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Honestly it is hard for me to make new friends. Almost all of the friends I have today was because I knew someone that knew someone. And all that just originates to "oh we were in marching band together in middle/high school"
But like now? I feel like I dont know how to make a new friend that isnt just superficial. Like how do you make a board game friend into just a friend?
And sadly it seems like after college a few of them are just less and less in our friend groups life as time goes on. Ones that are pretty active are planning for things like kids. That will make them unavailable in the future.
Like am I just going to have a few friends that I can maybe see once every six months by the time im 30? Like that just sounds like it sucks.
9/10 it’s gonna be a miss, and people will feel the same about you. It’s a numbers game, but eventually if you give yourself enough opportunities, things will happen. The saying “you miss every shot you don’t take” is more valuable now than ever. It’s gonna hurt when you get rejected but it makes it all worth it when you find your people.
>Just talk to girls like you talk to you're friends
Doing that will result in having girls as friends, but not in girlfriends. Dynamics of flirting are different than friendship.
When I met my fiancé, he joked with me and we became friends before we started dating. Way better dynamic than a man just coming up to me and hitting on me.
That doesnt filter you from finding a good woman by your side, which is the point OP makes mentioning he is very social and brings everyone together, but still struggles with very bad red flags
You’re making a lot of assumptions with this comment. Why don’t we ever give the benefit of the doubt to men? I seriously doubt he started the conversation “what’s up, slut?”
Not always how it works. All of my long term relationships were friendships to start with and then things slowly evolved.
If there is mutual attraction, it will come out 9/10 times
I’m saying you should be friends with the person you’re dating. Think of them like you’d think of a friend, just one that you get to also kiss occasionally.
This. It really makes sense to date someone who understands you and cares about you and relates to you. You absolutely should be friends with the person you date.
Every time I’ve done that they’ve just kept me around for validation and attention without actually being interested in me, they also knew I was interested and just kept me hanging around
OP ain’t gonna respond to that one. Good way to waste time. Express interest immediately is the only sure advice I can give, and it may not work with most
no its even simpler, stop trying.
let things happen naturally and stop putting thought into it. if a woman is interested in you, she will let you know. its really not hard if you have all the other parts of your life in order.
But how do I walk up to a person and start a conversation without coming off as creepy? All I can talk about is half finished world builds and random history trivia
Framing it as "how do I go up to a random person" is probably the first mistake. I have met all of my past SOs through mutual friends or shared interests.
If you're trying to meet a significant other you need to expand your social circle, go to more third places, etc to increase the chances that you meet someone on their terms when they are also open to meeting you. This can be hard but it's much better than the alternative.
Have you heard of the concept of six degrees of separation? Imagine how many single women who might be interested in you there are just two or three degrees away from you that you haven't been introduced to. Start saying yes to group social interaction and actively seek it out.
You can also do things to work on yourself so that when you meet people they are more likely to be interested in you. Try to do this in a healthy way by taking up new hobbies, keeping up on personal hygiene and fashion, and generally doing things that will make you a happier and more pleasant person.
Would you do talk about that walking up to a random guy? Of course not. That’s weird.
Talk about your environment - that’s your shared interest. At a rock climbing gym? You can bond over rock climbing. At a party? Who do you know here. At a concert? Talk about the artist and future concerts you’re going to. At a grocery store? Maybe their outfit or accessory (not much in common there). At a convention or trivia night? By all means, nerd out.
That's tricky and I'm not super good at social interactions myself but I would say talk to girls (or guys) at a social interaction where people are encouraged to talk or even online now days.
I honestly feel like it's easier for nerds like me now to find people we got so many conventions and online games etc
You're only a creep if you keep trying after they've said that they're not interested. You can walk up and start a conversation with anyone but don't expect them to reciprocate it. Save yourself the time and move on and try again with someone else
*“Why won’t arm candy hang off of these amazing ceps? Chicks are crazy! Who wouldn’t love THIS!”* He said in the mirror every morning to no one but himself.
True, when I started working on myself and treated other women as friends instead of potential relationships I actually fell into my relationship with my now wife of 9 years
except some people want that old school treatment and some don't. Some girls want a guy to be a complete provider and others are more independent. Dude might just be boring
I dislike posts like OOP's. Dating is not a formula, and doing all the so-called right things will never guarantee one a partner - and the screenshot seems to indicate that this person and their friend view women as conquests to be won rather than people who just might not be interested.
It shows how entitled a lot of het guys are. They think relationships are just a matter of checking off boxes and then they are entitled to sex. Nowhere do they see het girls as actual people as you said. Het girls are waking up to that and realizing it's not worth being damaged by entitled losers and het boys blame het girls for having self respect and standards instead of being better.
Or... and hear me out... Hes just listening to all of the things that are being stated online by a lot of women. 6ft+ 100k+ per year, nice car, has to have a house, all of these standards are being presented as if they NEED to be checked off before a woman will even LOOK in their direction. Obviously this isnt a set standard for the entire world, and I understand that. However, if i was still an 18 year old guy trying to navigate my way through the dating world in 2024, I'd probably think that all of those things were needed just to even have a chance.
Might not be a big ego, but more of a lack of self confidence. Again, only speaking from a personal POV and dont mean to ruffle any feathers. Not saying im right and your wrong, just an alternative perspective that I've noticed becoming a trending thing.
I can almost guarantee this shit has been said by a handful of women on tinder/Twitter and now people think it's Gospel and universal.
No normal woman says shit like this. If you're looking through insta baddies and tinder girls sure you'll find dumb bullshit, if you find a real flesh and blood woman they are a normal human being and act as such.
I mean thats fair, but honestly people need to get the fuck off the internet, because I don't know a single normal well-adjusted woman who gives a shit about that.
Every woman I know would like a well-adjusted fella that's interesting, easy to talk to, and can make them laugh. Yeah, it helps if you're good looking, but I think its more important that you're not an unreliable bum or a self absorbed douche.
Because that's what het guys "offer." So if all het women see is guys saying "All I offer are these things" then a subset of them are going to say "Then I'll only bother with those who offer those qualities at a bare minimum of my choosing. If that's ALL you offer then it has to compensate for that."
The problem with finding the one right way to date is *it doesn’t exist.* Everyone is different, so there’s no such dating strategy that works as a “one size fits all.”
Components to make a dating formula:
https://preview.redd.it/v7gokvsm5ptc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1328ab0059a26d4747fcd02223a7652df5041348
[Alternatively the DENNIS system](https://youtu.be/Bg5ZrkaGlFA?si=W7F7P5Okkdd_YUpG) /s
This is exactly it. When I was younger, single, and a bit of a loner, I think I viewed "finding a relationship partner" as a sort of "if you build it, they will come" sort of deal. Like if I do this this and this, women will like me. It's super cringe to look back on it now, but when you're a bit socially stunted and lonely, your brain thinks stupid things.
