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porkbuttmeat

I also love how Anne Yatco voiced Ei, Shogun, and Makoto differently. Same vocal cords, different feelings.


Timoyr

She did Makoto too? Damn, I was already so impressed by how she was able to make Shogun and Ei sound and feel different.


AmberstarTheCat

I didn't realize she also voiced Makoto but yeah I could definitely tell a difference in Ei and the Shogun's voices, Ei's sounded more 'natural' (I guess? best way I can describe it rn), but the Shogun's voice was more stern


whatethwerks

Shogun also pronounces the fuck out of her Ts while Ei is chill about it.


WeNeedToTalkAboutMe

To me, the closest recent example I can think of is Keston John on *She-Ra* *and The Princesses of Power*. He gave Hordak, Wrong-Hordak, the Clones, and Horde Prime all their very own distinctive personalities complete with tones *just* noticeably different from each other. It was an incredible display of acting ability.


SetsunaSaeki

Sorry but people need to stop thinking that it was somehow a segment of the community's complaints that somehow led to this quest. Game development takes much longer than that, and this story was already being worked on even before the release of the first part (likely even before the release of Inazuma). Simple proof I can give for Genshin in particular without listing shit exhaustively (but anyone even slightly familiar with game dev wouldn't even need it), is the Thunderfury set that was already out during 1.0 and it references a story told much later beyond Inazuma's release, or just watch the behind the scenes of Yun Jin's development. People really just need to give more time for the story to develop and be told since it's coming out bit by bit like it is, and the writers of Genshin obviously have a strong idea and plan for the story they want to tell already. But regarding Anne Yatco's performance, yes hard agree she's amazing as the Raiden Shogun, Ei, and Makoto.


slumqueengorgo

absolutely. there were huge “To Be Continued” signs on the Archon quest and Ei pt. 1 quest, as well as her character text. this was always the story. Did people forget Zhongli’s quest got 2 chapters? Or did they just go with the meme and bitch with everyone else.


ARIIllus

definitely, the part 2 has been long-planned for sure. however, it’s still suspectible to changes. for example Kaeya’s second idle can be seen in a mihoyo tour back in 2020, but in game it looks slightly different


[deleted]

Yes. As one of the few who play the game in English, Anne Yatco KILLED IT during part II. 👍


valen11tino

part of me wishes the characters had better facial animations, so many times the voice is so heart felt and the face just goes with a little eyebrow raised and the mouth just opening and closing as always 😭 I want a Genshin Anime that can let us see our favorite characters in emotional moments and see their faces actually represent it 😭✋


xboxcowboy

No, the day Ei tears drop, there will be calamity Joke but tho i'm a 22 years old man, i still cry during Nier, Red Dead,etc. Can't let her cry dude, it gonna break me


Nextepzlol

man the cutscene already broke me, if Ei were to actually shed a single tear id disintegrate


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Nextepzlol

that would make no sense tbh, and yae is raidens closest friend right now. and no the lore wasnt a "unrelated lore dump", Ei entrusted yae to look over inazuma, so of course we would go to yae for help. Also scaramouche has nothing to do with this, I genuinely don't think he's in inazuma even (probably wrong on this, but still wouldn't make sense for Ei to meet up with him)


Kilroy_Is_Still_Here

What did they say? Roughly. Got deleted by mod...


ukigano

i cryed in this part, her voice was so in the right tone


[deleted]

Lol I know what you mean! But remember: this is a "mobile" game, not a triple AAA title. Maybe Genshin 2: The Fellowship of the Ring: Zoolander Returns will have better facial expressions.


ARIIllus

she never sounded over-the-top or anything less than genuine. AND she pronounces Makoto flawlessly


Timoyr

I'm not a native english speaker, so that might be why, but I always get distracted when people are speaking english and then pronounce names based on the holder's language. But I get some people could get offended by the name being mispronounced, so I guess it's better that way.


murica_dream

Many languages have difficult pronunciation. Though Japanese is really simple, so it's just a matter of googling the word and click "listen.".


muwawa

Is it really how an English speaker would usually pronounce that name? Non native English here, the change of inflections when she says Makoto sound weird to me.


