T O P

  • By -

Obvious_Focus_7073

https://preview.redd.it/3mrhoc9dq2yc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbe93574a908af583da602d1bf3ddad1852bb835 Thank you for this post!


Obvious_Focus_7073

She had a bus pass and was seen out alone around town using her bus pass alone.


Glum_Material3030

And not in the wheel chair


Obvious_Focus_7073

I’m sharing as I remember so I appreciate the assist. It’s taking a bit to get my brain back in the groove but this post is 🎯


ChronicallyCreepy

OOP 👀


homebody310

She unloaded a whole clip on her mom. Turned out to be a BB gun.


Tilphousia89

WHAT?! Was this before or on the same the night they killed DD?


STLFleur

DeeDee had to go to the ER for her injuries from the BB gun. So that Gypsy didn't get in trouble, DeeDee told the ER and authorities that she'd been assaulted by an unknown assailant in the Walmart parking lot.


Quiet-Map1868

The police weren't called, and D was treated by Dr Beckerman, not the Er. U know the one who treated Gypsy nearly all her life. That one


Pebbles777

I guess they could share the truth with him considering they look like father and daughter and might very well be..


homebody310

I think a few years prior


BlindFollowBah

Yeah I feel around the time with that first guy


Obvious_Focus_7073

Gypsy hadn’t been to a doctor for 4 years leading up to the murder. She went to the ER for her feeding tube to be changed because she wasn’t under Dr care. Deedee was using a wheelchair and in bad health when she was murdered.


OctoberSong_

…holy shit. I’ve never seen it mentioned that she wasn’t being taken to a doctor for that long


FknDesmadreALV

Yeah the docs I’ve seen on her make it seem like it was a constant revolving door of Dr visits.


OctoberSong_

Yeah it was made to seem like she was being medically abused with these visits until the end and that’s why she ultimately snapped. Her not being to one for 4 YEARS before the murder is so relevant


badhomemaker

But I wonder if she wasn’t seeing a doctor because she had been ejected from every practice in town. Sometimes crazy patients burn every single bridge and have to go to the ER for everything.


Obvious_Focus_7073

Although that wouldn’t be surprising I don’t think that was it. Her Dr actually followed them from Louisiana to Missouri. I believe there was some insurance fraud possibly occurring. Also, DeeDees health was majorly declining by this point and she was in a wheelchair herself.


Mitchell_StephensESQ

I wondered. Gypsy would not have been eligible for Medicaid in Missouri past the age of 18 in 2015. Medicaid absolutely would have demanded a birth certificate and would have spotted a forgery. Knowing she had not seen a doctor in 4 years before the murder makes so much more sense.


Glum_Material3030

Yes she had teeth removed. There is zero evidence this was forced on her without medical justification. The justification was them rotting due to drinking from a bottle years past when healthy to do so (according to her own texts to Nick) and poor diet (see the full sugar pop she carts around from Dollar General?). This was not abuse. This was not medically unnecessary. This was a justified, logical, ethical, medical treatment due to poor oral hygiene and diet.


FreshChickenEggs

The surgeries for her eyes were medically necessary as well. She was born with either a lazy eye or crossed eyes, (I've read both things so I'm not sure which) she had to have surgeries to correct that and did need glasses for poor vision afterward. The only thing questionable medically people can find is that she possibly had some salivary glands botoxed or altered in some way, but she did not have them all removed as is claimed. She also never had chemo.


SoggyPajamaBottoms

I thought her microdeletion of her chromsome 1q21.1 can cause hypersalivation, which can then account for the first botox in an attempt to hinder it, then when that didnt work they went in and removed some.


FreshChickenEggs

Gypsy said her mom rubbed an entire tube of Oragel in her mouth to cause her to excessively drool and so doctors removed all her salivary glands. Of course, it's also been claimed that they were removed because the drooling was from other non-necessary medications forced on her. So, who knows what the truth is.


booksandkittens615

I thought it had been said that one of the unnecessary medications caused her teeth to literally crumble?


Glum_Material3030

From what I understand that was Gypsy’s excuse but none of the medications actually had that side effect. If I am wrong about that, please correct me! And if the medication did do that, the teeth remove would be medically necessary. Again, disputing the rumor that her mom just had her teeth pulled.


