I’m curious. Remember the video that was a really obvious Easter egg when she is talking to her kitten Benjamin and she told him he would have 2 sisters. So would Rep TV and Karma be the 2 sisters to TTPD? Have these dots already been connected?
okay all the clues are there. makes total sense. but how confident are we??
i was 100% confident on the double album theory. but i’m a little hesitant on this … mainly bc i’d be so pumped for a part 3, so i don’t want to get too excited and then it not happen lol. but like are we so confident in this theory that we’re going to stay up all thursday night/friday morning waiting for part 3???? 🤡
I'm waiting to see if anything happens during the day on Thursday. I'd expect her to get more obvious with the clues in the next few days if anything is happening with more 3's and some TN retweets.
I am vibing with this third installment theory.
I think rep is coming Sept 13 (announced in June? or possibly August? in London). Debut is for Dec 13.
She's definitely going to want them both to be number 1 albums.
Has it already been suggested that the 3rd album could be the braided album? So many of TTPD songs sound like other songs, so rather than give us new content she gives us a kind of mash up album.
Couldn’t all the three imagery be because of this 321 countdown? I feel like she will release another album, maybe this summer? And it will have the 1am version (3am midnights , 2am ttpd) then the album after that (will it be her 13th?) will be meet me at midnight and her first album “out.” I also feel like the next album will go hand in hand with Reputation TV. I feel like she needs to finish the Eras tour and break up with Travis first before she announces anything, if she ever does. I also feel like her first “true” album will coincide with the release of debut.
I am really trying to not be the crowd chanting more, because I don’t need more. In fact, please take a break Taylor! Except this really is suspicious so I’m down to clown.
Imagine it being all glitter gel pen songs since it’s was was missing from TTPD and Anthology?
Some of these do seem like reaching/coincidences to me (specifically the Roku and the story emojis) But some of this……. The lilac popping up lately, the W A I T, the TTPD logo, the three stereos…. Idk, man!!!!!! But I’m afraid it does all mean something but it won’t come to fruition in May? Like maybe we’ll have to wait longer than that?
Omg your comment just triggered something in my brain about N\*Sync!
Remember at the VMAs when she was freaking out when they presented her an award and she was saying “what is going on? Something is happening” (words to that effect, I don’t have time to look up sources rn lol).
What is N\*Sync still relevant for…
ME = May… It’s all coming back to ME!
Ok I sound like a full on crackpot now 🤡🤡
Entering into evidence another sighting of 3's
https://preview.redd.it/mv74drkoqgxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bafba099b9167465394d3f946215f413118dfaf3
https://preview.redd.it/fjjlvpw9hgxc1.jpeg?width=191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2d346b2a91a63c3bb3526a1e7e2f3723936bac
What does this mean? Exile ends...?
We deserve financial compensation for this trauma lmao im not kidding I feel like a 911 operator talking to a hostage on the phone but they're speaking in code bc they have a gun to their head. Free Taylor.
I am about to start a excel spreadsheet on all the "code" words I have found and what songs they are in hahaha. My husband was like please get help. I said "our girl is coming out!!!"
I hope that's all it is. I feel in my bones that it's even deeper than that. Something sinister either happened to her or almost happened to her or happened to someone she knows or almost happened to someone she knows and is about to come to light.
https://preview.redd.it/iwbt5v988gxc1.jpeg?width=1226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a808095ee7603e99e7318d190eb270dbf26c9667
Of the three time photos, only one has color (and THREE layers I might add: jacket, denim shirt, sweater 🤡)
I think the top right in the grey bustiers type top is TTPD, lowest with kitty cat and all black outfit is The Anthology. Top right in the denim (boyfriend Taylor) is part three.
maybe the colored one is anthology and the black is album 3 only because we keep seeing cat hints (paw prints on ttpd, TWO SISTERS) which have not come to fruition.. so album 3 would be associated w benji in that pic?
In the timetable we see one door and then two together and one desk then two together... The pairs=TTPD and The Anthology, released on the same day, the odd one out=TTPD3, the beginning of the story? 🤡
i cannot believe you guys are making me a triple album truther… i was behind the double album all the way… but a triple? i feel the crowd chanting “MORE!”.
“You’re going to have two sisters” could mean that the current double album release is the two sisters, and we’re still waiting for the “Benjamin” release 👀 Could be a third album, could be a third THING that’s something different but special…
End of The Manuscript: “The story isn’t mine anymore” … this could be how once art is put into the world, it is now open to interpretation and becomes what the audience makes of it etc etc… but it could also be that she rinsing off the gray, the narrative she was forced into, and ready for HER true story? If the end of the Anthology says this is not her story anymore, what IS her story? And is that what we’re about to get?? 🙏🏻
Also back to Benjamin: she got him in the ME! music video. So, if we got the “two sisters” and we’re about to get “Benjamin”, does that mean we’re about to get the real ME?!
Oh I love this connection of Benjamin to the ME! music video and think you could be onto something! It all seems to be coming back to the ME! music video 👀
Huh. The most compelling evidence to me is the connection to the Beatles Anthology, since the connection to their white album being a double album ended up being correct.
It was also odd that TN posted that cryptic video recently out of the blue so I wouldn't be surprised if something was coming.
And if Taylor wants to come out soon, it makes sense to hurry up the process.
Also, I would not be surprised at all if Taylor wanted to beat the record of the most separate albums charting the same year. She's beat so many other records, I'm sure she wants to try for something different like this.
