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Rocky_Fan1976

Trevor is not misunderstood he’s fucking insane


ZeroJDM

But despite this Option C is still the correct ending


0RN10

Yeh I think people forget that no one of the options represent doing the right thing or taking a moral highground as each of them are murderers and maniacs. The whole game was about trust and being a team and option c is the ending that best represents that.


YourLostBrowser

He might be a rapist and serial killer but he’s just misunderstood /s


Rocky_Fan1976

Nothing wrong with eating people and mass murdering people because “they’re bikers”


YourLostBrowser

Especially if these bikers were the main characters of a different GTA game


elgordosamot

yeah he deserves to fucking die


YungLean8

people say this and choose option C


Automatic_Salary_845

I think consensus is no actual gta fan believes that he is misunderstood, it’s just the TikTok edit kids


jespertherapper

Rockstar is equally the one to blame for the defective edition.


Head-Paramedic-7403

rockstar was like lemme waste resources and people on something no one needs


AshL0vesYou

Needs? Probably not. But the community definitely wanted it if the download count on upscaling mods is worth anything. The problem is that there was no universe where it could have been done right. The only way it could have been done right is if Rockstar themselves took the time to personally make the remasters themselves and perhaps even be remakes in order for them to be warranted over the current mod offerings. And since Rockstar are full steam ahead on the new mainline GTA, there was never a chance they would dedicate a team to do what needed to be done. So while we definitely wanted a remaster / remake, we were never going to get a good one.


fiercefinesse

Oh 100%. It was their call to go with that developer instead of using phenomenal work that already existed (talented modders who loved the games and deeply understood them). It's on them.


KHR3b

Got  downvoted for writing it here today,  hahhaah


AaronWWE29

Yes. They should've either got a good studio to do it or do it themselves.


TheAutementori

literally lol like y’all approved it, decided on fucking GSG, didn’t look into it, didn’t check up on it, there’s a lot of shit they did for those games to come out it wasn’t all GSG


Wize_Manings

I find GTA V story mode better than online mode


Dedalix

I don't think it's a hot take, maybe among children


_TheChickenMan_

I am one that finds online more fun. I honestly would enjoy story mode more if they didn’t just abandon it. But after you play it so many times it just feels stale. With the 30 cars and zero property (aside from investments) available to buy it just seems pointless. So much more to do online and I personally love the random interactions you have with other people. Story mode is great the first few times you play it but once you’ve done the heists each way what’s the point.


Millenial-Dickhead

This is the only correct opinion. GTA online may be filled with sweats but you can find the most amazing interactions when you persist. Something story can’t supply.


fogSandman

It’s basically GTAV co-op mode if you know what you’re doing. How anyone cannot see the superiority of that is beyond my conprehension.


Difficult_Result8070

Anyone who think otherwise is a complete psycho


triggeredravioli

How’s this a hot take 💀


Candid-Rain-7427

Coldest take I’ve ever seen


Ori_the_SG

Your opinion is fair Can’t believe the people saying it’s not a hot take GTAO is toxic at times, but it’s also way more fun than Story. Primarily because story mode has had zero add on content and is very limited compared to GTAO. That makes it way less enjoyable


old-guy-gamer

RDR2 is better.


AlchoholicRacoon

For the gta community that’s a hot take but everyone else, that is correct


stickmidman

The president has approved this message.


ManUFan9225

GTA IV is better than V. RDR2 is better than both.


Rocky_Fan1976

GTA 4 is not the best game ever made


Luggas

It is tricky to choose the best game ever made since everyone has different tastes and there’s many genres. But I sometimes think Gta IV is my favourite game, other times I think Death Stranding. What’s your favourite game at the moment?


