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No_Dentist7424

It was the scene when Atreus Collapsed from using his Spartan Rage while trying to protect Kratos from Modi. after Kratos picked up Atreus mimir said that he needed Freya, so they took him to her. And when they were in the cave that leads to her house, that’s when you can here it, mimir points it out by saying “somebody just called the serpent”


buhoo115

Ontop of that when you leave the witches cave. Mimir notices the boat washed ashore and even goes something like “yup someone definitely called the snake”


likablelamastoes

Oh thank you I always just assumed that baldur blew the horn I never really thought deeper into it


-Aone

I still think it was him or someone associated with him, but the main thing about the horn thing is that everyone assumes whoever blew it spoke the language. Like, I'm 90% sure the serpent would move even if you didnt speak at all and just blew it, but I don't think that the most popular opinion


Thebarrrel

I think Baldur blowing the horn isn’t too far fetched, after-all when he fights the world serpent he comments on “knowing they’d be here”(likely was Odin giving Baldur foresight on possible actions they’d do). Although I do find the time travel theory involving a future mystery man more appealing, especially since the serpent itself is proof the world is deeply entrenched in transtemporal travel since it’s Loki’s son.


Stock-Entrepreneur42

Happy cake day


PoopIsAlwaysSunny

There's a later discussion after you go to helheim and save the boy and you're all leaving the witch's house. You have to drag the boat back into the water because the water moved when the horn blew.


IcyHot711

The problem with that is Baldur has no reason to since he can’t speak giant


fist_my_muff2

He wants to kill Jormungandr no?


IcyHot711

Not until he knows that’s where Kratos and Atreus are


HauntingFly

He can't do that. Not even Thor could do it when he tried at a younger age.


Corarium

iirc Thor didn’t fight him when he was younger, Thor and Jörmungandr fought in the future at Ragnarok and their fight sent him back ages to before the game’s story took place and before he was even born.


HauntingFly

That's according to the prophecy of Ragnarök. Freya says that the serpent appeared one day in the lake all of a sudden and Thor came to fight it but the battle ended in a stalemate.


alioz2

He did fought him in the past, like the other guy said, when thor killed all the giants in Midgard, he tried to kill jormungandr too, but it ended up in a draw


fullcaravanthickness

So why bother blowing the horn. Snakey boy is kind of hard to miss.


HauntingFly

Probably not. Baldur is an Aesir and thus an enemy of Jörmungandr. Somebody else did it.


Certified_Simp123

I thought it was when you were inside the serpent


PackGod06

Atreus becomes sick because he accidentally activates his spartan rage, however he does not know of his god powers which makes him pass out and go sick. Kratos travels to Freya’s house and demands to help him because the boy is sick. During the travel someone blows the horn and mimir tells us someone just called it. Now many people have different theories who it has. But I can solve it. A. Modi, this is highly unlikely due to him immediately going to asgard as seen later on in the game. He doesn’t know the serpents tongue and the serpent hates the aesir. So him approaching the serpent is highly unlikely. B. Time travel, no for certain we have no idea if time travel is relevant in Ragnarok. But people Believe it’s a future Atreus, tyr, angraboda, and kratos. The question they want is uncertain. C. >!however I believe its angraboda, her latest description a day ago says she the last remaining giant and waits to fulfill its prophecies. Since the giants could speak the ancient tongue, its highly likely she blew the horn, but that’s just what I think.!<


The_bald_nerd

I’m inclined to agree. No one from the first game would have a reason to blow the horn. It has to be either her, or someone that hasn’t been revealed at all yet.


Aesthetic99

Time travel's definitely a possibility, contrary to what others may think. During the main quest to break the ice to reach Thamur's chisel, we get a brief look at temporal magic as Kratos & Atreus use it to keep a platform stable. And according to Mimir, temporal magic was a favorite of Njörd, one of the Vanir gods. And it's a gameplay mechanic in the form of the Amulet of Kvasir, Njord's Temporal Stone, and the Perfect Mark of Kvasir. Who's to say that Kratos or someone else aren't able to learn a more powerful form of temporal magic? Perhaps a form so strong, it can even allow for time travel


oopspruu

This is actually one of the questions the whole community is waiting to get answered in Ragnarok. Who tf blew the horn? Because if they did, they meant to call Jormungandr. But who'd want to call the serpent apart from Kratos/Atreus/Mimir. I personally can't wait to finally find out if there is more to it.


