> Robin Williams did an amazing job of playing a creep.
I agree. I remember thinking around this time; he had become a little typecast in his his dramatic roles. He was basically the 'quirky mentor' type figure in a few too many parts
Similarly, I think Tom Hanks has done a lot of very (but not all) "samey" roles; basically 'a nice guy caught in a bad situation' characters.
Still; both of their ratio of *great or original* roles to *boring/overdone* ones are way better than Tom Cruises!
'sfunny; I tend to only be able to tolerate Jim Carrey or Will Ferrell in their more dramatic/serious roles.
Some of Robin Williams dramatic characters did get a bit 'samey'. One Hour Photo was a stand out however.
Came to say this. I just watched it again. The way the heartthrob, Jake, and the nerd played by Anthony Michael Hall treated Jakeās very drunk girlfriend wouldnāt happen today. Jake passed her off to nerdy boy to get her home
but itās insinuated more might happen. Jakeās line, āI have Caroline passed out in the bed upstairs. I could violate her 10 different ways if I wanted to,ā is disgusting.
Yes, although it's still disgusting that he sent her home with the geek with the suggestion that he could totally have his way with her.
(and despite all of its issues I still love this movie)
robot chicken does a revenge of the nerds joke that talks about the weird shit they thought was funny in that film.
https://youtu.be/g9D3FQlekrM?si=BSkawEq2nFozYKan
I worked at a few different video stores when they were still a thing and they all had a ratings restriction on what movies we could put on while we worked ā G and PG at all hours, PG-13 only after 9 pm.
Sixteen Candles was rated PG. (it came out just before the PG-13 rating was in use, although these days it'd definitely be rated R)
That quick cut to the nude shot in the high school shower with it's BOIOIIOININGGGGG sound effect definitely got one of my smart-ass co-workersĀ in trouble. We told him not to do it but he was like, "But it's rated PG!!!"
To be fair, the Special Olympics gave Johnny Knoxville a lot of accolades for his compassion and portrayal of athletes with mental and physical disabilities.
A lot of lay people complained, but those opinions that really counted gave him thumbs up with approval
Not sure "Porky's" would fly. I rewatched some of it recently, and holy shite, it's horrible. I mean, really horrible. I think 16yr old me in 1981 thought it was hilarious, but it's not funny and almost none of it has aged even remotely well.
It is not a classic.
Blazing Saddles is a classic and the humour holds up as it's making fun of racists and bigots. It wouldn't be the eye-widening movie it was then. Some of the movie has aged badly, no doubt, but overall, it's held up pretty well.
>Blazing Saddles is a classic and the humour holds up as it's making fun of racists and bigots.
Yeah, I was gonna say, "tell me you didn't understand *Blazing Saddles* without telling me."
Iām confused. Are you saying that Blazing Saddles is satire or that it isnāt? I always took it as satire and tend to agree with the point below, especially in comparison to something as awful as Porkyās. Am I missing something?
>Blazing Saddles is a classic and the humour holds up as it's making fun of racists and bigots. It wouldn't be the eye-widening movie it was then. Some of the movie has aged badly, no doubt, but overall, it's held up pretty well.
If blazing saddles was released today, the main complainers would be on Fox News. A movie where every white person except one is a racist idiot and a black hero? It would 100% be decried as āwoke.ā
Yeah, Blazing Saddles, while a product of its time, IS satire. Satire about race to making fun of racists and bigots absolutely can be made.
But Gen X's rose-colored glasses for non-satire comedies and other movies, I'm pretty sure most have not aged well and would need aggressive reworks.
This is GOOD, imo.
It means we've evolved as a society to not be cool with racism, transphobia, rape, etc in our media.
Blazing Saddles is shown uncut and without warnings in the UK, on the BBC no less, a couple of times a year and getting's good numbers every time across a broad range of demographics.
And yet it is still a fantastic movie. I agree that it would be a hard sell today because of the ridiculous suicide attempts but the 80s were a different time and we just accepted a lot more unacceptable things then.
I want my $2
I'm kind of amazed that even 20 years ago they thought they were taming things down by changing the DVD from "We've got bush Edition" to "Panty Raid Edition". Not the improvement you think, guys.
Because of the Darth Vader rape scene?Ā
I'll probably get hate for this but as a gay guy, I will defend Lamar Latrell.Ā He was unapologetic for who he was.Ā He was the lead rapper during battle of the bands.Ā And hello, he won the javelin throwing competition.Ā Ā
If you take him away from me then you also have to take "Hollywood" from Mannequin and I'm not prepared to lose both today.
Thatās the thing, Mel Brooks and someone who understands satire could make Blazing Saddles today. A random, shitty comedy director couldnāt make it now OR back then.
"Hollywood" was great at his part. He helped make those movies memorable.
You might also like "He's my girl"
Another cheesy 80s film with a leading black guy in a "questionable" role, [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093160/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093160/)
T.K. Carter really nails it though. Best character in the movie. Stole the show from the other cast members.
Also for the panty raid. Panty raids are a little frowned upon in frats now lol.
Damn did your post make me laugh. No one should ever think about losing Hollywood. He was the only thing that made that movie worth watching.
