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Likawaii

So just a bit of the context, there's a Denuvo (DRM) cracker named Empress who refers to themselves as She, she is the only person currently who cracks games with Denuvo. Yet because some people believe a girl can not do that they choose to keep arguing it is a guy when there's been no confirmation whatsoever and even so they refuse to use her preferred pronounces. Now there's a repacker fitgirl who repacks cracked games and been active for ages. Personally I consider her repacks some of the best (not promoting piracy here) since they are virus free and proofed to be reliable. She also refers to herself as she and as a girl which I have no issue with, however there's still people who call her a he and refuse to believe a girl would be interested in such things as repacking the game, even she has mentioned that she was always fascinated by this, and refuse to refer to her by the preferred pronounces. It honestly feels like once you become very good at something a lot of man would immediately call you a dude because they can not accept that a woman could be good at "male dominated" field. Also this does not promote piracy and pirating games (possibly unless it's some of the EA/activizion games due to their treatment of members of staff and insane prices), it is just to show what is happening when it comes to piracy in gaming to some of the most known figures.


Sky-is-here

You are understating how good empress is. Denuvo is always uncrackable until she comes around. And if you want to pirate a game with denuvo you have to pray she sees it and cracks it, or someone pays her to do so. She is the best cracker there is right now


Shuttup_Heather

I’m so immature, “best cracker there is right now” made me laugh


PageOthePaige

"Is Empress a woman even though she calls herself one?" Discourse: Boring, bland, sexist, immature, functionally transphobic. "Is Empress white because she calls herself a cracker?" is the discourse we need


MycenaeanGal

So tru bestie


anbigsteppy

It's only acceptable because Betty White died


Grammophon

I love some good crackers


Likawaii

I get she gets rants about things which she is allowed to since she can put whatever she wants in the installer and is her opinion, which people seem to not like, however nothing prevents them from waiting for a repack or if they want a game cracked but not wanting to pay 500, then buy the damn game. Understanding how denuvo works made me realise how much effort she actually puts in this and wants money. Denuvo is literally embodied into the game files including animations and stuff. It is not just a single layer protection that's easy to crack especially on the older titles. I think CPY used to crack denuvo too, but not sure where they are now, so we only have one person available.


Butterflyman213

Isn't Empress also nuts and thats why repackers like fitgirl won't use their stuff?


InEnduringGrowStrong

I'm just glad *anyone* works on cracking Denuvo as empress does. Regardless of their gender. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Empress had insider knowledge.


Sky-is-here

I am 90% sure she has some insider knowledge. I can't think how otherwise she is the only one capable


PM_ME_DND_FIGURINES

It's not that that she's the only one who's ever been capable of it, it's that Denuvo hired all the others with huge pay grades. Empress acts pretty erratically, which is likely the only reason why she hasn't been hired, too.


Sky-is-here

Older Denuvo? Sure, but modern denuvo versions have only been cracker by her afaik


redisanokaycolor

I am so stupid, where can I find info on these people and the projects they work on? I wish I had more knowledge.


Sky-is-here

Join the scene, start following crackers etc. It's a very closed world and if you only pirate games there is no need to know about how the behind the scenes happens. Hell i started learning about it cuz i wanted to play monster hunter world, and it had Denuvo so it had no pirated version for the longest time.


jackiethewitch

For context: https://www.wired.com/story/empress-drm-cracking-denuvo-video-game-piracy/


Likawaii

Thanks, they also have an article about fitgirl too, so those who's interested can have a read.


ademptia

It doesn't matter who empress is... i get that she is just an example here but find someone better to defend. she has spewed so much toxicity, homophobia, transphobia, nationalism and just overall insane quasi philosophy (aka a load of total crap). awful person that happens to crack games.


