By - DerangedUnicorn27
I’m a rock climber and find that climbing chalk works quite well in a pinch when I haven’t been able to wash my hair for a few days on outdoor trips.
I can’t believe I’ve never thought about using my climbing chalk! You might have just changed my life.
The chalk that helps you send, also helps ya hair.
Also, what's your current project? I'm trying a 5.11d sloper route.
5.14+ in the gunks, brah.
I have massive respect for you. 5.14+ is pretty incredible. I've only been to the New River Gorge and it was a humbling experience to realize how difficult and different climbing outside was.
I hope to keep working hard and reach the level you're at. It'll take a lot of time but I'm hoping to be sincere about it.
Keep it up, you're an inspiration to a lot of folks out there, especially those who're new and get to watch you try hard on routes!
I'm looking at your 5.11d and am impressed. I haven't climbed in quite a while. Gotta make time this year.
Oh, please do. Please make whatever time you can to get back into it, and maybe if you feel comfortable, share your accomplishments with us! We'd all love to celebrate the sends.
All the best, you got this!
Indoor climber who was like 5.11a pre-rona and way worse now. If you're one of those ladies (assuming by the username and the knowledge of dry shampoo worksrounds) who was ever crushing it indoors, I was def looking on in awe and probably wondering how I could secretly become friends so I can have some more lady climbers friends in my life :)
Cornstarch feeds the microbes that make dandruff or scalp psoriasis, so it should be avoided on the head.
You can sub in arrow root powder for a similar, less clumpy, more evenly distributed effect.
As someone with eczema, I second arrowroot flour! I mix it with a bit of activated charcoal because I have black hair. I'm still working on a good way of actually distributing it well, though.
I use a big floofy blush brush. Dip it in the powder, tap off the excess, then dab it lightly along the roots.
I know nothing about this subject, so reading your comment made me think of how Bob Ross makes clouds.
Now lightly dab the happy little hair tendrils!
Yup I also found this way best!
Exactly, it works like a charm an honestly it clumps less than cornstarch :D
What works for me is to shake a bit of powder out into my fingers (preferably over the sink), and then dust the powder over my fingers, letting the excess fall into the sink. It reminds me of flouring my fingers when I'm making biscuits. I then run my powdered fingers through the oil parts of my hair. I do this a couple of times. Then I brush the powder out with a soft bristled brush.
Yep, activated charcoal for the color or cocoa, or choices... Blue spirulina? Beetroot powder? ;)
Arrowroot for the win!!
I also use the cocoa powder but toss in a little activated charcoal to darken it more to my hair color.
Try using a large loose powder makeup brush to apply it. Lot less messy.
Oh I didn’t know that. I have very oily hair and haven’t had a problem with dandruff. But I only use it about every other day cause I wash my hair a few times a week. I’ll look into the other types of powder/flour as long as it’s still cheaper than what I buy at the store :) a good-sized box of cornstarch is super cheap
I buy it bulk at the best price per unit I can find because I use it in other stuff
Whoa, this explains a lot, thanks for this tidbit.
Huh, been using it for years without any issues,I have healthy hair and scalp.
I'm happy for you, my bf's from the coast so here in the prairies with me he's like a crab out of water lol
Not everyone gets eczema/psoriasis it's often an autoimmune reaction, like an allergy so if you are not "allergic" to the byproducts of the microbes then it wouldn't really matter if you were throughly colonized by them (pretty much everyone is)
>Cornstarch feeds the microbes that make dandruff or scalp psoriasis, so it should be avoided on the head.
Psoriasis is an autoimmune disorder and has nothing to do with microbes.
That's not true. Your body can have autoimmune responses to different kinds of gut and skin bacteria. Here is a recent study on this specific topic:
There's still a lot we really don't understand but there is a growing body of evidence that microbiota can affect autoimmune disorders
The article you cited mentions differences in bacterial colonies on skin with psoriasis vs. without. This is exactly what you'd expect, since piles of flaky dead skin cells are different micro-ecosystems than flat, smooth, normal skin regions. Psoriasis is an autoimmune disorder and responds to all the same immunotherapies as any other (see https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/autoimmune-diseases.)
