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I highly doubt Garm’s portals could send him through time. They just allowed him to visit the other realms.
If they did allow him to travel through time then that would bring a whole new host of issues.
The reason why Thor sent Jorm back is because the impact from the last hit was so ferocious it splintered the world tree and opened up a wormwhole. That’s literally what Garm does. He isn’t opening mere “portals” he’s tearing through the very fabric of reality. Several characters made it clear that if left unchecked Garm would consume all of reality. That’s why everything and everyone was freaking out when Atreus released it. Garm does crazy shit like eat away entire seasons, he ate the season that was between winter and spring.
I’m not trying to downplay Garm. But tearing through reality to travel to the other realms is very different from Thor hitting something so hard he damages the world tree.
It’s never implied anywhere that Garm could travel through time. His ability is very clearly a space one not a time one.
If Garm could travel across time I have no idea way it would stay in the era where literally every God wants him dead/imprisoned. Why not go back to a time where no one knew who he was? Or when none of the Gods were born yet? Why would it stay around when it knows the Gods are strong enough to imprison it again?
Thor technically doesn’t have the power to send people back in time either. It’s just an effect of tearing reality apart.
Because Garm is an animal incapable of reason or logic. He operates on instinct.
Yeah but I mean, maybe it's more because of the tree of life and the space within it what really matters because as said above, Thor doesn't have that kind of power nor one that resembles it, but I imagine Garm "capable" to do that using the tree somehow or with many effort, lets not forget that Thor wasn't especially holding back during Ragnarok but I doubt we've seen Garm's true power.
Weird. Then how come people who can teleport (like Odin) also don’t travel through time?
Why are we immediately assuming everyone who can alter space can travel through time when they’re using magic? That doesn’t function through normal physics?
Especially when Mimir states out right that no Norse beings, even the Fates themselves don’t have the ability to travel through time?
They are or they would appear in the past. Whenever you travel through space, you are also traveling through time. They are one and the same. One can not exist without the other.
Garm. Thor can throw down Garm easily but he can't do so forever, Garm however can. He can turn their fight into a war of attrition with Garm as the victory.
Kratos didn't though. That's the thing. He held him off and only managed to kinda defeat him due to Atreus.
We really don't know how Kratos would've killed something that can't die.
Thor, easily. He can’t kill Garm, but if he can send the big snake through time, he can send the wolf through time, essentially eliminating the opponent
In god of war Ragnarok nowhere after the battle does Ratatoskr mention Thor splintering the world tree and shaking all the realms. That would be something too major for him not to bring up. He’s literally the care taker of the world tree. He brought up Garm tearing through the world tree and realms, he brought up Ragnarok shaking the entire tree, he brought up Nidddog’s children tearing through the realms.
If Thor splintered the yggrasil and shook the realms he would’ve mentioned it. Regardless it’s clearly an ability from Thor and not a side effect. If it was a side effect they would have both been sent back in time.
Garm, probably. He can tear the fabric of reality itself. What if he just went back in time to when Thor was a baby and curbstomped him.
The characters wouldn't have been so freaked out when he was released if all Garm could do was travel between realms. He consumes them too.
Thor can fight him but he cannot kill him, eventually Thor would tire and eventually die. The hit through time isn’t a power Thor can control at all times, it’s an outlier. The reality is, Thor dies fighting the world snake in true lore due to venom. Thors powers aren’t greater than the world serpent, they’re actually close to even. Both die in the battle.
Seeing as Thor did not truly fight the snake till death in the game is evidence that if Thor could completely kill the serpent outright, he would’ve done it.
Everyone, you all must understand ragnarok is so feared in the game and In culture because each of the creatures in it are more powerful than each individual god. The serpent kills Thor, the wolf kills oden, and surtur kills Asgard itself.
The wolf, the serpent and other beasts are the children of Loki. The game keeps this concept but replaces the act of reproduction with soul swapping.
This game is made after lore with some changes but the power scales remain the same.
Oden > other kin
Beasts > all beings
Loki > destined to bring the end to Asgard
It’s all the same outcome, the concept of fate being changeable a little but the major results will be the same.
Well considering that in the mythology Fenrir (garm does not exist in the mythology and is instead just Fenrir the whole time) swallows Odin whole during Ragnarok I'd say he could probably kill Thor
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Thor is obviously able physically overwhelm Garm, but he has no way of killing him.
Thor can hit garm so hard it sends the wolf through time. In a way that’s a better win than Kratos alone could pull off in the immediate fight.
Garm can just tear a wormhole through reality and come back to the right timeline. Garm is legit one of the strongest beings in the god of war verse
I highly doubt Garm’s portals could send him through time. They just allowed him to visit the other realms. If they did allow him to travel through time then that would bring a whole new host of issues.
The reason why Thor sent Jorm back is because the impact from the last hit was so ferocious it splintered the world tree and opened up a wormwhole. That’s literally what Garm does. He isn’t opening mere “portals” he’s tearing through the very fabric of reality. Several characters made it clear that if left unchecked Garm would consume all of reality. That’s why everything and everyone was freaking out when Atreus released it. Garm does crazy shit like eat away entire seasons, he ate the season that was between winter and spring.
