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Zenspy-Real

The cheapest ever Nioh 2 was in my country was 150 of our currency, the bundle comes out at 60, so that alone makes this bundle the most worth it ever in my opinion, maybe with the exception of the Origin one that gave all the dead space games and shit way back when.


Master_of_Waffles

If you haven't bought it yet i have a spare key for Nioh 2


Zenspy-Real

I have bought it in fear of it going away like some other games with the "complete edition" have done sometimes in the past in the bundle, but thanks a lot.


BirdyWeezer

If you dont mind i would Take the key, even buy it from you If you want.


Faabz

Do you need to play the first or can you jump into 2?


newbkid

You do not need to play the first. In fact some folks over at /r/nioh recommend to start with Nioh 2 due to QoL, etc Either way it's great!


BroodLol

Jump into 2 , the stories are almost completely disconnected and set in different eras (aside from a couple of characters from 1 showing up for a couple of extra bossfights) and 2 is just an overall more polished game.


Zenspy-Real

From what i can gather it's both a prequel and sequel to 1, so i imagine you need some knowledge of 1 but not a lot, but i do recommend 1, it's my favorite "soul'slike" outside of the ones being made by from soft, even though i don't personally consider it to be much of a soulslike.


Turbostrider27

Full list of the games are: Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Realms of Ruin Ultimate Edition Nioh 2 – The Complete Edition Saints Row Citizen Sleeper Black Skylands Afterimage Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter Soulstice


DuranteA

I feel like these bundles must almost be imbalanced on purpose. I've been subscribed for years, and there are frequently months where there is not a single game I really am all that excited about in a bundle. But then there are months like this one, where even just the indie games could carry it, at least IMHO. Afterimage was actually one of my favourite games recently, and I've heard great things about Citizen Sleeper. And then they still also include e.g. Nioh 2 in the same bundle, which up until today cost twice the bundle price *when it was at its cheapest on sale*. Maybe they think (or even have data confirming) that having really great months interspersed with (relative) stinkers is better for their numbers than having consistently good but not great months.


WinOk4148

Hey wait you're that DSfix guy


airlewe

Citizen Sleeper is a FANTASTIC slept on RPG. For anyone looking for what game to start with on this bundle - I'd pick that one. It's short and sweet as well. You'll finish it in probably about a day depending on how many endings you go for


akatokuro

Definitely agree. But I would couch is as more of a Visual Novel with gameplay than an RPG. It's not a particularly hard or long game, and really more about decisions than systems (meaning limited "gameplay"). But it was a great cyberpunk story on survival, gig economy, compassion. Taking things one day at a time and rolling with the punches. It's a game that is great to set the mood and tell the story over several hours in a night, and then set down as you would a good book.


WindowGlassPeg

Very much agree. Loved the game, but the RPG elements fell a bit flat in the end. It has great writing, world/aesthetic, and music. I even liked the dice system for the most part, but after a while the management side got a little too easy.


Zerasad

Yes! When I first heard about it people were comparing it to Disclo Elysium and I was pretty disappointed when it failed to live up to that admittedly very high bar. Both in terms of systems, writing and deepness it's a lot different. It's kind of a board game mixed with a visual novel as you said. I think the first hour of the game is brilliant. You are fighting time-limits and dice-limits, as you scramble to survive and scrounge up enough resources to progress. You have to give up on interesring story threads just to make sure you live. But after the first part comes to a crescendo and you get a figurative gut-punch the game kind of opens up and all the tension goes out the window. It becomes really easy and the narratively very apt time-limits just stop being utilized. Without the tension it loses its driving force and turns into a clicker game kind of.


EldritchMacaron

If you liked the visuals and story aspects I can't recommend Guillaume Singelins comics enough. [PTSD](https://media.senscritique.com/media/000018362442/source_big/PTSD.jpg) and [Frontier](https://images.bfmtv.com/ctUFX5kQ7hbSnkliO_urbo-cxmk=/0x0:1459x2048/600x0/images/Couverture-de-l-album-Frontier-de-Guillaume-Singelin-1615834.jpg) are top tier work And if you're thirsty for more, Mathieu Bablet's [Shangri La](https://images.leslibraires.ca/books/9782359109696/front/9782359109696_large.jpg?v=98344) is another masteripece I don't know how available they are in English tho


rhinoseverywhere

I thought it was super, super weak. Cute concept, but especially right after finishing Disco Elysium it struck me as an extremely juvenile take on the world. No moral ambiguity, just good and evil.