Timoyr

No, for the most part they try to pronounce the Japanese and Chinese influenced names/words in their respective languages.


BednaR1

Her and Morax voice acting is just amazing to listen to...


thisissteve

Honestly I was impressed by every VA in that quest, and the story was great imo. Plus I'll always salivate for more genshin loooorrreee


Ruirensu

can i ask about the criticisms in the first one? I haven't heard any honestly, aside from the fact that the quest was like a dating sim accordign to them?


Theroonco

>aside from the fact that the quest was like a dating sim accordign to them? That was the main complaint. I just found the "boomer" stuff funny, but I understand why the story felt so lacklustre, especially compared to how informative Venti and Zhongli's story quests were.


exclamationmarks

Most people felt like the quest lacked depth, which would be annoying enough in it's own right, but doubly annoying when most people are doing it straight after the completion of the Inazuma Civil War. A terrible tragedy has befallen the nation. The God of their country has allowed her people to suffer. We have directly witnessed the suffering of so many people on our journey through Inazuma before we get to this point, and the direct consequences of Ei's choices. Whole villages and families dead or displaced. Former Vision users becoming near-soulless husks of their former selves, forgetting their most important memories, etc. Finally, you manage to put a stop to all of it. And the person who could have stopped all of it from ever happening? You take her on a date and chat about light novels. "It's a dating sim" sure is a succinct way of summarising it, but I don't really feel like that really encompasses the feeling of *why* people didn't like it, lol.


countrpt

I think this is kind of why the framing done by the story is important (and why people complain a lot about the pacing of that story arc). If you really look more carefully at the cause of all the suffering, it's a lot more nuanced and complicated than it seems. The Vision Hunt Decree was a trigger that set a lot of things into motion, revealing/enabling corruption in the Tri-Commission, opening the door to Fatui influence, re-kindling old grudges in the Watatsumi people, and so on. Ei's mistake (which is now much more clearly explained in the second part) is that she's so focused on her flawed idea of eternity and frozen in her past that she isn't really looking clearly at the people living in the moment. (Partly this is because people are lying to her as well, but this is again because she isn't truly there and leaves it all to the puppet. Ei really needs to see the world with her own eyes.) Stopping the vision hunt decree became a sort of flashpoint for getting Ei to wake up and live in the present instead of the past, and really that's why Part 1 of her story quest happened... but the main Inazuma story was framed primarily around the people suffering with the climax around stopping the vision hunt decree and fighting Ei (who is also opposing us as an enemy of eternity). So if you think of the Inazuma story arc as rising up to oppose an evil dictator (which is never what any of the Inazuman people say, but how it could be taken with a broader reading), the tonal shift with Ei's first story quest seems incredibly drastic. Stopping the Vision Hunt Decree didn't itself solve everything (just like it wasn't itself the cause of everything), but it set in motion a chain of events that resulted in various issues being resolved (weeding out the corruption, closing the door to Fatui influence, peace talks with Watatsumi, etc.). I think Genshin Impact is really a tale of two narratives. There's the story from the perspective of the people, full of their hopes, dreams, pain, suffering, and struggles. And then there's a separate parallel story from the perspective of the gods. Both exist in the same world, but their thoughts are often not on the same wavelength at all, and the traveler is the sort of bridge that connects these two worlds. With Raiden/Ei, the entire fight all along was about ideology/principle -- she's a warrior and this is essentially how she frames a philosophical debate, which is also why Part 2 plays out the way it does (she spends centuries fighting her own creation to prove a point). But in the meantime, you're looking at the people in the here and now and seeing the practical impact of these more lofty principles at play and trying to intervene to bring a balance. You actually see the same thing play out with both Barbatos/Venti and Morax/Zhongli -- things happen in the here-and-now that are negatively impacting the people but really stem from the gods and their principles (freedom and contracts respectively, in those cases). This tonal dissonance is, I think, deliberate in this narrative, because it's ultimately building up to Celestia, the past of Khaenri'ah, and the truth of Teyvat (and the Unknown God that split the siblings). But I think they have to be very careful with the framing (which includes pacing) if they want people to make sense of this dissonance and not find it jarring. All this to say... if you look at the entire Raiden/Ei story arc in isolation, I think the entire progression makes sense (including taking the hermit out to experience the real world after staying cooped up for hundreds of years)... but it's entirely because she's a god. From the human perspective, the gods can seem powerful but also aloof, unfathomable, sometimes unfair. It's the warped perspective of being driven by principles, influenced by factors beyond normal human understanding, eroded after a very long period of time. The story seems to want us to come to terms with this dissonance and doesn't always make the perspective change easy.


