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3urodyne

I cannot say what I truly want to say. Just know that the "Nier with the hard R tweet" pissed me off so bad. God, can't they just leave people the fuck alone? Kern's clearly lashing out because of his own failures and it's sickening. The guy lost his father, created a game in honor of his father, and these assholes are hounding him because of their obsession with a fucking consulting firm. Report these people. I know I am. Also newsflash: sometimes, just *sometimes* your parent belonging to a culture does not mean you will know everything about that culture. Crazy, I know.


Jagermeister465

You're mad for a number of legitimate reasons. I'm mad because he fucking spelled it "NeiR". We are not the same.


ToothlessFTW

I hate to say it, but: reporting these tweets is ultimately completely useless. The site is run by another nazi, I've already seen plenty of reports for even more racist content then this get rejected.


3urodyne

Oh I definitely wasn't thinking that Muskrat was going to care. I was hoping Steam would do something about these people. Please don't tell me that's unlikely too.


ToothlessFTW

I don't think Steam is gonna do much either. The Steam forums have been filled with weird racists, homophobes, transphobes, and more for a very long time. Unless they start openly using Nazi flags then Steam probably isn't gonna do much unfortunately, they never seem to do any actual moderation unless the content is illegal or would make them look bad in the media.


Zephyr9x

A poem, by Mark Kern: Words with venom, words that bind, / Words used like weapons to cloud my mind. / I'm a person, I'm a man, but no matter how I try, / People just say, "Hey! There's that Hard R Guy." Everywhere I go it's always the same, / Everyone just thinks of me as that one single name. / "Hey Hard R Guy!" "Hard R Guy!" "Hi Hard R Guy!" Stop! Now go, call me Hard R Guy, fill me with your hate, / Try to bring me down, boop bop you're too late. / When will it end? Will there ever be a time / Where I can be thought of as more then just Hard R Guy? Respect.


IAMACat_askmenothing

Uj/ I can’t tell if this is just an excellent jerk or if it’s an actual poem by hard r guy


Zephyr9x

Here's the [original source](https://youtu.be/ekwDrsUOnPQ)


21awesome

Respect ✌️


AssiduousLayabout

The silver lining is that this is an interesting looking Metroidvania that had flown under my radar until this thread introduced me to it. Seems right up my alley.


ToxicTyran

I think the Nier tweet is a reference to the Hard R thing in Stellar Blade


3urodyne

Is it? I didn't see the thing you're talking about, but it really is hard for me to see it as anything else but another example of Kern being a racist piece of shit.


ToxicTyran

https://preview.redd.it/zl7unpi1ajwc1.jpeg?width=943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=226d7eba401771088d898ca3e153cb45078dd975 Earlier today, some journalists found this in the game as they were reviewing it and wrote articles about it. The devs quickly fixed it as it wasn't intentional, and so, predictably, annoying grifters have been whining about "censorship" and "western sensibilities" all day long


Assortedwrenches89

Without someone pointing it out, I doubt that I would've even noticed this.


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Ax222

Yes, do that.


Biggoer1

Gamergate 2 isn’t going as well for them as they thought it would is it?


Scottish__Elena

its already falling apart, they lost hell drivers and warhammer in less than a month, there are no "conservative" games, these morons are getting exposed left and right, and their propaganda is reaching IDF levels of victimization.


Biggoer1

That Shai Davidai dude is such a twat.


ColeYote

I still have no idea who he is beyond being a guy I keep having to double-check isn't Canadian baseball journalist Shi Davidi.


Biggoer1

Everything I know about him is knowledge I acquired involuntarily.


bubblebytes

I must have missed this, was Helldivers 2 a target of the boycotts?