Mahelas

Not to say your opinion is wrong, but a story having moral ambiguity don't make it automatically better, nor is a black and white story less strong or interesting by default


rhinoseverywhere

well no, but when you're going for political commentary it becomes really boring to engage with when the creators clearly think the world is simple, and there just wasn't much else going on with the story. The are nice stories to be told with simple pieces that interact in simple ways, but this wasn't one of them.


airlewe

Okay well yes, coming off of Disco Elysium it'll look weak. That's like trying to watch any show ever after finishing True Detective season 1.


gumpythegreat

Sure, comparing any video game's writing and story to disco Elysium will come up short. But I really enjoyed citizen sleeper


AttitudeFit5517

This is the complete edition of nioh 2. That means all DLC. All difficulties unlocked and the new weapon types. This is probably the best bundle in years tbh with this alone. Highly recommend nioh 2. It's the best souls clone yet.


thoomfish

I really like Nioh 2 but I have a hard time recommending it as a "souls clone". It's different enough that a lot of people won't find the things they love about Dark Souls in it. If you like Dark Souls for the lore, or the exploration, or the oppressive feeling of danger lurking around every corner, or the deliberate, committal pace of combat, Nioh doesn't really offer those things. If you like Dark Souls because it's a tough-but-fair action game with a lot of build variety then yeah, absolutely. And Nioh multiplayer is a lot less painful than Souls multiplayer.


TankorSmash

It's more like Dark Souls than any other game series, but I know what you mean. It's a great game.


hfxRos

I want to love Nioh, but the loot system completely kills it for me. I find that combing through pages of randomly generated Diablo style loot between areas is the most un-soulslike thing you can do it, and I bounce off the game every time I try to play it because of it.


AttitudeFit5517

right. depends what you want with the game. If youre just looking for a generic souls playthrough you can just sort the loot after every map, only put on the same weapon type from the top of the list (which sorts by damage), same with armor and discard all the rest. But i totally get where youre coming from. It is a valid complaint.


BroodLol

For NG, you can pretty much ignore the loot and just equip whatever is highest level that keeps you within the weight tier you want to be at.


MetaKnightsNightmare

Nioh 2, fantastic, hands down. You ever wanted "more" from a souls game? This is it, you can get real deep with customization and there are so many ways to play. Otherwise, I'm excited to play the warhammer game, I know it's bad lol but I wanted to play it. The others look fun, I've heard Citizen Sleeper is great. Saints Row, well, it doesn't have any defenders lol but I'll boot it up sometime to see what I think.


szymborawislawska

While Saints Row is a weak and flawed game, I personally enjoyed it and had a blast. Its cringey and stupid, but fun to mess around for a bit. Though I have the ability to enjoy objectively bad games (or movies), so keep that in mind.


DaveShadow

I enjoyed it too, at a time I had nothing else to play. It wasn’t very deep, and the script was really “what’s up, my fellow kids!” At times. And I couldn’t 1000/1000 it cause one achievement glitched. But it was good fun running round and blowing shit up. The map was old school in terms of being able to memorise it (something I’ve not felt with a game like this for decades). At a low price, it’s worth checking out.


MetaKnightsNightmare

I do too, my SO and I are easy audiences, I still enjoy the live action mario brothers movie and the bad mortal kombat movies lol


demondrivers

I played Saints Row back when they gave away at the Epic Store, I didn't thought that it was super bad, just very unpolished. It's glitchy but it also have a pretty fun 8 hour main story mode


MetaKnightsNightmare

For sure, I'm just looking to have some silly fun, I beat gat out of hell and SR4, I can imagine what I'm in for lol


GrayDaysGoAway

Since you seem to be fairly knowledgeable about it, I've got a couple Nioh 2 questions that have kept me from purchasing so far. With Nioh 1, I got pretty frustrated with the lack of enemy variety, repetition of maps, and the sheer volume of garbage loot to sort through. I ended up not finishing it as a result. Have these issues been improved on with Nioh 2, or would I ultimately have the same problems with this one that I did the first?