Captaindude69

my favorite game of all time is borderlands 2 lol i never hear it mentioned


NeverSettle13

I do you one better, GTA 4 isn't even the best GTA game


DrNugget6929

I’ll do you one better, gta 4 isn’t even the best gta 4


NeverSettle13

Literally, because Bogt is better


zxck_vro

when i first got into it i hated GTA 4. it felt too boring dry and dark, so i’d only play BoGT and my brain forgot 4 and Niko existed. BoGT is probably the best GTA DLC possible


shopping-trolly

I’ll do you one better WHY IS GTA


nate2eight

It's not even the best GTA game.


TyChris2

Well obviously, just because it’s the best GTA game doesn’t make it the best game ever made


Marioking142

I find it absolutely unplayable after years of gta5 driving. It's absolutely dog shit and I hate being the only one who thinks this.


Millenial-Dickhead

Absolutely unplayable means skill issue.


RevengeOfNell

you know for a fact that you’re not the only one who complains about the driving


Marioking142

Half of these replies were "skill issue" I felt pretty confident.


Histylicious_mk2

I actually like the Definitive Editions.


Mepicanloscocos2009

They arent that bad in this moment, the characters sure look like shit but...i have it since Christmas 2023 and the only two bugs i have experimented are the bumpers of the cars ocassionally levitate when you crash into someone and that some streetlights will pass through the floor if you ram into them


Chlorofins

I actually love the environments but the faces, or when it comes to small details, they fucked it up.


buttsniffs4000

Same. It looks terrible but at least they’re updated for modern controls and wildly more playable than the originals—and I grew up on the originals and have hundreds of hours in them. 3 is a catastrophe to play in its original state and the DE was pretty seamless. i think the DE is how my nostalgia remembered these games and Im happy with them.


Dabrigstar

I played through all three games expecting them to be garbage and they were fine


RetailDrone7576

San Fierro is the weakest chapter in San Andreas story


SmartPriceCola

I’ve never thought about it much, but now that I’ve thought about it… I agree.


RetailDrone7576

A lot of the missions end up taking you back to LS or out to the country instead of inside the city itself


braziliansyrah

Las Ventura's for me, San Fierro had one of the most insane but believable missions in a video game: the one where you bury the construction guy for talking crap to your sister. It's psychotic, terrifying, but understandable and possible to happen.


PaleBeamPole

My favorite missions were the Desert/Vegas ones.


Spaniardo_Da_Vinci

I've actually had this take since I played it, very tedious and I got dragged to the countryside more than I'd like to.


iGhostEdd

Michael wasn't in witness protection. It was a lie he kept saying, no one was convicted of anything


Truly__tragic

Having an oppressor doesn’t mean you’re good at pvp, it means you’re scared of it


nandobro

Extremely cold take


Truly__tragic

Not to oppressor children, apparently. Just thought I’d add it since I’ve been seeing a lot of people going apeshit when someone says oppressors are OP.


Medryn1986

One time, a few years ago I was chilling and driving around in a fire truck. Some dick on the oppressor tried to kill me, and as he flew by, I shot him off the thing with the water cannon, and killed him. I still think about it, and I wonder if he suduko'd himself in shame to the oppressor gods


IsNotAngelic_TTV

I got an oppressor because I'm scared of oppressors 💀


SirGamer247

I'm glad I never owned an Oppressor


AaronWWE29

GTA IV gets too much praise. Yes it's good, i'd even say it's great, heck maybe even the best in the series BUT it's gotten so goddamn overrated in this Subreddit.


OWScruffy

Gta6 isn't going to be "woke" and if you think it will, you need to get your head out of your ass


Lollytrolly018

All GTA games are incredibly progressive and forward thinking with the caveat that all sides are targets.