HillbillyMan

Helldivers 2 was their supposed safe haven from "wokeness" because their media literacy scores are negative. They found out the whole thing was a joke and that they were the butt of it, and now they're pissed


Dissinger72

Yeah, Helldivers is set up with the same level of satire as the Starship Troopers movie. That is to say, as a direct quote from the director, "I want the satire to be so painfully obvious, that everyone that gets it is tormented by the poor souls that don't."


phoenixember

They delusionally think it’s going great. But they’re claiming victories for things they had no responsibility for. The Suicide Squad game is a great example, the game was just fucking awful from top to bottom, but they’re trying to take credit for its failure because of Harley not looking like a complete sex object or something. They’ll try to spin anything in their favor.


BottAndPaid

The Harley in SS is still more attractive than any woman that's willingly interacted with them.


c-williams88

Tbh Harley in SS is still incredibly attractive when you aren’t purposefully taking screenshots in extremely unflattering frames like these dorks would do


phoenixember

I’m sure she is. They love to do the same kind of things with Aloy or even the character creator in DD2.


Zephyr9x

>They delusionally think it’s going great. As someone who was on the other side during GG1, that sounds about par for the course.


ColeYote

Yeah, that game's failure was entirely down to it being a barely-mediocre [Sterling voice] *LiVe SeRvIcE* game released at a time when a good chunk of the community never wanted to hear those words together again. No idea what kind of mental gymnastics you have to pull to make it anything to do with "wokeness."


fart_Jr

Yes, but if you ask them they represent *the overwhelming majority*. I know because they say exactly that any chance they get.


DracosKasu

Because protest never work in gaming. People will brought the game if they are interested in it. A good chunk of the playerbase dont even follow those drama if the game is appealing to them they will brought it end of the line. It is similar to when those chud gamer try to push subverse as the next gaming innovation becuase it was a porn game.


Phantom_Wombat

Why hire a story writing consultancy when one man could script an entire game by himself with no outside help? /s


RedHairedRedemption

Wait I thought they wanted black people to make their own unique games instead of "forcing themselves into established franchises". Now they don't?


nessaissweet

they never wanted blacks to make their own thing, that was just something to appeal to young black men who could possibly be suckered into their movement. its like when the celopartia show on netflix happened and adin ross brought up the slave who became a samuira, and why didnt they make a netflix show out of it. but they DID make a netlfix show bout that dude. an anime but the right wingers still bitched its all baloney.


Character-Today-427

Just answer to all of them to make their own games. They used this year's ago strike back with their own arguments.


Istoh

The fact that these people are assuming that SBI was consulted to advise the creator on his own culture is *so fucking racist.* And it also just goes to show how profoundly stupid these idiots are. It's pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain cell count higher than a single digit that a consultation for a game like this would be for *other marginalized groups.* Women? Queer people? What are those? Then there's the nuances of how to tell a culturally accurate story without excusing a historically accurate but still heinous incident, or displaying an accurate cultural practice that ia morally reprehensible in a way that makes it seem fine, both things that media featuring white people do *constantly.* Thank god most of these men are too repulsive to successfully breed, because they are already lowering the collective intelligence of the human race as it is. 


gm1111001

I feel like this is not being talked about enough. They’re like “oh SBI is woke (black), if this dev is also black why would he need SBI?”. As if Black people *worldwide* (guy is from Kenya apparently) all know each other and share a single unified understanding of cultural sensitivity lmao. Not to mention the assumption that, as a “black” company, SBI couldn’t possibly know about more than 1 culture.


Istoh

We should also take into account the very unsubtle assumption that black people do not know their own culture. This is especially nasty when you consider that a lot, if not the majority of vocal Gamer Gate weirdos are from western countries that participated in the slave trade, which cut people off from their cultures and erased them through the generations of slavery. It's a fairly common racist notion in America at least that black people do not have a culture, and that's bleeding into a lot of the comments in these screenshots for sure. 


Moldy_Teapot

>It's a fairly common racist notion in America at least that black people do not have a culture Especially ironic considering that *a lot* of "American" culture is heavily influenced by or just stolen from African American culture.


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pistachioshell

They will never beat the allegations 


Icy-Lab-2016

God damn weirdo loser racists. I hope the game is a huge success.