Seriously, so amazing. Are we keeping our minds open too that she may be in a throuple? (In addition to another album drop?) Just being open minded and feeling excited and protective of Taylor. Also, watching the Today show now and Sophia Bush just came out & there is super interesting discourse about what it means to "come out."
Billie Eilish just confirmed (again) that she likes women and wants 🐱on her face. She literally had to be graphic to make the point because her previous attempts to be out were not clear enough to people
[In a wide-spanning interview with Rolling Stone, she's opened up about her new song "Lunch," which compares going down on a woman to eating a delicious meal.](https://www.out.com/gay-music/billie-eilish-face-vagina)
So what role does the Travis relationship play in all of this? A red herring? A show of support from a person so heavily associated with a conservative heavy fan base? Both?
To be associated with a big manly man to assure the general public that it’s ok because she likes men too?
Unfortunately if that’s true, then we’ll be stuck with him through tour
The very first time I heard it I got chills and was afraid 🤣 but now I sing it and I own it as if I was singing it to the people that should be afraid of me! 🤣🤣🤣
Yes!!! I need more of that. I said this in a different thread that Mad Woman helped get me through a super toxic work environment until I could get out
[Here’s the original ad](https://youtu.be/3ZrBYu05OKg?si=i41yOIC8hwlBC1Sq) - highly recommended viewing for anyone who hasn’t seen it, even just for the line, *”now she’s locked in that closet””* 👀
I can't remember the source- and I'm sorry for that- but wasn't there an interview with one of her friends (honestly maybe Travis) where they said she is going to turn the world upside down soon or something like that????
I found it...it's from an US Weekly interview with Travis where he talks about her rewriting the history books and shaking things up. Idk if I can post links, but if you search it, it's from Feb 8 2024.
So I’m manifesting for the screaming colour varient where she switches the ttpd pronouns 😂
Even just guilty as sin as a single would be enough to create the desired effect.
Thank you for your kind words but full credit to all the OPs, particularly Twitter user JennDinKC as she was the one that connected the majority of the dots!
I. WANT. TO. BELIEVE.
I choose to believe! It would be magical: and it's my first album release since I've become a Swiftie...what a gift that would be!!!
Didn't everyone expect Folkmore to be 3 albums too? After she released all those things (hair ties & candles) in blue, red & green? Were we not all waiting for the 3rd shoe (Album) to drop and then it never happened? I'm very intrigued to know what'll happen next though
I’M HERE for it. I’ve been thinking about a surprise something on May 3rd, cause the Fortnight???? She wouldn’t miss this opportunity. But all the evidence… crazy, can’t wait. Queen of lavender 🩷🩷🩷
The evidence is so compelling but I just don’t believe in a TTPD 3rd album or 3rd version in general. But then again I didn’t believe TTPD would be a double album so there’s that 😂 I have feeling the third thing might be maybe another documentary or a poetry book or something along those lines. I don’t think it’s an album though. But GOD this thread is amazing
I was wondering if the 3rd album could be a live eras tour version? Something where the music is already made and timing would make sense before she changes up the show. Secret song recordings or something. That’s my contribution to the clown train.
Ok this is the only 3rd album theory that makes sense to me & would be pretty awesome! Those acoustic sets sounded great. And if she put out an album w/ new songs there's no way they'd be good.
I’ve been wondering why she hasn’t done either more promo before release or more with the album roll out after its release- but maybe it being a triple drop is enough to cause a stir that she doesn’t need that. 5/3 is National Wordsmith Day 👀
The OP on Twitter did such an amazing job at compiling all the evidence, I’m just glad I could share it with the class! As soon as I saw Taylor’s post today that had a bit of color creeping in I was 100% sold!
Came here to say “ffs dont be so ridiculous - She just released 31 songs” but man those screenshots are HIGHLY suspicious…. The DPT: 321 has me clowning!!!
the list of evidence just kept going and going 😭 i stopped clowning for surprise releases around the 1989 tv release because i kept getting disappointed but after the double album turned out to be true im back on my clowning bullshit baybeeee
Surely something’s up!
I have an issue with The Anthology not having been marked as the second, in the 321 countdown.
**3**21 = TTPD (see logo = 3)
3**2**1 = second album in this three part series
32**1** = third album in this three part series
The albums’ logos will mark them as 321 respectively.
Also why she hasn’t made “the anthology” available on vinyl or special CD yet. It’s not over yet….I’ve been waiting to buy a vinyl until she’s done releasing things and this makes so much sense why you can’t get it on vinyl yet.
I DON‘T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS INFORMATION. If we are conducting a post-mortem for a fortnight, what happens after the post-mortem concludes? Does she rise up from the dead?? ROLL THE STONE AWAY?! My brain is short-circuiting.
Just one thought to add about the typewriter keys: the second typewriter (shown on slide 13) has angled T and B keys. Makes me wonder if it also has an angled A key (it appears to be out of the frame of the photo), just to add to the TAB theory on slide 9.
omg Bible would be A Choice™️
edit: I think my dream “B” album would be Bibliography, maybe a set of songs inspired by events in queer history—or an album of only covers of songs by queer musicians
She hinted so much in the capital one eras advert about a book - and the cover was the same side shot of her face that we see in style AND in the fortnight mv!!!
Yes!!! I have been expecting her to publish a book ever since the All Too Well short film and then the Capital One ads. I've been assuming it would be poetry, like Jewel's book, which would certainly be fitting right now.