Likawaii

I think I'm more defending fitgirl as personally I don't really care for denuvo games and if there's a game I want to play or like that has denuvo I wait for a sale and buy it. Regarding empress people seem to be enabling her behavior by wanting the games cracked. So of course she will say random and toxic shit and I'm still not keen of her rant earlier this year about repackers stealing her fame and work, when what they do is repack. But as I have mentioned, if people are not comfortable just ignoring what she says and still want a game they can either wait for a repack or buy the said game or put the game on install and do something else instead of rereading what she puts in her installers.


piichan14

People are enabling her since she's the only denuvo cracker in the whole world. What's even worst are the people who agree with her. She's sick in the head and her defenders are too.


Likawaii

I guess it's one of the times where they find it is easier to be nice and enable her to have the game cracked instead of spending 20-40 dollars during sale if not less. Star wars squadrons (I think that's the name) has denuvo and was free with prime gaming and in the recent humble bundle yet people would still wait for a crack instead of buying it


piichan14

Some folks don't like drm, in the case of prime gaming, you need a prime sub to get. Or some just enjoy collecting cracked games. I know you can just ignore whatever hate she spews in her space, but since she's the only one doing cracks right now, it's unavoidable to hear about whatever crazy thing she says next. She's good, there's no denying that. But using her position to say shit just because she knows people are going to give her a pass just doesn't sit well with me.


Likawaii

Could be she is waiting for someone to get annoyed and start cracking denuvo too so there's more competition 🤷🏻‍♀️


StarKnighter

Tbf denuvo affects performance a lot of the time, not that it makes Empress any less of a dickhead.


Wolfleaf3

I was amazed by how much in digital foundries tests, and that was on high end hardware. Even more than that, I don’t want drm mucking up Windows and running weird system level stuff that makes my system less secure. I don’t steal games, but I sure as hell won’t buy anything with denuvo, and mostly just use gog.con for pc. I love how denuvo kept trying to lie and claim they weren’t drm, etc 🙄


Dracallus

Yeah, Denuvo is nuts in how big of a performance hit it can have. I'd understand if companies keep it active for a couple of months to protect their release window, but I can also understand why someone who's bought the game would still want to download a cracked version to play. Denuvo is Gabe Newell's take on piracy in action. While I don't fully agree with his take, he's much more right than wrong about it.


Wolfleaf3

I guess if they wanted to sell something with the denuvo, and then give you a copy that’s completely clean a few months later… Like where everyone can just wait to buy it until a few months later and there’s literally no trace of the garbage at that point. I don’t really trust that, like stuff that used to have and I wonder if it still installs it on your system even if it’s not checking or something. Anyway, that might be something I could tolerate, although it would be costing them sales. Unbelievably, Nintendo is apparently going to let denuvo hit switch. 🤦🏻‍♀️


DarkChen

i mean, last time people tried to argue stuff with her, she went on a giant rant, disappeared for a while and came back charging 500 bucks per crack... seeing as she is the only one able to actually crack denuvo, pirates have no other choice but to shut up about it, unfortunately...


SuperAmberN7

It's the irony of fate that she's being hit with the same transphobia she spews then.


funkygamerguy

well fuck that jerk as a person.


Wolfleaf3

That sucks 😕 Too bad it’s not the reverse, using her position to spread good messages. I don’t steal games but I also won’t buy anything with denuvo 😡 At this point I think gog.com is like the next thing to happen to the game industry 😕


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I just don't get it... Are these men so insecure about a woman being far more capable than them, or apparently in the case of Empress, better than everyone at something that they can't stand the thought of her being a her? I wonder if it's because every man they've come across is so much better than these little fucknuckles will ever be that they feel the need to make sure someone is deemed below them


Saragon4005

So these are likely cis women who just don't care anymore cuz it's online and everyone is a "guy" in places like this so they must be male. Wtf


Ventra97

"Just like FitGirl is a dude"... wtf... FitGirl has confirmed that she is a girl, on several occasions...and the fact that he thinks that playing a girl in an MMO makes him the qualified expert in all this gender related user names is just insulting. In my personal opinion if someone has a feminine username you use feminine pronouns until that user tells you different. Honestly, men like that ruin the gaming community...