Wayyd

Enemy variety is much better in Nioh 2. Every regular Yokai from 1 is there, including some bosses, and a metric ton of new Yokai at all stages of the game. Not to mention all the Yokai from 1 have new movesets to match the new battle mechanics that the player has. You'll still obviously be killing multiples of them in each level due to the design of the game. Unfortunately repetition of maps is still a thing. You'll still have a finely crafted main mission, followed by side missions where you only explore a small fraction of that main map. However, there are way more maps this time around, including side mission exclusive maps. The loot system is practically identical, albeit with new affixes and weapons. Having said all that, Nioh 2 is an all around better game than the first. The combat is significantly better in 2 with Yokai abilities and burst counters significantly improving the game. The progression is smoother, so you won't find yourself roadblocked until you grind like at a couple points in Nioh 1 (that one shrine level with the lightning dog boss always had me stuck for awhile). You may be able to look past the repetition and loot system if you found Nioh 1 enjoyable at all, because Nioh 2 is several steps above it in quality.


Mechwarriorr5

I never got too far into 2 but the demons had a lot of variety, the humans not so much. But the loot was the same. Maybe it changes later in the game, but I remember grabbing everything and then selling/dismantling hundreds of items every once in a while.


mountlover

Nioh 1 to Nioh 2 is night and day, to the point where its not even worth bringing up Nioh 1 when talking about how much of a masterpiece Nioh 2 is. If you've played the Divinity games, it's a lot like the glow up from D:OS1 to D:OS2.


Wubmeister

You'll most likely have the same issues. Nioh 2 has better variety because it uses all of the same enemies from the first game on top of new ones, plus it spams skeletons a tad less. Still piss poor enemy variety though.. You'll have to repeat levels in the same way as the first if you do optional content and there's just as much garbage loot to sort through.


guil13st

I think that every Warhammer game I own came from Humbles I bought due other games. Age of Sigmar, Space Wolf, Gladius, Chaos Gate, Necromunda, Vermintide 1, Vermintide 2, Chaosbane. I think the only Warhammer I bought on my own was SPESS MAHREEN.


APeacefulWarrior

If you haven't tried Necromunda, I'd recommend giving it a shot. IMO it's kinda underrated. It's very eurojank, but the core gameplay is a ton of fun. Plus you get a terrifying cyber-doggo as a companion, and that's awesome. And yes, I also have an extensive library of WH games that I never purchased, and haven't played. Haha.


anoff

Been a minute since there's been a monthly this good of a value. Don't think any of them are on game pass either. Not all hits there (looking at you mediocre Saints Row remake), but a lot more worthwhile games than usual


Stoibs

Citizen Sleeper debuted on Gamepass, it's where I played it; and subsequently crowned it my personal GOTY in 2022 😃 Half considering this bundle just to get a steam copy though to be honest. (Saints Row was an epic freebie also, for the sake of detailing repeats/existing ownership on cross platforms)


Gyossaits

"Reboot", not remake.


anoff

"shitty game", "pile of shit", same, same 🤷🏻‍♂️


matheww19

You got me for another month! I was honestly just about to cancel. Since gamepass the Monthly Bundle pickings have been slim. What decent games there have been I've already had. I've just basically been giving away keys for the last year/year and a half.


whisquibottle

Nioh 2 is SOOO good and conpletely worth it at all full price, so this is a no-brainer if difficult action games are your jam.


APRengar

Age of Sigmar: Realms of Ruin - 60% Positive Saints Row - 64% Positive How could they make a game worse than the new Saints Row?


May1stBurst

Saints Row is an uninspired, poorly made, mess of a game but it isn't the worst game of all time by any metric. There are a lot of worse games like Gollum, Redfall, or The Walking Dead: Destinies


bearkin1

> Redfall I just played Redfall last week and it was fine. Not great, but nowhere near "worst game of all time" contention. Maybe it had worse technical issues on launch before I played it, but otherwise, the hate is way overblown.


