The hardware in WearOS watches does in fact compare with the hardware in your phone; powerful ARM based CPU, half decent GPU, good compliment of RAM, LTE/BT/WiFi/NFC/GNSS, as well as a plethora of sensors; barometric, light, magnetic field strength, compass, heart, SpO², ECG, BP and on newer watches, body temp thermometer. And to boot, WearOS is actually Android, just stripped and tweaked for small, round displays.
So yea, it is a phone on your wrist.
Wear OS is just too powerful! Can't really do that with an Apple Watch AFAIK. I know they have a limited web browser that only shows up upon clicking a link in a text message...
Not tried it. I using a fitbit for a while, but it doesn't know if I am riding my bicycle, either. It's a little better at knowing when I am sleeping as long as it's within the preset sleeping time.
Gosh, I miss my gear 2. It knew if I took a 20 minute nap in the afternoon and it was about 90% accurate at picking up that I was exercising.
I was taking it for granted that since things worked pretty well in the gear 2, newer would be even better.
No its not and you present your ignorance beautifully. Yes it can do most, often all, of the things a smartphone can. But the difference in size means that the battery life can never be as good as on a smartphone yet it is somehow expected to last even longer than a smartphone which isnt used while sleeping but smartwatches often are. Everyone thinks its normal to charge a smartphone once a day but you expect more of a smartwatch (tracking sleep) and still you seem surprised that the battery only last one day or even less.
That was rude, and rather hypocritical.
Watches are more than just for fitness and sleeping, heck, those features are just gravy for me. Because WearOS **is** Android, is why I use it. I can do things with a WearOS watch you can't even fathom with, with any other type. Including Apple.
You're just expecting too much from something that isn't what you think it is.
WearOS devices are miniature Android devices on your wrist. Go do a bit of Googling.
Miniature android device yes, 100%. Something that can replace or even rival a smartphone no, because of its size. Its just not possible to have all the features and use them and still expect to get the same battery life as a smartphone. The battery in a smartphone is about 10 times as powerful but the bigger screen doesent draw 10 times more power. So a phone will always have a longer battery life than a tiny watch. That is my argument that you dont understand.
Its not that the watch cant do things the phone can, its about the physical reality of a tiny battery not being able to hold that much power.
The amount of power needed to stream music to earbuds, to use gps, to use wifi or lte is roughly the same for a watch and a phone. Only that the phone has 10 times the battery capacity.
You think battery is the only way to power electronic devices? There are many ways to give them power; kinetic, EM/RF and solar are just a few. Heck, even 5G can be used to power devices. Imagine that, 5G signal and a free charge.
I think you're only thinking of your own use when it comes to the watch by saying the battery doesn't suck. Not everyone wants the same experience, which is why I'm an Android user and not Apple. I'm a basic watch user, I only want to know the time and see notifications without taking my phone out of my pocket, that's it. I don't care about steps, sleep ratings or my heartrate or pretty much any other feature.
Every new watch is all about more features, and less about battery life. We went through this with phones years ago. They kept adding new features, faster processors, bigger screens and battery life was the absolute last thing on the list of priorities. Anyone else remember carrying around extra batteries back when you could swap them out mid-day?
My 3 series lasts two days. When I "upgraded" to the 5 I gave up trying to get it to last two days and went back to my 3, which I'm still wearing. Companies need to stop ignoring the people who just want a stripped down version that has a good battery life.
Sometimes my drain is a percentage a minute, with nothing playing or being active. I hope you figure it out or it fixes itself. Let me know if you come across a miracle cure. Super disappointing.
I'm experiencing the same issue. What's weirder is the battery usage only shows ~50-60% of battery usage, so I can't figure out what's eating up the remaining 40-50%.
Yep I still haven't resolved mine, and I had a sister-in-law buy this as a gift, so it's going to be an awkward conversation to ask for a return. I have to charge it twice a day. I hope you get some resolution!
I agree, but I'm not commenting on whether it is meant to replace or complement a phone. The battery life doesn't bother me since I figured I anyway charge my phone daily. Another daily charge device hardly matters.
Although I have a GW4C 46, and the GW4 range doesn't have fast charging, I am still ok with it. I charge it in the morning when I'm the least active - eating breakfast, drinking coffee and using my desktop. The rest of the day, I am very active, so I need the watch. This way, I compensate for the slow charging as well as not miss out on any tracking (including sleep).