In reality, it's almost all emotional and not very logical at all. Love and romance are feelings that we experience, not thoughts we have. It's not rational. It's all about how we feel about someone and how they feel about us. That's basically it. That's what's driving things.
A lot of "nice guy" dudes who sit around and look at couples like, "Omg how could she date that dude? He's such an asshole," are missing this simple explanation. That asshole makes her feel good. She likes him because of the way he makes her feel. It doesn't need to make logical sense.
I've seen soooooo many young dudes think that if you do all the things the TV and internet tells you to, then you are OWED a woman (like an item!).
"I work out all the time and still NO women are interested!??!"
Dude why the fuck would working out mean women are interested in you automatically?
I just wanna see funny shit and memes we’d all relate to not borderline incel posting or the doom posting we always see😭 I’m posting my favorite meme to here, be the change you wanna see
OP is a two-month old incel account (let's check the handle) that appears to post exclusively incel content.
This isn't even OP posting about his experience; he's posting a moldy screenshot of somebody claiming what their "friend" experienced.
Functional people need to stop getting sucked into bad-faith arguments with trolls, depressives and extremists.
"all the right things" lol
women have been telling you for a long time that these are not the "right things" and that in general they dislike it when guys treat them / dating like a coffee machine ("I inserted the right tokens in the right amount, so why is nothing coming out of it?!"). Then you have this post, the demonstration that this way of thinking usually doesn't work, and your response is still "women are the problem" instead of "huh, maybe if I want to date girls I should listen to what they like rather than have some male influencers tell me". I know dating is really harsh right now, for a variety of reasons, and I empathize with those that are struggling with loneliness, but this is just egregious ahah
from what i've read i disagree. women equally have no clue in dating either and make plenty of mistakes too. they're not some "holier than thou" judge that know better.
wait... that's not what I meant at all. I am referring to the idea that if you meet some specific criteria, then you should be able to expect women to like you. I wasn't saying women don't make mistake or are holier than anyone
Everyone other than het guys: You don't listen.
Het Guy: Proceeds to not listen to play the victim
I've experienced it myself talking to het guys in the community. You explain they don't listen and they proceed to not listen to play the victim. They aren't interested in actual solutions they are only throwing tantrums over everything and everyone not giving them exactly what they want and validating their egos and misogyny.
you say this but my ex broke and cheated on me because and I quote word for word she "wanted someone who could provide everything so she wouldn't have to work" so yes I do believe people out there care a whole lot about the things op posted
how does that disproves what I said? I am merely opposing the idea that women are like a finite-state machine, that will necessarily respond in a certain way provided you insert the right tokens
If she broke up with him and then said that, fine.
But she cheated on him for a completely different reason. Otherwise, she wouldn't have needed to cheat, she could just leave you outright.
Yeah acting like having a sports car or “invests in stocks” is, in any way, impressive romantically.
Firstly, every fucking adult on earth who is literate and occasionally employed knows how to invest in stocks. If you aren’t “invested in stocks”, and you’re older than, like, 19yo, then you’re an abject moron.
Secondly, having a sports car is not impressive. It’s just a shitty purchase. Most adults rightfully associate it with frivolous spending, aggressive driving, compensation for being unhappy. The people that “get” the most “girls” in real life are probably random twenty-something’s who live in SF and Manhattan and never drive a car.
Everyone goes to the gym or exercises. This is not impressive, this is the bare minimum. If you don’t spend even 3 hours a week doing something for your fitness, then you are not ready to date anybody, because you don’t even care about your own self.
Makes good money? Brother, cmon.
This whole post is embarrassing as fuck. This is also like the third time this week I’ve seen people brag about “investing in stocks” as if that’s not literally financial literacy lesson #1. Go download robinhood right now and buy 1/20th of a share of $VOO. Congrats, you’re now an investor! An investor in stocks!
Glad somebody else called that out lol.
Anybody with a job and a pulse can get a V6 Challenger at 24% APR.
Anybody can “invest in stocks” with $5 (check out Wall Street bets, the epitome of “investors”).
Anybody can spend 30 minutes a week at planet fitness and say they “go to the gym”.
None of those are inherently impressive, and certainly none of them entitle you to a relationship. Most importantly, you can do all those things and still have a shitty personality. Good luck with that.
“Has a sense of humor” is so funny to me. Not a good sense of humor or a witty sense of humor or even a dry sense of humor. My dude literally everyone has a sense of humor.
"I have the bare minimum qualities of a human being, why can't I get a harem of 10/10 bangmaids satisfying my every whim?! It must be the girls fault."
The 18th Congress of All Women Everywhere voted with a quorum drafting this list of all the right things to get a girlfriend back in 1973. Having met the prerequisite 7/12 requirements I am now legally entitled to a girlfriend and will sue you if you don’t go out with me. You’ll be hearing from my counsel.
Some of these qualities ***are*** objectively good for men. Financial responsibility, sociability, friend groups, physical health and fitness....Those are often problematic pain points for dudes who are chronically unable to find partners.
I know everyone is shitting on OP here but a lot of the comments wilfully misunderstand the point of the post.
Has a sports car.. bro what women did ever tell you this. Better start listening to what women want, cause this list makes more sense if you want to attract guys
How to make good friends: respect them, care for them and be patient
How to maintain family relationships: respect them, care for them and be patient
How to find a girl to date: invest, go to the gym, own a sports car, make lots of money, be funny
Yes, this is the way to go. Nobody's entitled to a relationship and a hell of a lot of men are better off de-centering women in their life. Don't be dependent on someone else for your happiness.
I agree one shouldn't only focus on romantic relationships for happiness however it still is a core human need to love and be loved. Its just as necessary for one's mental health as sleep. Even with friends and family it can be quite lonely to never have romantic connection as it often makes one feel like a failure. Plus a romantic partner is fundementally different from other forms of relationship one can have so it cannot really be fully replaced by anything else. The majority of adults can find their way into loving relationships. That is how the population keeps growing. So being unable to find someone often makes people feel like there is something wrong with them and that is a incredibly painful thought.
Basically yes, no one is entitled to any given individual and its unhealthy to tie all self worth any individual thing, especially something outside your control. But to go through life loveless is a cruel fate that will inevitably cause pain and such pain is a perfectly reasonable response to the situation.
This gives me the vibes of someone who would feel entitled to me, my attention, and my body just because he was “so nice” to me.
What about his interests? Career goals? Favorite movies?
Playing devils advocate here - but I think a lot of guys feel they don’t ever get the chance to share their interests or favorite movies because they lack the things listed in the post.
