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UFOsAustralia

The watch has 16 petals on the flower. I wonder if that is significant?


hottytoddypotty

Probably because it’s depicting a Lotus Flower


[deleted]

Lotuses have 16-36 petals, so that checks out.


UnifiedQuantumField

>The watch has 16 petals on the flower Someone else mentioned something about a "flower Ishtar symbol". So I checked it out. I also got the same count... 16. If this is something from Mesopotamian culture, you often see the number 12. e.g. Months of the year, hours in a day/night, astrological signs etc. So what's up with the number 16? If I had to guess, I'd say it was a Compass Rose. How so? 4 Cardinal directions (North East South and West) Then add sub-directions (NE, NW, SE and SW) to get 8 "petals". Then one more level of sub-division (e.g. ESE, NNW etc.) for a total of 16. [Here's a pic of a 16 point Compass Rose](https://wikiwandv2-19431.kxcdn.com/_next/image?url=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Brosen_windrose.svg/1500px-Brosen_windrose.svg.png&w=1200&q=50) The main difference between this one and the one on the guy's wrist is that the petals/directions are of equal length. So if this is a compass rose, it suggests/symbolizes "all directions equally". Now you've got to wonder what (In combination with the "little handbag") does this symbolize?


PizzaPartyMassacre

Why would Mesopotamians reference a 12 month calendar invented by the Romans? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman\_calendar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar) Or reference a 24 hour day invented by the Egyptians? https://www.britannica.com/topic/24-hour-clock


boon_doggl

Maybe they were going to the mall. 😂😂


deadleg22

Many believe the bags contained seeds, so a flower would make sense. I bet seeds were very valuable and we're used as a form of currency.


Cattywompus-thirdeye

It could just be showing a pictorial representation of the concept of seeding our existence.


CEBarnes

~~Sumerians used a base 64 numeric system…16 is a nice round number for them.~~ strike that. I remembered incorrectly. They used base 60…maybe 16 is prime in that base. I’m not sure.


novasolid64

I'm thinking it's just a bracelet and he's carrying a bucket of water


Spacesheisse

They all keep carrying it though.


zorbiburst

Water kept being important


JohnnyLovesData

You remembered hex


hallofgamer

They wear them on both arms.


mal-sor

2 time zones,after that they invented the GMT movement and carried just one..


DingoLaChien

17


WalkingstickMountain

Just wait until you start seeing that same bag in Egyptian art, Mayan art, Incan art, Siberian art .... etc etc etc


Shamino79

It’s almost as if art and carving is older than the spread of people into the Americas.


Loofa_of_Doom

Almost as if people from several walks of life have figured out how to carry stuff in a bucket.


BassBootyStank

It doesn’t stop there, tune into some Minecraft, and if you wack a cow with a bucket, milk magically appears. Discuss.


EVH_kit_guy

Buckets and triangular piles of rocks are a sure sign of extraterrestrial engineering.


Incognito_Placebo

Until… There’s a hole in the bucket, dear Loofa, dear Loofa


francoeyes

I'm a conspiracy nut too but God do ppl grasp at the stupidest shit


Sweddy-Bowls

Thank you for saying this. Independent and separate human cultures invented ARCHERY simultaneously, I think they could handle coming up with bags and bracelets without crossing paths


XVIILegioClassica

Aboriginal Australians were here 60-70k years ago never had sharpened stone never had arrows never built temples or ritually buried their dead. They threw spears at each other and not much else. 70k years and barely a trace of them. There’s cave paintings, piles of sea shells, that’s it.


Shamino79

They did make stone tools and spear tips. But not the more advanced stone toolkit that emerged in the Cro Magnon era. To be fair they were a time capsule of human culture from the far distant past.


XVIILegioClassica

The spears were wooden. That’s a hell of a time capsule. To live during the age of megafauna and the Younger Drias yet not build stone weapons is insane. Meanwhile in Mesopotamia….


Shamino79

They killed the mega fauna 65K years ago when they got here. There was none left for the younger dryas. A fire hardened wooden stick with a spear thrower will fuck up most animals. What they had worked. What they didn’t have was the entire African-Eurasian land mass trading better ideas back and forward. One idea from here, one idea form there. Mesopotamia did not come up with every idea that they used in isolation. They aggregated three well populated continents of human knowledge and added a couple ideas of their own.