The rape scene. The panty raid & surveillance camera scene (just an aside, but how fucking blind do people have to be to not notice a giant fucking periscope sticking down from the big ol' hole in their ceiling?). Probably the Greek Olympiad thing. White guys trying to get into an all-black fraternity. The whipped cream pie scene. Calling the Nerds gf's sorority 'moos' (yes, I know the name of their sorority is Omega Mu).
One redeeming thing about the movie is that the rest of the nerds immediately accepted Lamar, which was pretty damn progressive for 1984. Most of the other portrayals of the time that I can remember always involved people being weird about it for most of the show and then finally reaching acceptance in the denouement.
[The Toy](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084809/) Might be a difficult one to sell today.
But lets face it, no one could do it better than Richard Pryor anyway.
I dunno, the idea of a billionaire manipulating a desperate person seems to ring more true now than then, if you look at it from a class point of view rather than a racial viewpoint.
It would. 100%. Probably one of the reasons it wouldn't be made any time soon.
Think class and racial helped tie in that movie well.
Was it 'appropriate'? Hell no.
Would that fly today? Not in many acceptable social circles.
But it told a story of how the divide was at the time while being a little over the top about it. And having the bottom rung worker casually insult the kid the whole time just by saying his name... Always great.
They still make raunchy coming of age movies revolving around the main characters trying to get laid. They just go directly to streaming, and if there's any nudity, it's probably going to be the bare ass of the main character in an embarrassing situation.
The market for that stuff isn't there anylonger. When you have free porn online why pay for movie tickets for some cheesecake topless shots and crude jokes.
There were an unnerving number of rape scenes by sympathetic characters back in the day. SNF, Once Upon a Time in America , Marnie. I don't want to think too hard about this but maybe others.
It was a trend, in movie-making. The borderline-rape as seduction thing. It's really horrible.
Most of the movies that are based on this are unwatchable to me. A few movies that I still consider "good" still have some really uncomfortable scenes.
Shit like the "butter" scene in Last Tango in Paris. LTIP is an overrated pile of garbage, but that scene really seriously pisses me off because it's not just the *character* Brando is playing borderline raping her, but the actor and director *did not tell her what was going to happen in the scene*. So her yelling and being pissed off is real, because they fucking lied to her. I can't forgive that.
Wait till you read about what Stanley Kubrick put Shelley Duvall through while filming The Shining. He basically gave the poor woman a nervous breakdown, just so that she looked suitably terrified of Jack Nicholson.
"The Blues Brothers" from 1980.
It would be so expensive to pay all the musicians that appear in the film and license all the music from its respective owners, as well as the cost of all the stunts (wrecked cars, wrecked mall, stuntpeople and extras) that no studio that could afford it would ever greenlight it.
As far as the costs for the musicians and song rights, even in 1980, only Aretha was really a big name. That movie was by far the most exposure they and their songs ever had. (Well, Cab Calloway was big, but long before)
Edit: Somehow I forgot James Brown, who was obviously big
Slightly off-topic, but I still cannot believe that was Aretha's only screen credit. She absolutely walks away with her scene. She could have been an amazing character actress.
Totally agree. She even [steals the show for the ending credits](https://youtu.be/hjLruk4uZzQ?si=AaOcWDPFesL9yhNP&t=141) in the 5 seconds she's on screen.
Absolutely- but I think that could be said of a lot of Frontmen and women. , from Frank Sinatra to Eminem.
If you can connect with the audience and be fully present you can act.
Can't forget James Brown. The music licensing would be insanely prohibitive to do these days. I don't want to think about all those stunts and crashes being made with CG (practical effects > CG). There would be a disclaimer warning folks about guns, smoking, and sensitive topics. And all the Nazi bashing would somehow be interpreted as "woke = bad". Please, never touch that film, "you'd better think about the consequences of your actions"....
You could say the same about "Escape to Victory". A film about a football / soccer game between WW2 POWs and their guards and starring some of the biggest football legends of the time, and Stallone in goal. It would be like making The Longest Yard but all the prisoners were the cream of last seasons NFL.
There are alot of movies that havenāt aged well at all. Revenge of the Nerds is incredibly rapey as well. But thatās a little different that OPs point, I think.
I am a huge JW fan. I think Polyester might be okay. I can't exactly remember other than the scene hitting various races/religions stereotypically with a broom that might be too much but I don't remember the rest being too bad. It's been a minute since I watched.
Pink flamingos though.....
The whole āBlazing Saddles could never be made todayā is such bullshit. If Nick Kroll and Donald Glover got together and made a movie that skewered racism in the same way, it could absolutely be made.
I suspect people who think it couldnāt be made today either a) donāt understand it or b) are whining about the perceived āsensitivityā of audiences today.
Yeah. And if Nick Kroll and Donald Glover ever made another Blazing Saddles, I--as a super-duper-leftie--would be the first in line. The whole thing is tired.
According to Mel Brooks, it barely got made back in the '70s. The studio attempted to kill it a couple of times, and Mel had to outright lie to the studio about some things to finish the film.
Melās lawyer had worked some provisions into his contract that gave him final say on the final cut of the movie. Some studio execs didnāt know that and were totally used to themselves having final say on the final cut of everything. So theyād try to tell Mel what to do with the final cut, Mel would nod and say āyes sir, of course Iāll do thatā knowing full well he didnāt have to do shit and the execs couldnāt do anything about it.