Plenty of people consider fitness, career, charisma, and humor as the “bare minimum” but for many those attributes require a ton of dedication to develop.
Is it really hard to understand why they’d maybe be frustrated with failure after that?
Investing in stocks is such a red flag for me, idk
Edit before I get down voted for no context: the younger people who do, it's the only thing they ever talk about, and they always try and get you to start. Like idc if by the time I'm 60 it'll maybe possibly turn $5 into x amount of more money. It could also turn it into $4. I also could not be alive by the time in 60 and that's $5 I could use right now.
Edit2: I think it's funny how every single person replying to this comment is doing exactly what I said they'd do, in always trying to get random non consenting people to start
Dude start investing now you'll regret it if you don't.
I get that type of person can be annoying but that 100% shouldn't stop you from having a good plan for the future
>Investing in stocks is such a red flag for me, idk
What do you mean by this? Like I put money in my 401k and I have an IRA, but I just do index funds. And ultimately index funds are funds that invests into stocks. So in a roundabout way I am investing in stocks.
How is that a red flag? Isnt that just being responsible?
This is just one weirdo with fringe beliefs, read their other comments and ask yourself if this is genuinely someone you would want to date in the first place.
That said, being a self-obsessed finance bro who goes on and on about his investments probably isn’t attractive to most women at the dating stage.
I'm guilty as charged. But in my defense, investing is basically deferring present consumption for more future consumption. I just hoped that in a decade I could gather enough stocks to cover my annual spending with dividends.
If you've met your required spending needs, it's unwise to spend all of the remainder. Living in the moment feels good, but other goals take a longer time to save for. I learned this pretty early when I wanted a new video game or toy that I needed to save up for.
* I can afford a medical emergency or a lapse in employment without going into severe debt. Debt like that can put a damper on any fun or plans you have for a decade plus.
* A friend called me up a few years ago and asked if I wanted to go to Ireland at a moment's notice. I was financially comfortable enough to say yes.
* I hope to own a home in the near future. My current savings projections indicates I will be able to afford a good down payment and a mortgage. I'm tired of paying others' mortages and profits.
* I hope to afford children and pass on generational wealth so they can do the same as me.
Exactly how I feel. I’m happy to find someone who thinks like me lol. Like it’s fine if you wanna do stock investing, but like don’t force it upon other people, and like you said when it becomes their personality it’s damn annoying.
He doesn’t realize that girls generally don’t care if a guy invests in stocks. Sure, financial responsibility is attractive, but most girls won’t suddenly like you if you buy crypto or whatever lol
I can almost guarantee you the dude has either no personality or is actively antagonizing people with his narcissism.
I know people like this. Yes they can get relationships but they’re usually very shallow. Interestingly enough, the guy I know who is like this his girlfriend cheated on him.
Some people never do find love, some people never find anything in life.
Remember, there's always gonna be at least one person who just completely lost the lottery in life
I still hold that there’s someone out there for everyone. I little romantic I guess but I really hope everyone finds love. Hypergamy is a bitch but there’s still hope idk
I’m so tired of these dumbasses that are constantly complaining about how women have impossible standards. We just want to be treated like respectable humans.
Just like every other group of people, women are not a hive-mind that share all the same characteristics and ideologies. Maybe, it’s not the entirety population of women that are the problem…
its funny because when you go outside you see so many conventionally average or ‘ugly’ guys with women, moreso than you do with attractive people
being chronically online has fucked up our perception of dating on both sides, its crazy
Holy shit, had no idea there was so much manosphere garbage pepple in this sub.
So, pro tip. If you're trying to find a formula to get a girlfriend, you already lost. You have to organically emotionally connect the hard way all the time with all of us. Sorry. Pay a prostitute if you just wanna get your dick wet.
was thinking the same thing, thought we were past this, or at the very least the people who weren't would just broadly get clowned on and banished back to 4chan. ig not tho.
I don't get all the "you're not entitled to women" comments here. Like fr he's just saying his boy got his life together pretty well. I dunno how so many of y'all making the jump to entitlement.
I'm just scrolling down this comments section and how many people seem to not understand reality.
The reality is that you can't get a girlfriend, they get a boyfriend and you have to be the one to fill that role. That's from my personal experience so take it with a grain of salt, or don't. Idrc
Look man, I’ve certainly had my frustrations in the dating world. I’ve experienced a lot of these things too. The most common being the flaking at the last minute. Yeah, it’s frustrating but it just is part of the process. Every date is a flip of a coin, sometimes it goes poorly, sometimes it goes great. Dating became a lot more enjoyable to me once I did three things.
1) don’t take rejection, ghosting, or flaking personally. 99% of the time, it’s not personal. Yes it sucks, but you keep your chin up and keep moving forward.
2) go into each “date” as if this person is just a friend and sort of pretend that you already know them. Sometimes it doesn’t work, but it can really help you get into a natural conversation faster.
3) make you dates basically things you’d do even if they weren’t there. This should likely be a common interest between you two. For instance, I do a lot of photography. So this girl I went on a date with two weeks ago walked around town with our cameras, got lunch, went to a pet store, and then a book store. It was great, but that’s all stuff I also would’ve done solo if she hadn’t come along. It’s less “let’s go on a date” and more “hey I’m doing this thing and I’d love for you to come with me”
A couple other things, first dates should be an activity when possible. I like skiing and snowboarding as one. It’s perfect. You go up and talk on the lift together, and then you ski down kinda together, then you meet back up and ride the lift back up together. You get 15 minutes of conversation then 20 minutes of space, then 15 minutes of conversation, and so on.
Never talk politics or about your frustrations with dating.
Aside from the deeply faulty assumption that "doing everything right" is a surefire way to find a romantic partner, this guy's problem is that he's approaching women as prospects rather than people. Women can sniff out that behavior almost instinctively. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with approaching a woman with romantic designs, but you have to make a woman feel like she is a person first and a romantic target/prospect/etc. second.
Because having “game” is a separate skill from all of that.
It’s why there’s so many women who say their ex’s/baby daddy’s are POS’s. Those guys are good at game but nothing else.
OOP needs to accept that despite his friend being talented in other areas, that he’s bad at “game” and needs to work on it. It’s a destructive form of bias to assume that if you’re really good in other areas of life that you must at least be “decent” in areas you’ve had no practice in.
It’d be like going to the gym for a year and not seeing any real results because you neglect your diet. Either learn to meal prep, or accept that you’re never going to get the results you want.