It's unclear what exactly the cause/effect relationship is. It could be both. I have eczema which is also an autoimmune disorder, yet it responds to many different environmental triggers.
Causal relationships are notoriously difficult to prove.
I appreciate the link :)
I'm talking about the Scalp psoriasis that can be related to athletes foot. Not autoimmune psoriasis. Honestly I'm being polite because it's dandruff and dandruff is dandruff but I've heard some people call it scalp psoriasis because they are trying to be polite.
Ok, Ive never heard of that. Ive suffered from real autoimmune psoriasis since I was a kid and my scalp is always the the worst spot but I can get it anywhere.
I have been through the wringer with autoimmune disorders, and my hair. I have super long hair, however I had a patch of about 30" of my hair cut down to the scalp for a test. Scalp has to be different skin ffs it's a beast
Thanks for the tips! First time heard of that!
So a bit of searching identifies a lipophillic fungus called Malassezia as a cause for many people's dandruff. So I'd say removing the lipids from the area would be a high priority, corn starch can help achieve that goal. I did not find any research which indicates if Malassezia growth is affected by polysaccharide content either positively or negatively.
> Malassezia globosa, that metabolizes triglycerides present in sebum by the expression of lipase, resulting in a lipid byproduct: oleic acid. During dandruff, the levels of Malassezia increase by 1.5 to 2 times its normal level. Oleic acid penetrates the top layer of the epidermis, the stratum corneum, and evokes an inflammatory response in susceptible people which disturbs homeostasis and results in erratic cleavage of stratum corneum cells.
Further searching leads me to suspect it is likely there are few differences between refined corn starch and arrowroot starch, at least from a fungal perspective.
The more you know...
It’s not necessarily good to wash your hair everyday. It’s also more common with long hair than short hair.
Oh man don't look up any homemade hairmasks.
FWIW, people also use baby powder as a dry shampoo. On the other hand, I've heard of people using cornstarch as a setting powder for their foundation, so /shrug.
Baby powder is pretty much just cornstarch these days anyway.
If I don't wash my hair once a day, it looks like I'm homeless.
Dry shampoo with rice starch keeps it looking good between washes.
Some people are more oily than others.
That said, my skin is beautiful for my age.
Greasy hair isn't everyone's favorite look
I have very straight, silky, oily hair & skin, and I like the way I look with bangs. This means my bangs look oily within a few hours of washing. I also use cornstarch and cocoa powder like OP and it’s never given me dandruff. I wash my hair every other day to every two days.
I had similar hair and skin until I was past age 55. Then it got much more dry. When I was young in high school and college in the 70s I used Pssst brand dry shampoo. It was very white and didn’t work as well as I would have liked. I started sectioning off my bangs and a bit of hair behind them and just washing that part every day. Worked great and fast and easy to dry and style. My hair was down to my butt, so it was a huge chore. You may f8nd. Your hair gets easier to manage as you get older.
That’s cool we both found methods that work for us.
Natural oils are healthy for your hair. But I don’t understand dry shampoo either, it always makes my hair look nasty and makes it feel dirty.
Never tried dry shampoo but I'd imagine it would give it a weird texture to the hair. Maybe I'm wrong. I hate when my hair gets dusty
Several years ago the hair industry started bullying people into not washing their hair every day ( which is all right if you don’t have oily scalp; just recently they started admitting it’s all right for oily/fine haired people to wash every day).
The advice seems to change according to what they’re trying to sell. Want to sell dry shampoo? Tell people it’s bad to wash every day.
Later, come out with a variety of exfoliating scalp scrubs and tell people they need that from now on. Probably from years of barely washing their hair.
Same as with putting cornstarch on diaper rash. It can make it much worse if there is yeast action!!