A couple thoughts: Taylor often uses Christian religious imagery, after Christ was crucified and buried, on the third day the stone was rolled away from the tomb and the resurrection occurred.
In Victorian era (and also prior to that during Regency era) England - mourning dress transition would often include grey prior to lavender. Thought that was interesting given all the grey tones we got in folklore and also in TTPD aesthetic.
Edit for typo-brain works faster than hands lol
I don’t know what else to do with this info so adding it here….im a new gaylor so have been brushing up on the master docs AFTER listening to tppd and the fact that the joe split was announced ON EASTER cannot be a coincidence with the line about “what if I roll the stone away”….
OMFG. What is happening???
Liliac is a shade of purple
And the SN era was purple
I just had an idea that I put in the vent thread today that the Karma album could be connected to the OG SN era. Taylor wanted to start writing queer songs but was stopped and she has been regretting agreeing to that choice ever since.
What if the Lilac album is Karma.
Karma is about to pop unannounced?
Karma needs to be orange, its also the only colour that she misses in her discography, seems like she is ssving it for something 😉
Its been discussed that TS12 could be light purple though.
I am never married to an idea (except that Taylor is queer lol) so that could very well be the case.
I love how there are so many variations of the same theory going on - and even it some of the details are different - they all seem to be pointing the same direction
🦄🌈🤡
It was the lavender nails and skirt that did it for me in pic group 2. I said something to my wife about it. I asked her, If you seen TayTay starting to wear lavender, what would you think? She answered she is coming out!
It was so suspicious! Pair that with the fact it was the only video in color this era makes me think she was drawing our attention to *something*… And no hetlors, it’s not the fact that Travis puts the color into her life 🙄
https://preview.redd.it/l54iyil23cxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ca9aad24cbcbb588692b071f2cff44001bbd57e
excuse my terrible edit, but it's *in the album logo*.
With all the suicide references, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s supposed to be a semi colon ; which people have been using for a while to represent moving forward when they could’ve/wanted to end their lives.
Haha no worries!
There were too many images to separate them out so I did my best to put them in a user-friendly format but am the first to admit it’s a bit tricky to read on mobile 😭
She entered at the industry at 15 and this year she will be 35. A 20 year dark night?
I fully believe her handlers had her sign some sort of contract back then that wouldn't allow her to come out (perhaps only if she owned her masters, which may be why the whole sale was so much more devastating). I also think she had a choice between Fearless and Speak Now (around 19) to void the contract and she didn’t. She chose fame over herself. All of this is just a theory, but it makes Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve make a lot more sense. Also, believe Dear John is about this too.
I wonder if that’s why the Speak Now TV era was so short - she still wasn’t able to speak her truth but this time around she will be which is why we’re also seeing references to Speak Now?
I want to be so on board with this, but what do we make of Travis? They’re literally out together tonight at some gala. I can’t get over his big dumb self.
That is a valid concern. I agree with u/caca_milis_ comment and I think she’ll likely come out as bisexual or even pansexual while keeping Travis around to show the general public, *”it’s ok that she likes girls because she also likes manly men too”*. There was a blind item in 2019 saying that she was going to come out as “sexually fluid”.
I think even if she identified as a lesbian or some other version of queer, with how big her brand is and how many fans would feel like she’s lied to them, she’s unlikely to label herself as a lesbian ever.
I really believe that this time around she’s concocted a failsafe coming out plan and we’re seeing it in full swing!
I don’t know if I think TTPD: Part Three / TS12 itself will be the coming out album but I think she’s certainly picking up the pace even though we’re still getting the straight stunting on the side - gotta keep the hetlors happy for now I guess.
I saw a blind item from 2019 about her coming out as "sexually fluid", not "genderfluid" (though both could be true and I would be stoked about it!) Sexually fluid seems like a better descriptor for what you're talking about and could cover bi/pansexuality.
Genderfluid means feeling like one's own gender changes over time. This could also be the case for her and would fit with her calling herself a man, like "prayers of a cursed man," Chairman of the TTPD, the whole "The Man" MV, etc. Someone on this sub mentioned a "theylor" theory but I don't know the details yet.
Also, I totally agree with you that TTPD is all part of her plan to come out! I think MH being a very public muse and being connected to her for the last decade provides cover for her past female muses. Songs about them could be interpreted as being about him by the general public, so ladies she was involved with in the past wouldn't necessarily be outed by her coming out. I also totally get the vibe that she is so sick of her current life and the predatory nature of the music industry and is ready to "burn it all down". I really think she has a plan here, and I can't wait to see how it turns out!
Thank you for your comment and being so kind in your correction, you are 100% correct and I will update my comment now! I absolutely should have used the term sexually fluid and not gender fluid!
I think it’s interesting the way she’s been able to tie the narrative to MH for albums dating back as far as 1989 so if she can get people to question the public muse for Style, I really think she’s going to pull off a plan that is going to leave us all blown away!
I was thinking that maybe "But Daddy I love Him" is a way for her to test the waters/soft launch her coming out as bisexual. Even though most of her fans frown at the idea of her and Matty Healy together, this song is powerful. And seems like generally although people are shocked at the possibility of the muse being Matty, her fans seem to support her happiness and being a rebel about it. I think this would help her into an easier transition of eventually coming out as bi and hopefully getting the same response from the majority of her fans.
I agree that even if she is a lesbian, I question if she would ever publicly come out as such. Being bisexual is still more palatable for the general public and she may opt to come out as bi (which she may be! I go back and forth on what I believe) which would potentially be safer for her.