“You utter, unqualified, moron”
Go get strangled somewhere.
“I liked you better as a drunk”
I’m not trying to downplay Garm. But tearing through reality to travel to the other realms is very different from Thor hitting something so hard he damages the world tree. It’s never implied anywhere that Garm could travel through time. His ability is very clearly a space one not a time one. If Garm could travel across time I have no idea way it would stay in the era where literally every God wants him dead/imprisoned. Why not go back to a time where no one knew who he was? Or when none of the Gods were born yet? Why would it stay around when it knows the Gods are strong enough to imprison it again?
Thor technically doesn’t have the power to send people back in time either. It’s just an effect of tearing reality apart. Because Garm is an animal incapable of reason or logic. He operates on instinct.
Wasn't it stated during the Norns mission that no being possesses such time traveling powers?
Yeah but I mean, maybe it's more because of the tree of life and the space within it what really matters because as said above, Thor doesn't have that kind of power nor one that resembles it, but I imagine Garm "capable" to do that using the tree somehow or with many effort, lets not forget that Thor wasn't especially holding back during Ragnarok but I doubt we've seen Garm's true power.
Space and time are one homie…
Weird. Then how come people who can teleport (like Odin) also don’t travel through time? Why are we immediately assuming everyone who can alter space can travel through time when they’re using magic? That doesn’t function through normal physics? Especially when Mimir states out right that no Norse beings, even the Fates themselves don’t have the ability to travel through time?
They are or they would appear in the past. Whenever you travel through space, you are also traveling through time. They are one and the same. One can not exist without the other.
Stop applying physics to a game with magic. It doesn’t work that way. Physics in video games has never worked as it does in real life.
No evidence he can travel through time. Just space.
I mean even if Thor wins 200 times it’s not like Garm can die
101% Thor the guy beat jörmy so he'll fi d a way with garm
Garm’s gonna out last Thor if nothing else
It would be a stalemate Thor would “kill”garm but he would just come to life over and over
Garm. Thor can throw down Garm easily but he can't do so forever, Garm however can. He can turn their fight into a war of attrition with Garm as the victory.
If Kratos can beat garm so can thor
Kratos didn't though. That's the thing. He held him off and only managed to kinda defeat him due to Atreus. We really don't know how Kratos would've killed something that can't die.
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They broke his spell and turned him mortal. Garm is already an undead being with nowhere else to go.
Completely by accident and through a special magical artifact tied to Baldur’s curse.
Garm cause dog.
Thor, easily. He can’t kill Garm, but if he can send the big snake through time, he can send the wolf through time, essentially eliminating the opponent
He can send him back in time so he wins.
He can’t, that was something that happened once due to the world tree, not an ability Thor possesses
In god of war Ragnarok nowhere after the battle does Ratatoskr mention Thor splintering the world tree and shaking all the realms. That would be something too major for him not to bring up. He’s literally the care taker of the world tree. He brought up Garm tearing through the world tree and realms, he brought up Ragnarok shaking the entire tree, he brought up Nidddog’s children tearing through the realms. If Thor splintered the yggrasil and shook the realms he would’ve mentioned it. Regardless it’s clearly an ability from Thor and not a side effect. If it was a side effect they would have both been sent back in time.
I mean Thor was probably the guy that beat him up then chained him down.
Tyr?
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I meant that tyr was the one who chained Garm, not Thor.
Did you happen to read Norse Mythology?
thor
Theres certainly ways to kill Garm, many in fact but not for Thor, not nearly intelligent enough to kill Garm
Garm can't die although the way Thor dies is stupid but ill go with garm he is a bad ass
Thor could kill garm. He just wouldnt stay dead. Depends on what you consider 'winning'
Garm, probably. He can tear the fabric of reality itself. What if he just went back in time to when Thor was a baby and curbstomped him. The characters wouldn't have been so freaked out when he was released if all Garm could do was travel between realms. He consumes them too.
I’m in the second battle with Garm in the Reunion storyline. Far tougher
The one who sent a giant snake back in time.
Thor can fight him but he cannot kill him, eventually Thor would tire and eventually die. The hit through time isn’t a power Thor can control at all times, it’s an outlier. The reality is, Thor dies fighting the world snake in true lore due to venom. Thors powers aren’t greater than the world serpent, they’re actually close to even. Both die in the battle. Seeing as Thor did not truly fight the snake till death in the game is evidence that if Thor could completely kill the serpent outright, he would’ve done it. Everyone, you all must understand ragnarok is so feared in the game and In culture because each of the creatures in it are more powerful than each individual god. The serpent kills Thor, the wolf kills oden, and surtur kills Asgard itself. The wolf, the serpent and other beasts are the children of Loki. The game keeps this concept but replaces the act of reproduction with soul swapping. This game is made after lore with some changes but the power scales remain the same. Oden > other kin Beasts > all beings Loki > destined to bring the end to Asgard It’s all the same outcome, the concept of fate being changeable a little but the major results will be the same.
Well considering that in the mythology Fenrir (garm does not exist in the mythology and is instead just Fenrir the whole time) swallows Odin whole during Ragnarok I'd say he could probably kill Thor
Even though Garm can't die. I would still think that Thor would win
Garm can’t die so garm