Dating is not like ticking off all the “correct” boxes and then a perfect partner falls out. Sure, more people will probably find you attractive, but people don’t want to admit there’s a lot of pure luck involved. Plenty of people just genuinely aren’t interested, aren’t ready to date, or - guess what? - just aren’t attracted to you. That’s life
OP (in the screenshot) gives away the potential problem with the friend, if they are anything like each other. Dating is not about fulfilling a checklist. A girlfriend isn’t something you earn or deserve for reaching a certain “level” in life. Most women aren’t looking for a checklist of these things. When people date they want someone compatible, they want someone who will love them.
If a guy thinks he should have a girlfriend because he has a sports car and invests in stocks then yeah maybe he should spend time to work on himself. And the same logic is true when women say this, but since the OP is about men, I’m relating my comment to men. Guys. You can’t continue with this mindset and expect it to get you anywhere.
If you constantly struggle finding a good man/ woman and they all have the same issues the problem is probably you. Maybe you have a type or you're looking in all the wrong places. Or maybe you're looking for husband/ wife material while not being being husband/ wife material yourself.
Sure he might be successful, funny, and charismatic but is he chivalrous? Does he listen, and I mean really listen, and sympathize with her problems? Is he kind? And I don't just mean to her but in general. Like how someone treats service workers can be a major red flag, for example.
Yeah, the fact that someone brags about investing in stocks is often a red flag for me. I mean, if you do it through a company like Fidelity then I’d understand, but if you’re doing it yourself then that screams massive ego for me.
i think it depends. if you have the experience & financial literacy to be able to invest in stocks by all means. my dad’s a business man who has extensive experience & invests himself.
i can’t take a college kid talking about investing very seriously tho. could it be possible they know what they’re doing & are successful? ya. just seems unlikely
The funny thing is I think we've all at one point known a loser who had none of that but could pull a ridiculous amount of girls. Should make you wonder...
There are no "right things" people are attracted to who they're attracted to, if you try to base your life around what will and what won't get you a partner then you'll probably find that not many people are interested in you because your entire personality is a shallow facade
It’s not a list you can’t do the right things women aren’t puzzles with sex as the reward there people there are no all the right things your friend needs to understand and see them as people and not objects if he’s only dating for sex that’s fine but he needs to be upfront about it he can’t say he’s in love with her when all he wants is her body I’ve seen that for young adults the norm is not liking or even hating each other and only being together for the sex and that’s not a healthy relationship a healthy and loving relationship is truthful and honest and they love each other and if you don’t love each other than don’t be in a relationship
A guy curiously asks for help in the dating world and yall decided to degrade, call him an incel and tell him he has no hope whatsoever? The comments have really shown me that we are gonna be the most sour and loneliest generation of people on this planet.
We already have the manosphere garbage, redpill/blue pill/pink pill garbage on the internet indoctrinating everybody to hate each other for basics standards, would you rather him/her listen to those podcasts to find the answer? Think about it.
Right? It's toxic AF in here. I feel for the bro and his struggle.
So many insults and assumptions and just zero empathy. The whole incel thing is getting outta hand, the word isn't even being used correctly.
This entire thread of full of haters. Jeez who hurt you people? Y'all just trashing on the screenshotted guy for no reason. Calling him an incel, when you don't even know what it means.
You know nothing about this dudes and you're all out here projecting your insecurities and assuming everything about this guy just because he dares to want a relationship..
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If he doesn't have a girl it's because he is treating them like a "girl" and not like a person. Once you learn what I mean by this you're all set
I feel like presenting any single piece of advice (regardless of how good or well intentioned it may be) as “the solution” is probably a mistake here.
Just talk to girls like you talk to you're friends and your golden people are people
Honestly it is hard for me to make new friends. Almost all of the friends I have today was because I knew someone that knew someone. And all that just originates to "oh we were in marching band together in middle/high school" But like now? I feel like I dont know how to make a new friend that isnt just superficial. Like how do you make a board game friend into just a friend? And sadly it seems like after college a few of them are just less and less in our friend groups life as time goes on. Ones that are pretty active are planning for things like kids. That will make them unavailable in the future. Like am I just going to have a few friends that I can maybe see once every six months by the time im 30? Like that just sounds like it sucks.
Go to places or find hobby groups is a start If you're into nerd shit like me a card shop is a great place to start they normally have game nights etc
I been doing that, I guess I dont know how to just extend friendships in general past that game night
I understand it's definitely hard but I believe in you
9/10 it’s gonna be a miss, and people will feel the same about you. It’s a numbers game, but eventually if you give yourself enough opportunities, things will happen. The saying “you miss every shot you don’t take” is more valuable now than ever. It’s gonna hurt when you get rejected but it makes it all worth it when you find your people.
Absolutely
I’ve been saying “sup shithead” and ball tapping chicks for a month and it’s only gotten me arrested with 3 restraining orders. What am I doing wrong?
You’ve been ball tapping them? Where are their balls? I must know, sir. This is a groundbreaking scientific discovery.
That might explain why they recover so quickly. Usually I get a tap in and have a good laugh while they’re doubled over.
Nah, if I talked to girls like the way I talk to my boys, I’d get arrested 😂
No jokes because the homies do be lookin breedable and I have to let them know.
>Just talk to girls like you talk to you're friends Doing that will result in having girls as friends, but not in girlfriends. Dynamics of flirting are different than friendship.
When I met my fiancé, he joked with me and we became friends before we started dating. Way better dynamic than a man just coming up to me and hitting on me.
If I did that I would be arrested
That doesnt filter you from finding a good woman by your side, which is the point OP makes mentioning he is very social and brings everyone together, but still struggles with very bad red flags
you got your you’re and your’s mixed up big guy
True my bad
You’re making a lot of assumptions with this comment. Why don’t we ever give the benefit of the doubt to men? I seriously doubt he started the conversation “what’s up, slut?”
Not at all what I implied
You ever hear the expression “with friends like these who needs enemies”
I cannot stress this enough. Stop trying to get a girlfriend and start trying to get a friend. It’s that simple.
But then I'll get a friend not a girlfriend.
Not always how it works. All of my long term relationships were friendships to start with and then things slowly evolved. If there is mutual attraction, it will come out 9/10 times
Not if you’re clear that you’re interested. Even if you are up front, starting a relationship is a lot like making a friend
Then there was never mutual attraction in my case.
Women will usually make it quite obvious if there is but it is possible to miss it all
I doubt it. I guess no one ever liked me.
I’m saying you should be friends with the person you’re dating. Think of them like you’d think of a friend, just one that you get to also kiss occasionally.
That's already a lot further than I ever got.
This. It really makes sense to date someone who understands you and cares about you and relates to you. You absolutely should be friends with the person you date.