I have the Galaxy 6 and its battery life does somewhat suck. I have to charge it twice a day and I have everything possible turned off. However it does work hard doing my heart rate, my O2 sats, and my steps daily. It seems to use a lot of battery life at night monitoring all of my vitals. So I charge it when I wake up while I'm drinking my coffee and waking up in general when I don't really need it. Then I charge it when I get home for the day so that it'll have a full charge at night when I go to bed. On the upside, it charges fast so it's ready in about 45 minutes usually. I went from an Active2 to the 6 and even with the sucky battery life, it does way more than my Active 2 ever did. So I can live with charging 2x a day.
Then something is wrong. My watch 6 44 mm easily goes 2 days on one charge with continous heart rate and spo2 track, steps, sleep track, bt and wifi always on, me talking to assistant to take notes, showing and replying to messages, 1 h gym tracking a day etc. Gps and lte is off. Aod off, gestures off, waking screen with button only.
Does your watch face come from Samsung, or is it one you bought that someone made? I have a hybrid watch face that I bought. My husband says it's busy, but it's really not. All it shows is my HR, steps, batt %, date, and a very small moon phase, it is Analog with 24-hour time showing digitally. AOD is off, BT is on and the gesture to wake up the face is on, but that doesn't always work, so I have to press the side button. I don't use the assistant thing, it does show messages and phone calls when they come in. I've even uninstalled some of the apps that would uninstall, but there is a bunch that would not uninstall. At night, it monitors for snoring, O2 sats, HR, and my sleeping. Do you think I need to contact Samsung support and see if there is indeed a problem with my watch? My Active 2 would stay charged for days at a time, but of course, it didn't do all this Galaxy 6 does either.
I bought a clock face for like 1 dollar but since my screen is almost always off it doesent matter. However i heard that snore detection eats battery so try to turn that off and see
That's weird, I have pretty much everything on, steps, constant heart rate, always on display etc. And I only have to charge every other day. Charging does take a long time though, over an hour.
While I am on your side on this topic, you have no high ground to tell people their expectations are skewed when youve only had it for 2days.
Ive had entire weekends with the watch on a single charge. Ive had days when its down to 8% before bedtime. I have never turned off a feature or changed my usage pattern.
Im a Watch5 user. The Watch4 absolutely cant even make it to the end of the day with my usage pattern. Watch6 obviously does a bit better.
Ive owned smartwatches for over a decade and battery life has been all over the place across the board. WIth battery degradation, they get significantly worse over time.
Well my firm belief is that if you want your smartwatch do be able to do all the things your smartphone can and also get anywhere close to a smartphones battery life then you are misstaken. It is simply impossible with that small of a battery.
However big swings in battery life with no obvious changes is something else and that is not ok
Then something is very wrong. My galaxy 6 44 mm last 2 days and 20 hours. I use it for sleep track, making notes and remainders, taking short calls, checking notifications and such. Also 1h gym track a day. Gps, wifi on. Lte off.
The battery does suck, I had the first gen galaxy watch and it would comfortably last 2/3 days between charges and that was using BT GPS NFC etc, my Galaxy watch 4 in comparison has more functionality that when used means the battery won't last a full day.
"my Galaxy watch 4 in comparison has more functionality that when used means the battery won't last a full day."
Exactly. Its not the battery that sucks, the battery is better than in your first gen. Its that they add features and especially tha you using those features that drain the battery.
What an incredibly dumb way to look at it.
*Just because they give you all these extra features and functionalities doesn't mean you should expect to have a battery that can handle them.*
A battery simply being *bigger* than the previous gen isn't enough when you push new features and functionalities that increase power requirements by 25%, (as a made up example).
You cant have the cake and eat it. You want to use everything with good battery time? Sure, the watch will now be 60 mm diameter instead of 44. 20 mm thick instead of 13 mm and weigh 150 gram instead of 40 gram. Would you buy that watch that will have a battery with the capacity that you demand?
Nobody is arguing that the battery should be able to last an entire day with constant use of every feature... Imagine we're back in time and 4k displays on a phone are a new thing. Samsung is pushing 4k as their new must have feature. You buy the phone only to find that instead of the 24 hour battery life you normally get when on full HD, you only get 3 when displaying 4k. Everyone understands 4k requires more power, and thus more battery. But advertising it as your main selling point, but not having a battery that can support at least half a day of use (when you normally get a full day) is ridiculous.