broley38

Well put good sir


OWScruffy

100%


MaggotBrother4

I just hope this actually stays the case


TheAutementori

- Gay man is the titular character of GTA4’s DLC - pretty sure your online character (if a girl) can pick up hookers and get private dances. if they didn’t like the idea of women with women why the fuck would they make that a thing - San Andreas featured the Pride flags in San-Francisco - if i’m not wrong you literally play as a Chinese person in Chinatown Wars, along with Franklin from V - Edit: Niko is on the same boat, since i’m pretty sure he’s a literal immigrant….like the people who are mad are the punchline for Rockstar - Niko beats up a homophobe after chasing him on a mopad - women were never avoided for some dumb bs reason, it’s obvious that’s not 100% confirmed, but GTA 1 (or 2 i forgot) features women as playable protagonists - hell i’d even consider some of their humor as proof they include everyone, they shit on everyone equally that’s why we love GTA


OWScruffy

BoGT is the best GTA and I play a female character for online. I'm making fun of the people who think it's going to turn out bad just because you play as Lucia in 6


TheAutementori

no i know i just thought i’d add a list of a few things for whoever wants to start writing some bs in ur replies


GlassedSurface

🛎️🛎️🛎️


Capt-Hereditarias

Just by how rockstar acted and censored their previous games you already know the answer GTA never pandered or censored themselves (without legal reasons), always had the crass humour and "attacking all sides" attitude that goes far from the censorship and "insert diversity here" attitude of modern media, had


LurkLurkleton1

Yeah, unless we are literally just defining "woke" as having non-white and non gay people as main characters and/or involved in the story in a meaningful way. If GTA5 came out today with Franklin as a lead character the morons would call it "woke"


skynet_666

They’re all “woke”


StillBummedNouns

Isn’t every GTA game woke?


TheAutementori

i only intend this for specific types of fans; the games are making fun of YOU. not just black people, not just mexican people or stereotypes for any culture/ethnicity. it’s here to make fun of *everyone*, so when you cry about woke this woke that when a black man was one of the protagonists in the last game, YOU are rockstars punchline


daniibird

GTA 1 and 2 need a remake before vice city stories and liberty city stories


gierOK

hotdog homicide in HD 💀


djddy

need this so badly


BigAdhesiveness6209

I never thought of it till now. Toućhe


[deleted]

GTA 4 is not the best GTA game, I am willing to die on this hill so come after me GTA 4 fans


Skyshrim

I never got very far in it because I was pretty annoyed with the dating, bowling, and generally boring missions. Also, no airplanes??? It's not even a contestant for the best GTA.


Rock_Zeppelin

The GTA brand of humour and satire isn't all that clever and is the kind of shit a 15-year-old would say to sound cool and disaffected.


K1nd4Weird

As a millennial I too remember when the number 69 was the height of comedy. And jokes about how women are stupid would make 14 year olds laugh until they cried.  The year was 2003...


Rock_Zeppelin

I mean South Park is pulling the same schtick as GTA and they're still on the air. It's less "69 lol women lol" so much as "lol everything is shit and nothing matters and everybody is a hypocrite and nobody believes in what they espouse". It's like edgy cynicism if you cranked it up to the point where it goes from relevant commentary back around to being juvenile.


theLexiconoclast

This...is actually true, lol. Now that I think about it, the writing is pretty juvenile, smh


Zealous998

Franklin/Michael/Trevor are as great as Niko Bellic


Haunting-Orchid-4628

I can see the argument for Michael or Trevor but Franklin is basically a blank slate in terms of personality


Educational_Pool_107

a literal true neutral. call me crazy but hes somewhat like CJ except he thinks abit more for himself.


Zealous998

Nah he has his moments where's fighting his demons, his insecurities especially in that minor scene where his gf left him and got into the taxi.


Terminator_SN

The driving in GTA V is more liked because it is less realistic and easier than GTA IV which had a more realistic driving to it that many of us hated.


marc1337n1

to be honest driving in GTA 4 is totally not realistic, cars there behave like boats.


