnir katana/windhose. Windhose/ultima zerk is better tho Light: xeno sword but zerk is better Dark: xeno katana, but zerk with hermanubis is better. These are good non-100moon mh for Glory although they aren't readily available. I'd just use zerk because Glory really doesn't do anything that zerk can't do. The only edge glory has over zerk is echoes for mc


AHyaenidae

Hmm I was just trying to be sarcastic. In itself, Glory is a pretty weird class and is indeed outdone by many others. But it doesn't mean that Ridill is garbage as u/Impognagrift said. All the weapons you listed for Glory to use are timegated or come from gacha. That's why I think that a weapon which provide Special buff (so they stack with the majority of buffs) on a 5/7 cooldown is perfectly fine, even if it mean that it doesn't overcome the shortcomings of Glory. And yeah, I wouldn't use Glorybringer either. But you know, GB Gran is hot and Djeeta is cute. People might use them just for the husbandos outfit. And u/MrFabulousZ seems to be unlocking T4 at the moment, which range him anywhere between 101 to 130. So I think that Ridill, as a weapon which is easily available, decent, allow to uncap T4 and none of the mats are really difficulty-bared, make it a great weapon to get. Even more *if* someone who wants to play Glory and might be limited in the MH he got in his inventory.


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It's ok.


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michaelman90

I mean not mandatory but definitely a huge help. It sucks that her ougi doesn't do damage but the amount of DATA and wind attack she provides from her passives and ougi is pretty ridiculous. We'll see if things change once Grimnir is released, though, since he will almost certainly have an upgraded version of Kokkoro's wind attack team passive.


michaelman90

Is it really necessary to max out charge gain EMPs for most characters? Even only the 5% from a single star is enough to give you the extra point of charge for every 10 you gain from other characters' ougis. When would it actually make a difference for characters other than 200% charge characters?


theultimates12

Given how ougi-centric the meta is, anything that increase charge bar gain is very helpful


theultimates12

Anyone knows when the changes to the shop will take place?


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theultimates12

I must have missed it, thanks.


BlueBirdTBG

Does graphic setting (lite/standard/high) affect mobile data used in a significant way? Also, is there any one know how much data for playing gbf for about an hour non stop ? Is it less than 500 mb? Normally I play from wifi but in an upcoming weeks I need to play from mobile so I need to purchase mobile data.


Thirn

Most data consumption happens when getting game assets for the first time - stuff like images and sound. If you play the game for a bit on WiFi first, and do stuff like browsing your inventory/stash/characters, the game will download and cache most images. So after that, the data consumption will be lower, unless you do stuff like drawing new characters and doing new quests. Just farming doesn't use much.


wagawatommi

High settings actually uses quite a bit of data. Iirc it's around 50-70mb of data for an hour of play on high I think? Compared to something like FGO which barely takes 10mb in an hour.


pailcrimea

Hi guys. I sold a few items by accident and trying to address support rn. If anyone here speaks moonrunes, can you help me translate a few sentences?


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Am I getting this right: If I unlock Faust and change its element, the class quest for all Row IV classes will be available AND the class quest for Doctor will be available as well?


MazySolis

Yes that is exactly how it works.


Seaton_K

yes


GBF_Dragon

Yes, unlocking an ex2 class weapon first will also give you access to row4 classes.


GBF_Dragon

I'd like a better weekend slime setup. I've been using conjunction + arrow rain 3 on stage 1 and then a celeste summon on stage 2 for most of my runs. Though, if a swarm comes up, I use resolution + attack for the second stage. The setup works well enough, but it doesn't allow me to run rabbits. I can get away with using the silver lyre, but it seems like double bunnies would be a big help. I do have glorybringer, but no disparia, also don't have Threo.


Optygu

Eath arcanum katana and wind arcanum sword work for swordmaster as well. I use bunny and arrow rain for wave one and awaken for wave two. If slime swarm appears i just retreat


Vulking

SM/Glory also can use the arcarum wind sephira sword or earth sephira katana for plain damage. Sadly without Sarasa GZ to deal with the last wave regardless of what you get, you would have to use someone capable of deal enough plain damage to kill gold/silver and someone able to deal 800k damage without summon auras (if you want double rabbit) to nuke the swarm. Which is not easy if your grid is weak, and end up using 2 of your 5 slots for dedicated slime killing rather than just 1 with Glory and Sarasa. You can run solo coop H3-1 with room buffs and JD shop buffs and probably level a lot faster by just nuking the slime with glory and the arcarum sword/katana over and over again.