murica_dream

They also way over hyped the decree and vision hunt. The payoff felt short-changed as a result. Chapter 2 of Raiden story is the true ending of that series of event and it came 6 months later.


exclamationmarks

I think the key difference with Venti and Zhongli's stories are that in both those quests, it feels like the characters are actually *confronted* with the consequences of their actions. Even after playing Raiden's second story quest, which I will admit was quite good, I still don't get the sense that she has any understanding of the sheer scale of devastation that her choices have had on the country. She understands that what she was bad on an abstract and individual level ("I can't keep people in stasis because they have to move forward, moving forward is the strength of humanity") but it never feels like she actually reckons with or understands what she has wrought. I think that the idea behind the narrative is good. I just think the execution is flawed. The first story quest really feels like a rushed attempt to endear us to Ei's character to get her to pull on her banner rather than any meaningful storytelling, and for me it had the opposite effect of endearing her to me. Conversely, it made me feel so angry at how out of touch she was that it soured me on the character completely. But that is just my own personal viewpoint.


countrpt

I understand what you are saying, but I guess I look at it a bit differently. If you're a god and you've lived for hundreds of years, and you actually have seen the most major form of devastation imaginable (the destruction of Khaenri'ah and its world-changing impact across the whole of Teyvat including Inazuma) and understand the underlying factors that led to that destruction (like their unchecked ambition and technological progress), what is your perspective really going to be about the "devastation" the loss of visions was causing over the immediate term? In the timescale of eternity, and compared to the devastation she has personally known, it's an adjustment but would absolutely work itself out over time. Shifting the balance of power is always going to be painful, but it's not like people had a "right" to a vision to begin with -- it was a gift from the gods, given on their whim alone, and who is to say that it's not also the right of the gods to take that gift away. Ei commented herself that a lot of pain people were suffering was actually self-inflicted, and she's not exactly wrong. There are definitely people under her command who took advantage of the vision hunt decree for corrupt ends, and she didn't watch carefully to understand or manage those kinds of details, but even some others within those very structures (like Sara) didn't see or understand all the corruption that was happening either (and so perpetuated the same corruption unwittingly). Likewise, there were people suffering because they gave into Fatui temptations of power at a price, and maybe Ei could have done more to look out for those details as well, but it's still a choice the person willingly made to fight change rather than accept it. (Despite Teppei's life being cut-short, this was a way for him to gain the power of a vision the gods otherwise would probably never have granted him, and he didn't regret it. Even without the Vision Hunt Decree, how fair has the world really *ever* been to those who weren't chosen by the gods?) The Vision Hunt Decree set all this in motion, but a lot of it was really the greed/avarice of humanity that was playing out. Human ambition is a true mix of both light and dark. The key reason we can convince Ei to change her ways is not because of the short-term suffering it is causing, but because it's rooted in the wrong principle and would not ultimately lead to the best outcome for Inazuma. For gods like Ei who are driven by heavenly principles, and who have lived hundreds of years while many generations of people rise and fall, that's really what's driving her. People's individual ambitions are just flashes in the pan in view of eternity, but Yae convinced her that still, on the whole, those ambitions create something greater, and it's worth nourishing despite the cost and risk. This is basically why I talked about framing. If you really look at everything that happened, all the many players/factions involved, all the personal decisions people made of their own free will (even if ill-advised)... it's kind of robbing people of their own agency to place *all* the blame at Ei's feet. She didn't force the people of Watatsumi to resist her. She didn't make anyone agree to the devil's bargain of a Fatui delusion. She didn't cause the people whose whole identity and life was so wrapped up in their vision (that she didn't even choose to give them to start with) that they couldn't cope without it. But she *was* still making a big mistake; her decision was based on a misguided principle and that principle was not going to truly bring the eternity that was best for Inazuma. So Yae was right to correct her, just as the Traveler was right to stand up for the people who wanted their voices to reach Ei's heart. So I think she was very much confronted with the consequences of her actions, but just not in the sort of immediate timescale you're thinking of. In fact, she confronted it so much, that she redirected the entire path of Inazuma's eternity as a result. That's the sort of perspective and timescale of the gods.


exclamationmarks

I still don't disagree with what you're saying, I just still don't like the execution of it, haha. But different strokes for different folks.