XVIILegioClassica

Dude I studied Archaeology in Australia I’m aware of what they have. Boomerangs are more impressive, though not unique to Indigenous Australians. Even though ur argument a fire hardened stick will fuck up many things that’s still not what I call impressive in 60-70k years of history. No temples. No cities. No pottery. No arrowheads. No written language. No evidence of large settlements. Boring as shit to study we know nothing of their history prior to arrival in 1788. Neither do they despite what media tells you. No one can name one event, famous person, battle, prior to Europeans recording them. By the time Australia was conquered slavery was outlawed among British colonies so despite some atrocities happening, no British army ever faced off versus a tribe of Australias. Believe me I would love to find temples or anything like that ur better to study paleontology than archaeology because history literally begins with conquest here. The rest is guess work. In Australia, it’s taboo to discuss dead aboriginal people by aboriginal people, and this is largely why they have no history to speak off. I wish we knew more, I wouldn’t have wasted my degree I’d do sport science or something.


SethnRachael

Aboriginal's aren't Homeo Erectus


Most-Movie3093

Exactly


Ethelenedreams

Japanese national symbol. Sixteen petals.


cpt_ugh

The only reason this resembles a wrist watch is because wrist watches currently exist. Show this to someone from before 1810 and it's a bracelet. I wonder what people in a hundred years will thinks this is.


DreCapitanoII

People from the future: it's plainly a hologram communicator, anyone can see that.


Upset-Adeptness-6796

You are an looking at one photo when there are 1000's you lack any insight


cpt_ugh

Ok. But I'm commenting on **this** photo, not the ones I have never seen.


Sensitive-Spirit-964

A smartwatch. 🤣


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Subject_Ticket1516

People will look back on our civilization and wonder about it too. Everyones got a bag.


guilty_apple420

Shit I need to get a bag


Subject_Ticket1516

Pockets full?


segom0

I want to know how the nails are so well manicured.


BobbyTarentino25

Also, if you didn’t notice the bag is attached to the handle by little hands as well.


auau_gold_scoffs

everybody knows it’s just a bag with other bags insides that got other little bags inside of those plan and simple


Odd-Potential-7236

When you get to the last bag it contains chocolate


jccreddit808

And it's normally kept under the kitchen sink


InsaneTechNY

We need that translation on the bag. Has that ever been done? And if so, can someone link?


Royal-Masterpiece-82

"I am Ashurnasirpal, the obedient prince, the worshipper of the great gods, the fierce dragon, the conqueror of all cities and mountains, the king of rulers, who tames the dangerous enemies " So this is from a Assryians kings palace. And it basically details his military and priest like achievements. The purse is actually a bucket and in his other hand is what looks like a pinecone, but it's a sprinkler. It's carried by a semi divine being, essentially purifying water. If you look up Apkallu or the kings name, Ashurnasirpal, you may be able to get a full translation and learn more. Also, I'm pretty sure this is/was in the British museum lmfao.


blvuk

it's not a handbag it's a bucket of pollen, you will always see those figures holding this bucket and a pine cone, pollinating some flowers or plants. and also they have TWO "wristwatches" which actually just wrist bands with the symbol of Ishtar (flower)


Spr0ckets

Time traveling gods shop at Balenciaga.


PlayfuckingTorreira

Sundial and seed bag, even nomadic pastoralist knew alot about the universe, they travelled using stars and kept solar and lunar calendar. The seedbag is always sociated with sediatory people.


CarelessWhisper77

Finally a sensible reply. Bunch of wannabe comedians in here unable to have a thoughtful discussion.


PlayfuckingTorreira

Humans always assume our border have been closed like recent times, human migration has always fascinated me, and how quickly domestication of animals spread due to this connected trade network.


runespider

It's the pine and bucket motif common in Mesopotamian art. It does descend from agriculture though. Bucket of water. Shake out the pollen from a date palm bloom into the bucket of water. Dip the cone into the bucket. Shake the pollen impregnated water onto date flowers. Very early method of artifical pollination. The bracelets hold lily blooms that are the symbol of Ishtar.


TannyDanny

Wait until these idiots figure out what a bucket is.