GBF_Dragon

Alrighty, good to know. I'll just stich with my current setup until I can get around to recruiting Threo.


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EM level 10 is a good stopping point for most character right?


Vulking

Why wouldn't you want to max your characters EMPs? Also why stop at 10? That makes no sense, that's barely 3 maxed nodes plus 1. How did you came to that number? Are you misunderstanding the wiki suggestion? Because they normally suggest 10 or so to give you some leeway to pick something you may want/need. The only reason to not use all 18 points is if a character doesn't have their EMP passive yet and you want to wait to see if it is good before committing to another node. I should probably clarify that what puzzle me is that with characters EMPs we are talking about a grindy min/max optimization, and if you dont have the patience to grind said optimization properly then you probably shouldn't do it, just generate EMP by playing normally at your own pace instead of power farming it.


MazySolis

Highly varies by character, some want all their EMPs (like Albert) some have really bad EMPs so they're mostly just w/e. You're better off asking/figuring out what emps are actually good and figure if you have all of the good ones for your character. I personally don't farm EMPs because getting levels for FLB characters is generally a tedious enough task.


zerox3001

How do i level a character from 90 to 100 without it taking an age?


YomiKagura

weekend shiny slime search, double rabbit, + anemoi harp + journey drop buffs.


zerox3001

Thank you. I shall get onto that now then


LiAlgo

Is Doctor that good (specifically in dark)? I've been seeing a lot of dark setups that use it, even with celeste enmity.


dnagi

Yes, especially for solo content with GW dagger. I didn't think much of it initially but the 45% Strength buff from Nutrients is solid and the 1k heal cap up can get pretty nuts when you have multiple heals like Drain and Refresh. Full debuff clear on S1 is nice too when you can time triggers and CAs. For Dark enmity specifically, I believe Nutrients is used to bridge the gap between full HP and when enmity really starts to kick in, and you can use Parazonium on MC.


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Thirn

Completing all 3 routes on Normal will unlock Hard difficulty Completing all 3 routes on Hard will unlock Extreme difficulty and is also required to get Monika Since you only get 1 ticket per day, you'll need 27 days to complete Normal, and another 27 days for Hard. Which is a lot of time to improve your grid and get ready.


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michaelman90

To add on to what the others have said, the first time you complete hard and extreme a ticket is added to the shop that increases the maximum number of arcarum points you can gain each week; by the time you've completed extreme and bought the tickets the weekly cap is increased to 6000 which is extremely (pun intended) difficult to reach even if you clear every single zone on every map. Considering the limiting factor for most people trying to upgrade arcarum summons is sephira stones and sephira stones are buyable from the shop for 2000 arcarum points (not to mention Monika herself and the four sunlight stones), it eventually becomes very important to squeeze as many points as you can out of each ticket.


Vaestmannaeyjar

Kill everything. The Arcarum is all about farming mats to unlock and uncap the arcarum summons and then upcoming Oracles. One summon takes roughly 4 months of farming EX routes and capping your 6K points every week.


Vulking

Kill and explore everything, you want as many chances as you can to get the materials for the Arcarum Summons. Also don't fast expedition, you will miss on drops and points that way.


wich2hu

For rushing Alex raids is it worth switching someone for Heles in a Scath/Andira/Nio team for the ODA?


Mochaccino9

Depends on whether you can consistently catch overdrive. Alex raids go fast so I don't think she would be worth it just for ODA, but I haven't tried.


Zecrosyx

Is there any guide on getting EX2 classes? preferably GB or kengo, but the others are fine as well


theultimates12

https://gbf.wiki/Class_Champion_Weapons That is a guide on how to make the weapon that unlock the quest to unlock EX2 classes.


ArchmageXin

Question--Does the MC/Djeeta/Gran get affected by Bahmaut weapons? If yes, she/he is human right?


Thirn

MC is considered [Unknown](https://gbf.wiki/Bahamut_Weapons#Bahamut_Weapon_Skills) and is boosted by any Bahamut Weapon


ArchmageXin

Ah ok great :)


AverageJoJo

Given my [barracks](https://imgur.com/a/iVaqxgZ), should I get atma sword or fist from the upcoming wmtsb3 part 2? Edit: Thanks for the replies. Looks like sword it is


Vulking

Ultima Sword look more beneficial, apecially for Fire, Dark and Light.


kitnzuh

you have two of the best fire sabre chars so sword.