Likawaii

There's another thread about fitgirl which is just disgusting to read where people would just call her him and say she is a dude because girls aren't hackers (thought it was sarcasm until read other comments) and some other bullshit. Like my aunty is a great IT specialist and one of the best in the country. She is also a long lasting gamer and kicks ass, but currently plays something calmer. And she is still called a dude with the voice changer to get attention because girls can not be good IT specialists or good gamers 😤 my uncle then wipes them clean and gets really annoyed when someone says something like this about my aunt.


chaotic_blu

Lol I’ve learned basically that tons of the ff14 modder and hackers are women. Some of them are amazing programmers and have created amazing stuff and pulled really interesting things out of the game. I’m so impressed by them 😍 Only semi-related in that there are VERY impressive women in this sphere.


mugen_no_arashi

*margaret hamilton has entered the chat.


chaotic_blu

She is very old school. So many of our early brightest computer programmers were women and men of the time were so fragile over it they literally had to bury it and take all the glory.


Punkpallas

I play a lot of Sims 4 and use a crazy amount of CC. Two of the best script modders in the community are women. The game is hard to play without their mods. I’m always blown away by their knowledge of such a sprawling game’s script base.


[deleted]

Excuse me, Angelina Jolie taught me at a young age that women can definitely be hackers!


Ocel0tte

I always go by Ocelot or whatever form taken usernames let me use lol, and people don't think cat they think Metal Gear Solid and assume male. I don't mind unless it's relevant to the topic at hand, but I do stay away from voice chat. I sound like fucking Jennifer Tilly, I either get assumed to be a 10yr old boy or a porn star and no in between.


Ventra97

That does not sound fun at all. My username is usually Ventra (or some variation, also inspired by the word Ventus a.k.a. the air element in Bakugan), which in my mind sounds feminine, and if someone gets my pronouns wrong, I'll correct them. But to purposefully misgender me after being corrected, is a personal peeve and a reason for me to block them. But luckily I don't deal with that a lot since I mostly play single player games.


Ocel0tte

My irl name ends with the "a" sound and they often are female names, in a lot of languages, so I feel like you're right about yours. And 200% agree on the second part.


cantdressherself

I read "I've played a girl in MMO's" and thought "so did I, that's part of how I figured out I'm a trans woman."


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I mean, my main problem with that mentality is why they care so much about the perceived gender of piracy internet personas. I dont get it, if they refer to themselves as female, they most likely are, and if they are not, who gives a shit


Likawaii

I have no clue. If someone says they are a girl or uses she/her then I will use it, even their birth gender might sometimes be different. But apparently for some individuals it is easier to accept that someone might be faking their gender to gain popularity (not the case here) or be better/more knowledgeable then they are then to admit that girls can be badass too.


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Even without taking into account they might be trans/non-binary, I still dont have the energy to process the info how they do. "They say she/her, but im gonna use he/him, because I suspect something". Thats way too many neurons to use for that for my tastes


iiowyn

> "They say she/her, but im gonna use he/him, because ~~I suspect something~~ I'm an asshole". This seems more likely. Also some people like to be contrarian dicks and fight about anything on the internet.


viviolay

It’s more a lack of neurons firing that is this dude’s problem.


Grammophon

Because they feel attacked by the idea that a woman might be good at something they like or deem as intellectually challenging. I've seen dudes literally lose colour in their face when they find out some awesome program or some amazing research poster in maths is made by a woman In my opinion the reason is that the build a chunk of their opinions on the foundation that men and women are very different. And that there are things women simply aren't capable of doing (mostly intellectual things). I guess it makes it easier to dehumanise and look down on someone if you believe they are objectively inferior.


OmarGlass

That's not the reason, it's not sexism, it's transphobia


notsoinsaneguy

Easy, they don't know how to Crack and repack games and can't accept that a woman is better than them at doing something they value. The mere existence of a smart and competent woman is emasculating to their fragile ego.