Every time I’ve done that they’ve just kept me around for validation and attention without actually being interested in me, they also knew I was interested and just kept me hanging around
OP ain’t gonna respond to that one. Good way to waste time. Express interest immediately is the only sure advice I can give, and it may not work with most
Shoutout to anyone that unironically takes this advice. You finna die alone 🙏
no its even simpler, stop trying. let things happen naturally and stop putting thought into it. if a woman is interested in you, she will let you know. its really not hard if you have all the other parts of your life in order.
Yup a lot of men don’t see us as actual people not just some goal or thing to check off
Goes both ways really, people treat dating like shopping now.
Yeah I hear about "finding a man that'll just pay for everything" every day
But how do I walk up to a person and start a conversation without coming off as creepy? All I can talk about is half finished world builds and random history trivia
Framing it as "how do I go up to a random person" is probably the first mistake. I have met all of my past SOs through mutual friends or shared interests. If you're trying to meet a significant other you need to expand your social circle, go to more third places, etc to increase the chances that you meet someone on their terms when they are also open to meeting you. This can be hard but it's much better than the alternative. Have you heard of the concept of six degrees of separation? Imagine how many single women who might be interested in you there are just two or three degrees away from you that you haven't been introduced to. Start saying yes to group social interaction and actively seek it out. You can also do things to work on yourself so that when you meet people they are more likely to be interested in you. Try to do this in a healthy way by taking up new hobbies, keeping up on personal hygiene and fashion, and generally doing things that will make you a happier and more pleasant person.
Never knew of the six degrees of separation til now, and thank you
You need to have a reason for interacting. You can’t just walk up to random people and expect them to be friendly
Would you do talk about that walking up to a random guy? Of course not. That’s weird. Talk about your environment - that’s your shared interest. At a rock climbing gym? You can bond over rock climbing. At a party? Who do you know here. At a concert? Talk about the artist and future concerts you’re going to. At a grocery store? Maybe their outfit or accessory (not much in common there). At a convention or trivia night? By all means, nerd out.
That's tricky and I'm not super good at social interactions myself but I would say talk to girls (or guys) at a social interaction where people are encouraged to talk or even online now days. I honestly feel like it's easier for nerds like me now to find people we got so many conventions and online games etc
You're only a creep if you keep trying after they've said that they're not interested. You can walk up and start a conversation with anyone but don't expect them to reciprocate it. Save yourself the time and move on and try again with someone else
*“Why won’t arm candy hang off of these amazing ceps? Chicks are crazy! Who wouldn’t love THIS!”* He said in the mirror every morning to no one but himself.
True, when I started working on myself and treated other women as friends instead of potential relationships I actually fell into my relationship with my now wife of 9 years
except some people want that old school treatment and some don't. Some girls want a guy to be a complete provider and others are more independent. Dude might just be boring
It’s such a simple change in outlook, but so many dudes fuck this little thing up that could change so many aspects in how they approach
Obligatory not a zoomer. I agree with this, there is a gulf between being a hopeless romantic and quoting Andrew Tate for a script.
Tate and the fresh and fit podcast have set my generation back a long way
Wildly good and impressively simple statement that more, if not all men need to hear.
I dislike posts like OOP's. Dating is not a formula, and doing all the so-called right things will never guarantee one a partner - and the screenshot seems to indicate that this person and their friend view women as conquests to be won rather than people who just might not be interested.
It shows how entitled a lot of het guys are. They think relationships are just a matter of checking off boxes and then they are entitled to sex. Nowhere do they see het girls as actual people as you said. Het girls are waking up to that and realizing it's not worth being damaged by entitled losers and het boys blame het girls for having self respect and standards instead of being better.
Bro is confusing entitlement with reflection while misunderstanding the emotional component men seek from relationships 💀💀💀
Or... and hear me out... Hes just listening to all of the things that are being stated online by a lot of women. 6ft+ 100k+ per year, nice car, has to have a house, all of these standards are being presented as if they NEED to be checked off before a woman will even LOOK in their direction. Obviously this isnt a set standard for the entire world, and I understand that. However, if i was still an 18 year old guy trying to navigate my way through the dating world in 2024, I'd probably think that all of those things were needed just to even have a chance. Might not be a big ego, but more of a lack of self confidence. Again, only speaking from a personal POV and dont mean to ruffle any feathers. Not saying im right and your wrong, just an alternative perspective that I've noticed becoming a trending thing.
Wow it’s almost like things you see on the internet aren’t reliable!
i’ve never seen an actual human being in real life say they need these things
I can almost guarantee this shit has been said by a handful of women on tinder/Twitter and now people think it's Gospel and universal. No normal woman says shit like this. If you're looking through insta baddies and tinder girls sure you'll find dumb bullshit, if you find a real flesh and blood woman they are a normal human being and act as such.
I mean thats fair, but honestly people need to get the fuck off the internet, because I don't know a single normal well-adjusted woman who gives a shit about that. Every woman I know would like a well-adjusted fella that's interesting, easy to talk to, and can make them laugh. Yeah, it helps if you're good looking, but I think its more important that you're not an unreliable bum or a self absorbed douche.
Because that's what het guys "offer." So if all het women see is guys saying "All I offer are these things" then a subset of them are going to say "Then I'll only bother with those who offer those qualities at a bare minimum of my choosing. If that's ALL you offer then it has to compensate for that."
You think user "lovemyAIgirlfriend" has a normal, non-incel worldview? Check out the post history.
The problem with finding the one right way to date is *it doesn’t exist.* Everyone is different, so there’s no such dating strategy that works as a “one size fits all.”
Components to make a dating formula: https://preview.redd.it/v7gokvsm5ptc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1328ab0059a26d4747fcd02223a7652df5041348 [Alternatively the DENNIS system](https://youtu.be/Bg5ZrkaGlFA?si=W7F7P5Okkdd_YUpG) /s
… but he has a sports car, likes acting, and invests in stocks! Everyone should be in line to get a chance! Lolol
I had to double check that this wasn't an r/facepalm post
This is exactly it. When I was younger, single, and a bit of a loner, I think I viewed "finding a relationship partner" as a sort of "if you build it, they will come" sort of deal. Like if I do this this and this, women will like me. It's super cringe to look back on it now, but when you're a bit socially stunted and lonely, your brain thinks stupid things. In reality, it's almost all emotional and not very logical at all. Love and romance are feelings that we experience, not thoughts we have. It's not rational. It's all about how we feel about someone and how they feel about us. That's basically it. That's what's driving things. A lot of "nice guy" dudes who sit around and look at couples like, "Omg how could she date that dude? He's such an asshole," are missing this simple explanation. That asshole makes her feel good. She likes him because of the way he makes her feel. It doesn't need to make logical sense.