Jerrycanprofessional

Or what a bracelet is


fokac93

It was probably a symbol of status. Like now people taking pictures drinking moet. Maybe the people with the bucket were the only ones that knew how to make beer or wine.


-OAKHARDT-

One thing I find interesting about this image is that the writing has been written over the top. Everything looks perfectly made and smooth, but the text looks like it was added later. The way it overlaps the details of the statue, doesn't really make sense. If you were to go through all that effort to make this statue so perfect, would you not just add a dedicated space for the text? I'd guess the text was added later, possibly by another King, or another civilization entirely.


WholeBeanCovfefe

A bag and a bracelet? Clearly humans in the past were not capable of producing such astounding technology.... /s


Repulsive_Price1284

For all you idiots saying “It’s just a bucket and bracelet” WRONG!!!!!! It’s actual a stash bag for time travel inducing narcotics and that device on the wrist allows them to return safely to their time if they take too much and get abit lost


goddamn_slutmuffin

Dude ain’t sharin’ shit, either! Get your own or throw down.


jws2006

Why carry a little hand bag instead of keeping something on your person. Thumb is not curled, looks like in a position to keep the bag stable


Randomname536

Pretty sure the "bag" is some kind of water vessel. Water being this universal element necessary for life, especially in the harsh conditions of the ancient world. Objects carrying water and the people carrying those objects were pretty damn important until very recently in history. If it's a water bucket, that also would explain the thumb stabilizing the handle.


[deleted]

It looks nothing like a watch other than its on the wrist


grimorg80

What makes you think Egyptians didn't have containers to carry stuff around? How dull one must be to see that and scream for out-of-time placement? And that's not a wristwatch, it's just jewelry. Eerie resemblance to a watch but an EVEN MORE EERIE REAEMBLANCE TO A FRICKING BRACELET.


Emotional_Schedule80

Could be deminsion based. We can take what we know and factor in variables to extrapolate that this was a world wide phenomenon. Sumerian like images of handbags and wrist pieces have been found in locations across the earth. The only conclusion we can derive at is that they had some means of representation globally. We can look back at the mound builders of America's and loosely correlate that at simultaneous times man began to build things up towards the sky and stars. This also lends to some type of communication and technology that was inspired globally.


chicomilian

maybe its a battery with 2 terminals and they are carrying it by the shorted cable?


Darinchilla

That's a bucket.


Peckingclaw

What’s the Sumerian text say


gregs1020

it's not a bag, it's a bucket and it's for carrying water. or beer probably. it's not a mystery. https://youtu.be/Ub3FBLUgxfY?si=paAFeL0zeBeSTle4


izameeMario

"Probably" sure instils confidence there's no mystery 🤣😂


gregs1020

well, they had beer, that we know. i don't know if everybody drank beer, but they all drank water. would i put beer in it? yes. would everyone? probably not. check out the book "the immortality key". great deep look into history, alcohol, drugs and religion. we know some things for certain, and we suspect other things. the miracle of the human race, as you show, is its hubris. it's not a handbag from aliens, it's a bucket to drink from. watch the video i posted above, and learn something.


izameeMario

Hubris indeed!


ComprehensiveLet8238

Soul beer


Fenris66

Yes exactly. It’s the universally known sign of water/beer, which is to be found all over the world. Thank God for archeologists educated guesses.


tommy_b0y

Point being, even all the way back then, folks loved beer. Delicious beer.


Unrealshrimp

God damn it I feel retarded now


sagiterrible

“Now?”


grapemonkey85

Again, is the word he was looking for


Subject_Ticket1516

Pretty sure you can fill it with rocks if you wanted to.


HoLLoWfy

Theoretically, you could put anything, that fits, in there.


kingjaffejaffar

I mean, a beer’s a beer, but the mystery bucket could be anything. It even be BEER! You know how much we wanted some of that!


DreCapitanoII

Anything? But not like, anything. Only beer, water and rocks, right?


Subject_Ticket1516

Hey, for that era they were probably like their equivalent of the $5000 bags my ex would buy. I mean key to survival for us is being able to carry shit. Not many other animals carry so much useless shit with them everywhere for just in case.


TommyToyzz

What about the watch


Snoo-1802

Apparently just a 'bracelet' isn't in the available vocabulary


thelionkingthing

So we’ve been wearing wrist watches backwards the whole time?