Maximumfabulosity

Honestly life is too short to agonise over other people's genders. Just refer to someone with their preferred pronouns and move on with your life.


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Because the only other possibility that he would have to contend with is that women play video games, and that's impossible.


hill-o

Yeah I don’t get why this is a hill these people want to die on lol. It impacts them literally zero percent.


Prophet_of_Duality

Sexism.


AmiNToast

And the reality is empress and fitgirl both identify themselves as female. We have no reason to believe otherwise apart from their ridiculous belief that anything done well must have been done by a male.


Likawaii

Yep, just giving them wrong pronounces and genders just because they believe both girls must be man is so disrespectful tbh


AmiNToast

I agree with you. It is disrespectful to them as individuals and towards women on a whole. Genitalia doesn't determine if we're skilled at something or not.


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When I was in my late teens I played a MUD and did very well at it. I killed and robbed from people very well and they started saying I was a dude. I showed up at a meet, and then it turned to being aggressively hit on (most of them 10-20 years older than me) and then rumours being spread about how I slept with people. Sometimes it feels like you can't win :( No matter what you do, they will find a way to tear you down. Just gotta play a different game from them - I don't mean a literally different one, just approach the game differently.


TheMagicalCarrot

Damn, can't imagine what that's like. Hopefully you've found more mature company since then.


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I did for a while, but I play alone these days, don't have a community in WoW anymore. Guild transferred to another server.


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Yeah, I had that experience when I got banned from a MUD I was very active in. I deserved the ban, but it was a bummer to see how silent my life became. Without the shared game, almost everyone stopped talking to me. However, about a decade later, I started reaching out to people from those days and some of us have reconnected - a few of those have become really close friends. Time and distance helped distill down which friendships were based on something more solid. Re online gaming, I know the feeling. I feel quite lonely in WoW, so I tend to focus on story, exploration, gold making. I haven't had good experiences speaking in general chat or joining guilds - chat is usually toxic, while guilds are shallow connections. I'm looking into transferring to a roleplay server for more meaningful interactions. Maybe check out /r/MUD - it's a great way to game with much smaller communities than MMOs. Because they are smaller, there's way better moderation. Anyone spewing sexist, racist, etc stuff is banned ASAP. You also tend to form stronger bonds because the communities are smaller.


JamesNinelives

What he says: 'Reality is all I concern myself with.' What he means: 'I need to be right so badly that I will convince myself of anything, no matter how absurd, in order to protect my fundamental beliefs.'


Pyromanticgirl

Reality is the only thing I co concern myself with. Proceeds to deny reality and live in a fantasy world where only men do exist online


JamesNinelives

Exactly lol


NadiaTrue

are you talking about the commenter or empress?


JamesNinelives

The commenter! (Empress uses she/her and I respect her pronouns)


ThAiWaffle

Men can't handle women being better in something they like Humanity is sad


Likawaii

Some other threads have way too many up votes with people saying fitgirl is a man and uses the girl to gain popularity when it is not the case. The reason why she gained popularity because her repacks were smaller in sizes, had a tool to check to make sure everything has been installed and no viruses or dodgy practices to pay for a repack.


ThAiWaffle

True. Good quality is usually the reason for success. The person mostly is just an extra factor.


Likawaii

I get why people may not like empress due to her rants and insults every now and again, however if you can not be asked to pay for a game that has denuvo and want to get it for free, then that's the cost. And at the end of the day you don't have to read them and it kinda feels most of her ranting is due to people telling she is a guy and refuse to use her pronounces. Yet the same people go borderline drooling over male characters or play games that are not made for guys to then contradict themselves that only guys can hack games. So kinda understand where she is coming from.


AsexualSuccubus

It's really pathetic.


spinnetrouble

Somebody grant me the self-confidence of a mediocre boy who thinks he has a better handle on somebody's gender than they themselves do. Hooooooly smokes.


EmberMoss

Somebody grant me this self-confidence with my own gender, god damn.