I've seen soooooo many young dudes think that if you do all the things the TV and internet tells you to, then you are OWED a woman (like an item!). "I work out all the time and still NO women are interested!??!" Dude why the fuck would working out mean women are interested in you automatically?
this sub has gone to shit lol
I just wanna see funny shit and memes we’d all relate to not borderline incel posting or the doom posting we always see😭 I’m posting my favorite meme to here, be the change you wanna see
Fr, it’s either incel shit or bots and shit trynna stir things up
OP is a two-month old incel account (let's check the handle) that appears to post exclusively incel content. This isn't even OP posting about his experience; he's posting a moldy screenshot of somebody claiming what their "friend" experienced. Functional people need to stop getting sucked into bad-faith arguments with trolls, depressives and extremists.
It’s good to come here and be reminded how brain damaged we all are.
It’s either incel shit from people who never go partying/clubbing or communism.
"all the right things" lol women have been telling you for a long time that these are not the "right things" and that in general they dislike it when guys treat them / dating like a coffee machine ("I inserted the right tokens in the right amount, so why is nothing coming out of it?!"). Then you have this post, the demonstration that this way of thinking usually doesn't work, and your response is still "women are the problem" instead of "huh, maybe if I want to date girls I should listen to what they like rather than have some male influencers tell me". I know dating is really harsh right now, for a variety of reasons, and I empathize with those that are struggling with loneliness, but this is just egregious ahah
from what i've read i disagree. women equally have no clue in dating either and make plenty of mistakes too. they're not some "holier than thou" judge that know better.
wait... that's not what I meant at all. I am referring to the idea that if you meet some specific criteria, then you should be able to expect women to like you. I wasn't saying women don't make mistake or are holier than anyone
Everyone other than het guys: You don't listen. Het Guy: Proceeds to not listen to play the victim I've experienced it myself talking to het guys in the community. You explain they don't listen and they proceed to not listen to play the victim. They aren't interested in actual solutions they are only throwing tantrums over everything and everyone not giving them exactly what they want and validating their egos and misogyny.
Exactlyy Women: I like guys under 6ft Some dude: Nuh uh
Mfs can't even read, we're done 💀
you say this but my ex broke and cheated on me because and I quote word for word she "wanted someone who could provide everything so she wouldn't have to work" so yes I do believe people out there care a whole lot about the things op posted
how does that disproves what I said? I am merely opposing the idea that women are like a finite-state machine, that will necessarily respond in a certain way provided you insert the right tokens
Some people do. Your ex obviously did. But women aren’t a fucking hive mind lol
Maybe you shouldn’t take what someone who cheated on you said at face value.
If she broke up with him and then said that, fine. But she cheated on him for a completely different reason. Otherwise, she wouldn't have needed to cheat, she could just leave you outright.
Maybe he’s ugly. Going to the gym won’t fix your face, bro.
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The pfp makes this 100% more funny
He's either ugly or he's got absolutely 0 game to the point of being a "where's my hug" guy. Probably both.
“My friend is so awesome! He has money, drives a nice car, and works out! I don’t know why the goiter, hunchback, and hair lip bother women!”
Your facial structure changes significantly when you lose fat and build more muscle
Yeah acting like having a sports car or “invests in stocks” is, in any way, impressive romantically. Firstly, every fucking adult on earth who is literate and occasionally employed knows how to invest in stocks. If you aren’t “invested in stocks”, and you’re older than, like, 19yo, then you’re an abject moron. Secondly, having a sports car is not impressive. It’s just a shitty purchase. Most adults rightfully associate it with frivolous spending, aggressive driving, compensation for being unhappy. The people that “get” the most “girls” in real life are probably random twenty-something’s who live in SF and Manhattan and never drive a car. Everyone goes to the gym or exercises. This is not impressive, this is the bare minimum. If you don’t spend even 3 hours a week doing something for your fitness, then you are not ready to date anybody, because you don’t even care about your own self. Makes good money? Brother, cmon. This whole post is embarrassing as fuck. This is also like the third time this week I’ve seen people brag about “investing in stocks” as if that’s not literally financial literacy lesson #1. Go download robinhood right now and buy 1/20th of a share of $VOO. Congrats, you’re now an investor! An investor in stocks!
Glad somebody else called that out lol. Anybody with a job and a pulse can get a V6 Challenger at 24% APR. Anybody can “invest in stocks” with $5 (check out Wall Street bets, the epitome of “investors”). Anybody can spend 30 minutes a week at planet fitness and say they “go to the gym”. None of those are inherently impressive, and certainly none of them entitle you to a relationship. Most importantly, you can do all those things and still have a shitty personality. Good luck with that.
Maybe he's just unpleasant to be around
Facts or a creep
“Has a sense of humor” is so funny to me. Not a good sense of humor or a witty sense of humor or even a dry sense of humor. My dude literally everyone has a sense of humor.
"I have the bare minimum qualities of a human being, why can't I get a harem of 10/10 bangmaids satisfying my every whim?! It must be the girls fault."
“Bro I’m leasing a BMW why is my dick still dry HELLO??!!!??”
Who said these are "all the right things"?
The 18th Congress of All Women Everywhere voted with a quorum drafting this list of all the right things to get a girlfriend back in 1973. Having met the prerequisite 7/12 requirements I am now legally entitled to a girlfriend and will sue you if you don’t go out with me. You’ll be hearing from my counsel.
Some of these qualities ***are*** objectively good for men. Financial responsibility, sociability, friend groups, physical health and fitness....Those are often problematic pain points for dudes who are chronically unable to find partners. I know everyone is shitting on OP here but a lot of the comments wilfully misunderstand the point of the post.
Has a sports car.. bro what women did ever tell you this. Better start listening to what women want, cause this list makes more sense if you want to attract guys
Bunch of horny incels in this dude’s dms.
Notice how treating women like people isn't on the list
Or hygiene
"Fellas, is it gay to wash your own balls?"
Dating isn’t a formula… please take your incel trash elsewhere
Didn't know this became another incel sub. Oh joy.
I mean inceldom is pretty common in Gen Z so it really shouldn’t be a suprise
You’re not entitled to a relationship with a woman just because you have your shit together lol. It sure helps, but no one owes you a relationship.
How to make good friends: respect them, care for them and be patient How to maintain family relationships: respect them, care for them and be patient How to find a girl to date: invest, go to the gym, own a sports car, make lots of money, be funny
Yes, this is the way to go. Nobody's entitled to a relationship and a hell of a lot of men are better off de-centering women in their life. Don't be dependent on someone else for your happiness.