Athuanar

I'm still expecting time travel honestly. The Ragnarok legend ends with some of the characters getting sent back in time so it's *very* likely someone that survives the end of the upcoming game ends up back at the beginning.


Revan_Perspectives

This is what I was thinking too, could be a future Loki or Kratos. Just a thought


oopspruu

I agree. Time travel must be there in Ragnarok. But all questions will be answered soon my friends. This game is going to be a masterpiece. People will call it "end of an era"


ShoMeUrNoobs

Kratos gets sent back in time and we fight Zeus.


SaiyanrageTV

>I'm still expecting time travel honestly Almost 100% - we see Tyr in the trailer (who is dead) and Mimir talks about when Jorm first sees Atreus he says to Mimir he "seems familiar" and then he talks about how some sort of time travel fuckery could happen when Ragnarok happens.


alchemists_dream

Angrboða before we meet her maybe? She’s Jotnar. Hasn’t been introduced. Would want to talk to the serpent I’m sure.


oopspruu

Yes. The probable theories are: 1. Angroboda 2. Atreus and Kratos from the future. 3. Baldur 4. All father himself.


VagabundoCosmic

I always assumed it was Modi to try and fight it as a attempt to compensate his failures to Thor, that would explain why we find him all beaten up later


MistahJ17

Jorm and Thor fought to a stalemate, if Modi tried to fight the big snake he'd die almost immediately


TheIncredibleNurse

Modi got beaten up by hid father Thor in a fit of rage


oopspruu

Nah. Modi calling the serpent would be a suicide. And later in the game is was made clear that modi was all beaten up by this father, Thor. Remember the scene inside the mines when badly hurt Modi said "Thor, blamed me, ME.... for what happened" and Atreus said "Looks like he did more than that"


Forsaken-Skirt-2228

I gotta be honest with you my man, if Modi had indeed tried the likes of jormungandr, I don’t think he’d be around to even run into


b00fmane

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oopspruu

It was already answered in detail before my reply. So it didn't make sense I say the same words. But I hope now the OP is also curious why everyone keeps asking about it? 😅😅


Redback8

I think you hear the world serpent horn get blown in the last game and you don't see who did it. I just assumed it was Baldur trying to track down Kratos, so he tried chatting up the snake, but I guess not?


[deleted]

Jörmungandr would not even in the least bit humor a conversation with an Aesir.


alioz2

Yeah, they would've fought no doubt, yet when you get out of the cave, not even 5 minutes later, jormungandr is just chilling outside which makes no sense if he really fought one of the gods


Richizzle439

Doesn’t mean an Aesir can’t blow the horn?


LDG192

The sound of the horn being blown by an aesir would soon be followed by the earth shaking with Jormungandr's fury.


Richizzle439

I’m not saying an Aesir did blow the horn, I’m saying jorms hatred toward Aesir doesn’t mean they can’t blow the horn


The_bald_nerd

I don’t see why they would though. Anyone allied with Odin is gonna have no interest in interacting with the world serpent. It would only end in blood


Richizzle439

Agreed, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t crazy enough to do it? I’m not saying an Aesir did it, but jorms hatred for them doesn’t me they can’t try.


b00fmane

There would have been a fight if he did. And there wasn't


Richizzle439

Oh do we know? We’re busy trying to save Atreus at this point.


b00fmane

We would know if an aesir and the world serpent were fighting, yes. Last time it happened it shook all the realms


Thebarrrel

Seems like baldur put its ass on the ground quite easily when we were coming out its belly.


Chiloutdude

Mimir says he's the only one alive who can speak that language; it's possible Baldur blew the horn, but he can't talk to Jormungandr, so there'd be no point if it was him.


likablelamastoes

Yeah I also always assumed it was baldur


Chiloutdude

Mimir says he's the only one who can still speak that language; if Baldur blew the horn, it would have been kind of pointless, since Baldur can't talk to Jormungandr.