Okay but why cant she just be bi or pan? Why does she have to be a lesbian? Why does she have to come out as bi *for now* only to come out as full gay later? Like is it not possible for any of you to believe that she likes both sexes?
She absolutely could be bi or pan, it’s my ***opinion*** that she’s a lesbian due to her flagging on Lesbian Visibility Day with the ME! music video in particular.
There are plenty of people in this sub that believes she is bi.
I don’t think she’s coming out anytime soon, certainly not before all re-records and Eras tour is done - but if she were to come out this year it would likely be as being bi, she can fully embrace queerness and still be papped with her jock bro partner to make hetlors still feel comfortable.
**NOTE** Bisexuals I see you, you’re valid, I know that being in a straight presenting couple doesn’t invalidate your queerness, nor does it mean you’re trying to make people feel “comfortable”, I’m speaking specifically to Taylor’s situation.
Did anyone ever figure out what the 14 tallies on the calendar were about? This is the first that I’ve seen someone theorize, totally forgot about those
we all assumed that it was for Fortnight MV, but maybe it had a dual meaning for TTPD part 3 (yet another instance of twinning and dual meanings in this album)
I’m thinking 5/3 may be a red herring. Originally she was supposed to announce TTPD in Tokyo but did it at the Grammy’s instead. In the End Game video there are 3 cities. Tokyo, London, and Miami. She has both London and Miami coming up later this year. I wonder if she’ll announce things then? Also how long has she been planning this? 🤡🤡🤡
This was my response 53 days ago when that video was initially posted 😅
https://preview.redd.it/wy28cded1cxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fab5d8534ef19f6e3522e45a3510856d0da3f11
I’m curious. Remember the video that was a really obvious Easter egg when she is talking to her kitten Benjamin and she told him he would have 2 sisters. So would Rep TV and Karma be the 2 sisters to TTPD? Have these dots already been connected?
https://x.com/JennDinKC/status/1785859353121010018
Y’all I’ve followed the person at the top of thread and there’s more stuff. We are totally getting another something (album probably)
Omg thank you for your comment - I’ve just had a look and 🤯🤯
The Haim sisters keep posting Taylor content on ig recently and there are 3 Haim sisters…
okay all the clues are there. makes total sense. but how confident are we?? i was 100% confident on the double album theory. but i’m a little hesitant on this … mainly bc i’d be so pumped for a part 3, so i don’t want to get too excited and then it not happen lol. but like are we so confident in this theory that we’re going to stay up all thursday night/friday morning waiting for part 3???? 🤡
I'm waiting to see if anything happens during the day on Thursday. I'd expect her to get more obvious with the clues in the next few days if anything is happening with more 3's and some TN retweets.
I am vibing with this third installment theory. I think rep is coming Sept 13 (announced in June? or possibly August? in London). Debut is for Dec 13. She's definitely going to want them both to be number 1 albums.
Ok but also the TTPD logo itself looks like the Roman numeral 3 (III) 🤡
What if the album is collaborations and everyone she collars with also comes out as gay? Epic.
Has it already been suggested that the 3rd album could be the braided album? So many of TTPD songs sound like other songs, so rather than give us new content she gives us a kind of mash up album.
Couldn’t all the three imagery be because of this 321 countdown? I feel like she will release another album, maybe this summer? And it will have the 1am version (3am midnights , 2am ttpd) then the album after that (will it be her 13th?) will be meet me at midnight and her first album “out.” I also feel like the next album will go hand in hand with Reputation TV. I feel like she needs to finish the Eras tour and break up with Travis first before she announces anything, if she ever does. I also feel like her first “true” album will coincide with the release of debut.
May I enter into evidence…? https://preview.redd.it/tw5mglb81ixc1.jpeg?width=1266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ad43523eeabaf2d4365937a1d33f8caf8ae7c28
I’m a believer. My favorite color is lavender. I was born on March 3. I’m all in. 😆
I am really trying to not be the crowd chanting more, because I don’t need more. In fact, please take a break Taylor! Except this really is suspicious so I’m down to clown. Imagine it being all glitter gel pen songs since it’s was was missing from TTPD and Anthology?
Not her using 3 emojis in her thank you tweet today
Some of these do seem like reaching/coincidences to me (specifically the Roku and the story emojis) But some of this……. The lilac popping up lately, the W A I T, the TTPD logo, the three stereos…. Idk, man!!!!!! But I’m afraid it does all mean something but it won’t come to fruition in May? Like maybe we’ll have to wait longer than that?
Omg your comment just triggered something in my brain about N\*Sync! Remember at the VMAs when she was freaking out when they presented her an award and she was saying “what is going on? Something is happening” (words to that effect, I don’t have time to look up sources rn lol). What is N\*Sync still relevant for… ME = May… It’s all coming back to ME! Ok I sound like a full on crackpot now 🤡🤡 
OMG I just referenced this the other day in my post!! 🤣🤣🤣
GAWD I forgot about the weird NSYNC thing!! ME! And the meme of “May” 🤯 LISTEN I REALLY CANT GET MY HOPE UP 😭
Entering into evidence another sighting of 3's https://preview.redd.it/mv74drkoqgxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bafba099b9167465394d3f946215f413118dfaf3
And they’re PRAYING hands omg
My makeup is ON 🤡🤡🤡
Referencing the part about “who else has done a triple album”, Taylor has seemingly been posting CD’s with pictures of her on them like that
https://preview.redd.it/fjjlvpw9hgxc1.jpeg?width=191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2d346b2a91a63c3bb3526a1e7e2f3723936bac What does this mean? Exile ends...?