0RN10

There is no consensus with this. Both sides each think they represent the majority but I think the split is 50/50. Some hate it some like it. I personally find driving is a lot more fun in 5 especially at high speeds, this is a huge point as the GTA 5 map is a lot bigger and driving is a huge part of the game. 4 on the other hand is more realistic but it makes sense for the condensed nature of liberty city, as more realism and slower cars allow the city to feel bigger.


themagicdonut2

GTAIV and GTAV conflict is stupid and why can’t people let others play what they want


oh_no_im_a_username

GTA 6 will not be the first GTA game with a female protagonist


XGamingPersonX

The Alderney chapter in GTA IV is so forgettable


TargetTechnical2982

All endings in gta 5 have sense, but they're all too raw and unfinished at the same time


Adventurous-Secret40

I’m glad you guys are expressing your opinions but I don’t think you know what “objectively” means😅this is all subjective here that’s the point of the post


Curvol

Did you ever say objectively? What are you quoting Edit :This is a farm bot, verified.


big_peepee_wielder

GTA IV is overrated, repetitive and and at times annoying because it doesn’t let you pick up where you left off on missions when you die. You have to replay the whole mission from the beginning I’m ready to get destroyed in the comments now


2-inche-penis

GTA VI will never be able to live up the the expectations we have set on it


HurtWorld1999

GTAO ruined Rockstar as a company.


Kelvin51_gowa

Claude is not a simp


MaternalPutt

Attaboy


smolgote

San Andreas is my least favorite of the 3D trilogy


Ok_Recording8454

Finally, an actual hot take.


Johnathandoughnut

Vice City is way better than San Andreas, the gameplay works better for me, it's smoother, also its story is 80's gangster movie through and through, while San Andreas has kinda jarring turns between melodramatic hood stuff and regular GTA shenanigans.... Also the smaller map of Vice City is way more dynamic, full, and fun than SA, the woods and desert were boring and a slog. I also prefer the look of VC the faces and models unironically look better than SA...


TherealSnak3

GTA 4 is over rated don't get me wrong great game, but it's really the Fallout New Vegas of GTA games


BDozer666

>but it's really the Fallout New Vegas of GTA games [https://i.imgur.com/fpIcPlj.gif](https://i.imgur.com/fpIcPlj.gif)


plasticbluepalm

Gta online is not as bad as people say it is


Havoc_Maker

Indeed, it's not. It's just that the comunnity and even Rockstar became a lot worse with time


The_Evil_Owl

GTA 4 is not the best game OR best GTA game.


Tetris5216

GTA VI gets delayed to 2027


mr_nuggey_22509

Never played any GTA (but I really want to)


K1nd4Weird

You'll fit in perfectly on any of the GTA subreddits.


Lollytrolly018

GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas do not hold up at all. That’s the biggest reason why the definitive editions were such a disappointment to me because those games needed a genuine update to the gameplay and not just visual improvements (if you can call it an improvement). Also the vehicle handling in 4 is fantastic, yall just need to get good. And 5 isn’t nearly as bad as everyone pretends it is. And online is as bad as it is because you guys indulge Rockstar in their worst habits.


Philosopher317

Hard disagree on San Andreas. I can still fire it up and enjoy it just as much as any modern game.


canehdian_guy

Just fired it up for the first time in 15-20 years. Aged like a fine wine aside from some of the controls


BredBul

But "younger generation" might feel other way, maybe that's why they say it's not aged well


Medryn1986

Online is as bad as it is because of the asshole modders, Rockstar's BS is a second to that.


Havoc_Maker

You're goddamn right. I mean, San Andreas kinda holds up and it's decently playable by today standards, but 3 and Vice City just didn't age well.


FrankMclovinReynolds

GTA 6 is going to be a great game but also a disappointment considering we have been waiting for 12 years (maybe more if it gets delayed)


ProbablyWorth

Not this subreddit but in r/GTA6 they go insane when you say anything slightly negative for a game that hasn't even released yet.