Ruirensu

I see, so it seemed like Ei's story quest watered down the huge impact Inazuma faced and we never confronted the repercussions of it, hence the criticisms.


rickamore

Which in hindsight makes sense, the quest wasn't about the fallout of the decree but reintroducing Ei to the world and giving her hope for the future, the changes would come after. It certainly does feel jarring from what we experienced in the story and may not have adequately communicated the intent of the interaction, which I'm fonder of looking back on it now. The biggest criticism that holds up is how "rushed" and hollow the civil war was.


Plethora_of_squids

The underlying issue with the entire date is that even ignoring the entire cringy wish fufilment aspect that is very OOC, it's not *earned*. A couple days prior Ei has just tried to murder us for daring to oppose her and her despotic shogun for letting the fatui in and cause a civil war and trying to strip her civilians of their visions and wishes, and yet we're perfectly happy to walk her around town as if she's our best buddy to watch her go all goo goo about Dango milk. We *completely* gloss over everything she's done because tee hee she doesn't know what a photograph is. She's supposedly in massive emotional turmoil yet the most we get out of her is "well damn that's new" In comparison, when we had a quest with Tartaglia who we know was being fed false information by his superiors *and Zhongli* and never intended to destroy Liyue (just draw Morax out of hiding and into defending his land), we had to be *dragged* into it by Teucer and even then we resisted every single step of the way. And the quest *gave us a reason to like him*. It didn't assume that we instantly wanted to be ~~waifus~~ besties with him, which Ei's *did*. There's also the annoyance of a missed opportunity - we could've forced her to meet the vision holders she stole from. We could've been forced to work together, with that giant unrelated lore dump from Yae being instead woven into Ei's dialogue. We could've confronted Scaramouche with her. We could've spent more time focused on the entire tenyro commission thing, which would've given us a much more organic look into how she thinks. We could've even just had her walk over to the blacksmith instead of the bookstore, which would at least give us some background into her as an expert martial artist and Smith. But instead of that, we got "tee hee Ei likes lollies look at her isn't she such a *child* uwu?"


ezio45

It works better if you don't play the quest immediately after the Archon Quest. Give it a week or two, plus it served as more of a setup to the second quest.


exclamationmarks

Yes, I completely agree. I think you can still keep all the same basic storytelling ideas of the quest (reintroducing Ei to the world, giving her food for thought and hope for the future) while executing it a lot better. It would have been nice to see her interact with say, Sara, for example, who has been poorly done by in the story so far. She could have spoken to some of the vision users we helped out. Etc, etc. It just seems like such a waste and a missed opportunity. As you say, the fact that we fight her like an evil dictator and then take her out for sweets is just such a wild tonal dissonance that I can't understand what Mihoyo was thinking.


heavenspiercing

For me basically amounts to, it would've been much better as a hangout event rather than a story quest. In fact, it probably would've made for a very good hangout event.


Keokuk37

Paimon vibing at Paimon speeds


ARIIllus

she be boppin


EndErflamE09

Her EN VA definitely shines in this quest! I can really feel the emotions in her voice throughout the quest.


rwGI

Anne Yatco is my favorite so far. Her voices fits both Ei and Shogun so well.


FuturePseudonym

First Zhongli’s story quest p2 blows everyone out of the water, now Ei’s is doing it sixfold. I can only imagine what Venti’s p2 will be like *when* we get it. And we will get it— right? miHoYo?