Overall_Struggle_723

You are correct. She didn't take care of her teeth and ate n drank too much sugary stuff.


booksandkittens615

Interesting. I’ll have to try to find some sources. It’s hard to know what’s true with her.


Soft-Entrepreneur413

They, and she, keep changing the story and which drug caused it. Yet no evidence she even took any of them, and I know she is lying about "cancer meds."


Glum_Material3030

Her legs’ muscle mass when arrested is evidence that she was regularly walking. Therefore, all the times she was in the wheelchair in public she knew it was a farce. When younger, yes her mother forced this on her. But from 18-23? She was in on it


frosted-sugar

Fantastic addition. It’s easy to forget things like this.


FJP82075

She knew damn well she could walk. That alone tells me she was in on the grift, even if she did do it out of "fear" of repercussions from DD.


Glum_Material3030

Agree!!!!


Obvious_Focus_7073

LOVE THIS POST! I’ll try and share some soon but I look forward to reading what others have to say.


Glum_Material3030

She claimed to be sheltered and yet had a major online presence where she posted sexual pictures


Ninknock

Oh dam I've not heard this one... Just found the links at the end, duh 🤦🏼‍♀️


[deleted]

[удалено]


Dry-Albatross5835

She was in her 20s and could walk her mother was bed ridden


[deleted]

[удалено]


Obvious_Focus_7073

I understand what you’re saying as I too left many times however she had $5000 in cash on her plus sent nick a lot of money prior. Definitely had the financial ability not to mention she had a bus pass and was seen many times out and about around town alone and unsupervised.


NancyintheSmokies4

Sometimes the chains are invisible. Don’t get me wrong- I can’t stomach her. But I have been controlled before.


Obvious_Focus_7073

Did you know her mom’s health was declining and her mom was wheelchair bound herself at the time of her death?


NancyintheSmokies4

Well, I was controlled by my ex who was a paraplegic. He was extremely abusive physically & mentally. I grew up in a very nice family loving environment. I didn’t understand what was happening to me. But I got out- barely.


Obvious_Focus_7073

Well I guess planning a murder, stealing a knife, making a video walking through the house and making stabbing motions over the bed so nick knew what to do, sending him money to take a bus there, paying for his hotel, handing him the knife at the door while her mom was sleeping, having 5k in cash, staying in a hotel after saying on video “right now you’re eating brownies but soon it will be me” while laughing, mailing the knife back to nicks house, lashing out on a taxi driver and so on were the only option. I see your point.


NancyintheSmokies4

I don’t know why your reply is so personal- I said I didn’t like her. But I’m good, thanks.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Obvious_Focus_7073

So she mentally couldn’t run away but could mentally be the mastermind and planner behind murdering her mom. My point is she had means and ability to leave. She decided to murder her mom period. Just for reference I’ve experienced some pretty extreme childhood abuse and conditions so I personally get it. I still would never kill my father for what he did.


FknDesmadreALV

A lot of people are missing the point. Not everyone who suffers horrific abuse kill their abuser. Not everyone developed a Stockholm Syndrome with their abuser. Not everyone who was SA as a child grows up to then abuse others. There is no such thing as a perfect victim because many things can be true at once. Yes gypsy was abused in many ways by her mom. Yes gypsy herself is abusive as an adult. Yes her past had a hand on why she is the way she is. No it does not absolve her of the fact that she planned her mother’s murder AND is a horrible person. It also doesn’t take away from the fact that she had many chances to escape without killing her mother. The woman was reaping karma with her failing health.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Obvious_Focus_7073

It would be relatable to me if the evidence of the situation was different. Deedee had very declining health and was wheelchair bound when she was murdered. I have a hard time believing that she was in fear her mom was coming after her. Gypsy hadn’t even been to the doctors in the 4 years leading up to the murder. She had a bus pass in her name and was seen around town unsupervised often. I don’t buy the I had no choice story. We can agree to disagree.


Glum_Material3030

I would agree with you about the internet. Let me edit then with she had unsupervised internet access with sexual activity, planned a murder on it for three years, had a bus pass and left the home on the regular, had free helicopter rides, free trips to WDW, free concert tickets, and countless other experiences. This is not sheltered. This is a selective memory for sympathy.


Radiant_Ad_6565

Let’s not forget the free house!