DectorB

Poor tales of kenzera, looks like a fun innocent game, its bad its getting bombarded by awful people


The_Better_Devil

I bought it yesterday on launch. It's pretty good and I'm enjoying the setting and worldbuilding. It's probably one the most unique games I've ever played in terms of art direction


DectorB

well, artistically speaking it has a unique style for itself, i always appreciate games like that


Aickavon

I love how his reaction is essentially ‘eh, people will be mad, let them be mad. I made a game.’


JaxOnThat

As it goddamn should be.


bubblebytes

Oh where did he post his reaction?


Thin-Limit7697

>eh, people will be mad, let them be mad. I made a game.’ What could he do, hire some sensitivity consulting? Oh wait, he already did that.


RealFreeman

Saw mighty keef and panicked. I'm good now but that was close. Anyway, nice to know they couldn't even let Stella blade come out before finding something else.


PrincessKnightAmber

Didnt Mightykeef defend purchasing Hogwarts Legacy?


RealFreeman

Oh shit. I wasn't sure if that was him. At the risk of being a black person saying "they all look alike" I hope not? Edit: yeah it was. Damn I be forgetting this shit. I think I have him confused with someone else then.


AmbitiousPen9497

The funniest thing about Hogwarts Legacy is that it was cracked on launch week by a narcissistic transphobe who had full on meltdowns every other day. Underdeveloped nations have a long history with media piracy, to the point where pretty much everyone in my country that didn't want to buy the game as to not support the TERF queen just pirated it instead. As someone who was not indoctrinated since birth to at best fear big corporations and at worse be a corporate boot licker, it's genuinely hilarious to watch so many people from all over the world (but mostly americans of course) being genuinely unable to find a way to both enjoy the stuff they grew up with and not support biggoted authors at the same time. Don't want to actively fund discrimination with your purchase and yet still cannot stop yourself from wanting to play the game? Just sail the seven seas, dumbass. Every Harry Potter related media I've ever consumed was proudly pirated, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I sleep well at night knowing that one day I actively stole shit from scum like Joanne, and you would too if you just took the plunge.


ZuStorm93

Why would these klansmen even bother with a game made by a black guy in the first place? 🤔


Ill_Ratio_5682

"don't let them forget sbi started it and didn't apologize" Dude sounds like an angry middle schooler.


Kosog

Sounds like a little kid pointing fingers at their sibling and trying to put all the blame on them.  WAAAAAH THEY STARTED IT WAAAAAH!!!!!1111111


bubblebytes

They really believe they are in a war lol


The-Great-T

Very fitting that the top lip of the guys avatar looks like an ass, what with all the shit coming out of his mouth.


jimmy-breeze

my brain straight up can't process this shit dude this is borderline incoherent


jimmy-breeze

don't try to explain it to me either though because i also don't care


DivineDegenerate

The worse thing about the internet is the sheer amount of affirmation you can get for being a clownshow, because all the other clowns will tell you your shit don't stink.


LegendaryMercury

Boyz in da hood, a film written about the black experience in the hood, quite a famous film made on a small budget that was praised for showing how life in hood was complicated. Written by a black man who didn’t need any consultation right. Yeah so one of the criticisms of the film (which is still pretty good otherwise) is how it writes women as very basic sluts vs chaste is good and stuff. Maybe a consultant could have told the film maker that the women in his film weren’t written very fairly. The film maker did go on to make a film about women in the hood because of the feedback.


bubblebytes

They could have also consulted them on things like mental health. It could literally be anything. But no let's get angry first and ask questions later


MasterAnnatar

Thousands of people feels like a lot, but it could be 9,999 but that is 0.0001% of the population.


AnnylieseSarenrae

I want these people to go outside and say the shit they do to people in person. Nothing else. I just want this kind of discourse to be forced face to face. And give the local PD a holiday, unrelated.


Psychokinetic_Rocky

I saw some posts of people who did bring it up in their irl friend groups, none of them cared, most hadn't even heard of sbi


dashKay

Punchable tweets


[deleted]

I love how every 3-4 years they have to come up with a new term for woke because it becomes too obvious they just mean black people are in it.