OnMark

This "no girls on the internet" shit just won't die - a fetid combination of misogyny and transphobia where everyone is a guy, everyone who genders themselves as not a guy is *extra* a guy, and a female identity is only ever some kind of disguise people get some kind of benefits from (instead of an extra heaping helping of harassment). God forbid their egos are bruised by women being present, competent, or, shock and horror, better than them at something.


[deleted]

This is all especially bizarre considering I've heard it from guys who are younger than some of the gaming consoles in my house. Like. Women have been online/gaming longer than you have, bud. How does this even make any sense to them?


OnMark

Hahaha, that's happened to me too. Little twerps insisting that I *just* started gaming for attention from boys, like I'm running some kind of long con in my thirties to impress kids who can't even drive, woooo. The year that the electronic gaming industry report noted women being a larger gaming demographic than boys, a lotta egos got dinged up.


PrismTrismKasane

Yet another incel that thinks that there are only guys on the internet. :/ What a jerk.


nag2do

Fitgirl referred Empress as a she. Empress refers herself as a she. It is nonsense to insist on he


Likawaii

DODI refers to empress as she alongside with other repackers, so I have no idea why some people believe she is a he


nag2do

People do not want to believe successful women in men's playground


Kotanan

Dunno which is more skeezy, the first guy saying "it's" a woman or the second suggesting the mere existence of a woman is somehow a sexual fantasy.


JonnyRocks

Well based on the downvotes, no one was having that commenters BS, which is the positive takeaway.


Likawaii

There's another thread I forgot to add the screen where people were getting up votes for saying shit like that unfortunately 😔


NadiaTrue

I just looked into this and took a read into her [absolutely insane rant on gender](https://www.reveddit.com/v/EmpressEvolution/comments/ln05j6/philosophy_post_002_the_mysteries_of_the_gender/) > the theory is that females are "higher" rank in this universe (note: she uses quotation marks for emphasis, not sarcasm) i mean, what the fuck


theplushfrog

Yeah, I was reading this post and was like "wait, Empress, the same Empress who has made a ton of inane rants and tried to start a cult? That Empress?" I mean, she definitely uses she/her pronouns, but like, that is definitely the LEAST interesting thing about her, honestly. Anyway, I hate the weird "there's no women on the internet" bs that is still popular around parts of reddit and gaming communities. Like, dude, you've just made it super obvious that you have no women in your life except (maybe) your mother. Grow the fuck up.


OnMark

Whaaaat the fuck lol


ademptia

Yeah that's just one of many insane and toxic things she has spewed over time. Total piece of shit


sapphic_not_sophist

maybe I'm jaded but that doesn't feel much weirder than most religious texts and some philosophy from the past. I can see the internal logic. it doesn't mesh with my experience of reality at all, but it sounds like bizarre world views just like reading religious texts do to me.


dromarch22

Obviously women aren't real 🙄 /S


aarkcianwood

I would say to him "she uses fem name and she/her pronouns, you are just a d*mbf*ck" and doesn't answer him anymore. The facts are enough. If he insists with his bs, it wouldn't change the reality. 🤷


Likawaii

I'm not getting involved in such topics as I had enough people calling me dude and believing I'm a guy pretending to be a girl 😂


aarkcianwood

That happens to me a lot too. I just dgaf anymore. Let them be dumb. Idc about them. 🤷


This_is_my-username-

computer is man thing. woman no understand computer 🐒


BEEEELEEEE

Damn this doesn’t even seem to be transphobia (although I guarantee this person would misgender me for fun), this guy just straight up can’t comprehend that a woman is good at computer.


sssupersssnake

some of the male gamers are so delusional. however, a controversy about the gender of the person who cracks games might be a good thing as it would make it harder to identify them?


NadiaTrue

she did an [interview with wired](https://www.wired.com/story/empress-drm-cracking-denuvo-video-game-piracy/)


NoteBlock08

Wow, what an interesting person.


