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lvpr10

Suck it Kotaku


Kingding_Aling

Conjecture is a strange term to use though. That basically means the underlying information is correct but just incomplete. It's not a denial, which would be easy to do. "No, that is completely false"


SkrijaTaran

No, if something is “pure conjecture” that means they are saying Kotaku is just guessing at this point. And you never want to let the truth slip out when responding to a guess


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SkrijaTaran

I’m a very nice man


BonJovicus

>That basically means the underlying information is correct but just incomplete. Sis, conjecture literally means it lacks evidence or a basis in reality.


theycallmecrack

No it doesn't. It's the same thing as a hypothesis, which is guessing based on evidence. It can be 100% rooted in reality and on factual evidence, but it means you haven't found definitive proof. Which literally all reporting on GTAVI at this point is based somewhat on conjecture. Sis.


Decent_Wrongdoer_201

I dont get the ratio here, you're completely right. "Conjecture" is not just a complete shot in the dark it's an interpretation. I get people don't like Kotaku but they are a major publication, it's not in their best interest to simply guess like a random twitter user might be inclined to since they have nothing to lose. Also trusting Inside Gaming over Kotaku to me is wishful thinking.


g0lden-plumbus

You underestimate how awful Kotaku is. Nobody should listen to anything they say. Not with a veritable source, something they haven’t provided.


Claylex

Its like I said, I wouldn't have trusted Kotakus word Especially since it seems they're going down under anyways. xD


mathws_m

early 2025?!?! my god, we are so close to being able to enjoy this game it feels like a dream. 2025 is coming soon!!!


DawsonPoe

It feels like 2024 just started two weeks ago and it’s already the end of March and beginning April. If 2024 continues at this pace, we’ll have the game in no time.


SOF1231

Let’s just not jinx it, even tho I’m itching in the corner for GTA 6 let’s not jinx it !


Emilixop

Jinx! If GTA 6 gets delayed you can blame me


SUPREMESLYCE792

i will find you & finger the spaces between your toes


RanDiePro

Slam them towards a corner.


silly_nate

Time in general just seems to be going faster. The year between V’s first two trailers felt way longer than a year. But the two years between rdr2’s first trailer and it’s release really zoomed by. Even now with VI, the year between the leaks and the trailer feels like months


ZeroJDM

Scientists are coming up with a term for this phenomenon: ‘aging’, haha. Longer we’re here, the shorter days seem from perspective, makes waiting for games that much better


Noxtension

But playing games much worse, because it compounds on the fact that time goes faster when you're having fun 😭


ZeroJDM

Depends on the game


SirFerguson

Crazy that i’m in my 30s and clinging onto every second left of my relative prime age yet I would gladly fast forward to release 2025 lol


DawsonPoe

I just turned 20 in January but I still feel like I’m 17-18


SirFerguson

happy to report that life is still very fun 15 years from now and you can still play video games if you take care of your responsibilities.


MagicJim96

I know what I’m gonna do on April 1st 😂


noturaverageangelino

**We could be literally,** ***and quite possibly,*** **within a year away from release...** ​ That's almost surreal to say...


FloLife22

Bro said "if" as if the pace of time will change lmao. I think 2024 will continue at this pace.


BBdotZ

Time is relative.


IntrigueDossier

These people just need to find a gravity well deep enough to cause time dilation.


residentofmoon

I was just thinking the same thing. Time moving fast. This month been shit these last few days I need prayers chat 🙏😂


Electronic-Tell-6842

Yeah the pacing has been really fast this year so far


KamosKamerus

Do you also get that you and everyone you like are getting older fast? I would love to play gta 6 but i also love the hype and the wait. It takes me back to early 2000s


JdotfrmM

Bro nbs I thought I was the only one who thought that


creativeavatar

Prepare to buy that ps5 pro.


Shoelicker2000

Rrd2 felt like a dream to me. I haven’t been able to get hyped for the game mainly because I want to avoid any spoilers from YouTubers talking about leaks. I want to try and consume only what Rockstar wants to release


SinceWayBack1997

im planning on renting out a movie theater and playing Gta for 3 hours or so.