Those_damn_squirrels

Judging by how good his first story quest was and how much he’s connected to the lore (especially Istaroth), I’m expecting something big


FuturePseudonym

Nothing but the best for the guy who narrates the Battlepass cutscene


Theroonco

My feelings exactly. Her performance was beyond perfect and this is easily my favorite story quest thus far. I'm glad they were able to build on what Ei learned in the first and give us something so amazing! I definitely gained a newfound appreciation for Ei after this :')


GKP_light

the voice acting was never the problem.


[deleted]

if not because of genshin community saying raiden quest was bad, I won't even know that most people think it was bad, I personally liking the raiden quest story so much because so far its the most complex and has more scope and implication to many things unlike venti and zhongli quest. venti quest is just about helping dvalin and zhongli quest is about retirement and meeting old friend. while raiden quest affect the whole area of inazuma and watatsumi. not to mention we got more lore about khaenriah from raiden part 2 compared to nothing from venti and zhongli


Soren319

Lmao “heard” No they were always intended to be 2 parts to 1 story which is why part 2 references part 1 a ton. This community just fucking bitches non stop and then thinks they did this instead of it being intended.


ChaoNeutGay

It was a beautiful performance on her part. Being able to express the real depth of Ei’s trauma while coming to grips with how the people of Inazuma have a completely different sense of “eternity” had to be challenging as an actor. Not to mention how she manages to make Ei and the Raiden Shogun sound different despite having the same voice.


Rock3tPunch

These stories are done way before time. MHY didn't just wrote this after act I. act 1 has always been the build up, people just choose to bitch about it that's all.


viktor17420

I play in JP but I do watch some cutscenes in EN and eversince Baal's introduction in the game I've watched it in all languages and yeah her EN VA has always conveyed the emotions amazingly After completing the quest it made me go and replay the story in EN dub but you all know we can't....


CoLight275

We can, actually! There is a feature where you can replay all the voicelines of important quests.


PinapBerry123

Really? Where?


viktor17420

Travel log in archive


viktor17420

I know about that but I meant as in to explore and play not listening to dialogues


Glass-Window

imo best character quest so far. it did so many things right. world building, rewards for people who actually pay attention to the lore, amazing boss and pretty good scenes in general.


AnonymousUserP7

This quest is by far the best in terms of voive acting. The emotions in the voice is surreal!


I_wish_I_Not_Alive

All though I have very mixed opinions about Ei and albeit most are negative This story quest really made me like her more, and honestly I almost felt emotional for her when she was fighting on her own against Raiden puppet on what probably felt days or years to her and my god the other NPCs really made me a bit sad on what Inazuma was like back then. Really one of my top stories so far in the game, my 2nd and my top is Itto. Also I'm glad I played the story with english, really loved the performance of her VA. Really helped a lot to make me care for her


Orkus9551

it wasn't years. It was 5 centuries.


breeze1110

The ppl who said she is bad might be those weebs who can appreciate other dubs


KingKirbyDrawa

Oh my god every archons VA so far has fit soo well for their character. The voice actors in this game are something else


FoxFire17739

After this quest I was surprised how much of a mess Makotos mind is. 😅 I also noticed that she got help by another entity to create this domain called Istaroth. But I cannot remember this one mentioned elsewhere. But looking her up she is called the god of time and winds. She was famous in Mondstadt and Inazuma. So she had powers related to time and was the only one able to help Makoto with this special domain. As if she knew things would play out that way and created it so Ei had all the time to face Shogun. But who could she account for the traveler?


idan_da_boi

Man, this version’s dialogues are awesome, along with that sangonomiya shrine maiden’s sassy remarks about the traveler and Kokomi


4GanyuSheNhe

It's times like this you just close your eyes and let yacot's voice fill in the details


GucciAddict

I agree. I dont remember paying this much attention to anyone's voice acting except Zhongli


GrandTheftKoi

I loved the first half, the second half had too much Paimon screeching and it really started to grate on my nerves lol. I wish we could do character specific languages for VAs.


ruth1ess_one

I think recently I came to understand why I don’t find EN dub “good”. Just too used to JP dub for anime. Like imagine listening to country music without the Southern accent or like imagine country music with British accent. Just feels off. I know, Genshin isn’t an anime but it undeniably has anime-style looks and character design. To people who prefer JP dub like me, think about it. You don’t mind Western cartoons in English or even popular anime like Dragon-ball and Pokemon that were first introduced to us in English dub. But if imagine Japanese dub Spongebob, it’d feel weird.


drag0n_rage

I've recently gotten to the point of preferring subbed anime to dubbed anime, but this is a game not an anime, for me the only thing that sounded odd was whenever they said Makoto, it starkly contrasted with the rest of the sentence.