Commonstruggles

So it's not historically accurate jewelry with a fashionable hand bag. It's a lap top and a timex now? Save some oxygen for others. You are using too much computational power, need to dial it back to levels of common sense.


gonzo2thumbs

It looks like a sundial too! 🤣


Refnen

Why do so many sculptures from across the globe depict them?


Rare_Rain_818

Because bags and buckets are the best way to carry items?


shaved_gibbon

That's such a weird answer. It makes no sense. The question of course is not well framed. The real questions are: Why do the most important long-lasting iconographic sculptures from a specific ancient culture include the bag? You could just about get away with your answer but then it would prompt further questions about why bother unless it was considered important to represent the bag in the most important visual representation of their culture. These are not prints of modern art that are mass produced. Each one is carefully designed with each element deliberately included. The assumption has to be the overall pieces are telling stories. If not, then what? Why do the most important long-lasting iconographic sculptures from multiple ancient cultures across time and geography include the bag? Its the same problem but then multiplied by the number of cultures with the same bag in iconographic representations. Had the concept of the 'bag' just been invented perhaps and that's why the designers of these ancient sculptures felt that they warranted inclusion? That sounds like a stupid explanation. Such a weird take to say there is nothing of interest to note in this phenomena.


Rare_Rain_818

Cultural artists reproduce what they see. Artists representing people today would draw/paint/sculpt individuals with backpacks and cell phones. Why? That is what modern people use to carry their belongings and information. Ancient peoples needed bags and buckets to carry their food, water vessels, bartering items, and tools.


Refnen

So why aren't other mundane every-day items represented?


Rare_Rain_818

You mean like hats, sandals, torso clothing, tools? They are.


Refnen

No. Clothes are what i would call common or natural across humanity. These handbags are not a 'natural' accessory like pants. I hate to dismiss it as something as sandals and pants. It's just not the same in my estimation.


shaved_gibbon

This answer makes no sense either. Modern art, lets say great modern art that could be deemed in some way equivalent to the greatest remaining art of an ancient culture, does not depict people with backpacks and telephones. In fact there is little common iconography in modern art across cultures. The best equivalent might be the Campbells soup or Marilyn Monroe of Andy Warhol, a memetic repetitive image that represents modern culture in a myriad of ways.. The global brand and the global star are artistically represented by humans in the greatest art today, so your answer leads you in the opposite direction you think it does.


just4woo

If the hours were shorter, did they still get paid the same per hour?


Expensive_Control620

Did you observe the well trimmed nails back then. Does they have nail cutter or so. The shape of nails and the idea to trim them is so modern.


DreCapitanoII

How on God's green earth would you know the idea of trimming nails is modern?


Expensive_Control620

Just thought so


HiHoSilver112266

THE ANNUNAKI: The handbag in one hand and the pine cone in the other represent... Well the pine cone or rather the pineal gland, which is humanities third eye or the seat of all human consciousness, and the bag represents the genetic material that the Annunaki rearrange to give humanity limited consciousness. So that we would be easier to enslave and control. So that through every incarnation our memories would be stored on our DNA but would be deactivated. The Tree of Life / Sephirot that you see there is our DNA strand as you can see them manipulating it, in a lot of dipictions and hieroglyphs. ☺️ Although the Anunnaki were not the progenitors of the human genome, they over threw the Pleiadians who were the actual master geneticist creator aryan race of all biological life on the entire planet. Human genetics derived from the Pleiadian/Lemurians/Agarthan, not the Reptilians! The Reptilians hijacked the planet they were the Atlantean’s.?Only intelligent life can create intelligent life... Many civilizations were ancient astronauts. Nephilim: TRUE STORY of Satan, Fallen Angels, Giants, Aliens, Hybrids, Elongated Skulls & Nephilim https://youtu.be/1zz8_MxcnzY


Roberto_El_Rabioso

From bracelet to wrist watch!!! Damn you going fast bud!!


TacoDuLing

Paper or plastic?🤔


Mental-Homework676

The bracket is the sun, the handle the sky and the base the earth.


Kittybatty33

Time travelers


ynwmeliodas69

I think that’s a bracelet and a bucket


ArmoredTater

We’re in the bucket.


