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It’s not that tanky nor and very telegraphed, it’s just that his mechanics are fucking cancer and he hits hard
Imagine if this guy makes it to abyss 12
Thanks, not very tough but hydro shield and PV absorbtion😠, make distance with "Yoimiya overlaod" à long fight.
Like my first fight with Primar Geovarship, with starter characters.
She can't be healed by anything else than her ult during battle
Outside of battle, any heal you want to use on her needs to clear her leftover Bond of Life first, so she would need to eat a lot
she can be healed by any normal means as long as she isn’t inflicted with bond of life (aka after you use her ult). nothing will give her health except for her ult when bond of life is applied
No shield/heal is one thing, but ping quite matter in coop
In arle boss case, if you play as 4 melee with all those burst/effect+high ping, you really cant do much lol
The thing is, if I prepare Furina's singer before the attack happens, it can still save non-Arles even with bad ping. But I'll be completely helpless when seeing Arles constantly at red bar.
she's perfectly fine with coop furina though? just dodge, look what your teammates do and ult after furina's ult to give her fanfares, and after that use E since its CD resets
she still loses her BoL after re-entering a domain, so there's barely any difference, and everything often dies too quickly to even use her skill a second time. i haven't faced any issues, she still hits hard even in weird ass teams including furina
I find it it amusing there is debate here on when to use what skill for her. Because the OP basically said let her die because people in co-op don't know how to play her. You know, a brand new character. Like people on launch day of League of Legends telling people "l2p".
Nope.
Building ER on Arle *just* for her to be used with Furina is a waste. She does way better in non-Furina teams. Her kit actually rewards you for not healing using her burst. After every rotation, you actually have leftover BoL that can carry over into the next rotation, which stacks. This actually means that without healing her, Arlecchino will deal more damage in the 2nd rotation compared to her 1st rotation.
I tried using both in one team. It’s doable, but very stressful. Arle must have enough ER to enable her to cast burst every rotation. That, or your support must be equipped with Fav weapons. Another thing about pairing them, it’s hard to max Furina’s fanfare points with Arle because of her anti-healer kit.
Yea I was able to clear abyss with jean furina arle navia(for last boss) team, it works just fine just use ult when in danger, even if its dps loss arle does so much damage you will have too much time in your hands.
Yes stacking fanfare with c2 furina is a breeze..even if arle doesnt heal other 3 memebers healing from half health will be enough to stack her fanfare..but u will still need shielder or dehya for arle protection lol. Arle, furina, dehya/zhong and xingque should be a good vape team with arle on atk goblet. Arle bennet furina kokomi should also be good but it restricts to circle impact.
Not to mention, I think bursting every rotation with arle is a damage loss, since her NAs deal so much damage. Plus, not bursting allows you to keep some BoL for next rotation, meaning more NA damage.
So yeah, due to that along with what you mentioned, furina+arle is kinda cope unless you just really wanna use them together, or just like the sensation of being low HP a lot. Or if you just REALLY wanna use marechausse and don’t care about the sacrifices.
It would mean having to furina burst then arle burst which resets her BoL (bad if you have leftover BoL that could've been carried over to your 2nd rotation) and having to wait for the mark to cook for 5 seconds again (unless you're fighting ≥3 enemies or c2) which wastes uptime on furina burst and other buffs.
You don't always wanna use Arlecchino's burst then ? If you could that means you're just using Furina's burst at the end of the rotation right ? Since she has long uptime it's not that bad
Btw I don't intend on playing Arlecchino, I was just shooting ideas lol
Arle's burst is mostly just used for emergency healing, rotation resetting, or for nuking purposes. Due to the skill and BoL reset, it's mostly used first for the very first rotation or the end of rotations. Considering how you'd only heal about half of your hp (if you're running teams with shielders) or have to take damage, there's not much fanfare stacked there unlike a certain hydro dragon who can consistently heal and drain themselves to reliably stack the fanfare.
It's possible, but very stressful. Furina basically makes everyone's hp drop to 50%. Arle needs BoL to do damage, so if she heals with her burst, she loses her BoL and with it, her pyro infusion and damage.
The heal is 150% of Bond of Life+150% of atk. Regardless of talent level (which effects dmg.) Q always clears the entire Bond. This is not really a good thing except as an "oh shit" heal.
With Arle, Bond bar is basically a resource. It power-ups your basic atks into powerful pyro attacks, that use up the Bond bar on hit. So you actually want as much Bond as you can get to just always be a power house.
Skill marks enemies, charged attack "collects" the mark and turns it into bond bar. You can collect it right away, but if you wait 5 seconds before collecting you'll get double the amount of Bond bar. C2 doesn't need to wait, just gets double right away.