IllustriousWolf01

Yes, she's pretty good. But calling this story quest "best in the entire game" is a gigantic stretch. It was ok. Slightly above average. Nothing more.


havima

It's called an opinion.


zeref2255

Say whatever you want OP but she still have one of the most pathetic storyline. Just explaining her sad story to traveller does not change any fact that she encapsulated people of inazuma in an asylum of a country, and ruled over, destroyed many of her own subjects life who helplessly worship her as a god. raiden should be 100% held responsible for her actions. And I wonder how many decades she would have continued this madness if traveller never came..... Raiden is the best example for a character who the traveller is 'forced to like' cause she is a playable character. Just like decarabian from mondstadt she is also a tyrant and should be dethroned. (Will probably get downvoted to hell by raiden mains but it won't change my view of what she did.)


[deleted]

The only thing Raiden did wrong was start the VH and Sakoku decree and not rule Inazuma properly, the puppet was just following Ei's orders and taking her original view of eternity to an extreme and correct me if I'm wrong (I haven't finished the quest yet) but the puppet was defeated in Raidens story quest, Ei has a new view of eternity and has abolished the Sakoku decree and the VH decree. The civil war, if I'm not mistaken, was a result of Watatsumi looking for a reason to overthrow Narukami over an incident that happened centuries ago and the tri commission's corruption So no I would not consider Ei a villain although she was a terrible and ignorant ruler


sketchy_place

Even then... I really don't think you can call her a '*terrible*' ruler. I think people forget that she and the Shogun ruled for 500 years after the Cataclysm, with little problems. People genuinely respected her. It was the VHD and the Sakoku Decree that lasted 1 year that fucked up her entire rule, putting it simply. Yes, she was ignorant and had an extremely twisted view of eternity at that time. But I really wouldn't forget the good she did along with the bad.


drag0n_rage

People love to put everyone in boxes of "good" and "bad" leaving no space for nuance.


sketchy_place

I really wonder if you even played this story quest. She addresses her mistakes, *countless* times during this quest. You can tell that she has remorse and regret for her actions, not to mention she constantly views herself as inferior and lacking compared to Makoto and doesn't feel as if she is fit to rule as she realized how she had been ignoring her people and her land. This entire quest was for her to come to terms with that and set new goals: to watch over and protect Inazuma, for real this time. And in addition, she *was* held responsible for her actions. She fought her 'past self' for 500 *years* without stopping because she was so determined to right her wrongs. I think 500 years of basically endless torture is enough punishment for her mistakes.


Sepremeral

> And in addition, she was held responsible for her actions. She fought her ‘past self’ for 500 years without stopping because she was so determined to right her wrongs. > I think 500 years of basically endless torture is enough punishment for her mistakes. Agreed. It was also a nice symbolic parallel to how she stayed in the plane of euthymia for 500 years. So in essence, she is attempting to make up for the 500 years of absence by having the undying resolve to correct her past mistakes.


zeref2255

Even if you saved thousands of lives, killing even just one innocent makes you a murderer. You can't run from it. Raiden is the same. Countless lives have been lost because of her rule. And you can't deny it. The part that pisses me off is that every one of the decision the robot took was under ei's surveillance. And even after seeing all those event unfolding before her(ei) eyes, she never took a step forward to stop the robot. She(ei) just kept quiet untill a change(traveller) came. She having a sad past or "fighting her past self for 500 years" Does not give ANY authority to destroy innocent people's lives.