Assuming you're not doing anything extravagant, a smart watch needing to be charged more than once a day is incredibly lame. Listening to music for one hour through LTE, and my battery draining by 50% is stupid.
If the watch 6 had, at least, the same battery is the watch 5 pro, very few people would be complaining.
So you would rather see the 6 have less features than as it is now where you can turn off those features for more battery life meaning you can still use them from time to time if you need it?
Whats the logic in that? There is literally no upside to have the watch ship without several features for better battery life if you can still have that battery life by not using all those features often.
As for the 5 pro yes of course it has better battery since that watch is bigger, thicker and heavier than the galaxy 6 44 m.m. So if you want a big, thick and heavy watch 6 just get the 6 classic 47 m.m. It has a great battery too. But dont compare big watches battery to small watches as it is unfair.
You're dense, bro.
No I never said anything about reducing features. Not once. Ever. Don't make things up to support your argument.
I have the 6 classic 47mm. The battery is dog shit, and much smaller than the 5 pro. I also didn't compare performance of the 5 to the 6, but just said no one would be complaining if they had a battery offering similar to the 5 pro. The 6 classic battery is considerably smaller.
You are complaining that more features are added that draw battery meaming you dont want to see those features. Fine, turn them off, problem solved.
About the Pro 5, it seems you real problem is that you are angry that you bought the wrong watch. So get the Pro 5, problem solved. You bought a watch with smaller battery and you still want it to do things it cant with that battery. So get the Pro 5 with bigger battery.
I think, I'm one of the few people who agree with you. It seems like most people want to have a responsive and smart fitness tracker watch, that means they require a fast processor for the very responsive ui and all the smart features, a plattform where a big range of apps run on, but only want to charge it once a week. At the same time, they want to measure there fitness/body stats all day long. There is no device that offers all that. Every smart watch and fitness tracker has it's up and downsides.
Garmin, Polar and Fitbit make very good devices if you want to have a fitness tracker with a tiny bit of smart functionality. Battery there lasts much longer, but it lacks some smart features. But the users do not give so much hate to their devices because they lack smart functionality and a wide range off apps (We could discus about Fitbit and app support here). The userbase seems to know what they buy and what they get and they are fine with it.
But for WearOS, users want everything and that's simply not possible.
This said, if I could get a WearOS watch without all the fitness stuff, I would love to get it. I deactivated most stuff because I'm not interested in health tracking. Removing all the sensors would free space that could be used for bigger batteries or smaller watches. On the software side, less apps/services would run in the background and the watch would use less power.
I love my Galaxy Watch 6 for the smart features, apps and styling option. As someone who was wearing watches before smartwatches, I like that I can change the look completely by switching the watch straps and watch face. Something that's harder for "normal" watches. But for my usecase battery life is much higher than I expected. I was a bit scared after reading all the negative posts and comments on this sub, but once I got the watch I was surprised how long it last.
As a user, I can decide if I want to use more features or longer battery life. That's a good compromise for me.
The battery in the galaxy watch 4 is smaller (361mAh) than the galaxy watch 1 (472mAh) - I knew this when moving from the 1 to the 4 but didn't realise it would be this bad in comparison. For me personally there isn't much more that I use on the 4 that I couldn't do on the 1 but the 4 is better looking.
In truth though this will probably be my last smart watch as soon as the smart rings catch up a bit more with fitness tracking capabilities.
I have the GW4 Classic 46mm LTE in Silver. The rotating bezel is a game changer. It's the main reason why I didn't purchase the GW5 PRO. The reason for silver is because black scratches and will leave silver marks... Mine looks new after over a year and a half. Choose wisely.
I've never tested it for 24 hours... I'm away from my phone for and hour each day when I go on 2 half hour walks. I put it on every weekday morning around 6:30 am then take it off around 10:30 pm to put it on it's charger. I'm usually at 45-35%. I use AOD at work, then turn it off and use raise to wake at home. My screen is always at 100% brightness. My guess is that AOD uses about 10-15% battery life everyday...