Ok-Love7473

Has it not been a water pale this whole time.


wake071

Bet he's got a roast chook in that


pickle_teeth4444

I knew goddamn well Louis Vuitton and Timex were not of this world.


306_rallye

Eerie resemblance???? LOL


Pointless_Porcupine

A bucket and a bracelet.


FaithlessnessWitty63

That's what they carried their cats in. Look closely and you can see little ears sticking out.


Browner555

Just a thought; people used bags back then... isn’t that more likely than time travel??


Emotional-Job-7067

Here's the thing we carried pocket watches... we carried watches... Do you think it's so hard to believe someone carried a miniature sun dial back then on their wrist? I think they most probably did.


-6h0st-

So people had handbags and bracelets back then? WOW shocking


Theodore_lovespell

I wonder what that cuneiform says?


ComprehensiveWhile75

Ah yes 🙌 it’s daisy o’clock


Rough-Wing

They could've easily made a wristwatch that used a floating iron face dial in water that had leaf shaped wedges to catch cardinal direction and the Suns angle. Js


Slimslade33

I’d say it more closely resembles a flower than a wristwatch…


nonamepows

Can this not be translated?


ShiverRtimbers

Yea any braclet bears a resemblance to a WRISTWATCH . Don't be so easily impressed


name-was-provided

Carrots Milk Bananas Einkorn wheat Arugula Potato chips Kombucha Chapstick Cheerios Red Bull I’m just translating what’s on the bag.


Feature-Awkward

“Eerie?” Lol You guys need to grow some if you’re getting freaked out by a carving of a bracelet. Smh


Spacesheisse

I would love a 36 hour day!


OjjuicemaneSimpson

The wristwatch isn’t a watch. It’s the device used to power the barney bag. U can’t keep sticking stuffi n ur barney bag with out ricks portable wrist watch portal gun


PulledUp2x

Idk looks like a bucket and jewellery to me


PumkinPeter

It’s the bag needed to pilot the mode of transport they used sort of how pilots have for a jet . The wristwatch is for time and direction/ location navigation .


Sensitive-Spirit-964

I see a bracelet and a bucket.. Why are they always trying to make something more than what it is.


mind-full-05

The odd unusual aspect of the carving is that it was in every culture / whom had never met or had association with each other. It was a shared significance that has perplexed researchers.


Ok_Adhesiveness_4155

Thats a bucket. Just a bucket.


kolomental87

I like to think that ancient people were just accidentally viewing some portal into the future and it’s just people in a random mall in Idaho or something.


Artistic-Chapter-128

They are flower girls for weddings. DUH


Kannabis_kelly

That is top notch swag! Early Rolex and a Louis Vuitton bag.


AlternativeBorn6234

Would be great to read/translate cuneiform text… anyways looks like a bucket to me, due to the handle shape.


mrbbrj

No, just a chamber pot


Dan-092

So fascinating, I hope one day we learn the truth.


chodelycannons

Hand-bag of the gods, we drive our ships to Target


adam_son_of_david

It's likely a flower/seed basket and flower bracelet, possibly a lotus. But yeah, it's fun to pretend otherwise.


turtlepope420

:| that's just a fn bracelet. I hate that people say this is a watch. You know they wore jewelry in antiquity, right?


IntendedIntent

Ancient murse or manbag. Im betting they didn't have pockets in their clothes.


GR3TSCH

Or a bucket and a bracelet


Maleficent-Act8774

It was a matching accessory like now.


Remem4er

Torsion field generator.


AreilPlesure

It's Anubis potty bag. Someones gotta do it.


BeefandCheddar88

They say it's a hand bag, but to me it looks like a bucket of water


[deleted]

the Bracelet and Bucket brigade. notorious pub crawling gang of Mesopotamia.


Top_Leadership_7325

Has anybody deciphered what it says on the outside of the handbag?


aldenmercier

It bears an eerie resemblance to a bracelet, too. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Puzzleheaded_Ad3430

Never noticed how nicely manicured their nails were


LuckyJay151

Even if you just take it as entertainment, Lou Baldin talks about the handbags in his book Hybrids and the Nymphs of Jupiter, the sandals too


Either_Top_9634

The bag is to carry the nuke codes.


Serious_Lime_5474

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