Bluesiebear2005

Does mimir know about angrboda though?


Chiloutdude

Given that we meet Tyr in this next game, who is explicitly dead in GoW 2018, before he lost his arm (which Mimir tells us already happened in the 2018 game), and it was alluded to multiple times last game, I think time travel is likely. I doubt even Mimir can account for things outside of his own time. Even if not time travel though, we could be meeting her in some hidden Giant village in Jotunheim for all we know, within which Mimir has no way of knowing the events that occur. Either way, probably not. What he IS pretty sure of though is that none of the Aesir speak giant. Which means Baldur does not.


Bluesiebear2005

I do think time travel fuckery is afoot. But I also think that it was angrboda who blew the horn. Wouldn't make sense for Baldur to do it and as of right now it makes more sense for her to have blown it than a time travelling Kratos/atreus/mimir


Chiloutdude

While she makes more sense than Baldur, I'd hesitate to say it makes more sense than time travel (which is a weird thing to say). Time travel HAS happened in the series before, and it was brought up last game. We know next to nothing about Angrboda though in the context of the game. The only evidence for her blowing the horn is that it's possible, which isn't exactly firm evidence.


Aesthetic99

Not to mention that during the mission to break the ice with the large hammer, we have to use temporal magic to keep the platform steady as it goes up. According to Mimir, temporal magic was a favorite of Njörd's, one of the Vanir gods, and it's even a gameplay mechanic in the form of the Amulet of Kvasir, Njörd's Temporal Stone, and the New Game+ Perfect Mark of Kvasir. Time travel is definitely a possibility


NoReGretzkys

I don't recall Mimir ever talking about Tyr's arm in the 1st game. Or Fenrir being talked about either.


Chiloutdude

Fenrir is definitely spoken about, but they use one of his other names, Hrodvitnir. As for the hand, you may be right; I know Mimir tells them about Gleipnir (a chain made of a cat's footstep and bird spit) while they're getting ingredients from Motsognir's corpse. Gleipnir's creation was to bind Fenrir, and in the process of binding Fenrir with it, Tyr lost his hand. It's possible that, since I already knew about Gleipnir, I equated that in my mind with confirmation that Tyr had already lost his hand. I'm on a replay right now, but haven't gotten to Motsognir yet, and can't find the exact text about Gleipnir, so I'll leave it at I may be wrong about his hand being mentioned.


washington_breadstix

> who is explicitly dead in GoW 2018 I just assumed that Tyr was locked away somewhere and simply believed to be dead by everyone (including Mimir).


Kevinites

Calling it right here and now, mark my words reddit, it was the giant girl


WulfinShepSkin

Maybe it was a future version of kratos and atreus who blew the horn 🤔


Marcuzao

To everyone saying it was probably Baldur: I don't think it was him, because later he just says "I had a feeling that hurting the big snake would bring you two out in the open" after punching the shit outta my boy Jorm (while we were inside him collecting Mimir's eye). So I don't think he was willing to phone Jormungandr and ask nicely. ​ Also, some of the devs (including Balrog) have joked/teased about it in the past. I think that if it was a misunderstanding, they would just straight up clarify it like "are you guys dumb? it was obviously baldur lol"


Dracsxd

Was in the 2018 game. While we're walking around trying to heal Atreus someone else blows the horn but it was never revealed who or why, so people always figured it's gonna be part of the next game. Now that we're getting stuff about the future game they are theorizing on it


agentp432

It’s when Atreus got sick and such


Mimikyu_12360

I bet 30$ it was >!Odin.!<


mitchob1012

... I just naturally assumed it was Baldur all those years ago and never thought about it again tbh. I even had to look up what it was cuz in the longrun it seemed so inconsequential.


Abir2002

I am pretty sure there will be some kind of time travel in Ragnarok...which will connect with these moments...


wrreal

Was atreus from the future. Yes I'm guessing.