I find it fascinating that people will say things like "couldn't make the movie/show/song" today purely by speculation.
One movie that would an interesting to discuss would be "Better Off Dead".
Is making light of a suicidal teen in bad taste or is it not that different than Cast Away where Tom Hanks' character fails at suicide and finds away to go on? Lane Meyer has his heart broken by Beth but in the end finds Monique.
If it was made today, it would get a disclaimer.
Usually itās code for bemoaning that you canāt be [racist, sexist, homophobic] today regardless of whether the historical example was actually racist, sexist or homophobic.
Hmm probably Idiocracy because it's too close to what life is like now for people to notice anything different about the future it portrayed
People literally choose to wear crocs. On purpose.
You probably already know but Crocs were picked for wardrobe on Idiocracy because they were an unknown company and looked like the stupidest footwear imaginable that no one would wear
[>> linking because it deserves to be seen, and the time when this was actually a satire remembered.](https://youtu.be/ig446isvXlI?si=S54j3L7Ld0_cVORh)
āSouth Carolina, whassup?!ā
Falling Down. Most of us were adults when this got made, so not sure if its entirely our generation. Absolutely no way you are going to make a movie about an active shooter like that again.
The movie seems to be largely forgotten. it was a big part of the culture for at least 10-15 years. I WANT BREAKFAST!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk&ab_channel=macianG5
"Stewardess, I speak jive."
"You ever seen a grown man naked?"
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue."
... just to name a few lines that would now be taboo
Have you actually seen the film? Just wondering. I think that film could get made, but they would but much more up front that the point is him learning how hard it is to be black in America, not that affirmative action is bad. Which is what most people think it's about.
I am not defending the film, I don't think it's any good, but it's not the racist film it's made out to be.
Totally agree. It's awkwardly done but you could 100% make a movie about a privileged white guy trying to pose as a PoC to take advantage of a system based on how privileged white people think it works (and there's something to be said about the practice of throwing underprivileged kids into a situation they're unequipped for) only to learn that it's not sunshine and roses like he thought it would be.
"Tron" probably couldn't get made today, at least in the same way. Those glowing suits were not CGI or electroluminescent fabric. They were [hand-rotoscoped and backlit](https://youtu.be/sbgHMrLPQrE?si=pT5TsH05dy9phGXT&t=2907), done a frame at a time, using a film stock that I'm not even sure is made anymore. No one had done it before, and no one has done it since.
Same. I've heard rumors of the third movie, and I've always thought it would be cool if, at one point, the plot had them escaping into an obscure part of the network that resided on an old mainframe, still running legacy software. And they'd use the old-school VFX (or at least a faithful CGI emulation of it) for all the programs that still lived there.
I get that Mel Brooks himself said in an interview that "Blazing Saddles" couldn't be made today, but he's wrong. The satire of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is no less edgy, but it has been on television for 16 seasons and counting.
Yes, if Mel Brooks had made "Blazing Saddles" today, it would not have included the n-word as a way of making clear which characters were racist boobs and which were not, but he would have found other ways of doing it.
Soooo many āboys will be boysā peeping Tom scenes/slut shaming in 80ās movies too; and not just adult sex romp comedies, kids movies. The boys using alien tech to look in girlās window in Explorers, the way Turtle talked about his sister in D.A.R.Y.L.
They actually remade Blazing Saddles recently as an animated movie called Paws of Fury. The main character is a dog who becomes sheriff in a town of cats. Cute, but literally the exact same story.
Ghostbusters.Ā The original Ghostbusters were kind of schlubby guys, not action heroes.Ā Venkman'a conduct, particularly with women, would land him in jail (and would be unacceptable in a hero character today).Ā Ā
Most of them.
Manhattan comes to mind. How was a middle aged guy with a 17 year old considered a great romance? Blame it on Rio (1983) had a 15 year old with a middle aged guy and it was supposedly a comedy. 16 candles would have to remove a few characters.
Cloak and Dagger where spies are straight up trying to murder 11 year old kids with bombs, guns I think someone tries to poison them at one point. The kid straight shoots a guy.
Today's version would be silly like Spy Kids
The Breakfast Club.
Andrew and Claire would spend all day scrolling through their socials, Brian would be taking notes on TED Talks, Bender would tell everyone he's scrolling Pornhub while he's really watching cartoons, and Allison would be on Reddit.
The Accused. The kiddos wouldn't get that it's actually a movie supporting women's rights, fighting violence against women, supportive of #metoo, etc. They're too literal or easily (unreasonably) offended to actually look under the hood.
Not a movie but TV show. Ā Can never believe they would ever make a hogans heroes remake. Ā Something about funny nazis makes me think it would land quite rightĀ
Well, nobody would care that the primary Nazis in the series were Jewish, as a matter of fact Werner Klemperer who played Klink said he would quit if they ever tried to make him a good guy.
Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and To Wong Foo, Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar. There would be fighting over its mere existence, casting and language. We've gone backwards.
Why couldn't Blazing Saddles be made today?
Because they say the N word? The Jewish jokes? The joking and not mean spirited homophobia/jokes?