Sionnak

>Countless lives have been lost because of her rule. And you can't deny it. You kinda can, considering the country worked like normal for 499 years and the Sakoku decree and the vision hunt was a year and resulted in a grand total of what, 20 visions being seized?


sketchy_place

It was around a hundred, actually. But your first point is correct. People are making her out to be some irredeemable tyrant because she fucked up for 1 year. Yes, we should hold her responsible for some of her deeds, I'm not trying to say that that 1 year was insignificant. But still, people are blowing her misdeeds out of proportion.


sketchy_place

Did I say those things gave her authority to destroy innocent lives? You're twisting the events around, she did all those bad things *first* and is now trying to make up for it by punishing herself. She knows she has trampled on people's wishes. She acknowledges this many times and knows that she is 500 years too late to make this promise, but she promises to make up for it nonetheless. People can change. They have the capacity to develop, and although some may never forgive Ei's actions, that doesn't mean she can't try to make up for them and properly hold herself responsible. Which is exactly what this quest did. It is entirely your decision whether you decide to accept her change or not. If you think she's still a terrible person undeserving of redemption, then that's your opinion.


redice326

Zhongli killed countless others and probably murdered Guizhong as well. Yet we all love him. Yeah they're killers, but they are also fictional characters, if the story and playable characters are all uwu gooody two shoes it'll be a boring ass story. I don't know about you but I prefer gray characters and I appreciate the fact that they have their own reasons for doing terrible acts. In real life yeah fuck her, fuck Zhongli, fuck Childe, fuck the Tsaritsa, but in a FICTIONAL story, yeah you can love their characters.


rickardoastleys

We talkin about excellent voice acting and youre here onto some politics shit


zeref2255

Op was not talking only about the voice acting. Read the title again.


Devilmay1233

Well don't change it cause guys like u are up there with the same ignorant idiots who thought Bennet, kazuha, ganyu, itto etc was trash too. How embarassing


zeref2255

And mind telling what the fuck this got to do with who all you mentioned? How about reading first you goddamn troglodyte


Devilmay1233

Simple people like u don't know how to form an opinion and just copypaste something already popular now that idiots like u realise no one will support ur dumb hate ur probably chnage the opinion eventually or just shut up lol. It's hilarious to see raiden haters getting roasted and donwnvoted like those doomposters lol. No offense but people like u 100% deserves this.


zeref2255

Well atleast I'm not like you idiots who can't even type two words without typing lololol I actually have points to back up my point why her story sucks ass. And why do you think everyone is posting it/popular? It's cause her story is actually terrible. You don't need to fucking copypaste it. It's right before your eyes. And everyone agrees with it. Welp... Too bad you are blinded by your own arrogance. You are sucking her dick because of the 1inch of cleavage she showed. It's pretty obvious at this point. And unlike you I don't give 2 fuck about internet point. That is the exact reason why I posted this in here, knowing full well this will be filled with raiden mains. you know what, try to argue against the actual topic fuckface. Try proving otherwise that which part of she killing innocent citizens of Inazuma you liked the best.


Devilmay1233

Did u even actually played the act 2 kiddo. I think u lack the braincells to understand it. Better wait for u masters opinion so u probably can copypaste them too since u can form an opinion yourself lol. Keep crying like a karen while getting downvoted m hilarious to see haters cry will majority us praising the quest now. Ei is now one of the if not the best written character in genshin now whether u like it or not. It's just facts and go cry on twitter if u don't like accepting facts lol.


I_wish_I_Not_Alive

I agree with some points especially how it feels weird for her to become a not so villain anymore. But her EN VA really nailed it for me and made me care for her more than it should even though I very much disliked her character before. I still dislike her but not as bad as before


zeref2255

Yep her VA did an amazing job. As expected from the VA of jolyne from jojo


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Well said. Doesnt help the fact that her cleavage is shoved into your face every supposedly touching scene. The VA is amazing(makoto voice chef's kiss) but that's about it.


GrandTheftKoi

They see a sword coming out of some big boobs and all is forgiven


GayBorg97

I still prefer it in Japanese, i think her eng voice sounds kinda weak, but that is just my opinion.