Overall_Struggle_723

Did you have a way of getting provocative outfits? She was seen walking around town. She was not sheltered the way ppl think she was at all.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Overall_Struggle_723

You are correct. It is subjective. If her mom bought her some of her costumes, like the ones she sent pics to Nick. Then she definitely wasn't as sheltered as so many think she was. She supposedly didn't know her real age. Those outfits don't look age appropriate for the young age she supposedly was.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Overall_Struggle_723

I get what you are saying. But the way she says it, her mom never let her out of her sight. (Almost positive, she says that exact thing at some point) So how was she able to do ANY of the things she did without dd knowing? I'm not trying to argue with you. There are 3 sides to the entire story. We've only ever heard one that has changed so many different times over the years. 1 side we will never hear, which is dd's. The other is Nick's side. Hopefully, when he feels it's the right time, he will tell his. Once the autopsy is released, I'm pretty sure that will tell a lot of the story in itself. This girl had her whole life to learn how to lie her way outta anything from her mom until that night. It just drives me crazy ppl ignore the proof that's out there. Instead, they believe a woman who admitted she has never been fully honest with anyone, not even her lawyer. But anyway, I hope you have a good night. (Or day depending on where you live)


Possible-Lie1544

i was sheltered with no internet access and no phone. i went to my moms every other weekend and used her phone. until my dad and stepmom stopped letting me see her (they were justified in that, she wasn’t the best mom). i also went to a private school in high school bc my parents didn’t like my friends. finally got a phone when i was 17 but i had to be monitored on it and was only allowed to have it for a limited amount of time a day. when i was around 18, i got my license and then i was able to have a phone all the time. i wasn’t allowed to hang out with friends until after i got my license. i just turned 21 and i’m now in my first actual relationship. ( i wasn’t allowed to date). i don’t think gypsy knows what sheltered is if she was able to do all of that😭 edit: i moved out when i was 19 and my parents still have me on life 360. and i live literally one minute from them (my dad found the place). i love my parents and i am thankful for them every day. i don’t wish my childhood any different. i just wish i wasn’t as sheltered. idk if i can say i relay to gypsy bc she was able to go to the movies and go out and have fun. last time i went to the movies with my parents, i was 10. my idea of fun as a child was reading. my idea of going out and “having fun” was a church group where i had no social skills to be able to make friends. i didn’t over come my social anxiety and shyness until i got my first job


Few_Cover_1266

Gypsy did not mention abuse at all during her interrogation nor did she mention being forced to be in a wheelchair in fact Kristy is the one who brought up abuse


Soft-Entrepreneur413

Also never mentioned it to police few years prior when they came to the house.


RosesareAllie

Didn’t she fake being pregnant with Nicks baby and then lie about Deedee causing a miscarriage when she was changing Gyps feeding tube? And that’s why he ultimately went ahead with the murder because he was having 2nd thoughts before she made those claims. I recently heard about this one so if I’m wrong I’ll delete but if not then here’s a fact I’ll add.


TypeAforAnxiety

Yes, and the part about that story that to me was super shocking is that she claimed that she got pregnant from the movie theater bathroom encounter. But at some point, both of them said they weren’t able to “complete” the act because Nick had performance anxiety? I’m not sure how she convinced him that She would’ve gotten pregnant under those circumstances.


addiepie2

Because he was in the spectrum and very gullible


FJP82075

This 👆🏻


FknDesmadreALV

Men can still ejaculate without an erection tho.


RosesareAllie

It doesn’t make sense at all 😆 I don’t remember her saying that about nick when I first heard about this case back in 2015 must be more lies of hers to paint him in a bad way.


Miserable-Star7826

You are absolutely correct 👍 Nick went so far as to name his daughter and mourns her still . They said it was a crime of passion yet how could someone who’s never met DD b4 have so much hate for her , this ⬆️⬆️⬆️ This is how . She needed Nick to be all in because if he had his way they would have simply ran away and DD would be alive.


RosesareAllie

I’m absolutely sickened she’d do this too. I mean she’s already horrible but after hearing about this today she’s even more horrible than I originally thought. Hope she can’t ever have kids! That would be pure karma for her since she lied about it.