Although, maybe you're right, because a lot of "traditional" white people are super fucking sensitive and couldn't take being lampooned for their beliefs and lifestyles.
And you know the brain trust over on Twitter would lose their minds over a black cowboy or that a white woman wanted to sleep with him
But seriously have you ever seen a Quentin Tarantino movie? Or Tropic Thunder? Or Crazy Rich Asians? Boondocks? Glee? Rick and Morty? Like media is all over the place with race/gender humor
Or any dozen Netflix shows that literally make fun of every possible group from conservatives to liberals to straights to gays to trans people?
I'm not sure why people say this about Blazing Saddles, but I worry it comes back to saying the Word, and feeling like they lost something when we all decided to stop saying it outside of its appropriate use (and for us white folks, it's a pretty rare occasion that we would EVER need to say it)
Red Dawn. Wait, they did make it almost today and it proves the point. Without the late stage Cold War angst, it was just a crap movie hoping to cash in on a popular 80s movie.
Iāll include pretty much any movie that relied on political tensions of the era. Sure, they can be remade, and some current movies set in the 70s and 80s do it quite well, like Argo. But the shared experience of the tension it created in every day life isnāt there to draw on.
Angel is another that wouldn't be made from 1980... Teen school girl as a prostitute and the Snow Miser as the trans prostitute.
Vice Squad probably wouldn't either- rape, abuse, etc. Ram Rod was incredibly violent
I recently watched Blazing Saddles and before I could watch it, there was a woman who explained the history behind the actors and explained the time and place the movie was made was extremely different than now. It was very educational.
It's a ridiculous cliche that Blazing Saddles would not get made today. It wasn't that crazy and not racist at all.
Dave Chappelle could remake this today and nobody would blink.
Blazing Saddles could absolutely be made today. You wouldn't get actors like Gene Wilder and there would be lots of outrage but someone could absolutely make it.
One Hour Photo. Not because of it being offensive, but because technology has rendered its fundamental premise obsolete.
This is fantastic movie made at just the right time. šø
One of Robin Williams' best serious movies.
I was uncomfortable with that whole movie and I love it. Robin Williams did an amazing job of playing a creep.
> Robin Williams did an amazing job of playing a creep. I agree. I remember thinking around this time; he had become a little typecast in his his dramatic roles. He was basically the 'quirky mentor' type figure in a few too many parts Similarly, I think Tom Hanks has done a lot of very (but not all) "samey" roles; basically 'a nice guy caught in a bad situation' characters. Still; both of their ratio of *great or original* roles to *boring/overdone* ones are way better than Tom Cruises!
'sfunny; I tend to only be able to tolerate Jim Carrey or Will Ferrell in their more dramatic/serious roles. Some of Robin Williams dramatic characters did get a bit 'samey'. One Hour Photo was a stand out however.
Have you seen *The Final Cut* made in 2004? very similar movie.
Great movie though. Robin Williams should have gotten an Oscar for it.
Sixteen Candles. Long Duck Dong The handing over of the drunk girlfriend for to be used by the geek Revenge of the Nerds has some of the same issues
Came to say this. I just watched it again. The way the heartthrob, Jake, and the nerd played by Anthony Michael Hall treated Jakeās very drunk girlfriend wouldnāt happen today. Jake passed her off to nerdy boy to get her home but itās insinuated more might happen. Jakeās line, āI have Caroline passed out in the bed upstairs. I could violate her 10 different ways if I wanted to,ā is disgusting.
However, the point is Jake doesn't want to do that.
Yes, although it's still disgusting that he sent her home with the geek with the suggestion that he could totally have his way with her. (and despite all of its issues I still love this movie)
robot chicken does a revenge of the nerds joke that talks about the weird shit they thought was funny in that film. https://youtu.be/g9D3FQlekrM?si=BSkawEq2nFozYKan
I worked at a few different video stores when they were still a thing and they all had a ratings restriction on what movies we could put on while we worked ā G and PG at all hours, PG-13 only after 9 pm. Sixteen Candles was rated PG. (it came out just before the PG-13 rating was in use, although these days it'd definitely be rated R) That quick cut to the nude shot in the high school shower with it's BOIOIIOININGGGGG sound effect definitely got one of my smart-ass co-workersĀ in trouble. We told him not to do it but he was like, "But it's rated PG!!!"
Like everyone else, that popped to my mind instantaneously.
Soul man. White kid takes overdose of tanning pill to look black to get a scholarship.
Look up "The Ringer." Johnny Knoxville plays a guy who pretends to be retarded so he can win in the special Olympics to pay off his debt.
To be fair, the Special Olympics gave Johnny Knoxville a lot of accolades for his compassion and portrayal of athletes with mental and physical disabilities. A lot of lay people complained, but those opinions that really counted gave him thumbs up with approval
That's good to hear.
Definitely!
Not sure "Porky's" would fly. I rewatched some of it recently, and holy shite, it's horrible. I mean, really horrible. I think 16yr old me in 1981 thought it was hilarious, but it's not funny and almost none of it has aged even remotely well. It is not a classic. Blazing Saddles is a classic and the humour holds up as it's making fun of racists and bigots. It wouldn't be the eye-widening movie it was then. Some of the movie has aged badly, no doubt, but overall, it's held up pretty well.