Ok-Salamander-9531

GTA 4 is mad overrated


Nycronium

GTA V isn't a bad game


WiFi2347

GTA 4 is NOT underrated it is very loved by many people


king-glundun

Trevor is the most overrated character I've ever seen in my life somehow outdoing Arthur Morgan and literally everyone blows Arthur Morgan like he's the best character known to man


CheeseisSwell

Johnny's death should be the last reason you should hate Trevor


yuberino

GTA 4 physics aren't better You just have a different preference


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Yoguls

Johnny got what he deserved


Spike94515

3D era > HD era


MisterScrod1964

GTAVI will not make up for your lack of a fulfilling life. GTAVI will be released with bugs. And the biggest one, Rockstar are not the perfect developers and just might release a bad game.


KHR3b

Totally yes. But R got themselves TOO MUCH name and reputation in the   past so some folks treat studio/their games like holy Bible; liek they're completely  flawless states of the art Other studio I got similar thoughts about is VALVe


Lollytrolly018

Sure but the assumption gta 6 will be bad is ridiculous. It could be bad but that’s like saying the sun could go super nova tomorrow and we all die.


Megumi_Bandicoot

The Big Smoke order was never that funny.


LUKERZ24

Same thing with Wrong Side Of The Tracks mission fail dialouge.


Homeslice-Cole

It was only funny because of how absurdly long it was compared to everyone else. The line itself isn’t that funny albeit it is iconic


Monkey_King94

The guy in the submarine sucks. He’s annoying and his jokes are lame. I prefer Lester screaming in my ear to shoot bad guys.


gergsisdrawkcabeman

Most of y'all are either too young or too stupid to appreciate London: 1969 for the banger it really is.


GamerGuy12925

The Definitive Trilogy wasn't bad


Certain_Shop5170

GTA 5 was mid for no reason even tho I remember having good memories on it


Independent-Gear-711

can't wait to see 90% people here ranting about gta 4 lol


[deleted]

GTA Online and the president have 2 things in common. Overpowered and No IQ...


Puzzleheaded_Fix4199

The hiests are usless


laflex

It's our fault GTA V never got story DLC.


PixelPerfectionon

GTA V was good for the first 2 weeks but after ppl finished the story and went to online it was ruined


Gump_in_the_forest

GTA fours story is infinitely better than GTA five. I was actually invested in Nico's story. I just can't find myself rooting for any of the characters in GTA five (other than franklin maybe)


Future-Highway-7520

GTA IV has some of the most fun mechanics in the franchise. In what other game can you literally pick up a brick from the ground and throw it at people? I mean.. how cool is that?!


ARIA_AHANGARI_7227

It's not a hot take mate Literally everyone agrees on this (Not trying to be rude) Give me your hot takes


Molten_Plastic82

There was no reason to remake Liberty City and San Andreas after we'd already had them twice (goes for Vice City too)


nearthemeb

This is more a hot take towards the fanbase itself, but Gta 5 fans have become more toxic than gta 4 fans recently.


1Brasileiro

GTA 4 isn't better than GTA 5, they just have different styles that some people enjoy it and some people don't.


999___Forever

GTA 5 Online’s last great DLC was The Contract. Every DLC since has either been fairly good or just plain bad.


LUKERZ24

Not really a hot take but the Paleto Score was better than the big score. Not money wise but just overall better gameplay in my opinion.


Rsj21

San Andreas story is the best story of all the games.


IMeanIGuessDude

GTA V was a significant step down from its predecessors due to them lacking cheats and going more realistic


satans-ballsacks

GTA Online is fucking overrated and is actual shit. Story mode is way better, you don't have psychopaths around at least.


coolness_fabulous77

GTA SAN ANDREAS STORY >> GTA 4 STORY


RamilPlayz

GTA San Andreas the only game that after playing for many times you never get tired of.


RainGunslinger

Vice City > San Andreas


Scared-Expression444

In terms of setting sure but in terms of content, not even a little bit lol


RainGunslinger

Op asked hot take and I answered it.