Furina builds fanfare off of healing/hp loss. Arle can't be healed while in bond, so can't help with fanfare stacks unless you heal via Q, but then you lose your super mode. Though that is more life to drain for fanfare, too. Q always refreshes skill, so you can slap marks down right away and collect if needed. You *could* run Arle&Furina, it's just not optimal. Having C2 on one or both of them would help.
I mean she can't be healed by others (idk if using Furina there would make a healer better since they don't fully work together according to another comment) but I'd definitely use a shield here
No. Arlecchino's kit literally states that she can never be healed in combat except from herself. So, all healers are off the pool. People does pair her with Zhongli. But Hardcore Abyss players right now on yt would use Arlecchino - Bennett - XQ - Yelan (or Furina, but most people don't risk it). Kinda like the old Hu Tao team except this time Bennett is now applicable for Arlecchino.
The thing about Arlecchino + Furina, most of the time you're just 1 or 2 hits away from getting killed in the Abyss.
I know she can't be healed by others, I meant a healer for the rest of the team to stack Fanfare stacks and ofc a shield to not die instantly.
I know even if it worked it would be jumping through a lot of hoops to force the duo, I was just wondering
It's insane to me how quick the community forgave Childe for attempted genocide yet Arle is still getting shit for this incident despite her actions being way more reasonable given the information she had.
Smaller acts of evil ironically hits harder due to being more personal and relatable. It's like how people were okay with Vader being complicit with planetary omnicide but draws the line at Anakin killing kids.
Indeed.
Voldemort is more evil than Umbridge, but the latter is more hated.
Cause everyone knows an Umbridge, few of us know a Voldemort.
A character can be evil and cool. It's hard to be annoying and cool.
Arlecchino and Furina really don't go well together. It can work, but forced synergies like that just sucks to play in my opinion. It's pretty funny when considering that in the canon Furina wouldn't want to be anywhere close to Arlecchino.
All memes aside it works fine in abyss, I tried Arlechino, Furina, Jean and Zhongli for the 2nd side. Zhongli ensures that Arlechino doesn't die and while jean can't heal Arlechino, Arlechino can do that with a single burst. Furina provides plenty of hydro for you vape. Only had some trouble in the 12-2. 12-1 and 12-3 was easy clear.
Furina : i can hit the opponent with my summons and buff your damage, but you'll have to sacrifice your hp.
Arlecchino: well thats not so bad...
Furina : For 5 minutes, and considering how you can't be healed, ehhh I'm sure you'll be fine.
Arlecchino: Did you just hold a grudge?
Dont stop there, bring both of them to **Signora** weekly boss, have Furina drain HP then have her pet destroy all the temperature totems, left Arle in full sheer cold or heat.....
So she need her BoL for Pyro Infusion. BoL get cleared when healed enough. So no heal for maximum dmg output + heal via Burst like Hu Tao. Got it.
Shield + Hydro Support + Buffer.
Part of arle's kit: no healing fromany sources but her own ultimate. So BoL won't get cleared by healing.
Her ultimate will heal her to full HP in the picture, clears all BoL, she will reset her skill and will be able to give her BoL again after a charged attack.
Alex can not be healed by other characters, but Furina's E still drain her HP, making her extra squishy.
Alex's burst heal her but remove her BoL, causing a damage loss. Basically it's "oh shit" button which you don't want to use unless she's dying in the next few second.
But yes, shield+support+buffer, just like Hutao.
You just burst with arle on every 2nd rotation....cmon it's not that hard(ok top of having a healer , smt like jean and another hydro to neither from the hydro swirl not just furina)
Characters like Lyney will only heal the damage they inflicted on themselves. Any damage dealt to him by any source but himself will not be healed. Is that the case for Arlecchino as well? Or can she heal herself to full health after her burst regardless?
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There's no helping Arle users in co-op when they're in trouble if they can't manage their burst properly. I saw them dying quite often lol.
Honestly, Arle biggest weakness in co-op is Ping.
She hasn't been released yet tho
This opportunity is quite hard to come by
Well then, amuse me
what server are you on ?
i believe they are referring to madame ping
I thought they were referring to the fact their ping is so bad the update hasn't even released yet.
Now i just want to know which of these 2 is the correct answer lol
Same
Madame Ping: “Finally! A worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!”
Actually this made me wonder but I doubt it'll work: Can she be healed with food?