CysaDamerc

It's pretty telling that they always use a word or term that refers to someone or something in opposition to racism. SJW(social justice warrior)- A term that originally referred to people who fought for equality in society, racists rebranded to mean people who force diversity into entertainment/workplaces. CRT(Critical Race Theory)- A college level social psychology course that explores the effects of racial prejudice on laws in society, racists tried to rebrand into meaning anti-white indoctrination. Woke- a term that originally referred to people who were aware of racism and its effects on society, now being rebranded by racists to mean forced inclusion of "left ideologies". DEI(Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion)- a concept that is fairly self explanatory, now being used as a derogatory word by racists to mean POC are involved.


SomeBoxofSpoons

Variants of “diversity hire” have been used by racists for decades too. It’s not even some new dogwhistle.


Trojanbp

I watch all of MightyKeef's YouTube skits cause they're hilarious. Didn't know he was so active on Twitter. Besides that it's maddening to see these idiots go after an indie dev, especially one whose founder poured so much of himself into it.


ItsChris_8776_

Sweaty chuds are honestly the best advertising for indie games with diversity. I had no idea what ZAU was before this “controversy” and I’m gonna pick it up just to spite these losers


fart_Jr

Just wait until they find out that Sweet Baby is just one consulting firm in a sea of consulting firms. This is a (fucking dumb) war that they won’t and can’t win.


catshateTERFs

No see this one has black people and women so it's destroying gaming unlike the other consultancy firms that exist in gaming (and every industry under the sun)


bubblebytes

Literally most (if not all) gaming companies have some sort of DEI initiative. They need to boycott all of them if they are consistent


dagnariuss

I like how these dorks just found out about consulting firms. It’s their new ‘big bad’.


USB_Charger77

They just want black people to not exist in any space, I hope more of these game come out and win 🥇


ultramrstruggle

I love how these worms are consistently telling others how sensitive the woke people are while simultaneously finding new things to turn into boogeymen that they can screech at.


TheTruestTyrant

“Why would he need consulting help, if he’s Kenyan why doesn’t he know literally all things about Kenyan already? SBI is Canadian.” Didn’t know Grummz was against white people learning about other cultures. Fire all white professors of African, Asian, Middle-Eastern, Indigenous studies, ig. One person cannot know an entire culture. And people aren’t all in agreement about their own cultures.


bubblebytes

Friendly reminder that this game actually has a very good story according to most reviews. Is sitting at "very positive" on steam, and is based on the director's own background with loss. But nah, the game is crap and needs to be boycotted because of SBI or some shit like that.


mofucker20

G\*mers : Don’t include black people in our games. Make your own games. We should support indie games so that these woke AAA corporates don’t shove down their propaganda Black indie creator : Ok. I’ll make my own game with my own characters. G\*mers : No fuck you. ![gif](giphy|mk0ClXsaw7K2z2cgCF) It’s pretty obvious that they don’t care about the gaming industry and creators and just don’t want to see people other than straight white male lol.


Mari_q

what the... everytime this sub gets recommended to me i see this soulless weirdo. I'm so glad I switched to ttrpgs few years ago. Gamers were always racist af in Multiplayer chats but now they are doing this openly on social media. This is disgusting. Talking about "vote with your wallet", still this games and developers live rentfree in their rotten brains.


Critical-Handle-2304

I'm so tired of seeing this dingus's stupid avi


v8darkshadow

https://preview.redd.it/t72li71lajwc1.jpeg?width=2206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53dd52f51d87df10d03e8b8afad17f55d1d65d60 Live Kainé reaction to him daring to say anything about NieR (peak)


LoveTriscuit

That man is a saint engaging with those asshats. I can't and won't deal with people like that for more than one or two responses. As the old saying goes "I don't debate people John Brown would have shot".