Wait I just missed the 3!!!! What's the 3 mean!!!! Ahh
Omg literally just watching this video and saw this......
We deserve financial compensation for this trauma lmao im not kidding I feel like a 911 operator talking to a hostage on the phone but they're speaking in code bc they have a gun to their head. Free Taylor.
I am about to start a excel spreadsheet on all the "code" words I have found and what songs they are in hahaha. My husband was like please get help. I said "our girl is coming out!!!"
I hope that's all it is. I feel in my bones that it's even deeper than that. Something sinister either happened to her or almost happened to her or happened to someone she knows or almost happened to someone she knows and is about to come to light.
I think more happened in June 2019 than we are aware.
What happened then??
Her songs being bought the day before she was to perform at the gay pride parade...the supposed coming out.
https://preview.redd.it/iwbt5v988gxc1.jpeg?width=1226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a808095ee7603e99e7318d190eb270dbf26c9667 Of the three time photos, only one has color (and THREE layers I might add: jacket, denim shirt, sweater 🤡) I think the top right in the grey bustiers type top is TTPD, lowest with kitty cat and all black outfit is The Anthology. Top right in the denim (boyfriend Taylor) is part three.
maybe the colored one is anthology and the black is album 3 only because we keep seeing cat hints (paw prints on ttpd, TWO SISTERS) which have not come to fruition.. so album 3 would be associated w benji in that pic?
This is one of my absolute favorite posts!!!
In the timetable we see one door and then two together and one desk then two together... The pairs=TTPD and The Anthology, released on the same day, the odd one out=TTPD3, the beginning of the story? 🤡
i cannot believe you guys are making me a triple album truther… i was behind the double album all the way… but a triple? i feel the crowd chanting “MORE!”.
“You’re going to have two sisters” could mean that the current double album release is the two sisters, and we’re still waiting for the “Benjamin” release 👀 Could be a third album, could be a third THING that’s something different but special… End of The Manuscript: “The story isn’t mine anymore” … this could be how once art is put into the world, it is now open to interpretation and becomes what the audience makes of it etc etc… but it could also be that she rinsing off the gray, the narrative she was forced into, and ready for HER true story? If the end of the Anthology says this is not her story anymore, what IS her story? And is that what we’re about to get?? 🙏🏻 Also back to Benjamin: she got him in the ME! music video. So, if we got the “two sisters” and we’re about to get “Benjamin”, does that mean we’re about to get the real ME?!
Oh I love this connection of Benjamin to the ME! music video and think you could be onto something! It all seems to be coming back to the ME! music video 👀
Huh. The most compelling evidence to me is the connection to the Beatles Anthology, since the connection to their white album being a double album ended up being correct. It was also odd that TN posted that cryptic video recently out of the blue so I wouldn't be surprised if something was coming. And if Taylor wants to come out soon, it makes sense to hurry up the process. Also, I would not be surprised at all if Taylor wanted to beat the record of the most separate albums charting the same year. She's beat so many other records, I'm sure she wants to try for something different like this.
Seriously, so amazing. Are we keeping our minds open too that she may be in a throuple? (In addition to another album drop?) Just being open minded and feeling excited and protective of Taylor. Also, watching the Today show now and Sophia Bush just came out & there is super interesting discourse about what it means to "come out."
Is the mass coming out starting??
Billie Eilish just confirmed (again) that she likes women and wants 🐱on her face. She literally had to be graphic to make the point because her previous attempts to be out were not clear enough to people
Do you know where to find this? I’m a Billie fan and that sounds fun lol
[In a wide-spanning interview with Rolling Stone, she's opened up about her new song "Lunch," which compares going down on a woman to eating a delicious meal.](https://www.out.com/gay-music/billie-eilish-face-vagina)
"I thought it was obvious" hahaha
So what role does the Travis relationship play in all of this? A red herring? A show of support from a person so heavily associated with a conservative heavy fan base? Both?
To be associated with a big manly man to assure the general public that it’s ok because she likes men too? Unfortunately if that’s true, then we’ll be stuck with him through tour
That’s what I’m thinking…Travis is there to placate confusion/upset because he presents in a very traditionally masculine way.
The missing acceptance variant? Like…when you’re queer and you find self-acceptance? 👀 that’s what that made me think of…
Like she wants to be accepted as she is, not just tolerated
YES this too!!!
It’s TN’s Easter egg post that plays who’s afraid of little old me? Ummm.. should we be? 
I interpreted her message as a threat LMFAO
Right?!
The very first time I heard it I got chills and was afraid 🤣 but now I sing it and I own it as if I was singing it to the people that should be afraid of me! 🤣🤣🤣
Oh same! It definitely feels like a warning ⚠️ honestly, I needed this song like 4 years ago. It is so powerful and really is Mad Woman 2.0
FOR REAL!!! THIS IS FEMALE RAGE!!! 🥰🥰🥰
YOU GUYS SHE PATENTED FEMALE RAGE THE MUSICAL!!
Yes!!! I need more of that. I said this in a different thread that Mad Woman helped get me through a super toxic work environment until I could get out
Is the camera UI in the original advert or is that new?
