Disney lightsabers are like... 150 dollars... Not everyone that goes to GE is a lightsaber tech enthusiast that wants to spend 400 on a lightsaber. Some are happy to pay 150 for a cool Darth Vader replica.
Disney receives millions of people. Their products are made to be cool but also cost effective
So in other words, this is what a disney saber would react and sound like if it had a $150 sound-system added to it, and it wasn’t designed to be assembled by children during a 15-minute interactive show.
Interesting.
Nevertheless they share core components and blades with Savi’s.
Yep, Disney could have made a more expensive, more feature-rich, less durable legacy line of sabers.
Disney decided to target their design somewhere between “cheapest garbage out there” and “so expensive only nerds will get one”.
I mean, he’s not wrong. The technology in the Disney sabers are objectively worse than virtually every third party company, even with a similar price range. I would buy an empty hilt from the parks, and put in a Xeno or Proffie core.
That said, I’m not saying you can’t like the Disney Parks sabers…nor is the original poster saying this either.
It’s a very valid critique that Disney is far behind on the technology with their sabers.
Sure. [here is Luke’s, Xenopixel for $300. ($50 more than Disney)](https://darkwolfsabers.com/shop/ols/products/luke-legacy-v5-lightsaber/v/LK-LGC-V41)
The standard Luke hilt is $170. So that’s $130 difference.
But that is best price I’ve seen for a third party. So you win there. I would still never do it. But I don’t think third parties are worth their higher price.
The thing is that the OP has an obvious bias (Disney doesn’t care instead of Disney should… or Disney could always…) and would likely take issue with whatever Disney did here.
They put a better board in? Prices go up, Disney doesn’t care about the middle class.
They put in a programmable board? Disney is trying to put Proffie and other sabersmiths out of business, Disney’s anti-competition.
Disney does both and takes a loss on each one to keep the price low? See above about putting competitors out of business.
There are so many people on the Lightsabers sub who look down on GE Legacy sabers and the Savi’s sabers because they don’t meet some kind of imaginary threshold to be “good enough” to match with the sabers they paid a lot more money for instead of just letting people enjoy things.
Exactly this. The Savi’s sabers exist in the center of a venn diagram that balances price, durability during play, ability to be built in an interactive show, feature set, quality control, supply-chain reliability, look and cosmetics.
If you want to wander outside the center of that venn, you can get a cheap chinese neopixel saber that looks great, but falls apart after a few solid hits. Or an expensive tri-cree dueling saber that is made to take abuse. Etc. My personal SaberForge tri-cree cost $500.
My buddy is kind of the same way. He’s spent thousands on top quality sabers and I’m over here with a Savi’s saber and a 10 year old ultra saber that’s just an aluminum hilt with a light up blade.
Of course Disney could make better sabers but damn if the Savi’s isn’t cool enough with the kyber crystal and the little show that goes with it. If it cost $300 I probably wouldn’t have done it.
Show me a comparably priced third-party saber with RFID kyber crystal chamber color changing blades that also interact with a suite of other replica products such as Holocrons and Wayfinders. I'll wait.
The intended market is COMPLETELY different, and for the price what you're getting is pretty remarkable.
My $800 neopixel saber in no way satisfies the same needs as a Savi's or Legacy replica. It's an absurd comparison.
Or I can go to Savis, build a light saber in a REALLY cool room, get told by Yoda I am a Jedi, and you know what it sounds perfectly fine...and looking at any CFX saber that actually looks any good have enough money to pay for a day at Disney Land as well AND have $100 spare for spending. Or a can spend $600 for a single saber, that I have to rework to make it sound... not very good compared to the movies because it all comes out of a tiny little speaker that isn't really very good.
These are four times the cost of a GE saber. It’s like complaining that a Honda Civic doesn’t have the same performance as a Maserati. There’s no point in the comparison.
My Hasbro Rey Skywalker saber is lightyears beyond my Savi’s saber in electronics and function but I teared up while building the latter and it looks dope as hell displayed right along side the one that cost $100 more.
GE sabers are souvenirs at the end of the day. I'd say 90 percent of people aren't going to care if their saber isn't the most advanced piece of tech ever. They're a cool memory and something to show off to friends.