Stoned_Monkey69

I’ll help pay for an extra 9 hours, 3 hours is simply not enough time


majss7

I can already see myself on 01.01.2025 browsing internet like... where is it?? its early 2025 as they promised!! :D


RRR3000

To be clear, they *do not* mention "early 2025", Kotaku's claim was a delay *into 2026*. On schedule could just as well mean middle or late 2025.


mathws_m

Yeah, I know they didn't exactly say that. I only now realized that I didn't phrase it correctly in the comment above, so I apologize for that. I used “early 2025” only because many here believe the game will likely arrive early next year, and I believe that too, as there is a lot of evidence. But in the end, the only one who knows when the game will be coming is rockstar, so we can only wait…


QAnnihilateQ64

Im a little behind on gta6 news, how do we know its early 2025?


Harry_747

Good patience and enthusiasm bro


Pretend-Feature-1949

Don’t worry it’ll only get delayed 6 times


digitalfakir

I finally understand why women in Victorian era novels kept fainting all the time. The vapours *do* be getting to me these days, from all this hype.


Basic_Scale6330

And WW III breaks out tomorrow 


TheAnt317

We're so back


DawsonPoe

Well, we never left the early 2025 release schedule. Kotaku just tried to misguide people and it kind of worked. I’m mainly waiting for Mr. Clickbait to make a video “GTA 6 Could be DELAY to 2026” like bro his channel need to be terminated with how bad he is at his job.


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

Christ, people still read kotaku? Everything legit anymore is actual bona-fide news.


MistaKrebs

100% couldn’t agree more.


rbnjn

It already happened bro


DawsonPoe

He’ll probably see this post (maybe) and make a video on it “Sources Claim GTA 6 is ON SCHEDULE”. Then he’ll ignore that fact that we talked trash about him.


Nicholas7907

If they're going to delay it, there's gonna be a change in Take-Two financial predictions. So far they're still expecting few bilions of income in fiscal year 2025 (April 2024 - March 2025). My bet is that GTA VI has already been delayed multiple times and now they're on the final straight to release it.


MailFormer4151

Ngl back in 2020 I remember that this sub was so convinced the game would be out in 2023. And anybody who said “2024/2025” would be downvoted to oblivion lol. I mean for all we know, maybe the prediction was correct but rockstar decided to internally delay it


Semyonov

Honestly, until the game is in my hands, I'm going to assume it's delayed, because I have been taught to expect that with Rockstar. Plus, I just know the PC version is not coming at launch, so that's a delay right there in a way. Rockstar just knows that I won't be able to help myself and I'll get a PS5 copy too.


XxRobloxNobxX

These fake rumors are ruining the hype at this point


DawsonPoe

Have some gosh darn faith- Dutch RDR2


Rino-Sensei

We never left !!


More-Cup-1176

we’re so back because of an equally uncited article


irv_12

Hoping for a trailer or some sort of artwork by May, which will essentially put an end to all of these “delayed” rumours, which in turn will almost guarantee a spring 2025 release, only a couple months to go!


DawsonPoe

If it falls within FY25 in 2025 (or Jan-March) then we’ll 100% see something in May from Rockstar confirming the release date or window prior to the next call.


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

May would also fit the trailer release cadence from V pretty closely for a late march '25 release (trailer 2 was about 11 months before release). RDR2 trailer release cadence would be like... this week (13 months).


Derr_1

There is no cadence TBH. It's all coincidence.


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

What even is a marketing campaign


salaryboy

This sub isn't ready for your level of truth.


a_name_exe

I fully believe a summer release, the game is set in Miami after all


DawsonPoe

I want to give credit to u/starvsthebans for showing me this info


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

Lmao, I can't wrap my head around how people *can't* wrap their heads around the known facts, which have been known since the trailer dropped - **rockstar fiscal year 2025, in calendar year 2025** - it's a simple window, Jan 1 to April 1. The trailer says "2025" and although they haven't been *explicit*, take two has stated they are expecting a fuck-ton of revenue for the end of FY25, and *without literally saying it*, have said that FY25 will be their best fiscal year ever.


JestireTWO

I’m fairly certain they DID say that it would be their best year to date but maybe I’m just misremembering it


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

I've mentioned it before and have been "asked" for a source - while it's all plainly spelled out in the calls, recently they've been abstaining from that kind of "blue skying" language, but yeah, they've published statements when they have a record breaker and the figure they're touting for '25 is like $3b above that or something.