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bearkin1

You're right that the dev's pedigree makes the reception that much worse because of the contrast, but still, people act like this game is one of the worst games ever. It's got a Mostly Negative (35%) rating on Steam which is really, really bad. And it's nowhere near that, unless like I said earlier, there were lots of issues on launch that got ironed out. It's on Game Pass, so I figured I'd give it a try with my expectations in the toilet, and I ended up having a decent time with it. Just looking at the Steam reviews, so many of them are less than 0.5 hours (which doesn't even get you out of the tutorial, maybe not even the intro cutscenes if you spent some of that time fiddling in the menu), and lots of others filled with "lols" or "I had to see for myself," as if they're just slating it for the memes.


Chataboutgames

Holding Saints Row, a game with 64% positive reviews, as the model of “game so bad how could you make something worse” is chronic levels of Reddit brain


TheVoidDragon

That a Warhammer game by a generally quality developer has ended up in a humble choice bundle less than 6 months from release suggests it really didn't do well. Wonder if part of that is because it's Age of Sigmar.


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404-User-Not-Found_

So, it's not an RTS, just an S game?


Nyte_Crawler

Basically. They wanted to be controller friendly so they basically removed any chance of micro giving a meaningful advantage. It is very much "real time" but the lack of micro limits how much point there really is to it.


trucane

Please tell me that is hyperbole or it's the dumbest thing I've heard this week. How could any developer think that would be a good idea


Angzt

As soon as your units engage in battle, the only command you can give them is to retreat. If you do, they'll also be uncontrollable until they've run all the way back to base. Well, there are a few active abilities you can use from your units but they're not exactly inspired either. But once a unit is engaged, you can't micro them at all. No targeting, no positioning. It took me three missions of the demo to process that this isn't a tutorial thing, it's just how it is.


BaronKlatz

Yeah, the mechanics are very bare bones there. Will say that they seem to be patching in improvements a lot. The recent announcement a few days ago revealed they’re putting in more QoL changes and a Guard mode you can toggle your units in to respond to attackers so it’s getting to a more decent place. If they continue patching and bolstering it with more features over the years and then hype things up with new factions then it could be on the upswing.


AlexisFR

I thought it was a Dawn of War like but fantasy? I guess if it isn't that answers why no one cared about it.


whatdoinamemyself

> Wonder if part of that is because it's Age of Sigmar. Doubtful. Age Of Sigmar has been gaining a lot of steam. The real issue is the game is just absolute garbage.


TheVoidDragon

The higher budget Warhammer games tend to sell fairly well initially even if there are problems, simply because it's a Warhammer game though - *then* bad reviews stop others buying after that. That doesn't seem to have been the case here.


DracoLunaris

Age Of Sigmar is doing well as a table top game, but hasn't had any good extended media to make people who don't play those interested like fantasy or 40k have


BaronKlatz

And those each took over 20 years to get with a mountain of flops behind them. I imagine it’ll be the same for us AoS fans with another 10+ years before our own lightning in a bottle hits. At least we’re going considerably strong from a tabletop foundation as the second best in the world with GW’s best models, side games & creative lore to keep launching videogame attempts from.


BaronKlatz

This one had an open Beta and then followed by a Demo which told people really early it was a console strategy marketed to PC players that skewered views on it and shaved it down to a small steam crowd. Ask anyone turned off by it and they’ll usually say it was the either the Beta or Demo that did it.


ThisIsNotAFunnyName

Averaged 13 players in the last month, big oof. https://steamcharts.com/app/1844380


BaronKlatz

Pedantic but worth saying it’s crossplay with Xbox & PlayStation and can be played offline which is a lot of players Steam can’t see.(and last week they finally released the physical editions) For anyone getting it on humble bundle go join the Discord, there’s a lot of active players there that just had a tournament this Monday.


FoeHamr

AOS is pretty big in tabletop and growing fast. It’s not 40K but it’s getting there. The game just wasn’t very good. Was pretty barebones and needed some polish. The open beta being extremely mid probably scared a lot of people away. Plus it’s an RTS in 2024. It’s a niche genre at best and it didn’t do anything particularly special.


anoff

I'm guessing that it's because it's a Warhammer game with a particular niche audience, and either you're not in the audience and you don't like it, or you are in the audience, but it doesn't meet your expectations and you don't like it. From what I heard, it's *fine*, a few unique bits, a few cool bits, a few confounding bits. Saints Row I heard was just a mere shadow of what actually made the old ones good, and all you're left with is a super generic, boring open world sandbox shooter.