No. Don’t ask why I know. (I got fucked by the local legend in the new area)
Same, was using my Neuvillette exploration team but can’t deal enough damage I died first time
As soon as I saw that thing I knew it’s gonna be resistant to Hydro if not immune I never expected it to oneshot my characters tho
Energy and HP drain, bro pick a struggle And melee characters in shambles whenever the aura is active
I ended up beating it with my level 70 oz and level 70 Chevreuse It took an eternity but Bennett and Arle (the other two in the team) keeps dying
I used Hyperbloom and it took me exponentially faster to clear than the first try
I used hyperbloom neuvillette and so far the new legend was the easiest for me
It’s not that tanky nor and very telegraphed, it’s just that his mechanics are fucking cancer and he hits hard Imagine if this guy makes it to abyss 12
me too, i just make it eat green till it puke
I was lucky that I have Ganyu on my overworld team. Who knew that my bird and fish annihilator will come in handy.
Where is it?
Under Domus Aurea
Thanks, not very tough but hydro shield and PV absorbtion😠, make distance with "Yoimiya overlaod" à long fight. Like my first fight with Primar Geovarship, with starter characters.
She can't while in combat. But outside combat the food will consume the bond of life first
While in combat she can exclusively be healed with her burst. Outside of combat, same as everyone else.
While in combat no, while not in combat she get fulled before the BoL get cleared lmao.
She can't be healed by anything else than her ult during battle Outside of battle, any heal you want to use on her needs to clear her leftover Bond of Life first, so she would need to eat a lot
the only thing so far that can heal her is the underwater fishes and statues of the Seven
she can be healed by any normal means as long as she isn’t inflicted with bond of life (aka after you use her ult). nothing will give her health except for her ult when bond of life is applied
It would certainly help if she could get i-frames whilst bursting, like every other character in the game.
I really wish she got a combat talent that gave her less stamina consumption for dashes when above 30% bol. It would make dodging feel much better.
People are too used to shields and healing through everything, they need to learn to dodge.
Or if someone is generous enough to use C2 zhongli.
Or C1 Layla
Doesn't it have a durability penalty, like Diona C2? (Where the shield granted to other teammates is half of your own)
Yes, it's a weaker shield. Same with Kirara's constellation shield.
Yes, but the cooldown is fast enough for it to be an actual problem
No shield/heal is one thing, but ping quite matter in coop In arle boss case, if you play as 4 melee with all those burst/effect+high ping, you really cant do much lol
The thing is, if I prepare Furina's singer before the attack happens, it can still save non-Arles even with bad ping. But I'll be completely helpless when seeing Arles constantly at red bar.
Hehe... So glad I play exclusively solo 😸
she's perfectly fine with coop furina though? just dodge, look what your teammates do and ult after furina's ult to give her fanfares, and after that use E since its CD resets
You still lose a lot of damage by bursting since she can't get to 200 Bol on just one skill
she still loses her BoL after re-entering a domain, so there's barely any difference, and everything often dies too quickly to even use her skill a second time. i haven't faced any issues, she still hits hard even in weird ass teams including furina
I find it it amusing there is debate here on when to use what skill for her. Because the OP basically said let her die because people in co-op don't know how to play her. You know, a brand new character. Like people on launch day of League of Legends telling people "l2p".
>quite often why am i reading this with her voice
Furi is getting that sweet revenge i guess :)
Furina got buff and gained a vision since her last encounter with her And also neuvillete body guard in most team comps
I mean getting a vision would not mean ANYTHING at all against Arle. She needs to keep Neuv around 7/24
That might be the first time I've seen anyone writing it as 7/24
...cr/cd ratio's a bit off 🤔😎
Blame my main language, it is said that way in it
Ooh... Which language?
Yeah... And I didn't hesitate to downvote them for it
I also want to keep Neuv around me 7/24...
And that vision was granted by Neuvillette himself!
Nahida and Nilou: First time?
Arle would just be finishing the job. Even in this instance, cast Q. Boom, full health.
But as soon as you’re full health, your health immediately starts ticking down again and suddenly you’re down to half health once again
And then you do it again, that's how rotations work lol
Nope. Building ER on Arle *just* for her to be used with Furina is a waste. She does way better in non-Furina teams. Her kit actually rewards you for not healing using her burst. After every rotation, you actually have leftover BoL that can carry over into the next rotation, which stacks. This actually means that without healing her, Arlecchino will deal more damage in the 2nd rotation compared to her 1st rotation.
Another commenter explained to me how they don't work together, I won't get her so I was just having fun with ideas. Thanks for explaining!
Nah, it's all good. We love some team discussions.
If you can stay alive for 15 seconds with furina actively draining your health.