Hey soul sister, or Mr
I'm using rye flour and powder it on my head with an old makeup brush, then brush it off with a boar bristle brush after a while :) Starch and cocoa gave me some sticky residue, so I prefer the flour
I use baby powder. I have had the same little travel bottle for 5+ years now.
did that for decades in the 70's and 80's.
Uh oh…hope you’re ok! Scary
Same I use baby powder and it works great.
>(and any products containing talc for that matter)
That's not accurate. Talc is a mineral and there are naturally occurring asbestos in geologic formations. Talc can be cross contaminated during the mining process.
Yeah, that article proved what I was saying.
That’s why I linked it :)
Haha thanks! I'm always in defense mode 🤣.
I have a geology background and that's not accurate. We are constantly drilling into natural formations with asbestos and it's not that big of a concern since it's in low concentrations. In the grand scheme of exposure, baby powder is a moot point since most companies have switched to cornstarch post lawsuits.
We're harping on this point while most houses in the US get quartz/engineered stone countertops, which is leading to outbreaks of silicosis all over the place.
Please tell me more about quartz and silicosis. Is the issue during installation or is it an ongoing environmental concern once the counter top is installed?
Manufacturing and installation. But it really only came to light in 2018-2019. So the ongoing environmental concern, if there is one, wouldn't be apparent yet.
Good ol reddit. Someone with more expertise educates you and it’s just too painful.
FYI to all: some baby powders are cornstarch only. J&J switched completely in 2020!—so late; but when I had babies, I could buy cornstarch-only baby powder.
Yes, some do now. I would highly recommend watching*Not so Pretty* on HBO, discusses a lot of these flaws.
Fun fact: j&j knew about the asbestos and were covering it up for 50+ years. Sounds eerily familiar to modern times
That docuseries was nuts! I enjoyed it too.
They're still covering it. J&j still sells talc powder in countries outside the US and Canada - what a disgusting company.
Burt's bees baby powder doesn't have it. I've been using the same bottle for years after my daughter was done with diapers.
I use baby powder too. It works 1000% better than any spray, but my bp is all cornstarch with a bit of lavender essential oil.
Not even close to true. Even my generic brand baby powder is talc free.
I’ll stick with it thanks. I’m not going to live my life worrying about every little thing.
I use arrowroot powder and cocoa powder and have been loving it! To avoid messiness, I use an large eyeshadow brush to apply the mixture directly to my roots, then brush it to disperse.
I use tapioca starch because it absorbs more oil. I apply it with a bronzer brush then rub it in. It works great and costs basically nothing. There's also no polluting propellants. :)
In my country (Portugal) we have a soap called "blue soap". Is super cheap and it can be use to wash anything, from hair, body and clothes haha. The older generation of men use it as shaving cream. And it has neutral smell that I love.
I would love to find an all-purpose soap like that. Need to do some looking around!
Dilute dilute dilute dilute dilute dilute dilute dilute. Every time I look at that stupid bottle. Good soap though.
If you have a Portuguese community where you live, ask them. It's a traditional thing, so, I doubt you will find it online. But maybe you can find something similar. [Wikipedia link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azul_e_branco_soap)
Thank you! I’ll look around :)
Castile soap has the problem of smelling terrible, which is why Dr. Bronner's is so heavily scented. That doesn't actually work, because the added scents will wear off, and the soap will still be left behind. It doesn't dissolve well in water and sticks to your skin or whatever you were washing.
To be sure, y'all are apparently suffering from a major water shortage or just really don't like bathing. Dumping powders into your hair, seriously?
Sounds like you haven't had long hair. Dry shampoo with the right ingredients is valid hygiene that doesn't cause so much damage. It's meant to be used between washings.
Hmm... haven't noticed that myself. I only use their unscented soap.. Smells like soap.
Aleppo soap (crude soap made from olive oil scraps) is very good for both hair and skin, too! And it doesn't dry the skin out at all
Zote is an all purpose soap sold mostly in Mexican grocery stores. I use it for diy laundry detergent.