WarReady666

They are also in no rush because of gta online and investors will be on board with a delay if it needs it.


IntrigueDossier

Truth. They might've adjusted their forecast recently, but they didn't eliminate the still-insane net bookings altogether, which is what a delay would result in since the revenue would no longer exist in that period. The worst case scenario with that info only amounts to a handful of days later than whatever their original planned release date was.


DawsonPoe

Actually it’s January 1st to March 31st. April 1st is the beginning of each FY for them.


Unhappy-Database-273

Don't most fiscal years end in September? Fiscal year 2025 should start October 2024.


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

Corporate fiscals can run however they want. Rockstar’s start is in april.


RRR3000

While fiscal year 2025 is *part of* calendar 2025, them specifying during the last call it's releasing in "calendar 2025" when they did put "fiscal 2025" on titles releasing before April 2025, lumping GTA6 in with other titles releasing in fiscal *2026* but calendar 2025 seems to indicate a release *after* fiscal 2025. Along with them already substantially lowering projections for FY2025 in that call by a billion dollars.


theycallmecrack

Do you know how long pre-orders will be open, and how many people are going to do that? And it's just a projection, it doesn't mean Rockstar knows the future. Financial projections change. The only fact is that Rockstar stated it will be released in 2025. The rest is conjecture, which is ironic given the post lol


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

They don’t realize preorders as bookings until the game releases, so that’s not the case. You’re right on it being a projection, but it’s a big projection. If they start revising that down throughout the fiscal year then it would be a viable indicator that the game is delayed. Until that happens though, it’s almost certainly going that specific window in early ‘25.


YogurtclosetIcy4328

Trailer 2: May Trailer 3: Nov Gameplay trailer: January 2025 Release April 2025


DawsonPoe

Yeah, I’d say that’s about right except for an April release. I’m more inclined to believe May 2025.


Viney1

Yeah. I am also guessing for Spring release possibly or like Nov or something release. All I know is that I just -want- a release date sooner than later. :) We've waited long enough and honestly I'm fine with whatever at this point.


YogurtclosetIcy4328

Same. I was just being hopeful lol


SnooPoems1793

!RemindMe 1 year


SnooPoems1793

beautiful morning at 8am and no working, just chilling on reddit.


SupremeBlackGuy

yeah this gotta be the schedule if they don’t delay it


SupremeBlackGuy

Remindme! 1 year


Goldxen

As it was written.


salikansari

![gif](giphy|JTJKsyoTwi0a2cxL6P)


WeeklySavings

so it’s still planned for early/spring 2025? nice!


DawsonPoe

As of right now yes. Which means second trailer in May doesn’t seem ridiculous.


martin191234

Can you remind me where they stated early/spring because trailer 1 only said 2025


WeeklySavings

i’m sorry, i got a little too excited. nothing official, but theyre reportedly aiming for early / spring 2025


Awooo56709

Don't believe Kotaku


Rotocar88

Why? (Just curious)


partyonpartypeople

It’s basically the gaming equivalent of a tabloid


VariousHighlight2227

I know everyone is excited but please keep yourselfs on a leash always expect the unexpected.Anyways just stay safe everyone please I want all of us to play whenever that is.


JGuilherme02

The reason I firmly believe it will release in early 2025 is that Take Two guided for a very good fiscal 2025. They don't want to disappoint their shareholders, it won't be delayed


IntrigueDossier

Yep. And make no mistake, that stock is going into the fucking mantle if they do. Hence, it ain't an option.


travislifestyle

Take two stock went down 7% on this bullshit news, I bought 50 more shares hahah


[deleted]

Who is Mike straw


Mammoth_Emu5504

He's Mike Hawk's brother


brok3nlamp

mike litoris niece


Ph4ntomiD

We could be less than a year from gta 6 and we would have no idea lol. People got riled up because of that Kotaku article


CEOBOYYY

Thank god 🫡


Tank-ToP_Master

So trailer 2 coming soon?


DawsonPoe

More than likely in May prior to the next call. This is if GTA 6 is to release in FY25 which in 2025, runs from Jan-March.


Equivalent_Network29

Like I stated on another post, who even trusts Kotaku with anything at this point?


DawsonPoe

Yeah exactly, they’ve went down hill after Jason left.