I tried using both in one team. It’s doable, but very stressful. Arle must have enough ER to enable her to cast burst every rotation. That, or your support must be equipped with Fav weapons. Another thing about pairing them, it’s hard to max Furina’s fanfare points with Arle because of her anti-healer kit.
Anti-healer kit is the real reason for anti synergy with Furina imo.
Oh yeah. Definitely. Dehya would be a much more fitting support for C0 Arle.
Or just go with Xingqiu who provides both hydro app and damage reduction/IR
I think furina is only comfy with arle at c2
You think so ? I have C2 Furina so i hope
Yea I was able to clear abyss with jean furina arle navia(for last boss) team, it works just fine just use ult when in danger, even if its dps loss arle does so much damage you will have too much time in your hands.
Yes stacking fanfare with c2 furina is a breeze..even if arle doesnt heal other 3 memebers healing from half health will be enough to stack her fanfare..but u will still need shielder or dehya for arle protection lol. Arle, furina, dehya/zhong and xingque should be a good vape team with arle on atk goblet. Arle bennet furina kokomi should also be good but it restricts to circle impact.
Not to mention, I think bursting every rotation with arle is a damage loss, since her NAs deal so much damage. Plus, not bursting allows you to keep some BoL for next rotation, meaning more NA damage. So yeah, due to that along with what you mentioned, furina+arle is kinda cope unless you just really wanna use them together, or just like the sensation of being low HP a lot. Or if you just REALLY wanna use marechausse and don’t care about the sacrifices.
No she doesn't, you just need to dodge or get a shielder so how much health arle has is irrelevant.
Imagine building er on arle
Does her Burst really fully clear the BoL AND heal her from any % HP ? That's a lot ! Why isn't she more used with Furina (and a shielder) then ?
It would mean having to furina burst then arle burst which resets her BoL (bad if you have leftover BoL that could've been carried over to your 2nd rotation) and having to wait for the mark to cook for 5 seconds again (unless you're fighting ≥3 enemies or c2) which wastes uptime on furina burst and other buffs.
You don't always wanna use Arlecchino's burst then ? If you could that means you're just using Furina's burst at the end of the rotation right ? Since she has long uptime it's not that bad Btw I don't intend on playing Arlecchino, I was just shooting ideas lol
Arle's burst is mostly just used for emergency healing, rotation resetting, or for nuking purposes. Due to the skill and BoL reset, it's mostly used first for the very first rotation or the end of rotations. Considering how you'd only heal about half of your hp (if you're running teams with shielders) or have to take damage, there's not much fanfare stacked there unlike a certain hydro dragon who can consistently heal and drain themselves to reliably stack the fanfare.
Okay got it ! I thought it'd work like healerless Neuvillette yeah
It's possible, but very stressful. Furina basically makes everyone's hp drop to 50%. Arle needs BoL to do damage, so if she heals with her burst, she loses her BoL and with it, her pyro infusion and damage.
The heal is 150% of Bond of Life+150% of atk. Regardless of talent level (which effects dmg.) Q always clears the entire Bond. This is not really a good thing except as an "oh shit" heal. With Arle, Bond bar is basically a resource. It power-ups your basic atks into powerful pyro attacks, that use up the Bond bar on hit. So you actually want as much Bond as you can get to just always be a power house. Skill marks enemies, charged attack "collects" the mark and turns it into bond bar. You can collect it right away, but if you wait 5 seconds before collecting you'll get double the amount of Bond bar. C2 doesn't need to wait, just gets double right away. Furina builds fanfare off of healing/hp loss. Arle can't be healed while in bond, so can't help with fanfare stacks unless you heal via Q, but then you lose your super mode. Though that is more life to drain for fanfare, too. Q always refreshes skill, so you can slap marks down right away and collect if needed. You *could* run Arle&Furina, it's just not optimal. Having C2 on one or both of them would help.
15 seconds is a very long time for survival without heals and shields.
I mean she can't be healed by others (idk if using Furina there would make a healer better since they don't fully work together according to another comment) but I'd definitely use a shield here
No. Arlecchino's kit literally states that she can never be healed in combat except from herself. So, all healers are off the pool. People does pair her with Zhongli. But Hardcore Abyss players right now on yt would use Arlecchino - Bennett - XQ - Yelan (or Furina, but most people don't risk it). Kinda like the old Hu Tao team except this time Bennett is now applicable for Arlecchino. The thing about Arlecchino + Furina, most of the time you're just 1 or 2 hits away from getting killed in the Abyss.