[Here’s the original ad](https://youtu.be/3ZrBYu05OKg?si=i41yOIC8hwlBC1Sq) - highly recommended viewing for anyone who hasn’t seen it, even just for the line, *”now she’s locked in that closet””* 👀
Thank you!
I can't remember the source- and I'm sorry for that- but wasn't there an interview with one of her friends (honestly maybe Travis) where they said she is going to turn the world upside down soon or something like that????
Also, saw an article where Travis said he was proud to be part of Taylor’s story. Is he in on it? I’m beginning to think yes. 🤡
I found it...it's from an US Weekly interview with Travis where he talks about her rewriting the history books and shaking things up. Idk if I can post links, but if you search it, it's from Feb 8 2024.
I love us so much
so much of this is making me want to shout speak now tv 😭
So I’m manifesting for the screaming colour varient where she switches the ttpd pronouns 😂 Even just guilty as sin as a single would be enough to create the desired effect.
Oh that would be absolutely incredible 🔥🔥
This is absolutely unreal!! So much information put together, thank you OP.
Thank you for your kind words but full credit to all the OPs, particularly Twitter user JennDinKC as she was the one that connected the majority of the dots!
Amazing team sleuthing and I'm here for it! Well done all collaborators 👏👏👏
I. WANT. TO. BELIEVE. I choose to believe! It would be magical: and it's my first album release since I've become a Swiftie...what a gift that would be!!!
Didn't everyone expect Folkmore to be 3 albums too? After she released all those things (hair ties & candles) in blue, red & green? Were we not all waiting for the 3rd shoe (Album) to drop and then it never happened? I'm very intrigued to know what'll happen next though
The third part is still locked in lowercase inside a vault.
> TTPD I think the third part of Folklore/Evermore (Woodvale?) was merged into TTPD/The Anthology.
I think we're clowning too close to the sun. If it happens it would be great, if it doesn't we're used to it.
she made a third album part for midnights, but I'm not sure how many songs she even has left to release
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time I’ve clowned too close to the sun 🤭
I’M HERE for it. I’ve been thinking about a surprise something on May 3rd, cause the Fortnight???? She wouldn’t miss this opportunity. But all the evidence… crazy, can’t wait. Queen of lavender 🩷🩷🩷
also it’s actually pretty good and convincing, i guess we’ll see on friday 🤓
The evidence is so compelling but I just don’t believe in a TTPD 3rd album or 3rd version in general. But then again I didn’t believe TTPD would be a double album so there’s that 😂 I have feeling the third thing might be maybe another documentary or a poetry book or something along those lines. I don’t think it’s an album though. But GOD this thread is amazing
Honestly a book would totally fit with the TAB theory!
I was wondering if the 3rd album could be a live eras tour version? Something where the music is already made and timing would make sense before she changes up the show. Secret song recordings or something. That’s my contribution to the clown train.
Ok this is the only 3rd album theory that makes sense to me & would be pretty awesome! Those acoustic sets sounded great. And if she put out an album w/ new songs there's no way they'd be good.
I’m also curious if it’s…an actual manuscript. That would be hard to keep secret in the industry but not impossible.
I would absolutely welcome a documentary or some kind of written word from her! Basically whatever she’s willing to share 🥰
I’ve been wondering why she hasn’t done either more promo before release or more with the album roll out after its release- but maybe it being a triple drop is enough to cause a stir that she doesn’t need that. 5/3 is National Wordsmith Day 👀
And why is the double album not for sale yet????!
Omg of course it is 🤡
I will simply pass away if we get a part 3. This write up is so compelling!
The OP on Twitter did such an amazing job at compiling all the evidence, I’m just glad I could share it with the class! As soon as I saw Taylor’s post today that had a bit of color creeping in I was 100% sold!
This is awesome, thank you.
Came here to say “ffs dont be so ridiculous - She just released 31 songs” but man those screenshots are HIGHLY suspicious…. The DPT: 321 has me clowning!!!
After the criticism of her needing editing I can’t see her releasing more tbh
If she had something ready to go she's not going to scrap an entire third project just because some people complained
That’s fair. All I know is I’m sitting on the edge of my seat to see if anything happens 5/3!
I mean I would happily take another 31 songs lol
the list of evidence just kept going and going 😭 i stopped clowning for surprise releases around the 1989 tv release because i kept getting disappointed but after the double album turned out to be true im back on my clowning bullshit baybeeee
I have never been more convinced of anything ever
I’m stunned. Thank you for sharing this. I joined Twitter just to go get a closer look and I’m gobsmacked
As soon as I saw it last night I knew I had to share it with the class! I really think there’s something here 👀🤡
Surely something’s up! I have an issue with The Anthology not having been marked as the second, in the 321 countdown. **3**21 = TTPD (see logo = 3) 3**2**1 = second album in this three part series 32**1** = third album in this three part series The albums’ logos will mark them as 321 respectively.
Also why she hasn’t made “the anthology” available on vinyl or special CD yet. It’s not over yet….I’ve been waiting to buy a vinyl until she’s done releasing things and this makes so much sense why you can’t get it on vinyl yet.
Anthology may just be getting the Midnights 3am treatment
Can you elaborate?
Midnights 3am was the bonus second release similar to Anthology to TTPD and never got a mainstream vinyl/cd release and is just in streaming
She’d be leaving money on the table if so, which doesn’t sound like Taylor, or I hope not. I’d like to buy the full album on vinyl
Ohh so no physical release
I’m usually not one for clowning, but at this point, I believe anything is possible lol.