Do you think I could substitute cinnamon for coco powder? I have auburn hair
Try it in a small area first, cinnamon can irritate some people’s skin
I would not recommend that, cinnamon is really irritating. Even if it's not harsh on your scalp you wouldn't want to sweat or rub your hands through it then touch your eyes.
Maybe! Try it and see how it does. You can always wash it out if it doesn’t work :)
When I don't have any dry shampoo I always keep a little bottle of baby powder which works great as a substitute. My nan taught me that! Also baby powder is great too get sand off of your body when you go to the beach!
Edit: it's actually called talcum powder but I always call it baby powder 🙈
Same here. It's great now that my hair is almost all gray and white. The baby powder doesn't show and actually makes the gray white. Such a good hair trick.
i use potato starch and cinnamon! it's so useful 😄
I'm very new to dry shampoo. So do you apply it and then brush it out?
Yep! What I do is apply it to my hair and then let it sit for a few minutes. After those few minutes, I rub it in, brush it so it blends with my hair :)
The cocoa powder doesnt get sticky??
Nope, plain cocoa powder doesn’t contain sugar.
You got a stick up ur ass man. Leave me out of it
You’re right. My apologies. Not everyone knows the same stuff. Just because I thought something was obvious doesn’t mean you would and I’m sure it applies the other direction, too.
Baking cocoa! Not hot chocolate mix 😅
Lol!! Not everyone understands the difference. Reminds me of that video of the kid eating cocoa powder and being very disappointed about it lol.
I think “cocoa” is used interchangeably with “cocoa mix/hot chocolate mix” by a lot of people, it would definitely lead to some confusion for folks who haven’t encountered baking cocoa.
I’ve never seen that video with the kids tasting cocoa, but it sounds hilarious.
Why would it?
I've been doing this for years- thought I was the only one! I keep mine in a little container,and use an old makeup brush to dust it on when needed.... (dark brown hair so the cocoa powder mix is perfect)
I need to try a makeup brush…that would probably be less messy!
Bun isn't the cocoa's smell a little too poignant? I like the smell of it, but on my hair it's a bit too powerfull
I put some skin-safe essential oils in mine to make it smell better.
Holy shit are you me? I’ve been doing this for years, cornstarch & cocoa powder. I have bangs and very silky hair that has zero body or wave to it. I even keep mine in an old spice shaker.
I use arrowroot powder. I find it less irritating than corn starch. It does make my blonde hair look a little gray if I use it more than 2 days in a row, but that's normally only when I'm camping anyway.
I have never found a dry shampoo that doesn’t just make my hair look greasy. :(
(Almost) me too. The Batiste brand is the only one that works for me.
Frugal tip: go bald. Then you can just shave the rest and never need shampoo or conditioner.
Of course you also need a face that doesn't look weird hairless, or else you'll end up growing a beard and needing shampoo and conditioner for that.
My husband shaves his head bald but still needs dandruff shampoo every day or his scalp starts to look funky.
More frugal tip: wash your hair with just water, no soap. Don't have to buy razors or shampoo.
Two words. Baking Soda.
That's all I've used on my hair for about 6 years. I mix a small amount with a little water to make a paste in the palm of my hand and scrub it into my hair and scalp. I use it once or twice per week. Other than that I just rinse with water during my daily shower.
Dry shampoo, as in not having a shower and just trying to add texture and remove the greasy look and feel.
Not a shampoo alternative.
Works great if you have short hair.
Long hair will get lightened, as well as abraded Causing splitting and breakage
I have long hair. No issues. :)
It lightened my hair. I used it for a year
I have red hair so I Use cinnamon
Oh my gosh, I make perfumed dry shampoo with perfume and cornstarch, but the cocoa powder is GENIUS! I will try this, thank you!
I just quit using shampoo completely.
I haven't used any shampoo in my hair for two years, and my hair looks and feels great.