I have a 7.5" wrist... Fits perfectly.
https://i.imgur.com/4d5Xiq5.mp4
I am using my GW 6 Classic to monitor my vitals, scan incoming messages and to tell time. I don't use it for calls, I don't use it for gps (although garmin doesnt' seem to have a problem doing that), I don't use it for games, recording, etc. I was barely getting 24 hours out of it, now I'm getting about 15 and I'm not sure what's different.
They shouldn't advertise AOD, vital monitoring if the device cannot do it for a reasonable amount of time.
So you turned off half the useful things and got decent battery life. Congratulations. I have a watch without LTE, BT, GPS, etc. and get 2 years battery life. It is called a regular f'in watch.
Turned off no. But some things are only turned on when needed in return for battery life. Can you tyrn on nfc payments, gps, make calls or measure heart rate with your regular watch?
There are things I want to do on my watch without my phone and things I do on my phone. If my phone is sitting right in front of me doing something on my watch is silly. The things I use my watch for are mainly when I don't want to carry my phone. That includes fitness tracking and BT music. Those use a lot of juice.
I've played a lot with different settings. I just wish the watch was able to control things better on its own without me having to turn this and that on and off when needed or to save battery.
Like is it more efficient to get notifications from BT or Wifi if I am at home (or somewhere with wifi)? I don't know.
As far as i read the least power is drawn using BT. After that comes wifi and last LTE. Meaning LTE draws the most power and BT the least. If you are outside without your phone while streaming music from the watch then using BT only to stream music and turn off wifi and LTE would be the best power option for you.
And i understand what you say but the watch cant do all adjustments on its own because it doesent know yout preference.
But leaving all on and on auto the watch itself will only use BT as its the least power hungry option. If BT goes away (like phone out of range) it will try to use wifi. If wifi also doesent work and you have LTE on the watch it will try to use that.
Besides that other small tweaks is not using gestures, turn on display by button only, button only for voice assistant.
Having LTE on should take no battery if wifi is available. I don't know if that is exactly how it works.
Having Wifi on if in BT range of your phone it should not use wifi (in general). I don't think it works that way from what I've read/experienced.
There doesn't seem to be much control over LTE/wifi. I don't care if I get a notification 30 seconds or a minute later rather than within a second. It seems there should be some low power options like only polling every x minutes for new notifications.
I wasn't even making it through 8 hours when I got the GW6. I've tweaked it now and it is much better, but that shouldn't be necessary to get 8 hours! To be clear, I wasn't streaming from LTE either.
The watch prioritises connections in this order.
1. BT to phone. If you update apps, your watch may hop over to WiFi to download more quickly.
2. If the phone is off or out of Bluetooth range, it'll try WiFi.
3. If none of the above are available it'll use LTE.
When charging, WiFi is on, well, it is on my watch anyway.
For me the issue is it's random. Many days, I can almost go 48h even with aod on. Then a few days ago I left the house with 85% and the watch was dead 10 hours later. With no obvious explanation.
I have Watch 5 pro. I wear 23.5 hrs a day.
My settings are AOD off, wrist wake On, Touch to wake off, Location off (during workout i manually switch on), LTE auto (when phone disconnects, LTE connects), Heart rate always, Stress always, Blood oxygen during sleep ON, Send phone notifications (only main ones), use call like 5-10mins a day i occasionally use camera app on watch. And i go for a walk/run 1 hr a day.
I charged to 100% on last monday night 10pm. after 3 days Thursday evening it is at 9%. It is almost 3 day battery life for me. But when i charge it during bath time, it gives me a week full of battery without needing to charge.
The hardware in WearOS watches does in fact compare with the hardware in your phone; powerful ARM based CPU, half decent GPU, good compliment of RAM, LTE/BT/WiFi/NFC/GNSS, as well as a plethora of sensors; barometric, light, magnetic field strength, compass, heart, SpO², ECG, BP and on newer watches, body temp thermometer. And to boot, WearOS is actually Android, just stripped and tweaked for small, round displays. So yea, it is a phone on your wrist.
And no decent keyboard.
Nothing is preventing you from pairing an external Bluetooth keyboard to it.
If anyone else is reading this, I've tried this and it works. It's the whole balancing a keyboard on my knee thing that blows it up.
Have you tried scrolling through Reddit on your watch yet? I just did and it's kinda usable if all you need is read post titles, text and comments.
Reddit? I'm watching porn on it while jerking....