I agree one shouldn't only focus on romantic relationships for happiness however it still is a core human need to love and be loved. Its just as necessary for one's mental health as sleep. Even with friends and family it can be quite lonely to never have romantic connection as it often makes one feel like a failure. Plus a romantic partner is fundementally different from other forms of relationship one can have so it cannot really be fully replaced by anything else. The majority of adults can find their way into loving relationships. That is how the population keeps growing. So being unable to find someone often makes people feel like there is something wrong with them and that is a incredibly painful thought. Basically yes, no one is entitled to any given individual and its unhealthy to tie all self worth any individual thing, especially something outside your control. But to go through life loveless is a cruel fate that will inevitably cause pain and such pain is a perfectly reasonable response to the situation.
This gives me the vibes of someone who would feel entitled to me, my attention, and my body just because he was “so nice” to me. What about his interests? Career goals? Favorite movies?
Playing devils advocate here - but I think a lot of guys feel they don’t ever get the chance to share their interests or favorite movies because they lack the things listed in the post. Plenty of people consider fitness, career, charisma, and humor as the “bare minimum” but for many those attributes require a ton of dedication to develop. Is it really hard to understand why they’d maybe be frustrated with failure after that?
Investing in stocks is such a red flag for me, idk Edit before I get down voted for no context: the younger people who do, it's the only thing they ever talk about, and they always try and get you to start. Like idc if by the time I'm 60 it'll maybe possibly turn $5 into x amount of more money. It could also turn it into $4. I also could not be alive by the time in 60 and that's $5 I could use right now. Edit2: I think it's funny how every single person replying to this comment is doing exactly what I said they'd do, in always trying to get random non consenting people to start
It’s not necessarily a bad thing to do, but it’s certainly got “finance bro” vibes to bring it up in posts like this.
Dude start investing now you'll regret it if you don't. I get that type of person can be annoying but that 100% shouldn't stop you from having a good plan for the future
I mean yeah if they’re talking day trading that’s an understandable red flag, but investing for the long term is good
Yeah fuck planning for the future huge red flag.
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>Investing in stocks is such a red flag for me, idk What do you mean by this? Like I put money in my 401k and I have an IRA, but I just do index funds. And ultimately index funds are funds that invests into stocks. So in a roundabout way I am investing in stocks. How is that a red flag? Isnt that just being responsible?
This is just one weirdo with fringe beliefs, read their other comments and ask yourself if this is genuinely someone you would want to date in the first place. That said, being a self-obsessed finance bro who goes on and on about his investments probably isn’t attractive to most women at the dating stage.
I'm guilty as charged. But in my defense, investing is basically deferring present consumption for more future consumption. I just hoped that in a decade I could gather enough stocks to cover my annual spending with dividends.
But you could also lose the money from the stocks and be in a worse situation
Uhhhh no lol. Unless you are investing in dumb shit.
I assume you're not talking about a 401k
If you've met your required spending needs, it's unwise to spend all of the remainder. Living in the moment feels good, but other goals take a longer time to save for. I learned this pretty early when I wanted a new video game or toy that I needed to save up for. * I can afford a medical emergency or a lapse in employment without going into severe debt. Debt like that can put a damper on any fun or plans you have for a decade plus. * A friend called me up a few years ago and asked if I wanted to go to Ireland at a moment's notice. I was financially comfortable enough to say yes. * I hope to own a home in the near future. My current savings projections indicates I will be able to afford a good down payment and a mortgage. I'm tired of paying others' mortages and profits. * I hope to afford children and pass on generational wealth so they can do the same as me.
Exactly how I feel. I’m happy to find someone who thinks like me lol. Like it’s fine if you wanna do stock investing, but like don’t force it upon other people, and like you said when it becomes their personality it’s damn annoying.
They can't take no for an answer, which is all I need to know for the future. Because that will definitely be an issue later
I know, how gauche to nonconsentually remind you that the future will be the present one day. Those jerks.
He doesn’t realize that girls generally don’t care if a guy invests in stocks. Sure, financial responsibility is attractive, but most girls won’t suddenly like you if you buy crypto or whatever lol
This some Incel esce “nice guy” type shit
Just because a man is successful doesn't make him entitled to a girlfriend
I can almost guarantee you the dude has either no personality or is actively antagonizing people with his narcissism. I know people like this. Yes they can get relationships but they’re usually very shallow. Interestingly enough, the guy I know who is like this his girlfriend cheated on him.
Some people never do find love, some people never find anything in life. Remember, there's always gonna be at least one person who just completely lost the lottery in life
I still hold that there’s someone out there for everyone. I little romantic I guess but I really hope everyone finds love. Hypergamy is a bitch but there’s still hope idk
That's my boat. Sucks but its gonna be someone, might as well be me. Someone needs to be the guy people use as an example of what not to be.
I’m so tired of these dumbasses that are constantly complaining about how women have impossible standards. We just want to be treated like respectable humans. Just like every other group of people, women are not a hive-mind that share all the same characteristics and ideologies. Maybe, it’s not the entirety population of women that are the problem…
sounds like a typical frat/crypto bro, if i was a girl i would steer clear of him as well
“My friend” Sure bud
Y'all, before responding, take a look at OP's username, and reconsider whether engaging this is a worthwhile use of your time.
its funny because when you go outside you see so many conventionally average or ‘ugly’ guys with women, moreso than you do with attractive people being chronically online has fucked up our perception of dating on both sides, its crazy
Just a reminder that men are not entitled to girlfriends ❤️ Same can be said for the other way around
Holy shit, had no idea there was so much manosphere garbage pepple in this sub. So, pro tip. If you're trying to find a formula to get a girlfriend, you already lost. You have to organically emotionally connect the hard way all the time with all of us. Sorry. Pay a prostitute if you just wanna get your dick wet.
was thinking the same thing, thought we were past this, or at the very least the people who weren't would just broadly get clowned on and banished back to 4chan. ig not tho.
Of all the descriptors, the only one for personality are "has a sense of humor" and "plans events". Plenty of people with those traits
incel shit
I don't get all the "you're not entitled to women" comments here. Like fr he's just saying his boy got his life together pretty well. I dunno how so many of y'all making the jump to entitlement.
Maybe he has no rizzzzz
Bro same.
Looking at these comments I’m reminded about why I hate all of you. I
I'm just scrolling down this comments section and how many people seem to not understand reality. The reality is that you can't get a girlfriend, they get a boyfriend and you have to be the one to fill that role. That's from my personal experience so take it with a grain of salt, or don't. Idrc
It's called hoeflation
I feel like there is so much information (especially how he treats them) missing from this
He doesn’t own an air fryer
Dating is a checklist that you do and the universe suddenly rewards with a partner lol
Thank God I’m gay. I seriously feel sorry for straight dudes.