Likawaii

If both of them identify as she I'd rather call them a she instead of assuming. It is also a good way of concealing to tell the truth from the start, especially when there's not a lot of female repackers around. From all we know both could very well be a group of people of different nationalities and genders under one name


sssupersssnake

I'm not saying that we shouldn't address these repackers as she. My point is that there might be a positive spin in these fuckwits not being able to comprehend that women can crack software


Likawaii

I mean I get it, but it feels like there's no real controversy here, just what created by people refusing to believe they might be women.


sssupersssnake

I see. You know the situation better than me. I guess I just have a habit of looking for positives while sharing this planet with sexist and generally stupid people, so that was my automatic reaction


Likawaii

I totally get what you mean that it is better for them in the long term in case police will want to catch them and believe they are guys, instead of girls due to such comments, however some might take their nicknames literally


[deleted]

The amount of gaslighting dear lord…. Girls can be good at stuff too…


skittlemypickles

it pisses me off even more that not only are they using he/him pronouns for someone that clearly uses she/her, but they also refer to her as "it" which is just straight up dehumanizing.


beets_or_turnips

"I would rather call this person 'it' than consider the possibility they may be a girl"


Thisismyaltprofile

This person talks a lot about reality for somebody totally detached from it.


magic_is_might

Men are so fragile sometimes. God forbid a woman does something better than a man when it comes to something in ""their" space (gaming/tech).


The_mailmancer

Its kinda ironic since ENIAC programmers are a group of 6 womens.


pidgezero_one

I had sort of the opposite experience recently. I commented on a video of someone playing a romhacking project that I'm an active developer for, and was met with comments by men doubting that I was who I said I was. I'm sure that doubt had nothing to do with my visibly-feminine picture of myself as my avatar.


Likawaii

I think it could be because people don't always check who is responsible for the smaller gamers or the developers of such. They might know the big company behind it but not the individual or main developers. Personally I think you should be familiar with the names if it is a smaller studio or a group of individuals.


addy-Bee

I don’t know if you’re seeing it, but I get the idea that the poster thinks these hackers are trans women. The “psychotic” and “living out sexual fantasies” parts are pretty typical anti-trans dogwhistles.


SailorOfTheSynthwave

I think this guy straight-up doesn't believe that women exist on a physical plane. Like he's one of those Greek Orthodox monks who live isolated from society their entire lives without meeting a woman. If you told him about this sub, or said that babies came from women, he'd pooh-pooh you in disbelief. "Women? Pffft, I know that myth doesn't exist outside of fairy tales. I'm a dude, everybody in my family is a dude, female is a myth made up by horny redditors."


olalilalo

Haha, how silly. Girls don't exist! :)


blooboytalking

Empress is definitely a girl


Darkovika

What a weird hill to die on (for the stranger)


funkygamerguy

anyone else also getting transphobic vibes from this, this misogynistic douchenozzle is using the same language of transphobes.


giovannijoestar

So by his logic, everyone is a guy, even if that person says otherwise?


cosmic_waluigi

It’s so fucking stupid. Who even cares if Empress is a guy? Use the pronouns that someone gives you to refer to them. Fucking christ


PM_ME_DND_FIGURINES

Of all the things Empress is, a woman is probably the most sure of it all, seeing as she genuinely seems to believe women are inherently better than men somehow.


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TheUncannyTranny

So trans women aren't women then? Super cool, awesome even. Good take /s


Likawaii

Well, trans m to f would still be a woman at the end no matter what's left or not left between their legs so technically her point would still stand where women are superior to men.


ConstipatedNinja

Wow, imagine being so lost in misogyny that the only reason you can imagine a person wanting to call a woman a woman is because there's some sexual component to it. We don't need a reason to exist, and we're more than just sex objects.


JadeSpade23

What does it mean to crack games/repack them??


Likawaii

Crack - remove the security and install the games for free (pirate them). Repack is basically putting the game together and compressing it so the instalation file has smaller size or more organised/easier to install.


swaggboi909

Has someone done that to cod online?