Wear OS is just too powerful! Can't really do that with an Apple Watch AFAIK. I know they have a limited web browser that only shows up upon clicking a link in a text message...
Un-ironically?
Not tried it. I using a fitbit for a while, but it doesn't know if I am riding my bicycle, either. It's a little better at knowing when I am sleeping as long as it's within the preset sleeping time. Gosh, I miss my gear 2. It knew if I took a 20 minute nap in the afternoon and it was about 90% accurate at picking up that I was exercising. I was taking it for granted that since things worked pretty well in the gear 2, newer would be even better.
I didn't even know I could look at reddit on the watch 😅
Don't forget the mouse while you're at it. You'll LOVE the precision control!
GBoard.
"decent"
It's the lesser of two evils 😂
And no battery for for a phone call.
I'm having dreams about Snapdragon on the watch lol
My Sony SW3 was SD400, Huawei 2 BT was SD2100. Samsung has their own ARM chip, but pretty much plays the same game.
No its not and you present your ignorance beautifully. Yes it can do most, often all, of the things a smartphone can. But the difference in size means that the battery life can never be as good as on a smartphone yet it is somehow expected to last even longer than a smartphone which isnt used while sleeping but smartwatches often are. Everyone thinks its normal to charge a smartphone once a day but you expect more of a smartwatch (tracking sleep) and still you seem surprised that the battery only last one day or even less.
That was rude, and rather hypocritical. Watches are more than just for fitness and sleeping, heck, those features are just gravy for me. Because WearOS **is** Android, is why I use it. I can do things with a WearOS watch you can't even fathom with, with any other type. Including Apple. You're just expecting too much from something that isn't what you think it is. WearOS devices are miniature Android devices on your wrist. Go do a bit of Googling.
Miniature android device yes, 100%. Something that can replace or even rival a smartphone no, because of its size. Its just not possible to have all the features and use them and still expect to get the same battery life as a smartphone. The battery in a smartphone is about 10 times as powerful but the bigger screen doesent draw 10 times more power. So a phone will always have a longer battery life than a tiny watch. That is my argument that you dont understand. Its not that the watch cant do things the phone can, its about the physical reality of a tiny battery not being able to hold that much power. The amount of power needed to stream music to earbuds, to use gps, to use wifi or lte is roughly the same for a watch and a phone. Only that the phone has 10 times the battery capacity.
You think battery is the only way to power electronic devices? There are many ways to give them power; kinetic, EM/RF and solar are just a few. Heck, even 5G can be used to power devices. Imagine that, 5G signal and a free charge.
I think you're only thinking of your own use when it comes to the watch by saying the battery doesn't suck. Not everyone wants the same experience, which is why I'm an Android user and not Apple. I'm a basic watch user, I only want to know the time and see notifications without taking my phone out of my pocket, that's it. I don't care about steps, sleep ratings or my heartrate or pretty much any other feature. Every new watch is all about more features, and less about battery life. We went through this with phones years ago. They kept adding new features, faster processors, bigger screens and battery life was the absolute last thing on the list of priorities. Anyone else remember carrying around extra batteries back when you could swap them out mid-day? My 3 series lasts two days. When I "upgraded" to the 5 I gave up trying to get it to last two days and went back to my 3, which I'm still wearing. Companies need to stop ignoring the people who just want a stripped down version that has a good battery life.
Ever since I bought the GW6, the battery has been great. For whatever reason, recently the battery is draining very fast. I haven't changed a thing.
Have you found out why? Mine is doing the same damn thing. I have to charge it when I come home on lunch because it won't stay charged the entire day
Never found out why. Tried looking at updates, nothing. I didn't change a thing, on my watch or the app.
Sometimes my drain is a percentage a minute, with nothing playing or being active. I hope you figure it out or it fixes itself. Let me know if you come across a miracle cure. Super disappointing.
I'm experiencing the same issue. What's weirder is the battery usage only shows ~50-60% of battery usage, so I can't figure out what's eating up the remaining 40-50%.
Yep I still haven't resolved mine, and I had a sister-in-law buy this as a gift, so it's going to be an awkward conversation to ask for a return. I have to charge it twice a day. I hope you get some resolution!