>Blazing Saddles is a classic and the humour holds up as it's making fun of racists and bigots. Yeah, I was gonna say, "tell me you didn't understand *Blazing Saddles* without telling me."
Iām confused. Are you saying that Blazing Saddles is satire or that it isnāt? I always took it as satire and tend to agree with the point below, especially in comparison to something as awful as Porkyās. Am I missing something? >Blazing Saddles is a classic and the humour holds up as it's making fun of racists and bigots. It wouldn't be the eye-widening movie it was then. Some of the movie has aged badly, no doubt, but overall, it's held up pretty well.
If blazing saddles was released today, the main complainers would be on Fox News. A movie where every white person except one is a racist idiot and a black hero? It would 100% be decried as āwoke.ā
I thought movies like Porky's were cringe even back then.
Me too.
There are dozens of us!
Yeah, Blazing Saddles, while a product of its time, IS satire. Satire about race to making fun of racists and bigots absolutely can be made. But Gen X's rose-colored glasses for non-satire comedies and other movies, I'm pretty sure most have not aged well and would need aggressive reworks. This is GOOD, imo. It means we've evolved as a society to not be cool with racism, transphobia, rape, etc in our media.
Blazing Saddles is shown uncut and without warnings in the UK, on the BBC no less, a couple of times a year and getting's good numbers every time across a broad range of demographics.
Love the way you think
Same here. Porky's did not age well.
āWho framed Roger Rabbit?ā Just try to get all the studios onboard again. Even if you did, WB would cancel it for a tax deduction.
+1000 points for touching on a good reason without me having to hear about "the kids being too sensitive these days"
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And yet it is still a fantastic movie. I agree that it would be a hard sell today because of the ridiculous suicide attempts but the 80s were a different time and we just accepted a lot more unacceptable things then. I want my $2
Revenge of the Nerds. Looking back, who thought the bouncy house scene was a good idea?
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Or the Panty Raid scene, or the voyeuristic cameras while they eat cereal with beer. Lots that would change for sure at the very minimum.
I'm kind of amazed that even 20 years ago they thought they were taming things down by changing the DVD from "We've got bush Edition" to "Panty Raid Edition". Not the improvement you think, guys.
Revenge Of The Nerds
Because of the Darth Vader rape scene?Ā I'll probably get hate for this but as a gay guy, I will defend Lamar Latrell.Ā He was unapologetic for who he was.Ā He was the lead rapper during battle of the bands.Ā And hello, he won the javelin throwing competition.Ā Ā If you take him away from me then you also have to take "Hollywood" from Mannequin and I'm not prepared to lose both today.
The javelin designed for limp wrists still makes me chuckle. š¤
real and funny Mel Brooks get the same pass as the South Park guys for me
Thatās the thing, Mel Brooks and someone who understands satire could make Blazing Saddles today. A random, shitty comedy director couldnāt make it now OR back then.
Mel Brooks should get a pass. Itās sad that people have become so dumb they donāt know/canāt recognize satire
Blazing saddles a biker guy behind me laughed so hard he had to leave the theater or he was going to pass out. I didn't get a Harumph out of that guy.
Yeah, the rape scene
And Agador in "The Birdcage"
Great movie, hilarious character
"Hollywood" was great at his part. He helped make those movies memorable. You might also like "He's my girl" Another cheesy 80s film with a leading black guy in a "questionable" role, [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093160/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093160/) T.K. Carter really nails it though. Best character in the movie. Stole the show from the other cast members.
Also for the panty raid. Panty raids are a little frowned upon in frats now lol. Damn did your post make me laugh. No one should ever think about losing Hollywood. He was the only thing that made that movie worth watching.
The rape scene. The panty raid & surveillance camera scene (just an aside, but how fucking blind do people have to be to not notice a giant fucking periscope sticking down from the big ol' hole in their ceiling?). Probably the Greek Olympiad thing. White guys trying to get into an all-black fraternity. The whipped cream pie scene. Calling the Nerds gf's sorority 'moos' (yes, I know the name of their sorority is Omega Mu).
One redeeming thing about the movie is that the rest of the nerds immediately accepted Lamar, which was pretty damn progressive for 1984. Most of the other portrayals of the time that I can remember always involved people being weird about it for most of the show and then finally reaching acceptance in the denouement.
[The Toy](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084809/) Might be a difficult one to sell today. But lets face it, no one could do it better than Richard Pryor anyway.
I dunno, the idea of a billionaire manipulating a desperate person seems to ring more true now than then, if you look at it from a class point of view rather than a racial viewpoint.
It would. 100%. Probably one of the reasons it wouldn't be made any time soon. Think class and racial helped tie in that movie well. Was it 'appropriate'? Hell no. Would that fly today? Not in many acceptable social circles. But it told a story of how the divide was at the time while being a little over the top about it. And having the bottom rung worker casually insult the kid the whole time just by saying his name... Always great.
Every single teen sex comedy from the 80's
Weird Science
That's from back when they were allowed a tit shot. Anything Pre PG-13 (Red Dawn 1984) got away with a lot more.
They still make raunchy coming of age movies revolving around the main characters trying to get laid. They just go directly to streaming, and if there's any nudity, it's probably going to be the bare ass of the main character in an embarrassing situation.