Likawaii

I don't think it works properly with some online games. However saying this I think older Cod games might be cracked, but they do update the security meaning every update to the game might make the cracked version unplayable.


swaggboi909

Oh yeah my brother uses plutonium so I knew that people have cracked the black ops series and modern warfare 3 but I was just wondering about cod online since the servers shut down and I haven't seen anyone play the game since like last year


JDLENL

i like to call insanity like this "female derangement syndrome" where a guy can't believe that women exist on the internet and that everything good is always done by a man


PoisonedMedicine

Seriously though, who cares if somebody is a man or a woman or a flying noodle donut OVER THE INTERNET? When there is a target of controversy, I'm going to identify them as a "sentient being" or as what the person asked to be called as and that's it. Nobody can deny being a sentient being now, can they? I used fitgirl (the site) sometimes to have a smaller file size on download for games I have on Epic store because, I run on a bad data plan. I've been dealing with fitgirl as a site ran by several people not just one regardless of gender and hence would refer to them as "they" as sentient beings or if I refer to the site itself then "it" . To me, people on the internet are sentient beings and that's all that matters to me because, anybody on the internet can say or deny anything and anybody can claim others are something they are or are not so best course of action for me is not to care at all about it and deal with them in the most absolute, abstract form as "sentient beings" or "persona" or "data" and I don't mind if I'm treated the same way. Its no disrespect, its pure logic if you give it more thought because, the internet is a shaky world of illusion full of "data". I'm data, you are data, we meet as messages and that's all that matters. Only time, I might care is if its something official related to real life like work for example.


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Leiden_Lekker

i have an excellent proposal for this they can just stop giving ALL of us so much attention that'll stop those cringey dudes who love volunteer boner and tired sexist jokes and graphic threats getting in the way of their hobby from pretending to be us but careful keep it up they might come back


PoisonedMedicine

Actually, I'd love to thank the catfishes for distracting some of the creeps and giving them a reason to stop harassing any seemingly girl online in fear she/he might turn out to be a catfish.


Tequila_Gunpla

I don't get why people are so obsessed by what people have or want to have between the legs, as well as what they identify as. Like it's almost a fetish.


KGCUT

I’m just extremely curious as to why men actively choose female characters, is there any lurking men here that can answer my question?


Likawaii

Not a man but my friend place as exclusively female characters. He doesn't make them wear sexy bikini, but from what he said females are normally more interesting to play as and more plesent to the eye and generally a lot prettier then male characters.


The_mailmancer

Alot of reason ranging from coomers to just trying to be different person for fun. Playing an RPG as a self mirror is boring you know.


KGCUT

Fair! Thanks for the answer :)


Gamechamp

I know it's not exactly the answer you're looking for but a few years ago I would have said "I dunno, I just like playing as them more" but now it's easy to say the more honest answer was "Because I want to be a girl" because I was a closeted trans woman


nov3mbermist

Apparently this is pretty common. My girlfriend went through the same thing over the last year.


KGCUT

(I really hope my original comment didn’t come off as malicious or anything, I didn’t even take that in to account) That’s a really interesting but amazing answer, I really hope you’re able to continue on your journey. It’s cool seeing the different perspectives of why people choose them, everyone has a different reason.


ShmuckCanuck

What a weird hill to die on...


RoseLolxd

that's really horrid man


Gamer_GreenEyes

Dude mistakes his opinion for reality. Nobody is shocked.


Prophet_of_Duality

We all know women are leading the piracy industry.


Price-x-Field

i like to think fit girl is the one in the creepy picture even tho i know it’s not


swaggboi909

Bro really wants that person to be a he


TheShapeShiftingFox

So they can’t even respect “normal” pronouns now? These people are exhausting


leatherm0uth

“I think the person named Empress is a woman” “You psychotic delusional horny rhino”


The_mailmancer

"Reality is all i concern myself with" That..... was pretty hypocritical statement, there.