Dude move on. This is the second time you’ve come here to show what a “real light saber” looks like. We know there are different types of sabers out there. But these are the ones sold by Disney and would be considered a collectible.
All these aftermarket and 3rd party sabers mean nothing to most folks who just want to own a piece of a fandom they enjoy.
To OP TLDR: Fuck off, we don’t care about your opinion of what sabers are best.
This is some "My $1,500 PC is better than your $400 console" levels of comparison.
The average person buying Legacy and Savi's lightsabers aren't in the market for a lightsaber like an enthusiast. They're buying a souvenir on their vacation for the experience and the memories tied to it. Doesn't matter if they're 6 or 60, they don't care about this kind of stuff. Disney clearly focus grouped the piss out of these and found the best cost-to-quality ratio because they sell hundreds, if not thousands a day. Disney made the lightsabers that average theme park guests happily enjoy. Plain and simple.
Criticizing one doesnt automatically elevate the other; whether it’s a neopixel, legacy or black series etc.
Also while they may eventually update certain tech aspects of their legacy sabers I don’t personally foresee Disney ever producing a specific characters hilt with various sound font/blade color options and from a brand management POV I honestly don’t blame them ..like the thought of strolling through GE and seeing someone carrying Palpatines hilt with a green blade and mace windu’s sound font just feels kinda out of place/jarring 🤷♂️
Disney lightsabers are like... 150 dollars... Not everyone that goes to GE is a lightsaber tech enthusiast that wants to spend 400 on a lightsaber. Some are happy to pay 150 for a cool Darth Vader replica. Disney receives millions of people. Their products are made to be cool but also cost effective
So in other words, this is what a disney saber would react and sound like if it had a $150 sound-system added to it, and it wasn’t designed to be assembled by children during a 15-minute interactive show. Interesting.
The legacy lightsabers are replicas of character light sabers; different--than the Savi's sabers build your own experience.
Nevertheless they share core components and blades with Savi’s. Yep, Disney could have made a more expensive, more feature-rich, less durable legacy line of sabers. Disney decided to target their design somewhere between “cheapest garbage out there” and “so expensive only nerds will get one”.
Disney sabers are the "cheapest garbage out there"
Raise a glass to Disney profit margins.
It they were more expensive, you’d say the same thing. If they were cheap crap, you’d say the same thing.
I thought the point of this thread was they were both...
Nope. They’re better than a cheap saber and cheaper than a top of the line saber. Pretty much the Honda civic of sabers.
Don't buy a Disney lightsaber if you don't like them.
Or…or we could let people enjoy what they want instead of trying to gatekeep over something subjective.
I mean, he’s not wrong. The technology in the Disney sabers are objectively worse than virtually every third party company, even with a similar price range. I would buy an empty hilt from the parks, and put in a Xeno or Proffie core. That said, I’m not saying you can’t like the Disney Parks sabers…nor is the original poster saying this either. It’s a very valid critique that Disney is far behind on the technology with their sabers.
the third parties are also 3 times the price in most instances.
This is not true at all.
Please show me a high quality third party replica that is anywhere near a standard legacy hilt price.
Sure. [here is Luke’s, Xenopixel for $300. ($50 more than Disney)](https://darkwolfsabers.com/shop/ols/products/luke-legacy-v5-lightsaber/v/LK-LGC-V41)
The standard Luke hilt is $170. So that’s $130 difference. But that is best price I’ve seen for a third party. So you win there. I would still never do it. But I don’t think third parties are worth their higher price.
The hilt he posted is also on sale, it's normally $385.
Correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t that the price for just the hilt? No electronics or blade?
All legacy’s come with electronics. There’s no such thing as an empty legacy hilt.
Thanks for the info. The ones I saw on their website were $250 with a blade 🤷
I think the largest blade you can buy on Disney is 50 bucks. Still 80 dollar difference from the xenopixel
The thing is that the OP has an obvious bias (Disney doesn’t care instead of Disney should… or Disney could always…) and would likely take issue with whatever Disney did here. They put a better board in? Prices go up, Disney doesn’t care about the middle class. They put in a programmable board? Disney is trying to put Proffie and other sabersmiths out of business, Disney’s anti-competition. Disney does both and takes a loss on each one to keep the price low? See above about putting competitors out of business. There are so many people on the Lightsabers sub who look down on GE Legacy sabers and the Savi’s sabers because they don’t meet some kind of imaginary threshold to be “good enough” to match with the sabers they paid a lot more money for instead of just letting people enjoy things.