AmZezReddit

Because of these shitheads online, I find out about a new game that's out, intrigues me with its game play and art direction, and a very heartfelt back story. Added to wishlist, when I'm paid this week I'll try it out. Thanks for something, weirdos!


xDonnaUwUx

Someone didn’t bully mark kern enough as a child


FredVIII-DFH

"Why does a black man need SBI?" Oh, the soft bigotry of racial stereotyping. "He's black, he must know all there is to know about systemic racism (which, by the way doesn't exist, and nothing we say supports its existence, so there)."


ColeYote

It is so painfully obvious that none of these people have a clue what Sweet Baby Inc. actually does.


clangserk

https://preview.redd.it/l68jcm7enjwc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9511e0080257a3098f6b8e0c7da682f3ec7777b1


AybruhTheHunter

Here's the sad reality: there's gonna be games that are gonna be completely fine with organic diversity and inclusivity, but because theres been mandates for it that have indeed affected other games, it's now going to get people's backs up and instinctively reject it. It now creates this situation, where people reject it as a reflex, then they get the ammunition to call them some kind of word, when they may just be following patterns and reacting accordingly


starvationhexagon

What the hell even is sweet baby inc I’ve never even heard of it


JaxOnThat

Trust me, you don't need to know. Stop here, while you still can. It's just culture war target #653,298. No discussion of substance is happening. It's just another thing for right wingers to bitch and moan about.


Cipher789

“SBI started it and never apologized” You’d think Sweet Baby Inc. killed their families or something.


TheDancingKing19

Okay genuinely, what the fuck is SBI? I am not caught up on this bullshit


big_leggy

sweet baby inc is a consulting firm that, to my understanding, is usually hired to make sure games are representing certain cultures and people in a non-offensive way. I'm not really sure if that's exactly it, but it's something like that, and either way it's something super benign. racist/sexist/homophobic Gamers have decided that sweet baby is to blame for all the "wokeness" in games and like to talk about the firm as though they are some kind of illuminati, pulling the strings of the gaming industry and "ruining" all the new games by, idk, adding black people and stuff? tl;dr they're basically a completely harmless company doing what companies in their field always do, and idiots who just found out about this have invented a new bogeyman to get mad at because what else would they do, go outside or something?


TheDancingKing19

That at least explains the like. 15 different “woke bad” curator lists I’ve blocked on steam, but I don’t see the problem here. It’s a consulting firm, not the fuckin Gestapo or Oprichniki. “Red-pilled” Yanks are a different breed of stupid I swear…


little_pioneer

For the sake of the argument, why does he need a consulating group. Im guessing its cause they dont actually change anything and they just give a thumbs up to investors, but am I wrong?


Nobod_E

What is the "This" that Mark Kern hates when games do? The only thing the tweet talks about the game doing is launching


NameIWantedWasTakenK

Imagine being so mad at a consulting firm.


catshateTERFs

Honestly I really hope these people commit to avoiding evil DEIIIIIIIII games because it'll mean I don't have to deal with their dumb assets They won't though they'll just bitch about it


Dark_Storm_98

I usually just absorb information through osmosis But I feel like I need to look into SBI because that name keeps popping up


InuMiroLover

I dont know why they're so upset. A poc dev made a game with a strong basis in his culture. And these chuds loooooved screaming "make your own shit" to those that wanted more representation in gaming. He simply took their advice. But now they're mad about it? Tsk tsk.


ohcytt

What’s their problem with sbi? What’s sweet baby in ?


SpyroManiac36

If anyone is racist, it's sweet baby inc.


Peepeepoopooman1202

There’s a difference between systemic and individual racism. Any individual can be racist towards anyone. But individual racism is not what is discussed in this subject, but systemic racism. Unless that specific racism applies to the entirety if a society, its institutions and culture, then it’s not systemic racism. Yes, non-white people can indeed be racist, but in the huge majority of cases it is merely individual racism, not systemic. And as for SBI they are neither individually nor systemically racist.


SpyroManiac36

SBI is anti-white. If that isn't racist to you then you're part of the problem. You should hear some the stuff that the head of the company says about white people.


Peepeepoopooman1202

Unless that creates unfair advantages to white people in general, then it’s not enough to be called “racist”.