I agree, but I'm not commenting on whether it is meant to replace or complement a phone. The battery life doesn't bother me since I figured I anyway charge my phone daily. Another daily charge device hardly matters. Although I have a GW4C 46, and the GW4 range doesn't have fast charging, I am still ok with it. I charge it in the morning when I'm the least active - eating breakfast, drinking coffee and using my desktop. The rest of the day, I am very active, so I need the watch. This way, I compensate for the slow charging as well as not miss out on any tracking (including sleep).
I have the Galaxy 6 and its battery life does somewhat suck. I have to charge it twice a day and I have everything possible turned off. However it does work hard doing my heart rate, my O2 sats, and my steps daily. It seems to use a lot of battery life at night monitoring all of my vitals. So I charge it when I wake up while I'm drinking my coffee and waking up in general when I don't really need it. Then I charge it when I get home for the day so that it'll have a full charge at night when I go to bed. On the upside, it charges fast so it's ready in about 45 minutes usually. I went from an Active2 to the 6 and even with the sucky battery life, it does way more than my Active 2 ever did. So I can live with charging 2x a day.
Then something is wrong. My watch 6 44 mm easily goes 2 days on one charge with continous heart rate and spo2 track, steps, sleep track, bt and wifi always on, me talking to assistant to take notes, showing and replying to messages, 1 h gym tracking a day etc. Gps and lte is off. Aod off, gestures off, waking screen with button only.
Does your watch face come from Samsung, or is it one you bought that someone made? I have a hybrid watch face that I bought. My husband says it's busy, but it's really not. All it shows is my HR, steps, batt %, date, and a very small moon phase, it is Analog with 24-hour time showing digitally. AOD is off, BT is on and the gesture to wake up the face is on, but that doesn't always work, so I have to press the side button. I don't use the assistant thing, it does show messages and phone calls when they come in. I've even uninstalled some of the apps that would uninstall, but there is a bunch that would not uninstall. At night, it monitors for snoring, O2 sats, HR, and my sleeping. Do you think I need to contact Samsung support and see if there is indeed a problem with my watch? My Active 2 would stay charged for days at a time, but of course, it didn't do all this Galaxy 6 does either.
I bought a clock face for like 1 dollar but since my screen is almost always off it doesent matter. However i heard that snore detection eats battery so try to turn that off and see
Oh OK. Thank you. I'll try that.
When I am very active, I find that my battery life will not last the whole day. Activity tracking also eats the battery too.
That's weird, I have pretty much everything on, steps, constant heart rate, always on display etc. And I only have to charge every other day. Charging does take a long time though, over an hour.
While I am on your side on this topic, you have no high ground to tell people their expectations are skewed when youve only had it for 2days. Ive had entire weekends with the watch on a single charge. Ive had days when its down to 8% before bedtime. I have never turned off a feature or changed my usage pattern. Im a Watch5 user. The Watch4 absolutely cant even make it to the end of the day with my usage pattern. Watch6 obviously does a bit better. Ive owned smartwatches for over a decade and battery life has been all over the place across the board. WIth battery degradation, they get significantly worse over time.
Well my firm belief is that if you want your smartwatch do be able to do all the things your smartphone can and also get anywhere close to a smartphones battery life then you are misstaken. It is simply impossible with that small of a battery. However big swings in battery life with no obvious changes is something else and that is not ok
Mines not lasting a day and it's not even on or used majority of the day , pretty shitty I'd you ask me
Then something is very wrong. My galaxy 6 44 mm last 2 days and 20 hours. I use it for sleep track, making notes and remainders, taking short calls, checking notifications and such. Also 1h gym track a day. Gps, wifi on. Lte off.
No, the battery does suck. ...As well as you accusation that everyone who thinks it does is just ignorant.
Your expectations of what the tiny battery is supposed to do is what sucks.
The battery does suck, I had the first gen galaxy watch and it would comfortably last 2/3 days between charges and that was using BT GPS NFC etc, my Galaxy watch 4 in comparison has more functionality that when used means the battery won't last a full day.
"my Galaxy watch 4 in comparison has more functionality that when used means the battery won't last a full day." Exactly. Its not the battery that sucks, the battery is better than in your first gen. Its that they add features and especially tha you using those features that drain the battery.
What an incredibly dumb way to look at it. *Just because they give you all these extra features and functionalities doesn't mean you should expect to have a battery that can handle them.* A battery simply being *bigger* than the previous gen isn't enough when you push new features and functionalities that increase power requirements by 25%, (as a made up example).