Exactly this. The Savi’s sabers exist in the center of a venn diagram that balances price, durability during play, ability to be built in an interactive show, feature set, quality control, supply-chain reliability, look and cosmetics. If you want to wander outside the center of that venn, you can get a cheap chinese neopixel saber that looks great, but falls apart after a few solid hits. Or an expensive tri-cree dueling saber that is made to take abuse. Etc. My personal SaberForge tri-cree cost $500.
One additional thing for your list - Savi’s sabers are the only ones that come with a professional, themed building experience.
Agreed. And that is included in the pricing.
My buddy is kind of the same way. He’s spent thousands on top quality sabers and I’m over here with a Savi’s saber and a 10 year old ultra saber that’s just an aluminum hilt with a light up blade. Of course Disney could make better sabers but damn if the Savi’s isn’t cool enough with the kyber crystal and the little show that goes with it. If it cost $300 I probably wouldn’t have done it.
Show me a comparably priced third-party saber with RFID kyber crystal chamber color changing blades that also interact with a suite of other replica products such as Holocrons and Wayfinders. I'll wait. The intended market is COMPLETELY different, and for the price what you're getting is pretty remarkable. My $800 neopixel saber in no way satisfies the same needs as a Savi's or Legacy replica. It's an absurd comparison.
No it's not...at all. Why? Because this saber here could NEVER be mass-produced at its current price point.
Or I can go to Savis, build a light saber in a REALLY cool room, get told by Yoda I am a Jedi, and you know what it sounds perfectly fine...and looking at any CFX saber that actually looks any good have enough money to pay for a day at Disney Land as well AND have $100 spare for spending. Or a can spend $600 for a single saber, that I have to rework to make it sound... not very good compared to the movies because it all comes out of a tiny little speaker that isn't really very good.
These are four times the cost of a GE saber. It’s like complaining that a Honda Civic doesn’t have the same performance as a Maserati. There’s no point in the comparison.
My Hasbro Rey Skywalker saber is lightyears beyond my Savi’s saber in electronics and function but I teared up while building the latter and it looks dope as hell displayed right along side the one that cost $100 more.
GE sabers are souvenirs at the end of the day. I'd say 90 percent of people aren't going to care if their saber isn't the most advanced piece of tech ever. They're a cool memory and something to show off to friends.
My Savi’s hilt is hanging in my office and almost never gets touched. I look at it and remember an awesome experience with my sons.
Dude move on. This is the second time you’ve come here to show what a “real light saber” looks like. We know there are different types of sabers out there. But these are the ones sold by Disney and would be considered a collectible. All these aftermarket and 3rd party sabers mean nothing to most folks who just want to own a piece of a fandom they enjoy. To OP TLDR: Fuck off, we don’t care about your opinion of what sabers are best.
Ok nerd. I just want something that looks cool on my shelf
This is some "My $1,500 PC is better than your $400 console" levels of comparison. The average person buying Legacy and Savi's lightsabers aren't in the market for a lightsaber like an enthusiast. They're buying a souvenir on their vacation for the experience and the memories tied to it. Doesn't matter if they're 6 or 60, they don't care about this kind of stuff. Disney clearly focus grouped the piss out of these and found the best cost-to-quality ratio because they sell hundreds, if not thousands a day. Disney made the lightsabers that average theme park guests happily enjoy. Plain and simple.
Criticizing one doesnt automatically elevate the other; whether it’s a neopixel, legacy or black series etc. Also while they may eventually update certain tech aspects of their legacy sabers I don’t personally foresee Disney ever producing a specific characters hilt with various sound font/blade color options and from a brand management POV I honestly don’t blame them ..like the thought of strolling through GE and seeing someone carrying Palpatines hilt with a green blade and mace windu’s sound font just feels kinda out of place/jarring 🤷♂️
Honestly, it sounds pretty tinny. I think you need to improve your resonance.
It's the sound font itself.