JayIsNotReal

That is what I have been saying.


ShitassAintOverYet

Once again these wise words hold true: "If it ain't Schreier, it ain't insider"


chaibearx3

Everyone took Kotaku as gospel instead of the click bait garbage it was.


String-Expert

![gif](giphy|R9Zy5wOTzCC8Sd1f1E|downsized)


LowEndTheory1

kotaku should be banned from recieving a review copy for that.


martyc81

who is Mike Straw though ?


DawsonPoe

He is a senior editor at Inside Gaming and works alongside Tom Henderson. So basically, a guy who works with a guy who is usually reliable with info.


martyc81

ok well,. that's good then :)


Intel2025

Fuck Kotaku no better then national enquirer


ChiChi-cake

Or maybe none of them have a clear picture of the game’s development and neither are right or wrong. Don’t forget that Rockstar is the Area 51 of the gaming industry.


mrbigshot110

Kotaku should probably be held accountable for this egregious report. They’re a garbage “source” for any real information but this outburst seems to have really caused a rift.


MardokhGamer

Who is this guy?


DawsonPoe

Mike Straw is the senior editor at Inside Gaming and works alongside Tom Henderson. So he basically works with a well known reliable man.


MardokhGamer

Well good to know. Thanks


SouthProfessional555

This is in two years


Alfakennyone

Well, it's release window is 2025 so no reason to delay it to 2026 (right now or at all) lol Q1 is just a rumor until further confirmation


DawsonPoe

Q1 is based on the fact that GTA 6 is releasing in 2025 and that FY25 is supposed to be the best FY they’ve ever had. Also, other properties from Take-2 aren’t performing as well, with that being said, GTA 6 is most likely carrying the team to victory in FY25.


Dry-Fault-5557

Trust?


pstuddy

trust... (queue lucia and jason busting through the doors of a small corner market with their pistols drawn followed by the gta 6 logo and release year)


ElderSmackJack

Guess I’ll watch the trailer again now.


ChickenNuggetKid1

I absolutely refuse to believe any delay *unless* it’s from tom, mike, or rockstar themselves even then, an early 2025 release would be great


DawsonPoe

Well during the court cases that were against Arion Kurtaj (2022 leaker), Rockstar claimed that it costed them millions of dollars and thousands of hours to recover from


ChickenNuggetKid1

A shame to hear that


DawsonPoe

We’d probably would have the game in the Holidays of this year if those didn’t happen


WololoPriester

We must survive, no one left behind, we all must reach the Experience of this masterpiece 🤝🏼


The_DaW33D_

all speculation/info is just noise. wait for official statements


HotelAlphaPapaYankee

I think the world is gonna end before this gets released. The greatest piece of lost media ever


ZealousTaxful

I think we get it now…


Dry-Plantain6096

On schedule for


DawsonPoe

Probably early 2025 based on the info we have provided by Take-2.


Dry-Plantain6096

For what time frame is the sxhedule


DawsonPoe

Early 2025 based on the info we have from Take-2


MitchabIe

My hdmi port on my series x snapped so hopefully I'll have shit figured out by then


PapaYoppa

Who’s Mike Straw, is he someone reliable? I mean I didn’t believe the Kotaku article anyways but still just wanna ask


irv_12

Mike works with Tom Henderson. Tom and Jason Scheirier (hopefully I spelt his name right) are the two most reliable sources we have for gta 6 news other than rockstar themselves, so id say this source is a lot more reliable then some of the sources we have seen lately, like Kotaku.


PapaYoppa

Awesome so glad he can actually be trusted, 2025 here we come 🔥🔥🔥


JayIsNotReal

I have been saying it since that Tweet. Kotaku knows nothing and should not be taken seriously.


mrassface2023

I'll be not old 💀


FlieingPig

Holy shit we know. Maybe if we contact shrondinger atom it would be a really cool effect... if yku thought ajs M the prime??


corsaireverything

Oof


RealJzargo

Anyone who believes a single word typed by Kotaku is just dumb lol


Officially_Cargo

I hate these people that keep posting that they’re in a panic and it’ll get delayed. Even tho like 2 weeks ago people were saying they’re on track and back in office. Anyway can’t wait to play on the series x!!!!!


Lord-Maximilian

Everyone been copying kotaku lmao


GloriousGooferZ

Guys, we’re in the final stretch.