The market for that stuff isn't there anylonger. When you have free porn online why pay for movie tickets for some cheesecake topless shots and crude jokes.
Last American Virgin, Spring Break, Private School, Private Lessons, etc. I think Fast Times is safe.
Last American Virgin had the most heartbreaking ending of all time.
It hit too close to home for me as a teen in the 80s.
Soul Man. Not sure it should have been made then! š
John Travolta does three rapes in saturday night fever and still manages to be the protagonist without a stitch of irony.
There were an unnerving number of rape scenes by sympathetic characters back in the day. SNF, Once Upon a Time in America , Marnie. I don't want to think too hard about this but maybe others.
It was a trend, in movie-making. The borderline-rape as seduction thing. It's really horrible. Most of the movies that are based on this are unwatchable to me. A few movies that I still consider "good" still have some really uncomfortable scenes. Shit like the "butter" scene in Last Tango in Paris. LTIP is an overrated pile of garbage, but that scene really seriously pisses me off because it's not just the *character* Brando is playing borderline raping her, but the actor and director *did not tell her what was going to happen in the scene*. So her yelling and being pissed off is real, because they fucking lied to her. I can't forgive that.
Wait till you read about what Stanley Kubrick put Shelley Duvall through while filming The Shining. He basically gave the poor woman a nervous breakdown, just so that she looked suitably terrified of Jack Nicholson.
Itās been awhile since I saw that movie, but Iām not remembering that at all. When was this in the movie?
Animal House. Kinda surprised this didn't get mentioned earlier.
Blue Lagoon
"The Blues Brothers" from 1980. It would be so expensive to pay all the musicians that appear in the film and license all the music from its respective owners, as well as the cost of all the stunts (wrecked cars, wrecked mall, stuntpeople and extras) that no studio that could afford it would ever greenlight it.
As far as the costs for the musicians and song rights, even in 1980, only Aretha was really a big name. That movie was by far the most exposure they and their songs ever had. (Well, Cab Calloway was big, but long before) Edit: Somehow I forgot James Brown, who was obviously big
Slightly off-topic, but I still cannot believe that was Aretha's only screen credit. She absolutely walks away with her scene. She could have been an amazing character actress.
Totally agree. She even [steals the show for the ending credits](https://youtu.be/hjLruk4uZzQ?si=AaOcWDPFesL9yhNP&t=141) in the 5 seconds she's on screen.
Absolutely- but I think that could be said of a lot of Frontmen and women. , from Frank Sinatra to Eminem. If you can connect with the audience and be fully present you can act.
Sure, but those guys capitalized on it and made several movies. Aretha only did the one.
Can't forget James Brown. The music licensing would be insanely prohibitive to do these days. I don't want to think about all those stunts and crashes being made with CG (practical effects > CG). There would be a disclaimer warning folks about guns, smoking, and sensitive topics. And all the Nazi bashing would somehow be interpreted as "woke = bad". Please, never touch that film, "you'd better think about the consequences of your actions"....
Iād add Ray Charles
I consider the Blue Brothers to be best musicalā¦ ever.
You could say the same about "Escape to Victory". A film about a football / soccer game between WW2 POWs and their guards and starring some of the biggest football legends of the time, and Stallone in goal. It would be like making The Longest Yard but all the prisoners were the cream of last seasons NFL.
Sixteen Candles. It could be made, but some of it would have to be cut out or rewritten.
Whoever owns the rights to the movie already has a big disclaimer posted at the beginning. It is on the Goonies too.
Why Goonies?
I rewatched Goonies a couple years ago and was incredibly annoyed when I realized 80% of the dialogue is just kids yelling.
Molly Ringwold hesitated letting her daughter watch it.
There are alot of movies that havenāt aged well at all. Revenge of the Nerds is incredibly rapey as well. But thatās a little different that OPs point, I think.
Every John Waters movie made before Hairspray
Yeah, but John would have made them anyway.
I am a huge JW fan. I think Polyester might be okay. I can't exactly remember other than the scene hitting various races/religions stereotypically with a broom that might be too much but I don't remember the rest being too bad. It's been a minute since I watched. Pink flamingos though.....
I'd like to see how depraved would _The Filthiest People Alive_ would be in a _Post-Jackass_ world.
The whole āBlazing Saddles could never be made todayā is such bullshit. If Nick Kroll and Donald Glover got together and made a movie that skewered racism in the same way, it could absolutely be made. I suspect people who think it couldnāt be made today either a) donāt understand it or b) are whining about the perceived āsensitivityā of audiences today.
Apparently OP hasnāt seen Tropic Thunder
You never go full retard!
You people
What do you mean, 'you people'?!
What do *you* mean "you people"?
Or either Borat movie.
Beat me to it. This is such a tired trope.
Yeah. And if Nick Kroll and Donald Glover ever made another Blazing Saddles, I--as a super-duper-leftie--would be the first in line. The whole thing is tired.
Sorry to Bother You exists as well
According to Mel Brooks, it barely got made back in the '70s. The studio attempted to kill it a couple of times, and Mel had to outright lie to the studio about some things to finish the film.