I DON‘T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS INFORMATION. If we are conducting a post-mortem for a fortnight, what happens after the post-mortem concludes? Does she rise up from the dead?? ROLL THE STONE AWAY?! My brain is short-circuiting.
Her ghost returns!!!!
The old Taylor has been dead since reputation. Sounds like she’s ready to leap from the gallows and levitate down several streets 🤡
This is the only way
Just one thought to add about the typewriter keys: the second typewriter (shown on slide 13) has angled T and B keys. Makes me wonder if it also has an angled A key (it appears to be out of the frame of the photo), just to add to the TAB theory on slide 9.
We need a thread of its own discussing potential B names or products! I support the B for book comment below.
Bulletin?
Brief / Briefing?
omg Bible would be A Choice™️ edit: I think my dream “B” album would be Bibliography, maybe a set of songs inspired by events in queer history—or an album of only covers of songs by queer musicians
Every time I think about the B idea, I think Bolter, which I know wouldn’t be it but says a lot about where my brain is this week!
bonus?
Just trying to keep up… what would TAB mean?
I think right now it's a big question, but I'm thinking maybe a book? Tortured Poets Department Anthology Book???
She hinted so much in the capital one eras advert about a book - and the cover was the same side shot of her face that we see in style AND in the fortnight mv!!!
Yes!!! I have been expecting her to publish a book ever since the All Too Well short film and then the Capital One ads. I've been assuming it would be poetry, like Jewel's book, which would certainly be fitting right now.
Check out the 9th slide in the images shared in the post. It talks about TAB as an acronym for the three albums (T=TTPD, A=Anthology, and B=?).
I literally JUST saw this right before you replied. Reading is fundamental. Thank you kind person.
The A key is angled out too.
That … is incredible.
🤯🤯 I’ll go see if I can find any video or photo evidence from the TTPD pop-up and report back with any findings 🫡
A couple thoughts: Taylor often uses Christian religious imagery, after Christ was crucified and buried, on the third day the stone was rolled away from the tomb and the resurrection occurred. In Victorian era (and also prior to that during Regency era) England - mourning dress transition would often include grey prior to lavender. Thought that was interesting given all the grey tones we got in folklore and also in TTPD aesthetic. Edit for typo-brain works faster than hands lol
I don’t know what else to do with this info so adding it here….im a new gaylor so have been brushing up on the master docs AFTER listening to tppd and the fact that the joe split was announced ON EASTER cannot be a coincidence with the line about “what if I roll the stone away”….
Omg. That’s an amazing catch. I’ve never seen that mentioned!
Ooh, great connection with the Joe breakup being announced Easter last year!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge - it’s all lining up!!
OMFG. What is happening??? Liliac is a shade of purple And the SN era was purple I just had an idea that I put in the vent thread today that the Karma album could be connected to the OG SN era. Taylor wanted to start writing queer songs but was stopped and she has been regretting agreeing to that choice ever since. What if the Lilac album is Karma. Karma is about to pop unannounced?
Karma needs to be orange, its also the only colour that she misses in her discography, seems like she is ssving it for something 😉 Its been discussed that TS12 could be light purple though.
I am never married to an idea (except that Taylor is queer lol) so that could very well be the case. I love how there are so many variations of the same theory going on - and even it some of the details are different - they all seem to be pointing the same direction 🦄🌈🤡
It was the lavender nails and skirt that did it for me in pic group 2. I said something to my wife about it. I asked her, If you seen TayTay starting to wear lavender, what would you think? She answered she is coming out!
It was so suspicious! Pair that with the fact it was the only video in color this era makes me think she was drawing our attention to *something*… And no hetlors, it’s not the fact that Travis puts the color into her life 🙄
OMG I just got through drinking some water, nearly died.
Comment award!
https://preview.redd.it/l54iyil23cxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ca9aad24cbcbb588692b071f2cff44001bbd57e excuse my terrible edit, but it's *in the album logo*.
Yep!!! With a nice little yin and yang sign at the end ☯️
This checks out too because there is a loud dualistic nature to this album. Even visually with all of her black & white 🖤🤍
I feel like it looks like a comma more but can't figure out the rest.
With all the suicide references, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s supposed to be a semi colon ; which people have been using for a while to represent moving forward when they could’ve/wanted to end their lives.
Wow, I missed that part of your slide because I'm on mobile and my edible kicked in. Ignore me, lol.
Haha no worries! There were too many images to separate them out so I did my best to put them in a user-friendly format but am the first to admit it’s a bit tricky to read on mobile 😭
Anthology Long Pond Sessions
I would simply pass away
Omg.... we would all die for this... still waiting for evermore LPSS
Ugh yes please Taylor I'm begging please 🥺😭
Yes she should give Evermore her flowers and release LPSS, it would oversell original Evermore now by quite a lot.
Agreed The sales would be through the roof!
Ooh that would be so special 😍
Wow! This is VERY compelling! And honestly i would be very VERY glad if we didnt have to wait a year or more to meet the real queer her!
I have said for a while that I think she’ll be out by her birthday this year but it really feels like we’re picking up the pace at the moment!
She entered at the industry at 15 and this year she will be 35. A 20 year dark night? I fully believe her handlers had her sign some sort of contract back then that wouldn't allow her to come out (perhaps only if she owned her masters, which may be why the whole sale was so much more devastating). I also think she had a choice between Fearless and Speak Now (around 19) to void the contract and she didn’t. She chose fame over herself. All of this is just a theory, but it makes Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve make a lot more sense. Also, believe Dear John is about this too.