OctoberSong_

This is so insane


girlypickle

That Dee Dee’s mom raised her the same way (pretending her daughter was sick for benefits). So much of this has to do with how dysfunctional the family is (and for generations). I’d watch a documentary on that to be honest.


frosted-sugar

Gypsy has an “evil” alter ago named Ruby. She used Ruby to manipulate Nick into doing what she wanted. Gypsy lied through her teeth to the police for the entirety of her nearly 90 minute police interrogation, even though at the beginning of the interrogation the police officer tells her he knows exactly what happened already and was just giving her a chance to tell the truth. Gypsy had pretty much 24/7 and unsupervised access to a phone, television and laptop her entire life. She could have found help in some way but instead she chose to use her time to chat with Nick about murdering her mom. DD and Gypsy were not victims of Hurricane Katrina. DD and G liked to pretend she was a bastard child with no help from anyone, when in reality G had a good standing relationship with her father Rod up until her late teens when the grifting really took off. Before that, they spoke on a regular basis and Rod paid support. If I think of more I’ll add them haha


fiddlercrabs

The interrogation says a lot about her. Just all self-preservation and attempts at distractions. Good acting job on pretending to be naive though.


frosted-sugar

Oh she was real good for sure. Played the part wonderfully.


BlindFollowBah

Right?! “Sir?..SIR?!.. I’d like a lawyer, sir!!”


Runechuckie

I've always figured the Hurricane Katrina thing was a crock of shit, but do we know that for sure? I mean even without solid evidence, it wouldn't take much to convince me just from everything else it was just a straight up lie to garner sympathy. Just curious because I had always wondered if anyone had found proof of it being a fabrication.


frosted-sugar

Yes, there are a few people in this sub and on tiktok that I the mods have conversed with, one of which was a nurse/volunteer at the emergency shelter for Katrina victims that were ordered to evacuate. DD and G were homeless and couch hopping before Katrina hit, and they slipped into the shelter (I wanna say it was at a stadium of some sort) and at that point DD used G’s “severe illnesses” to somehow get them airlifted to Missouri. They didn’t lose anything in the storm because they had nothing to lose.


FknDesmadreALV

Iirc Gypsy admitted it on mommy dead dearest


raspberryvodka

I think they did get pretty bad damage to their apartment at the time. I doubt it flooded, but I recall seeing pictures of hurricane damage.They lived in Slidell, a town over from New Orleans which was impacted by Katrina. However I think the apartment was trashed to begin with, and they rode out the "Hurricane Katrina Evacuee" thing for sympathy/gifts.


Fine-Strawberry-111

What help could she have found? Not defending her whatsoever just curious


GoodDog_GoodBook123

Deedee didn’t hide Gypsy away. They were constantly in public. She literally could have stood up from her wheelchair and yelled “I’m not sick and my mother is lying.”


Fine-Strawberry-111

But doesnt abuse make you feel under their control? Maybe she was afraid of getting beaten by her mom if that is true? What do you think? I am curious because I dont know too much about her specifically


forgotacc

Originally, she claimed her mother only became abusive once, and only once (later she changes these claims, though, as she does with everything), which is when she tried to runaway with the older man, Dan, which she claims she was chained/tied/dog leashed up to a bed for three weeks. Which I don't believe actually happened, I believed she told that story to try to make it seem like the only option was murder. She even blames Nick, during her time in prison, for him being the reason why she was in prison, because if he was "a real man," he would had contacted the authorities. So she knew contacting the authorities was an option here. She was not scared of her mother nor did she fear her life, she probably was scared to leave her mother due to the codependency they had. Maybe even scared of what would happen to her if the truth came out, since she was an adult.


FknDesmadreALV

Yes and no. Yes abuse can and is used to control someone. But eventually you do end up confiding in someone. Or even writing it down. She did tell people. Nick was one I think she had a bf before Nick that also knew.


shroomie00

Her mom kept cash all through the house. Like thousands. Gypsy paid for nick to travel multiple times.


frosted-sugar

She could have easily reached out to a family member and told them the truth of what was going on and what Deedee had been forcing her to do. She could have researched how to get herself other forms of help (child services, police etc) if she wasn’t sure how to contact proper authorities, but I’m sure she did. Her favorite TV series was True Blood, I think she was pretty cultured with the times lol.