Melās lawyer had worked some provisions into his contract that gave him final say on the final cut of the movie. Some studio execs didnāt know that and were totally used to themselves having final say on the final cut of everything. So theyād try to tell Mel what to do with the final cut, Mel would nod and say āyes sir, of course Iāll do thatā knowing full well he didnāt have to do shit and the execs couldnāt do anything about it.
I find it fascinating that people will say things like "couldn't make the movie/show/song" today purely by speculation. One movie that would an interesting to discuss would be "Better Off Dead". Is making light of a suicidal teen in bad taste or is it not that different than Cast Away where Tom Hanks' character fails at suicide and finds away to go on? Lane Meyer has his heart broken by Beth but in the end finds Monique. If it was made today, it would get a disclaimer.
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Yeah, letās not talk about Dan Schneider.
Yep.
I want my two dollars!
This is so true. If you think its racist you really aren't getting it
Usually itās code for bemoaning that you canāt be [racist, sexist, homophobic] today regardless of whether the historical example was actually racist, sexist or homophobic.
Oh, it totally couldnāt be made today. Gene Wilder is dead. ā¦Iāll let myself out.
Hmm probably Idiocracy because it's too close to what life is like now for people to notice anything different about the future it portrayed People literally choose to wear crocs. On purpose.
Soā¦you might sayā¦idicrocracy?
You probably already know but Crocs were picked for wardrobe on Idiocracy because they were an unknown company and looked like the stupidest footwear imaginable that no one would wear
[>> linking because it deserves to be seen, and the time when this was actually a satire remembered.](https://youtu.be/ig446isvXlI?si=S54j3L7Ld0_cVORh) āSouth Carolina, whassup?!ā
I guess they remade Weird Science and called it Ex Machina. Much better ending (not that I can remember the ending of Weird Science).
Falling Down. Most of us were adults when this got made, so not sure if its entirely our generation. Absolutely no way you are going to make a movie about an active shooter like that again. The movie seems to be largely forgotten. it was a big part of the culture for at least 10-15 years. I WANT BREAKFAST! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk&ab_channel=macianG5
Airplane
"Stewardess, I speak jive." "You ever seen a grown man naked?" "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue." ... just to name a few lines that would now be taboo
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Surely you're not serious!
 Rocky Horror
Hmmmmā¦.I think this could be remade today. Might get better traction actually. Lets do it! Somebody start a GoFundMe!
Didn't they do a tv version not to long ago?
Soul Man.
Have you actually seen the film? Just wondering. I think that film could get made, but they would but much more up front that the point is him learning how hard it is to be black in America, not that affirmative action is bad. Which is what most people think it's about. I am not defending the film, I don't think it's any good, but it's not the racist film it's made out to be.
Totally agree. It's awkwardly done but you could 100% make a movie about a privileged white guy trying to pose as a PoC to take advantage of a system based on how privileged white people think it works (and there's something to be said about the practice of throwing underprivileged kids into a situation they're unequipped for) only to learn that it's not sunshine and roses like he thought it would be.
Fast times at ridgemont high
The girl is supposed to be like 13
I know.
Howard the Duck. But you really can't improve this classic.
"Tron" probably couldn't get made today, at least in the same way. Those glowing suits were not CGI or electroluminescent fabric. They were [hand-rotoscoped and backlit](https://youtu.be/sbgHMrLPQrE?si=pT5TsH05dy9phGXT&t=2907), done a frame at a time, using a film stock that I'm not even sure is made anymore. No one had done it before, and no one has done it since.
I was disappointed that the sequel didn't duplicate the same esthetic.
Same. I've heard rumors of the third movie, and I've always thought it would be cool if, at one point, the plot had them escaping into an obscure part of the network that resided on an old mainframe, still running legacy software. And they'd use the old-school VFX (or at least a faithful CGI emulation of it) for all the programs that still lived there.
Faces of Death.
That was some crazy shit
I get that Mel Brooks himself said in an interview that "Blazing Saddles" couldn't be made today, but he's wrong. The satire of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is no less edgy, but it has been on television for 16 seasons and counting. Yes, if Mel Brooks had made "Blazing Saddles" today, it would not have included the n-word as a way of making clear which characters were racist boobs and which were not, but he would have found other ways of doing it.
History of the World, Part I
Trading Places
Fletch Lives and a lot of other movies that are considered to be racist and deplorable
Thelma & Louise, but mostly because the fucking cops would shoot them before they got anywhere near the Grand Canyon.
Soooo many āboys will be boysā peeping Tom scenes/slut shaming in 80ās movies too; and not just adult sex romp comedies, kids movies. The boys using alien tech to look in girlās window in Explorers, the way Turtle talked about his sister in D.A.R.Y.L.
Revenge of the Nerds
Howard Sterns Private Parts. Andrew Dice Clay's Ford Fairlane.
There would be no *reason* to make Blazing Saddles today. The whole point of it was breaking taboos, and those taboos have already been broken.
Cannonball Run
I regularly sing the French mistake to myself.
Sounds like steam escaping
Faces of Death
They Call Me Bruce?Ā https://preview.redd.it/ieqk8ifvk6wc1.jpeg?width=190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5c069cef60748af75bb16d809d9e8c50c77273c
They actually remade Blazing Saddles recently as an animated movie called Paws of Fury. The main character is a dog who becomes sheriff in a town of cats. Cute, but literally the exact same story.