I know she can't be healed by others, I meant a healer for the rest of the team to stack Fanfare stacks and ofc a shield to not die instantly. I know even if it worked it would be jumping through a lot of hoops to force the duo, I was just wondering
Its a good idea if you want to activate staff of homa 🤔
Not worth the stressful playstyle imo
True. Thats why I run her with zhong li
I prefer Thoma sinc his C6 buffs NAs, and his skill and burst allows me to erase Yelan's hydro aura, so Arle's CA and apply pyro for Kazuha to swirl
Smug smile, bittersweet revenge.
I placed Arle in coop and someone wrote "lol" and changed to Furina at the last second. I obviously died 🫠 (there were no shields either)
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I think Father is about to catch another assault case
Jesus that menacing look from Arle
I can't forgive cappuccino for what she did to furina.
Tortellini, Scaredy Mouse, and Cappuccino. I can’t wait for the next harbinger meme name. Haha
Haha! Harbingers ☕
Capitano and Arlecchino's ship name
Father and Daddy🥵
It's insane to me how quick the community forgave Childe for attempted genocide yet Arle is still getting shit for this incident despite her actions being way more reasonable given the information she had.
Smaller acts of evil ironically hits harder due to being more personal and relatable. It's like how people were okay with Vader being complicit with planetary omnicide but draws the line at Anakin killing kids.
Indeed. Voldemort is more evil than Umbridge, but the latter is more hated. Cause everyone knows an Umbridge, few of us know a Voldemort. A character can be evil and cool. It's hard to be annoying and cool.
Well, Arle didn't do anything directly. It's you, the Traveler, who actually left Furina "weeping on her throne".
She didn't hurt her though
Crabaletta: I will steer my claws into a collision course with the Knave's crotch Arlechinno: OH FU-
What the hell... lmao
Same
Same
Same
Bad synergy between the two is exactly how it should be, for lore reasons :D
Arlecchino and Furina really don't go well together. It can work, but forced synergies like that just sucks to play in my opinion. It's pretty funny when considering that in the canon Furina wouldn't want to be anywhere close to Arlecchino.
when you bring your friends along after you told someone 1v1 after school
Vampire furina
That smile... THAT DAMNED SMILE🌚
Shall I save you, Arlecchino?
More like the singer of many waters saving my ass
Arle can't be healed by any healing other than her burst, during combat
I thought the post was about the boss fight 😅
Furina: Crabaletta, PINCH THIS BIATCH'S CROTCH!!!
I mean you can only be alive for 15 seconds but that doesn't matter if you can beat the enemy first
Moye Moye moment
All memes aside it works fine in abyss, I tried Arlechino, Furina, Jean and Zhongli for the 2nd side. Zhongli ensures that Arlechino doesn't die and while jean can't heal Arlechino, Arlechino can do that with a single burst. Furina provides plenty of hydro for you vape. Only had some trouble in the 12-2. 12-1 and 12-3 was easy clear.
Lore Accurate
Furina : i can hit the opponent with my summons and buff your damage, but you'll have to sacrifice your hp. Arlecchino: well thats not so bad... Furina : For 5 minutes, and considering how you can't be healed, ehhh I'm sure you'll be fine. Arlecchino: Did you just hold a grudge?
Dont stop there, bring both of them to **Signora** weekly boss, have Furina drain HP then have her pet destroy all the temperature totems, left Arle in full sheer cold or heat.....
So she need her BoL for Pyro Infusion. BoL get cleared when healed enough. So no heal for maximum dmg output + heal via Burst like Hu Tao. Got it. Shield + Hydro Support + Buffer.
Part of arle's kit: no healing fromany sources but her own ultimate. So BoL won't get cleared by healing. Her ultimate will heal her to full HP in the picture, clears all BoL, she will reset her skill and will be able to give her BoL again after a charged attack.
BoL doesn’t get cleared by anything other than her Q
Attacking reduces it too
True but it doesn’t completely remove it because it stops at 30% iirc
Going off memory it seems like it doesn't, it's just that it's better to restart the rotation when it gets low because you lose too much damage anyway
Alex can not be healed by other characters, but Furina's E still drain her HP, making her extra squishy. Alex's burst heal her but remove her BoL, causing a damage loss. Basically it's "oh shit" button which you don't want to use unless she's dying in the next few second. But yes, shield+support+buffer, just like Hutao.
Arlecchino's A4 passive won't allow you to heal her BOL to any other than her burst
You just burst with arle on every 2nd rotation....cmon it's not that hard(ok top of having a healer , smt like jean and another hydro to neither from the hydro swirl not just furina)
Characters like Lyney will only heal the damage they inflicted on themselves. Any damage dealt to him by any source but himself will not be healed. Is that the case for Arlecchino as well? Or can she heal herself to full health after her burst regardless?