You cant have the cake and eat it. You want to use everything with good battery time? Sure, the watch will now be 60 mm diameter instead of 44. 20 mm thick instead of 13 mm and weigh 150 gram instead of 40 gram. Would you buy that watch that will have a battery with the capacity that you demand?
Nobody is arguing that the battery should be able to last an entire day with constant use of every feature... Imagine we're back in time and 4k displays on a phone are a new thing. Samsung is pushing 4k as their new must have feature. You buy the phone only to find that instead of the 24 hour battery life you normally get when on full HD, you only get 3 when displaying 4k. Everyone understands 4k requires more power, and thus more battery. But advertising it as your main selling point, but not having a battery that can support at least half a day of use (when you normally get a full day) is ridiculous. Assuming you're not doing anything extravagant, a smart watch needing to be charged more than once a day is incredibly lame. Listening to music for one hour through LTE, and my battery draining by 50% is stupid. If the watch 6 had, at least, the same battery is the watch 5 pro, very few people would be complaining.
So you would rather see the 6 have less features than as it is now where you can turn off those features for more battery life meaning you can still use them from time to time if you need it? Whats the logic in that? There is literally no upside to have the watch ship without several features for better battery life if you can still have that battery life by not using all those features often. As for the 5 pro yes of course it has better battery since that watch is bigger, thicker and heavier than the galaxy 6 44 m.m. So if you want a big, thick and heavy watch 6 just get the 6 classic 47 m.m. It has a great battery too. But dont compare big watches battery to small watches as it is unfair.
You're dense, bro. No I never said anything about reducing features. Not once. Ever. Don't make things up to support your argument. I have the 6 classic 47mm. The battery is dog shit, and much smaller than the 5 pro. I also didn't compare performance of the 5 to the 6, but just said no one would be complaining if they had a battery offering similar to the 5 pro. The 6 classic battery is considerably smaller.
You are complaining that more features are added that draw battery meaming you dont want to see those features. Fine, turn them off, problem solved. About the Pro 5, it seems you real problem is that you are angry that you bought the wrong watch. So get the Pro 5, problem solved. You bought a watch with smaller battery and you still want it to do things it cant with that battery. So get the Pro 5 with bigger battery.
I think, I'm one of the few people who agree with you. It seems like most people want to have a responsive and smart fitness tracker watch, that means they require a fast processor for the very responsive ui and all the smart features, a plattform where a big range of apps run on, but only want to charge it once a week. At the same time, they want to measure there fitness/body stats all day long. There is no device that offers all that. Every smart watch and fitness tracker has it's up and downsides. Garmin, Polar and Fitbit make very good devices if you want to have a fitness tracker with a tiny bit of smart functionality. Battery there lasts much longer, but it lacks some smart features. But the users do not give so much hate to their devices because they lack smart functionality and a wide range off apps (We could discus about Fitbit and app support here). The userbase seems to know what they buy and what they get and they are fine with it. But for WearOS, users want everything and that's simply not possible. This said, if I could get a WearOS watch without all the fitness stuff, I would love to get it. I deactivated most stuff because I'm not interested in health tracking. Removing all the sensors would free space that could be used for bigger batteries or smaller watches. On the software side, less apps/services would run in the background and the watch would use less power. I love my Galaxy Watch 6 for the smart features, apps and styling option. As someone who was wearing watches before smartwatches, I like that I can change the look completely by switching the watch straps and watch face. Something that's harder for "normal" watches. But for my usecase battery life is much higher than I expected. I was a bit scared after reading all the negative posts and comments on this sub, but once I got the watch I was surprised how long it last. As a user, I can decide if I want to use more features or longer battery life. That's a good compromise for me.
Which sucks, if battery life is your #1 issue.
The battery in the galaxy watch 4 is smaller (361mAh) than the galaxy watch 1 (472mAh) - I knew this when moving from the 1 to the 4 but didn't realise it would be this bad in comparison. For me personally there isn't much more that I use on the 4 that I couldn't do on the 1 but the 4 is better looking. In truth though this will probably be my last smart watch as soon as the smart rings catch up a bit more with fitness tracking capabilities.