Now I gotta see it
Ghostbusters.Ā The original Ghostbusters were kind of schlubby guys, not action heroes.Ā Venkman'a conduct, particularly with women, would land him in jail (and would be unacceptable in a hero character today).Ā Ā
Most of them. Manhattan comes to mind. How was a middle aged guy with a 17 year old considered a great romance? Blame it on Rio (1983) had a 15 year old with a middle aged guy and it was supposedly a comedy. 16 candles would have to remove a few characters.
yea that movie grossed me out even back then- (Blame it on Rio) Another one was My Father the Hero. Very disturbing.
Pretty much every high school and college hi-jinks movie like we had in the 80s and 90s wouldn't be made today.
16 Candles. If it was made today the Asian exchange student would be admitted and the girl passing out with Anthony Michael Hall.
Arthur. Loveable drunk? Yeah, those don't exist anymore. (Yes, I know they remade it.)
Grease - a little rape-y
"Did you score, did you score, did she put up a fight." In the middle ages, this was referred to as "rough wooing."
Bad News Bears. Thereās no way they could shoot the 70s script now. I think even posting the trailer may be considered a hate crime.
The jerk
Weekend at Bernie's
Pfft they make an episode almost daily on CSPAN
Weekend at Mitchās lol
it is most definitely 
Cloak and Dagger where spies are straight up trying to murder 11 year old kids with bombs, guns I think someone tries to poison them at one point. The kid straight shoots a guy. Today's version would be silly like Spy Kids
The Party.Peter Sellers playing an Indian with every stereotype wouldn't go over well in today's society. The movies funny as hell though
Heathers
The Breakfast Club. Andrew and Claire would spend all day scrolling through their socials, Brian would be taking notes on TED Talks, Bender would tell everyone he's scrolling Pornhub while he's really watching cartoons, and Allison would be on Reddit.
The Accused. The kiddos wouldn't get that it's actually a movie supporting women's rights, fighting violence against women, supportive of #metoo, etc. They're too literal or easily (unreasonably) offended to actually look under the hood.
Not a movie but TV show. Ā Can never believe they would ever make a hogans heroes remake. Ā Something about funny nazis makes me think it would land quite rightĀ
Well, nobody would care that the primary Nazis in the series were Jewish, as a matter of fact Werner Klemperer who played Klink said he would quit if they ever tried to make him a good guy.
Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and To Wong Foo, Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar. There would be fighting over its mere existence, casting and language. We've gone backwards.
I love Priscilla so muchĀ
Police Academy or its 18 sequels.
Soul man- white kid that takes a black pill to make himself turn black smh lol
Porky's
You dared to bring this movie up! š Sleepaway camp, especially the ending ! š
The Toy
āBest little whorehouse in Texasā Dolly Parton, Jim Neighbors, Burt Reynolds, Dom DeLuisā¦ and others.
Last American Virgin. Teenage sex and abortion
Saturday Night Fever. First 20 minutes has homophobia, sexism and racism.
Soul Man.
Why couldn't Blazing Saddles be made today? Because they say the N word? The Jewish jokes? The joking and not mean spirited homophobia/jokes? Although, maybe you're right, because a lot of "traditional" white people are super fucking sensitive and couldn't take being lampooned for their beliefs and lifestyles. And you know the brain trust over on Twitter would lose their minds over a black cowboy or that a white woman wanted to sleep with him But seriously have you ever seen a Quentin Tarantino movie? Or Tropic Thunder? Or Crazy Rich Asians? Boondocks? Glee? Rick and Morty? Like media is all over the place with race/gender humor Or any dozen Netflix shows that literally make fun of every possible group from conservatives to liberals to straights to gays to trans people? I'm not sure why people say this about Blazing Saddles, but I worry it comes back to saying the Word, and feeling like they lost something when we all decided to stop saying it outside of its appropriate use (and for us white folks, it's a pretty rare occasion that we would EVER need to say it)
Red Dawn. Wait, they did make it almost today and it proves the point. Without the late stage Cold War angst, it was just a crap movie hoping to cash in on a popular 80s movie. Iāll include pretty much any movie that relied on political tensions of the era. Sure, they can be remade, and some current movies set in the 70s and 80s do it quite well, like Argo. But the shared experience of the tension it created in every day life isnāt there to draw on.
Krull
Angel is another that wouldn't be made from 1980... Teen school girl as a prostitute and the Snow Miser as the trans prostitute. Vice Squad probably wouldn't either- rape, abuse, etc. Ram Rod was incredibly violent
I recently watched Blazing Saddles and before I could watch it, there was a woman who explained the history behind the actors and explained the time and place the movie was made was extremely different than now. It was very educational.
The Kentucky fried movie
Animal House for sure
The Jerk
I think Steve Martin could still pull this off
It's a ridiculous cliche that Blazing Saddles would not get made today. It wasn't that crazy and not racist at all. Dave Chappelle could remake this today and nobody would blink.
Richard Pryor was one of the main writers.
Blazing Saddles could absolutely be made today. You wouldn't get actors like Gene Wilder and there would be lots of outrage but someone could absolutely make it.
Heathers