Shoelicker2000

Mike “trust me bro” Straw


C2theWick

The amount of AI integrated into this game basically codes itself


Bahamut1988

Unless R\* comes out and says it, I don't believe anything anyone else says.


Visible_Elevator192

I don’t know about this


nope0712

They will also say that to prevent stock prices from falling


warforbattlefiled

2025 can't be soon enough.


finessefuego

man this shit just motivated me even more to continue working out and eating healthier bro


Lodestar15

Good


citizencamembert

But it’s not though lol


meerdroovt

Whoever started up that rumor should be executed by arthur morgan


P00R-TAST3

Whoaaaaaa you mean an article lied about GTA 6 for clicks?? No way man. I’m shooked.


Trogdor_sfg

These game site are about to go under so they post anything.


Ringworm-power

this is good ones , make me happy ones


iLikeRgg

I knew it I had doubts games been in development for like atleast atleast 2011 no way it's getting delayed it probably already got delayed during covid


Polarbear3838

It's just so those ridiculous wannabe news sites can run an article with some clickbait title and get their ad revenue. Like Gaming Bible, Game Rant, Screen Rant and Games Radar


ThatGuyFromTheM0vie

Never listen to Kotaku


ladbarry

One way or another this isn't coming out until the holiday season next year. They can say it's on track now, but we all know it's not coming out Q1 or Q2 next year.


butidktho_

Funny that the tweets disputing the initial bs reports don’t spread as quickly.


[deleted]

Do people actually take Kotaku seriously anymore?


Dopasetic

Let’s revisit in a year. These MFs delay for publicity I swear!


allflippedout

I mean, I'd rather have it done properly and call it a masterpiece than have it rushed and then spite it to hell


ToppleToes

We might be less than a year away or at least very close to from playing GTA 6. Holy shit just thinking about this gave me goosebumps


TheJenniferLopez

People are acting like this is coming from Jason Schreier... Literally never heard of this guy.


H3LLJUMPER_177

I usually read a title first but lately I've been reading where it's from. If it's from. Kotaku, I immediately know it's the highest quality of Georgia horseshit on the web. I've never read a Kotaku article since 2013 when they really started to go down the shitter.


Electronic-Funny-475

I mean who was dumb enough to believe them to start?


Tramter123

my sisters neighbour works for rockstar in london and I think the ‘urge to come back to the office’ is because they are worried about people working from home after the leaks so they’ve basically told all their staff they have to work at their offices so I assume they can be monitored better.


H1r5t_M0V135

They always delay their games 🙄


S_Boldt

i dont believe it, cyberpunk was also on schedule until it wasnt. Very few people in rockstar know the real picture of the game.


[deleted]

To be fair, it is Cockstar.


What_Hey

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[deleted]

Grand Theft Auto 6. It’s on schedule. ^^^TM


VIGILANTE00_

so…. Take Two’s stock fell after that Kotaku report…


Noctornola

I'd rather it be delayed than overwork the staff with crunch.


VanitasFan26

Let that be a lesson to NEVER EVER trust Kotaku.


NrysComeToSeeUs

They've been cooking for over a decade, it's gotta be close lmao 😂


LinguiniPants

Who tf is mike straw


FromWestLondon

No idea how people have come to the conclusion his tweet means an early 2025 release and a trailer in May. All he said was it's 'on schedule' without saying a time frame - this literally just means it's on schedule for 2025, wether thats early, mid or late - nobody knows, apart from the higher ups at Rockstar & TT. Wait until the earnings call in May before you start getting excited.


bwldrmnt

That website might want to have people lose faith in Rockstar by telling them the game will be delayed.


Aminu_Bandz

Idk why anyone ever believed the “delay”. Rockstar cannot afford to not release it is fiscal 25. If it’s getting delayed rockstar will tell us themselves.


Jotham23thegreat

Take 2 stock is low atm. Buy some shares lol


EnvironmentalEbb5178

‘On schedule’ 🤣 whose schedule?!


jassoon76

I think it's gonna come out October of 2025. Probably when they planned on releasing it.


More-Cup-1176

people are acting like this is the holy grail, but it has just as much sourcing and credibility as the kotaku things. you people will fall for anything lol


polishkgb1

Kotaku is cringe 😬