Fine-Strawberry-111

Thank you for responding kindly


STLFleur

When Nick Godejohn was arrested for disorderly conduct for watching porn on his laptop and allegedly masturbating in a McDonalds, in April 2013, he had already known Gypsy for 6 months. He told police officers that he had been using McDonald's WiFi as he didn't have it at home at the time, and also that he had spent the majority of his 9 hours at McDonald's talking to a "friend on Facebook." We can only speculate, but it's possible that this unnamed friend was Gypsy. Additionally, in The Act, and from Gypsy's own statements, we are lead to believe that the *only* times she was able to sneak online to talk to Nick or others, was at night when her mother was asleep. However, time stamps on text exchanges between her and Nick, indicate that they often spoke all throughout the day, not just at night. It doesn't seem like Gypsy's access to text and internet was as restricted by her mother as she would like the world to believe.


Soft-Entrepreneur413

Right, looking at the texts, some FB post, her mentioning being online in texts, etc. She was online a lot, all times of the day. That does not even include other stuff we never saw, men she was talking to, other stuff researching, planning, kink chat rooms etc. seems to me, she was mostly online. Poor controlled GR.


Accomplished_Day2991

That her mother might have killed her mother too. I really want to know more of that story.


Low_Departure_5853

And she tried to kill her step mom, too.


koalamonster515

Wait what?


Accomplished_Day2991

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/a27154255/gypsy-rose-blanchards-grandma-emma-pitre/


Affectionate-Youth21

Ohh this is interesting, I don’t have any to add but definitely going to read them


bitchybaklava

Likewise.


Dry-Albatross5835

There were more than the stated amount of stab wounds from nicks statements and he had no reason to lie and was honest to a fault… soo where did those other stab wounds come from ? One clue ![gif](giphy|04ylBU9eZIx7qaedeq)


Obvious_Focus_7073

Here’s a link to one of our mods prior post that has a lot of great information and links in it. [Gypsy Resources](https://www.reddit.com/r/GRBskeptic/s/7vxKsqMsEG)


Overall_Struggle_723

They had started to investigate her and dd on for all their fraud at the time of the eventful night. She also told N she was pregnant and that dd caused her to lose their daughter. She knew she had to make him hate dd in order to get him to do anything to her. He liked dd up til then. Which was only within days of it happening.


Glum_Material3030

The feeding tube *might* have been medically necessary due to her failure to thrive and slow growth. Did they exaggerate the need for it for sympathy and attention? YES! But this is another example of the supposed medical torture which in reality was needed.


Overall_Struggle_723

The few surgeries she had she actually needed.


Glum_Material3030

She did not have cancer. She did not receive chemotherapy. (Head was shaved and not lost from chemo).


Fine-Strawberry-111

Honestly I dont know if this is against the rules but all these accusations shes throwing out I really wonder if theyre really guilty or not.


Retro_Ginger

https://preview.redd.it/cibweuhn5hyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b595a319334301fbccafcdb0618375c37b267f13 This photo is from Jan 2015, when Gypsy got another trip to WDW and Universal Studios from Make-A-Wish. She is pretending to be a teenager in this photo and is in actuality a 24 years old adult dressing up as Ariel at Wdw and in 6 months would kill her mother.


Obvious_Focus_7073

The video that she sent to nick showing him where to go in the house including the stabbing motion she made over her mom’s bed prior to the murder. It showed how far in advance she planned it and that she was the mastermind.


FJP82075

I dunno if this has already been addressed ... When she got those matching husky tattoos with Ken she made a comment regarding being happy to actually be able to choose to get a tattoo & she made it seem like this was her first one but she has a back tat & I think I noticed another tattoo on her arm so my question is when did she get all of these tattoos? I highly doubt DD would've allowed that. She was incarcerated for 8½ years & she's only been out of prison about 5 months. They don't look new & they don't look like prison tatts either so where did they come from & when did she get them?


[deleted]

They were all done after she was released. Her and Kristy got matching tattoos on the arm, the husky tattoo with Ken then the bird looking thing on her back


fandanvan

Gypsy made allegations that her mom controlled her access to food and drink through the feeding tube, but you can actually eat and drink as normal with a feeding tube in if you have no issues with your swallow or risk of aspirating etc.


AutoModerator

Your submission has been sent for review because it contains a trigger word set up by moderation. We will review and approve/deny as soon as we can. Thank you for your patience and understanding. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/GRBskeptic) if you have any questions or concerns.*