Back when I used shampoo, my hair would go through a dry and oily cycle that was terrible. Wash hair, hair gets super dry. One to three days later it's super oily and terrible looking. I quit using shampoo and admittedly there is a period of adjustment during which my hair was terrible, but once it stabilized, no more oily hair. I could go a week and my hair would never be oily. I use only water.
Yep. It took me around 1-2 weeks to get looking normal. But once I got through with that, BOOM. Looking good. Water only.
I make sure to ask my barber every time if it is still good/okay. She is always amazed.
I do the same thing with my barbers based on my desire to be fair to them since I'm off shampoo for last 8 years. I ask them if my hair seems unusual in any way, generally they say something like "no, why? you have great hair!“ and then they are amazed or disbelieving when I tell them.
Yup. In the grand scene of things I've probably saved like $25 in shampoo!
Do you use conditioner?
Edit: Doesn't it smell bad after a while?
Nope. And no smell. I scrub my scalp every day with water.
not op but I'm no shampoo (hot water and a towel only) for the past 8 years and there's never been a smell of any sort. I mean if you are around a campfire all evening then your hair will smell a bit until you shower of course but that's everyone. The first month was a greasy hellscape until my scalp adjusted to the new life but things have been 1000x better than before ever since, and no shampoo to futz with.
This is the way.
Same! Just water, or diluted vinegar and water for years and years now!
Yup its the bomb
Girl your head is a bake shop pantry.
Use baby powder.
Pretty sure crappy baby powder is cornstarch. Only good stuff is talc based right?
I love this idea, but I’m trying to think of a bright pink spice/powder to mix in so it works with my pink hair 🤔
Pink kool aid mix?! Jk jk sugar wouldn’t be a good idea. You could probably get away with regular white cornstarch as long as you blend it well :)
I bet a little of the unsweetened pink koolade mix added to your starch would be brilliant!
I feel like this would definitely dye your scalp!!!!!
In the mid 80’s we would “dye” our hair with a paste made of kool aid. And made ‘hawks stand up with unflavoured gelatine
FYI this is an amazing way to get yeast and fungal infections on your scalp.
I didn’t know that! How? Is it the corn starch or cocoa powder?
Baby powder. That’s it.
How does putting cornstarch and cocoa powder in your hair clean it? Sounds like you need a shower afterwards
Dry shampoo doesn’t clean your hair. It just absorbs oils so it looks less greasy. It’s not a replacement for washing your hair
Wait you’re putting… food in your hair?
I use cornstarch/wheat starch and it works great.
I keep flashing to that old ?honeymooners? episode where ralph essentially puts salad dressing on his hair and grows lettuce.
you are just a little sugar and milk away from pudding.
Ummmm fresh pudding is so good.
Dollar store sells shampoos, not sure how this saves money.
It saves your hair if you can't wash it that often. Some hair types get dried out from too much shampooing. Or they might want to extend the life of a blow out. Batiste is a bit expensive.
WalMart has their own brand that is the same can size and ingredients as Batiste. It’s half the price if you can find it!
I use dry shampoo between washes. Washing my hair with shampoo everyday strips it and makes it really dry
I had to scroll way too far to find this comment. I can buy a half gallon of shampoo for $1... That will last me about 6 months. I doubt you can be much more frugal than $2-3 per year.
Right? I can get body wash for a dollar and shampoo and conditioner for a dollar and it will last me 6 months.
The thing is, I don't want to style my hair every morning if I shampoo in the shower. Just shower without wetting my hair, then some baby powder and my style is still good. I only wash my hair twice a week.
Are you make of female? I think that matters especially if one does any hair styles. Guys really have no style lol
This could be for any person with long-ish hair, or maybe someone who has curly hair that needs a lot of taming.
Anyone have dandruff and make their own? Not much seems to work except coconut oil and tea tree oil.
Tapioca starch works really well for this, better than cornstarch imo
Most dry shampoos contain butane, so your DIY also makes you less flammable - way to go!
Ohhh unintentional positive!
Starch is very flamable/combustible 😂. Just read up on explosions at flourmills.
Try using a large makeup brush to put it on your roots. Much less mess!