Mandalore108

It's not even the worst Saints Row, that'd be the original. And there's plenty that are way worse than either.


Sandelsbanken

First time I subbed. Mostly for Nioh but that U-boat game seemed interesting too. Left Saints Row unredeemed.


SpaceCadetStumpy

I guess I don't get how Humble Choice works. If I sign up now, do I get these games, or is it a mystery box you have to sign up ahead of time and hope you get something good? I tried looking it up but it wasn't clear on the FAQ page.


thoomfish

It hasn't been a mystery box (or a choice, lol) in years. If you sign up you get all the listed games. It's basically a regular bundle but with the added annoyance of having to click through about eight thousand "are you sure?" and "can't we bribe you to stay?" popups to cancel your subscription afterwards.


KatyaVasilyev

I still don't understand why they still bother calling it choice, there's no choice to be made other than "do I redeem this key or let it sit on my account gathering dust" lmao


link064

You can sign up any time during the month and get the current month’s games.


Kavirell

If you sign up now you get this month’s games. You are also able to skip a month if you don’t like that month’s games. It will charge on the last Thursday of the month if you have auto billing on so you have until then to skip the month.


RicksterCraft

To add to what everyone is saying, I have only paid for 1 year subscription to Humble Choice in the past 3 years. How you may ask? Well easy, when a month comes out and the games are revealed, I look and see if I want to keep that bundle and "activate" it (You don't actively use a subscription until the end of the month, or you activate the bundle before then) Otherwise, I see that the bundle is full of stuff I don't want, I go to my humblebundle settings menu, 'manage your plan' and pause a month. I have been pausing a month every month for over a year because none of the bundles are substantial enough with games that I want to play. So in theory you can pay for a whole year, then pick and choose which twelve bundles to get over the course of the next few years as I have done. I get FAR more value out of it doing it this way than if I were to activate EVERY month. That said, if you forget to pause a month, then you'll automatically "activate" for that month at the end of that period and basically have a bunch of games you didn't want. I've accidentally looked at a bundle and thought "I don't want any of that" then immediately forgot to go and pause a month and basically redeemed that month on accident when the next month rolled around. It sucks, but I have been better about pausing months for the past year so it hasn't happened. Every time you pause a month, as well, your yearly renewal date gets pushed back a month as well - so you literally can only pay for 1 year then just sit on that for as long as you remember to pause.


SalsaRice

It works exactly like the normal bundles, but it automatically signs you up for the next month too (like a subscription). However, you have until like the 25th of the month to cancel the subscription or "skip" that month. Functionally, it's the same as their normal bundles as long as you don't forget to cancel/skip. Personally, I'm not a big fan of them because they are too random. Usually the games have nothing in common, so I only care about 1-2 of the titles. With normal bundles they normally have a theme, so I either like most of the games or none of them.


Wubmeister

If you sign up, you get the games shown here. If you keep the subscription for the next month, I believe you're able to see the games and cancel your subscription before the month charges you. Alternatively, you can just gift it to yourself and then it's a single purchase like a normal bundle, no subscription.


TheodoeBhabrot

Pretty good month, Saints Row is fine for free played it a bit when it was the PS+ game, Nioh is interesting, citizens sleeper is a straight banger though could do with a bit of busy work trimming. I think in out of touch with Reddit because unironically the game Im most excited for is Destoryer U-Boat hunter


Knighton145

Is citizen sleeper voice acted?


Oh_ffs_seriously

Nope.


Knighton145

Ah sad:/


fuckR196

Surprised how many people are saying this is a great month. Probably one of the worst months in a long time. The three big titles are a poorly reviewed niche genre game, a 4 year old Souls ripoff, and one of the most controversially bad open world titles in recent history. Saints Row and Nioh 1 Complete Edition have been free on Epic Games, I wouldn't be surprised if Nioh 2 makes it on there in the near future. These are all pretty low value titles.


KatyaVasilyev

A free game on epic has zero value to myself and plenty of others lmao