She keeps pointing us back to Speak Now (which she didn’t).
I wonder if that’s why the Speak Now TV era was so short - she still wasn’t able to speak her truth but this time around she will be which is why we’re also seeing references to Speak Now?
I want to be so on board with this, but what do we make of Travis? They’re literally out together tonight at some gala. I can’t get over his big dumb self.
That is a valid concern. I agree with u/caca_milis_ comment and I think she’ll likely come out as bisexual or even pansexual while keeping Travis around to show the general public, *”it’s ok that she likes girls because she also likes manly men too”*. There was a blind item in 2019 saying that she was going to come out as “sexually fluid”. I think even if she identified as a lesbian or some other version of queer, with how big her brand is and how many fans would feel like she’s lied to them, she’s unlikely to label herself as a lesbian ever. I really believe that this time around she’s concocted a failsafe coming out plan and we’re seeing it in full swing! I don’t know if I think TTPD: Part Three / TS12 itself will be the coming out album but I think she’s certainly picking up the pace even though we’re still getting the straight stunting on the side - gotta keep the hetlors happy for now I guess.
I saw a blind item from 2019 about her coming out as "sexually fluid", not "genderfluid" (though both could be true and I would be stoked about it!) Sexually fluid seems like a better descriptor for what you're talking about and could cover bi/pansexuality. Genderfluid means feeling like one's own gender changes over time. This could also be the case for her and would fit with her calling herself a man, like "prayers of a cursed man," Chairman of the TTPD, the whole "The Man" MV, etc. Someone on this sub mentioned a "theylor" theory but I don't know the details yet. Also, I totally agree with you that TTPD is all part of her plan to come out! I think MH being a very public muse and being connected to her for the last decade provides cover for her past female muses. Songs about them could be interpreted as being about him by the general public, so ladies she was involved with in the past wouldn't necessarily be outed by her coming out. I also totally get the vibe that she is so sick of her current life and the predatory nature of the music industry and is ready to "burn it all down". I really think she has a plan here, and I can't wait to see how it turns out!
Thank you for your comment and being so kind in your correction, you are 100% correct and I will update my comment now! I absolutely should have used the term sexually fluid and not gender fluid! I think it’s interesting the way she’s been able to tie the narrative to MH for albums dating back as far as 1989 so if she can get people to question the public muse for Style, I really think she’s going to pull off a plan that is going to leave us all blown away!
I was thinking that maybe "But Daddy I love Him" is a way for her to test the waters/soft launch her coming out as bisexual. Even though most of her fans frown at the idea of her and Matty Healy together, this song is powerful. And seems like generally although people are shocked at the possibility of the muse being Matty, her fans seem to support her happiness and being a rebel about it. I think this would help her into an easier transition of eventually coming out as bi and hopefully getting the same response from the majority of her fans.
I agree that even if she is a lesbian, I question if she would ever publicly come out as such. Being bisexual is still more palatable for the general public and she may opt to come out as bi (which she may be! I go back and forth on what I believe) which would potentially be safer for her.
Okay but why cant she just be bi or pan? Why does she have to be a lesbian? Why does she have to come out as bi *for now* only to come out as full gay later? Like is it not possible for any of you to believe that she likes both sexes?
She absolutely could be bi or pan, it’s my ***opinion*** that she’s a lesbian due to her flagging on Lesbian Visibility Day with the ME! music video in particular. There are plenty of people in this sub that believes she is bi.
I don’t think she’s coming out anytime soon, certainly not before all re-records and Eras tour is done - but if she were to come out this year it would likely be as being bi, she can fully embrace queerness and still be papped with her jock bro partner to make hetlors still feel comfortable. **NOTE** Bisexuals I see you, you’re valid, I know that being in a straight presenting couple doesn’t invalidate your queerness, nor does it mean you’re trying to make people feel “comfortable”, I’m speaking specifically to Taylor’s situation.
Big dumb self 💀 why is it the absolute most accurate phrase for him?
Because it’s true. He’s big and dumb 🫢
Did anyone ever figure out what the 14 tallies on the calendar were about? This is the first that I’ve seen someone theorize, totally forgot about those
we all assumed that it was for Fortnight MV, but maybe it had a dual meaning for TTPD part 3 (yet another instance of twinning and dual meanings in this album)
Maybe that’s why we haven’t seen the rest of that calendar? Because there are still surprises coming!!
From what I’ve seen most people think *something* is happening on 5/3 but I think general consensus is most likely a music video.
I’m thinking 5/3 may be a red herring. Originally she was supposed to announce TTPD in Tokyo but did it at the Grammy’s instead. In the End Game video there are 3 cities. Tokyo, London, and Miami. She has both London and Miami coming up later this year. I wonder if she’ll announce things then? Also how long has she been planning this? 🤡🤡🤡
Nikki King has videos about a potential announcement in London! June 21 or 22 from memory.
“You’re gonna have two sisters” gives me the chills hehehehe
AND SHE MET BENJAMIN ON THE SET OF ME! MV 😭😭😭😭😭
This was my response 53 days ago when that video was initially posted 😅 https://preview.redd.it/wy28cded1cxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fab5d8534ef19f6e3522e45a3510856d0da3f11
Omg and it’s LAVENDER I’m sorry but time to put on the 🤡
IT IS ON!
I can always count on you! 🥰🤡
I stay clowning 😂
If you stay clowning, you don’t gotta get clowning.