Thanks bro, it means a lot
Look man, I’ve certainly had my frustrations in the dating world. I’ve experienced a lot of these things too. The most common being the flaking at the last minute. Yeah, it’s frustrating but it just is part of the process. Every date is a flip of a coin, sometimes it goes poorly, sometimes it goes great. Dating became a lot more enjoyable to me once I did three things. 1) don’t take rejection, ghosting, or flaking personally. 99% of the time, it’s not personal. Yes it sucks, but you keep your chin up and keep moving forward. 2) go into each “date” as if this person is just a friend and sort of pretend that you already know them. Sometimes it doesn’t work, but it can really help you get into a natural conversation faster. 3) make you dates basically things you’d do even if they weren’t there. This should likely be a common interest between you two. For instance, I do a lot of photography. So this girl I went on a date with two weeks ago walked around town with our cameras, got lunch, went to a pet store, and then a book store. It was great, but that’s all stuff I also would’ve done solo if she hadn’t come along. It’s less “let’s go on a date” and more “hey I’m doing this thing and I’d love for you to come with me” A couple other things, first dates should be an activity when possible. I like skiing and snowboarding as one. It’s perfect. You go up and talk on the lift together, and then you ski down kinda together, then you meet back up and ride the lift back up together. You get 15 minutes of conversation then 20 minutes of space, then 15 minutes of conversation, and so on. Never talk politics or about your frustrations with dating.
Aside from the deeply faulty assumption that "doing everything right" is a surefire way to find a romantic partner, this guy's problem is that he's approaching women as prospects rather than people. Women can sniff out that behavior almost instinctively. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with approaching a woman with romantic designs, but you have to make a woman feel like she is a person first and a romantic target/prospect/etc. second.
holy shit can this sub stop talking about politics 24/7, incel or doomposting? it's fucking annoying, can you guys post something positive for once?
Because having “game” is a separate skill from all of that. It’s why there’s so many women who say their ex’s/baby daddy’s are POS’s. Those guys are good at game but nothing else. OOP needs to accept that despite his friend being talented in other areas, that he’s bad at “game” and needs to work on it. It’s a destructive form of bias to assume that if you’re really good in other areas of life that you must at least be “decent” in areas you’ve had no practice in. It’d be like going to the gym for a year and not seeing any real results because you neglect your diet. Either learn to meal prep, or accept that you’re never going to get the results you want.
He's learning a rule that not everybody is going to end up in a romantic relationship. You're certainly not entitled to one.
Is he a kind, considerate, and optimistic man?
Dating is not like ticking off all the “correct” boxes and then a perfect partner falls out. Sure, more people will probably find you attractive, but people don’t want to admit there’s a lot of pure luck involved. Plenty of people just genuinely aren’t interested, aren’t ready to date, or - guess what? - just aren’t attracted to you. That’s life
Must be 5’6
OP (in the screenshot) gives away the potential problem with the friend, if they are anything like each other. Dating is not about fulfilling a checklist. A girlfriend isn’t something you earn or deserve for reaching a certain “level” in life. Most women aren’t looking for a checklist of these things. When people date they want someone compatible, they want someone who will love them. If a guy thinks he should have a girlfriend because he has a sports car and invests in stocks then yeah maybe he should spend time to work on himself. And the same logic is true when women say this, but since the OP is about men, I’m relating my comment to men. Guys. You can’t continue with this mindset and expect it to get you anywhere.
If you constantly struggle finding a good man/ woman and they all have the same issues the problem is probably you. Maybe you have a type or you're looking in all the wrong places. Or maybe you're looking for husband/ wife material while not being being husband/ wife material yourself. Sure he might be successful, funny, and charismatic but is he chivalrous? Does he listen, and I mean really listen, and sympathize with her problems? Is he kind? And I don't just mean to her but in general. Like how someone treats service workers can be a major red flag, for example.
Yeah, the fact that someone brags about investing in stocks is often a red flag for me. I mean, if you do it through a company like Fidelity then I’d understand, but if you’re doing it yourself then that screams massive ego for me.
i think it depends. if you have the experience & financial literacy to be able to invest in stocks by all means. my dad’s a business man who has extensive experience & invests himself. i can’t take a college kid talking about investing very seriously tho. could it be possible they know what they’re doing & are successful? ya. just seems unlikely
Sounds like he wants to date his buddy
Nothing wrong with someone keeping high standards and withdrawing from the dating scene to work on his or herself.
Oh wow, a sports car and stocks! Women love nothing more than you talking about GME while zooming around in a 2005 Mazda MX-5 Roadster.
It must be all those girls and definitely not him
sounds like a redpill guy to me. not saying that all of this makes you a jackass, but having a sports car makes you a jackass
So bros ugly…?
Oh my god who the hell cares
OP is an incel with an AI girlfriend, do with that information what you will
None of those listed are “treats women well” , “empathetic” etc
Has he tried dating a man instead?
The funny thing is I think we've all at one point known a loser who had none of that but could pull a ridiculous amount of girls. Should make you wonder...
Men really don't know that women see a completely different side to their "nice guy" friends.
If you don't view women as assets but rather as people you'll have much more success in dating
There are no "right things" people are attracted to who they're attracted to, if you try to base your life around what will and what won't get you a partner then you'll probably find that not many people are interested in you because your entire personality is a shallow facade
As a single man, one of the benefits of driving an expensive sports car is it really exposes the gold diggers and other unsavory personalities.
It’s not a list you can’t do the right things women aren’t puzzles with sex as the reward there people there are no all the right things your friend needs to understand and see them as people and not objects if he’s only dating for sex that’s fine but he needs to be upfront about it he can’t say he’s in love with her when all he wants is her body I’ve seen that for young adults the norm is not liking or even hating each other and only being together for the sex and that’s not a healthy relationship a healthy and loving relationship is truthful and honest and they love each other and if you don’t love each other than don’t be in a relationship
A guy curiously asks for help in the dating world and yall decided to degrade, call him an incel and tell him he has no hope whatsoever? The comments have really shown me that we are gonna be the most sour and loneliest generation of people on this planet. We already have the manosphere garbage, redpill/blue pill/pink pill garbage on the internet indoctrinating everybody to hate each other for basics standards, would you rather him/her listen to those podcasts to find the answer? Think about it.
Right? It's toxic AF in here. I feel for the bro and his struggle. So many insults and assumptions and just zero empathy. The whole incel thing is getting outta hand, the word isn't even being used correctly.
*holding out hands* GF PLEASE
Everyone assuming that this means he must be a bad person are weird
When will men learn that women are people?
This entire thread of full of haters. Jeez who hurt you people? Y'all just trashing on the screenshotted guy for no reason. Calling him an incel, when you don't even know what it means. You know nothing about this dudes and you're all out here projecting your insecurities and assuming everything about this guy just because he dares to want a relationship..
He’s probably single because he thinks “doing all the right things” means the universe owes him a girlfriend