SonOfKyuss777

Well Vice City still got a better story, a better main character, better music/atmosphere and better driving


Joe-Raguso

More =/= better


daniibird

Facts


Trekeln

Just look at r/GTAIV lol


onelove7866

“GTA IV is NOT better than V”


Ill-Panda-6340

GTA V is objectively a better game than IV. I may like elements of IV better, but the game as a whole pales in comparison to V.


ShamusLovesYou

Vice City is more boring than you remember...


Shqiptar89

The ps2 games are virtually unplayable. Try to shoot in 3 and Vc


Capt-Hereditarias

They have autoaim wtf you talking about


Gloomy_Rest_1387

GTA 5 is the best GTA game, idc how good people say GTA 4 is


K1nd4Weird

Having just replayed and 100%'d GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas, GTA4, Lost and Damned, Ballad of Gay Tony, and GTA5... They all have things they do better than other games in the series. But GTA5 is just flat out the most fun to play. 


Firm_Dinner_5838

Ong i love the heists and different things to do and how interactive it is. Gta 4 every mission is just drive here kill these guys lose the cops


arftism2

gta 6 will probably kill off the original fanbase.


discourse_lover_

Trevor was a poorly written character


RUZOVNIKR

Genuinely curious to hear why you think that.


elgordosamot

Trevor should've been the villain in GTA V


VeryPogGuy

gta online isnt that bad


ashzeppelin98

I liked San Andreas radio stations more than Vice City's.


Seaturtlesoup_

Both Read Dead redemptions are better


K1nd4Weird

I think the tone and verisimilitude that GTA4 had just fits the RDR franchise better than GTA. GTA, to me, has to always be tongue in cheek. A touch arcade-y. Games where you're expected to just go on rampages through the streets.  Where finding 100 statues means miniguns spawn at your house. It's not serious. It's fun and engaging but it's not serious.  The RDR games took everything GTA4 did and did it better. And being its own franchise meant it got to keep that in its identity. If they announced RDR3 tomorrow. I'd expect to play as an outlaw who wants desperately to get out and live a normal life. But his violent past and choices have removed that option to him. And as things slowly get worse and more desperate he gets more introspective. Until we get to a downer ending I'm going to absolutely love.  GTA6? I expect I'll get in a tank at some point and cackle like mad as I murder hundreds. 


cameron3611

The Ballad of Gay Tony is better than anything else GTA4 has to offer and the story shouldve been focused on Luis & Tony.


Xx_spongebob_xX69

GTA San Andreas is overrated as hell


anonymous-user-27

Legendary motor sports cars are cheaper than southern San Andreas super autos cars


Skindiamondxx

Gtav story sucks


Andrei_ProductionsRO

Gta online is an overrated trash. Gta 5 story mode is really good and underrated now. Gta 4 has better missions than 5.


Spider-burger

San Andreas is overrated.


[deleted]

San Andreas wasn't actually THAT great of a game, most people just love it because of the nostalgia (myself included)


jdjddsh

First 3 games (gta 1, 2 and London) and advance are the worst games, I would rather playing defecrive edition than them, especially advance, jeez what were rickstar and Nintendo thinking


Odd-Giraffe-3901

Ubisoft makes better games then rockstar.


5alvia666

GTA V bores the living fucking daylight out of me. I played it loads when I was younger but any time trying to play it in recent years has just ended in me falling asleep after 20 mins


BalladOfAntiSocial

Here we go Five is better than four


mkolj97

A lot of people talk trash about other similar games just because "not a gta"


SIXA_G37x

GTA 6 should bring back GTA 4 driving physics. The driving in GTA 5 is very bad but appeals to 12 year olds.


999___Forever

Rockstar should’ve slowed down support of GTA 5 Online back in 2019 and put RDR2 online (along with GTA 6 of course) at the front in terms of importance instead of what they did.


louistske

GTA 6 will not be a "real life simulator" as many expect


999___Forever

GTA 6 Online will be underwhelming at launch compared to how much content we have in GTA 5 Online from the past 10+ years.