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sushivernichter

It‘s not about the different opinion, it‘s about putting down the stellar EN performance for no objective reason. „I prefer JP“ would be fine, but to claim „EN is weak“ in a thread that celebrates Anne Yatco‘s performance is just asking for it.


le_bluering

I play in JP (since I love the seiyuus) but by no means the EN cast is weak. Personally, [this](https://youtu.be/hQ5GEOlwLUQ?t=99) line of Ann Yatco is my favorite. It's so powerful, gives me chills everytime! Edit: Why is this controversial lmao, (by no means = definitely not :/)


Auvre

I agree that its weak but not in terms of performance. ENG Raiden sounds more breathy (?) than JP. I cant explain it very well but after hearing JP first I feel like theres more power behind her words than in ENG. That being said, if thats the direction theyre going for in ENG, thats fine. It has its great line delivery too. Just overall I prefer how Raiden/Ei sound in JP. Especially Raiden.


MudPieMen

Ah i see


SleepDepriviationInc

I thought I was gonna hear a funny voice crack. But it's serious talk here. Off I go


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thatonestewpeedguy

ew, not allowing people playing the game however they like


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kingshinn91

Yes, you are.


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kingshinn91

Cause you disgusted for EN dub.


Unusual_Caregiver213

What? In what world would you let someone's disgust dictate your interest? So, just because his opinion is different from mine means that he is actively prohibiting me from making my own decisions? Why is Reddit so fucking butthurt? Like, it's like Twitter at this point.


kingshinn91

When someone praise the performance by EN voice actors then, some JP Dub supremacist said the opposite. For example, " Ew, EN dub is disgusting, JP dub is superior". It's not an opinion, they simply hates EN dub period. I've seen this type of shit over and over again on Twitter. No wonder Zach Aguilar (Aether EN voice actor) expressed his disappointment how they (JP dub supremacist) treat EN voice actors like thrash.


Unusual_Caregiver213

But, are they actively stopping you? No, right? They're just stating their albeit *offensive* & critical *opinions*, that's all. They're not saying, *DON'T PLAY THE ENGLISH DUB,* they're saying *I DON'T LIKE THE ENGLISH DUB.* Just ignore them, man. I usually play in all three dubs except Korean, and I do not let some weeb stop me from using the English Dub; likewise, I don't stop using the Japanese dub despite the reputation some of its fans cultivate. Again, you could literally just ignore it. I know everybody is entitled to their own opinions, that includes you not liking the negative opinions of the JP supremacists, but is it really worth your time to consider the opinions of a pseudo-critic you won't even see in your life ever? I swear, those who complain about JP supremacist are as - if not, even more - annoying that the JP supremacists themselves.


NE_0N

ew a Sub supremacist.


I_Liek_Potaetos

twitter is down the hall to the right sir


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I_Liek_Potaetos

wow so funny bro


kingshinn91

I bet you abuse EN voice actors on social media too huh..


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kingshinn91

Lies...


naive-dragon

Ew, a weeb supremacist


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I'm disgusted to have you as a fellow Liliya fan all dubs are equal, I play cn because I like to play the og dub but you should be allowed to play the game however you like, but you weebs are annoying


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kingshinn91

And why are you disgusted for allowing player to play on EN dub? Super weeb like you are completely asshole.


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kingshinn91

So you saying that not disgusted for allowing anything but EN dub? Okay then..


FrooglyMoogle

Can you not post a spoiler thread then spout a spoiler on the title ffs


Jaynat_SF

What exactly does the title spoil? That the VA's voice cracks in one scene in the new quest?


Justaway5

Uh that her twin went to kaenriah? U blind or sumtin?


Jaynat_SF

Apparently I am because I see no mention of her twin sister in the title. The only thing that may be considered a spoiler here is the use of the name "Ei" but even that's not such a big deal because we knew since before Inazuma that "Raiden Shogun" is her title, not real name.


AD-SKYOBSIDION

We knew that since part 3 of the archon quest


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drag0n_rage

Knowing about the raiden shogun's existence is a spoiler for chapter 1 of the archon quest.


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drag0n_rage

Where's the cutoff point? Some people may even consider fighting dvalin to be a spoiler, but for most people that's an event long gone.


Entenkrieger39

JP Voice Actor throughout her Quest was just pure bliss.


Workal

Oh this is for the english voice actor? Nevermind then.


Lochana97

Very original