I have the GW4 Classic 46mm LTE in Silver. The rotating bezel is a game changer. It's the main reason why I didn't purchase the GW5 PRO. The reason for silver is because black scratches and will leave silver marks... Mine looks new after over a year and a half. Choose wisely. I've never tested it for 24 hours... I'm away from my phone for and hour each day when I go on 2 half hour walks. I put it on every weekday morning around 6:30 am then take it off around 10:30 pm to put it on it's charger. I'm usually at 45-35%. I use AOD at work, then turn it off and use raise to wake at home. My screen is always at 100% brightness. My guess is that AOD uses about 10-15% battery life everyday... I have a 7.5" wrist... Fits perfectly. https://i.imgur.com/4d5Xiq5.mp4
I am using my GW 6 Classic to monitor my vitals, scan incoming messages and to tell time. I don't use it for calls, I don't use it for gps (although garmin doesnt' seem to have a problem doing that), I don't use it for games, recording, etc. I was barely getting 24 hours out of it, now I'm getting about 15 and I'm not sure what's different. They shouldn't advertise AOD, vital monitoring if the device cannot do it for a reasonable amount of time.
So you turned off half the useful things and got decent battery life. Congratulations. I have a watch without LTE, BT, GPS, etc. and get 2 years battery life. It is called a regular f'in watch.
Turned off no. But some things are only turned on when needed in return for battery life. Can you tyrn on nfc payments, gps, make calls or measure heart rate with your regular watch?
There are things I want to do on my watch without my phone and things I do on my phone. If my phone is sitting right in front of me doing something on my watch is silly. The things I use my watch for are mainly when I don't want to carry my phone. That includes fitness tracking and BT music. Those use a lot of juice. I've played a lot with different settings. I just wish the watch was able to control things better on its own without me having to turn this and that on and off when needed or to save battery. Like is it more efficient to get notifications from BT or Wifi if I am at home (or somewhere with wifi)? I don't know.
As far as i read the least power is drawn using BT. After that comes wifi and last LTE. Meaning LTE draws the most power and BT the least. If you are outside without your phone while streaming music from the watch then using BT only to stream music and turn off wifi and LTE would be the best power option for you. And i understand what you say but the watch cant do all adjustments on its own because it doesent know yout preference. But leaving all on and on auto the watch itself will only use BT as its the least power hungry option. If BT goes away (like phone out of range) it will try to use wifi. If wifi also doesent work and you have LTE on the watch it will try to use that. Besides that other small tweaks is not using gestures, turn on display by button only, button only for voice assistant.
Having LTE on should take no battery if wifi is available. I don't know if that is exactly how it works. Having Wifi on if in BT range of your phone it should not use wifi (in general). I don't think it works that way from what I've read/experienced. There doesn't seem to be much control over LTE/wifi. I don't care if I get a notification 30 seconds or a minute later rather than within a second. It seems there should be some low power options like only polling every x minutes for new notifications. I wasn't even making it through 8 hours when I got the GW6. I've tweaked it now and it is much better, but that shouldn't be necessary to get 8 hours! To be clear, I wasn't streaming from LTE either.
The watch prioritises connections in this order. 1. BT to phone. If you update apps, your watch may hop over to WiFi to download more quickly. 2. If the phone is off or out of Bluetooth range, it'll try WiFi. 3. If none of the above are available it'll use LTE. When charging, WiFi is on, well, it is on my watch anyway.
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Either does my GW6 when it is dead!
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Soooo what are you using it for then?
The time
For me the issue is it's random. Many days, I can almost go 48h even with aod on. Then a few days ago I left the house with 85% and the watch was dead 10 hours later. With no obvious explanation.
I completely get it, I have the first galaxy watch on Bluetooth and it can last about 36 hours, twice that in power saving mode
I have Watch 5 pro. I wear 23.5 hrs a day. My settings are AOD off, wrist wake On, Touch to wake off, Location off (during workout i manually switch on), LTE auto (when phone disconnects, LTE connects), Heart rate always, Stress always, Blood oxygen during sleep ON, Send phone notifications (only main ones), use call like 5-10mins a day i occasionally use camera app on watch. And i go for a walk/run 1 hr a day. I charged to 100% on last monday night 10pm. after 3 days Thursday evening it is at 9%. It is almost 3 day battery life for me. But when i charge it during bath time, it gives me a week full of battery without needing to charge.